Star Wars: The Changes - Part Two
It's now time for Chris Gould's second trip into a galaxy far, far away with this examination of the changes to Star War...
In the first of my three-part examination of the changes to the Star Wars trilogy I looked at the differences between the various releases of A New Hope. Now the time has come to turn my attention to my favourite instalment of the trilogy, The Empire Strikes Back. This instalment of the saga suffers from relatively few changes when compared to the first film in the series and many believe that of the three films Empire is the least ‘tainted’. As before we’ll examine alterations to existing scenes, followed by scenes not included in the theatrical release. There will then be a section devoted to audio differences. The Blu-ray has also brought with it a couple of minor alterations. So, without further ado, let’s take a look at what has changed.


Here we see the original 20th Century Fox logo, as it appeared at the beginning of The Empire Strikes Back way back in 1980.

For the 1997 Special Edition release of the film onwards, the new shiny new Fox logo is present ahead of the film.

Here is the old Lucasfilm logo, as it was back in the 1980s. Not particularly exciting, but it gets the job done with the minimum of fuss.

Here’s the Lucasfilm logo as it appears in the Special Edition. The logo now fades up and sparkles, before changing colour. Wow!

Here is the opening to one of the most famous title sequences of all time, just as it was back in the early 1980s.

Not a lot has changed for the Special Edition release onwards, although the blue is now a bit lighter than before. Colour me unconcerned.

While investigating a meteor impact site, Luke Skywalker is attacked by a fearsome wampa ice creature. After killing Luke’s tauntaun the wampa drags the young Jedi-in-training back to its lair, there to be stored until the creature is ready to feast. In this original footage the creature is mostly implied, relying on shadows and brief glimpses to build tension.

For the Special Edition release of the film the wampa was given a complete makeover. New shots of the creature feeding on the remains of a tauntaun have been inserted and we now get to see the creature in a lot more detail. These shots are interspersed with Luke trying to escape by using the Force to summon his lightsaber.

For the 2004 DVD release nothing has been added over and above the changes made for the Special Edition. There are many who prefer the original incarnation of the wampa, citing the ‘less is more’ rule as the basis for their preference. However, I’m actually going to stick my neck out and say that I don’t particularly mind the change.

The Blu-ray release is identical to the 2004 release. You'll get tired of reading this before long.
Speaking of our old friend the wampa, for a brief moment during the initial attack on Luke and his tauntaun you can see the puppeteer's arm, as per the shot below. You might also notice the black mark at the bottom left edge of the frame.

This little error remained in the film for over thirty years until the Blu-ray release took the opportunity to patch it up with some digital fur. The damage to the edge of the frame remains though.


Here we see the Emperor communicating with Darth Vader via hologram. As you can see the Emperor's appearance is radically different than in Return of the Jedi.

The Special Edition Emperor looks identical to the original release of the film, albeit with some minor differences in contrast. He still looks nothing like his Return of the Jedi counterpart, which is because the Emperor is played by a woman! In order to give the Emperor a more unsettling appearance, chimpanzee eyes were superimposed over the actress' eyes. This Emperor was voiced by Clive Revell.

Here we have the Emperor 2004 style. For the DVD release Lucas has replaced the chimp-lady with new footage of actor Ian McDiarmid, who portrays the Emperor in Return of the Jedi, The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Aside from the cosmetic changes some of the dialogue has been altered during this scene (this can be heard in the ‘Audio Changes’ section below). It took a while to get used to the change and while it’s not perfect it does at least lend some much-needed continuity to the portrayal of the Emperor.

No change for the Blu-ray.

Here we see Boba Fett’s Slave I giving chase to the Millennium Falcon as it heads for Bespin. The ships are pretty hard to make out, but you can just see the glow of their engines against the blackness of space.

The Special Edition added another shot to the pursuit, in which the angle is reversed and both the Falcon and Slave I fly past the camera.

The 2004 release keeps this extended flyby without adding anything in the way of new footage, although Slave I's engine noise has been altered to sound more like it does in the prequels. The restoration also makes the star-field easier to see. This alteration doesn’t detract from the scene so it gets the thumbs up from me.

Again, the Blu-ray is the same.

Here we see the original approach to Cloud City as the Millennium Falcon, flanked by a pair of cloud cars, makes its way towards the floating metropolis.

The Special Edition adds all-new CGI footage that shows a lot more of the city as the Falcon twists through towering structures on its way to landing platform 327.

The DVD release is identical to the Special Edition, as you can see from the screenshot. The computer effects work in these new sequences blends very well with the model work, creating an almost seamless transition between the old and the new.

Yet more Blu-ray similarities.

Here’s a shot of Cloud City as seen from a distance. The city itself is a matte painting, while the cloud car is a moving element that has been composited into the scene. The image is quite muddied, especially when compared to the shots of the city in the scenes immediately following.

The Special Edition removes the cloud car but introduces a Tibanna gas refinery into the shot. Unfortunately the strange pink tint remains, making the scene look very odd when compared to the following scenes in which the sky is a pure blue.

The DVD release keeps the Tibanna refinery but thankfully it ditches the pink tint. I’m sure you’ll agree that this is by far the cleanest and sharpest looking of the three shots. The scene is now far more in -eeping with the following close-up shots of the city.

The shot is identical for the Blu-ray release.

Here is an exterior shot of Cloud City as it appeared in the original release of the film. You may notice Princess Leia walking around inside of the apartment to the right and a cloud car taking off to the left of the frame.

The Special Edition version redesigns the building and offers a clearer view of Leia, along with adding a second cloud car to the scene.

The 2004 release keeps the Special Edition footage and benefits from the added clarity afforded by the restoration work.

The Blu-ray release goes one further by introducing more natural reflections on the window for added realism.

Here we see Chewbacca searching for C-3PO in the bowels of Cloud City in this shot from the 1980 version of the film.

Not a lot has changed for the 1997 Special Edition release of the feature.

Again, not much change in 2004 beyond the improvement in picture quality.

However, the Blu-ray release radically alters the look of the scene with new colour timing and digitally added sparks, lending it a much warmer appearance.

Here we see Lando Calrissian escorting his ‘guests’ through the interior of Cloud City. Notice the lack of windows, which denies us an exterior view of the city.

All of this changed with the Special Edition, with the introduction of windows affording a view of the skyscrapers, landing platforms and other structures that comprise the city. This opens the city up a great deal, making it more believable as a floating habitat.

The 2004 DVD release keeps everything that the Special Edition introduced, but as ever it benefits from the added clarity afforded by the restoration work. Having said that, the DVD release's boosted contrast does obscure some exterior detail that was previously visible in the SE.

Still the same on Blu-ray, contrast boosting and all.

Here’s another shot of the new windows added to the city. In the distance you can just make out Boba Fett’s Slave I sitting on a landing platform as he prepares to depart for Tatooine with the carbonite-encased Han Solo.

Here's another example of Lucasfilm's inconsistency when it comes to the Special Edition additions. Remember those lovely big windows with the view of the buildings? Well they're gone in the reverse angle shot. Continuity? What's that? Why this wasn't fixed for the Blu-ray release is beyond me...

Here we see Han Solo immediately before he’s encased in carbonite. Notice how the shoulders of his shirt appear much darker than the surrounding material? This led many people to think that it was a continuity mistake and that Han was actually wearing a sleeveless jacket in this scene.

Here we see the same scene from the Special Edition release. Once again, it looks like Han could indeed be wearing a jacket - except he’s not. If you’ve watched the show When Star Wars Ruled the World you might have seen a behind the scenes clip that shows this very moment being filmed. Han is clearly wearing a white shirt and it is not until he steps up to his marker that the lighting casts a strange shadow, giving the appearance of a sleeveless jacket.

Obviously Lucas decided to finally put this little argument to rest with the 2004 DVD release, as he had his team of effects wizards digitally alter Han’s shirt to remove all doubt. The lightsabers are all over the place, but at least Han doesn’t look like he’s wearing a short-sleeved jacket anymore!

No shadow on the Blu-ray.

If you read my previous article you will probably remember that the lightsabers weren’t as consistent as they could have been through the years. In this shot from the original release we can see Darth Vader’s lightsaber as it is meant to appear, although it's still not as red as it is in other shots (or as red as other Sith sabers).

The Special Edition shot looks a little washed out when compared to the original release, but the red corona of the blade is still clearly visible around the brilliant white core.

Oh dear, what happened? Here we see another of the inconsistent lightsabers found throughout all three films. The restoration work has resulted in an ‘averaging out’ of the scene’s contrast and brightness, which means the loss of the brilliance of the saber’s core. It’s pink-saber Vader!

As you can see Lucasfilm hasn't fixed this error for the Blu-ray release.

Here we have a close-up from the next scene. Notice how the blade still has a red-ish ‘edge’ to it, even though the core is very white?

Things remain largely the same with the Special Edition, although there’s slightly less red apparent than in the original release.

In 2004 Vader’s saber is still pink. This actually occurs numerous times throughout the film, to both Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker’s lightsabers. However, the effect is more noticeable on the red blade of Vader’s saber than the blue of Luke’s. Thankfully the blades are fine for most of this climactic dual and the shots in which they appear to be incorrectly coloured are infrequent. There is also a very brief moment on Dagobah where the sabers look off, but it is almost too fleeting to mention.

Another saber colouring error that's gone unfixed. Actually, unlike the other films in the original trilogy none of the saber errors have been touched in The Empire Strikes Back. Still, at least they added CGI sparks to the scene with Chewie eh?

Here we see Lando Calrissian warning the inhabitants of Cloud City to flee before the arrival of more Imperial troops. While this scene worked well as it was, it didn’t lend a particularly impressive sense of scale to the proceedings.

The Special Edition introduced a few new shots to this scene, such as people taking time out from their everyday activities to listen to the message. This shot also gives us another nice look at the exterior of the city.

Things remain the same for the DVD release, with the obvious benefits of the restoration. Other additions include a wide shot of Cloud City's colossal plaza, with many of Cloud City’s inhabitants pausing to listen to Lando.

Again the Blu-ray is identical.

In the original release, after having failed to lure Luke to the dark side of the Force, Darth Vader demands that his troops bring his shuttle so that he may return to the Executor

The Special Edition adds a new scene in which Vader and his troops stride out onto the landing platform to board the shuttle. This extended scene doesn’t really detract from the pacing of the film, and I have nothing against the change (a controversial stance among many Star Wars fans).

Things remain the same for the DVD release. It’s worth noting that the dialogue immediately preceding this new scene has been altered and you can listen to the new lines in the ‘Audio Changes’ section below.

The latest in a long line of identical Blu-ray shots.

In the original release of the film there was an inexplicable ‘white glare’ when Lando opened the top hatch to retrieve Luke from the belly of Cloud City. This created a continuity error, as in the scene immediately following this we see an exterior shot of the Falcon and another hatch opening before Lando appears.

The Special Edition fixed this mistake by adding a digital hatch to the scene. This is one of the small changes that often goes unnoticed, but I for one am glad they did it.

Things are very much the same for the DVD release, although the overall level of detail and clarity of the image is greatly improved (along with the purity of the colours).

You guessed it, the shot is the same on Blu-ray.

Here we see two Imperial officers standing on the bridge of the Executor delivering a report to Darth Vader.

The scene from the Special Edition is much the same, but the observant among you might have noticed that the insignias in their uniforms are on a different side to the rest of the film!

Thanks to the wonders of modern technology, Lucas had his guys digitally reposition the incorrectly placed insignias, much to the delight of anally retentive people everywhere!

Few, this is the last time I have to write the words 'identical' and 'Blu-ray' together.

In the original release of the film we never see Darth Vader return to his Star Destroyer after summoning his shuttle. This was fixed for the Special Edition and subsequent DVD release of the film. Here we see the shuttle departing Bespin.

Immediately following the departure from Bespin is a scene portraying the shuttle en route to the Imperial flagship, Executor. I’m particularly fond of this addition, because it showcases the massive scale of the command ship (although it could be argued that it’s a little redundant).

Here we see Darth Vader’s shuttle landing in one of the flagship’s hanger bays. Or do we? Those of you with keen senses may have noticed that this hanger looks very similar to the one from the Death Star in Return of the Jedi, and you’d be right. This scene is actually an outtake from the third instalment of the trilogy! It's also the topic of many a debate among fans as the insertion of this scene truncates a classic piece of music from John William's amazing score.

Here we see Darth Vader disembarking from his shuttle, where he is greeted by a group of Imperial officers. But wait, who’s that? Why it’s Moff Jejerrod, commander of the second Death Star. But isn’t Admiral Piett in command of the Executor? Oh wait, it’s another outtake from Return of the Jedi! If you look closely you can actually see the Moff mouth his dialogue from the sequel!

After he is attacked by the wampa Luke is treated in the Rebel medical bay by the droid 2-1B. Immediately afterwards, R2-D2 and C-3PO enter the room and express their relief at their master’s wellbeing. In the original release Luke is less than gracious in his acceptance of this sentiment, as evidenced by this clip. Later releases of the film added a line of dialogue that acknowledges the droids, as you can hear by clicking this link.

When flying into battle against the Imperial walkers Luke can be heard giving commands to his wingmen. However, in one particular scene, Luke’s mouth can be seen moving but no words are heard! Click here for the original version of the scene in question. For the Special Edition onwards the line of dialogue has been restored to the film, as evidenced by this audio clip.

After escaping the pursuing TIE fighters, Han Solo attempts to find a safe haven among the asteroid field. As usual C-3PO is less than optimistic about their chances, as you can hear by clicking this link. Later versions of the scene added another line of dialogue to the scene, which paints 3PO as an even bigger worrier. Click here for the new dialogue.

At one point during the film the Emperor contacts Darth Vader aboard his flagship, the Executor. This exchange acknowledges that both the Emperor and Vader know they are searching for Luke Skywalker. Click here for the original version of this scene. For the 2004 DVD release, actor Ian McDiarmid reprised the role he played in the other films and re-recorded all of the Emperor’s dialogue. What is more, certain lines were altered to make it appear as though Vader was keeping something from the Emperor. You can listen to the new dialogue in its entirety by clicking here.

Now we come to one of the audio changes that really annoys the fan-boys. The voice of Boba Fett, which was originally supplied by Jason Wingreen, has been re-recorded by Temuera Morrison (who plays Jango Fett in Attack of the Clones). You can hear the original dialogue by clicking here. The updated dialogue featuring Morrison can be heard by clinking here. Personally I’m undecided on this change, mostly because the quality of Morrison’s delivery is inferior to Wingreen’s.

Many different mixes have been used over the years, some featuring adlibbed dialogue. One such instance led to one of my favourite lines from the trilogy, just after the swamp creature spits out R2-D2. Click here for the old line. For the Special Edition onwards, a different take of this scene was used. This take featured actor Mark Hamill reading the dialogue as it was on the page. It makes sense in the context of the scene, but it’s not as funny as his adlib. Click here for the new dialogue.

Now we have more of Boba Fett’s altered dialogue as the bounty hunter informs Darth Vader of his need to keep Han Solo alive. You can click on this link for the old dialogue or this link for Morrison’s new reading.

Yet another of Boba’s altered lines can be heard during the scene in which Han Solo is frozen in carbonite. Simply click here for the old dialogue and here for the new rendition. Morrison’s dub has to rank as the worst delivery of a line in the whole of the film and the original dialogue sounds so much better.

Boba Fett’s final piece of altered dialogue can be heard as he oversees the loading of Han Solo’s frozen body into Slave I. You can compare the two versions by clicking here for the original line and here for the altered one.

In the original release of the movie, when Luke threw himself to his apparent doom after his duel with Darth Vader, he did so with silent dignity. You can listen to this clip by clicking here. For the Special Edition release of the film a scream was added as Luke fell. You can hear the new sound effect by clicking here. Many believe this scream to be the same one used for the Emperor’s death in Return of the Jedi. Whether that’s true or not, I’m of the opinion that it sounds terrible. Thankfully the scream was removed for the 2004 DVD release.

After his duel with Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader commanded his underlings to bring his shuttle. People lament the loss of this scene, but I never really liked the quality of the dialogue or the score. You can hear the original dialogue by clicking Click here. For the Special Edition onward, the dialogue has changed considerably to accommodate new footage. You can hear the new dialogue by clicking here. In a move sure to annoy the purists I think this sounds much better than the old line, and contrary to popular belief it is James Earl Jones providing the voice of Darth Vader.
Well there you have it. As with A New Hope before it, The Empire Strikes Back has undergone some serious changes over the years. However, unlike A New Hope the changes made to Empire are more subtle, with fewer CGI scenes shoehorned into the film. The audio substitutions a more numerous than the previous film, but on the whole they work in the context of the story. I’m in agreement with those who believe that Empire stands as the film least corrupted by the various ‘enhancements’ and substitutions, primarily because there have been very few new scenes inserted over the years (such as scenes featuring CGI creatures like Jabba the Hutt). Of course it helps that Empire was easily the best of the three films to begin with. As with my first comparison I doubt this one will ever be truly finished. I will be updating as and when I discover new alterations or additions, or when I receive suitable recommendations from you, the readers. I hope you’ve enjoyed this look at the film, and don’t forget to keep your eyes peeled for the Return of the Jedi comparison in the near future.
You can read the first, third and fourth instalments of the guide by clicking here, here and here.
My thanks go to Russ Dawson for his invaluable help in sourcing some of the material for this comparison.
Editorial by Chris Gould

Alterations to Existing Scenes
The Fox Logo

Here we see the original 20th Century Fox logo, as it appeared at the beginning of The Empire Strikes Back way back in 1980.

For the 1997 Special Edition release of the film onwards, the new shiny new Fox logo is present ahead of the film.
The Lucasfilm Logo

Here is the old Lucasfilm logo, as it was back in the 1980s. Not particularly exciting, but it gets the job done with the minimum of fuss.

Here’s the Lucasfilm logo as it appears in the Special Edition. The logo now fades up and sparkles, before changing colour. Wow!
Along Time Ago...

Here is the opening to one of the most famous title sequences of all time, just as it was back in the early 1980s.

Not a lot has changed for the Special Edition release onwards, although the blue is now a bit lighter than before. Colour me unconcerned.
The Wampa

While investigating a meteor impact site, Luke Skywalker is attacked by a fearsome wampa ice creature. After killing Luke’s tauntaun the wampa drags the young Jedi-in-training back to its lair, there to be stored until the creature is ready to feast. In this original footage the creature is mostly implied, relying on shadows and brief glimpses to build tension.

For the Special Edition release of the film the wampa was given a complete makeover. New shots of the creature feeding on the remains of a tauntaun have been inserted and we now get to see the creature in a lot more detail. These shots are interspersed with Luke trying to escape by using the Force to summon his lightsaber.

For the 2004 DVD release nothing has been added over and above the changes made for the Special Edition. There are many who prefer the original incarnation of the wampa, citing the ‘less is more’ rule as the basis for their preference. However, I’m actually going to stick my neck out and say that I don’t particularly mind the change.

The Blu-ray release is identical to the 2004 release. You'll get tired of reading this before long.
Speaking of our old friend the wampa, for a brief moment during the initial attack on Luke and his tauntaun you can see the puppeteer's arm, as per the shot below. You might also notice the black mark at the bottom left edge of the frame.

This little error remained in the film for over thirty years until the Blu-ray release took the opportunity to patch it up with some digital fur. The damage to the edge of the frame remains though.

The Emperor

Here we see the Emperor communicating with Darth Vader via hologram. As you can see the Emperor's appearance is radically different than in Return of the Jedi.

The Special Edition Emperor looks identical to the original release of the film, albeit with some minor differences in contrast. He still looks nothing like his Return of the Jedi counterpart, which is because the Emperor is played by a woman! In order to give the Emperor a more unsettling appearance, chimpanzee eyes were superimposed over the actress' eyes. This Emperor was voiced by Clive Revell.

Here we have the Emperor 2004 style. For the DVD release Lucas has replaced the chimp-lady with new footage of actor Ian McDiarmid, who portrays the Emperor in Return of the Jedi, The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Aside from the cosmetic changes some of the dialogue has been altered during this scene (this can be heard in the ‘Audio Changes’ section below). It took a while to get used to the change and while it’s not perfect it does at least lend some much-needed continuity to the portrayal of the Emperor.

No change for the Blu-ray.
Boba Fett’s Pursuit

Here we see Boba Fett’s Slave I giving chase to the Millennium Falcon as it heads for Bespin. The ships are pretty hard to make out, but you can just see the glow of their engines against the blackness of space.

The Special Edition added another shot to the pursuit, in which the angle is reversed and both the Falcon and Slave I fly past the camera.

The 2004 release keeps this extended flyby without adding anything in the way of new footage, although Slave I's engine noise has been altered to sound more like it does in the prequels. The restoration also makes the star-field easier to see. This alteration doesn’t detract from the scene so it gets the thumbs up from me.

Again, the Blu-ray is the same.
The Approach to Cloud City

Here we see the original approach to Cloud City as the Millennium Falcon, flanked by a pair of cloud cars, makes its way towards the floating metropolis.

The Special Edition adds all-new CGI footage that shows a lot more of the city as the Falcon twists through towering structures on its way to landing platform 327.

The DVD release is identical to the Special Edition, as you can see from the screenshot. The computer effects work in these new sequences blends very well with the model work, creating an almost seamless transition between the old and the new.

Yet more Blu-ray similarities.
Tibanna Gas Refinery

Here’s a shot of Cloud City as seen from a distance. The city itself is a matte painting, while the cloud car is a moving element that has been composited into the scene. The image is quite muddied, especially when compared to the shots of the city in the scenes immediately following.

The Special Edition removes the cloud car but introduces a Tibanna gas refinery into the shot. Unfortunately the strange pink tint remains, making the scene look very odd when compared to the following scenes in which the sky is a pure blue.

The DVD release keeps the Tibanna refinery but thankfully it ditches the pink tint. I’m sure you’ll agree that this is by far the cleanest and sharpest looking of the three shots. The scene is now far more in -eeping with the following close-up shots of the city.

The shot is identical for the Blu-ray release.
Cloud City Exterior

Here is an exterior shot of Cloud City as it appeared in the original release of the film. You may notice Princess Leia walking around inside of the apartment to the right and a cloud car taking off to the left of the frame.

The Special Edition version redesigns the building and offers a clearer view of Leia, along with adding a second cloud car to the scene.

The 2004 release keeps the Special Edition footage and benefits from the added clarity afforded by the restoration work.

The Blu-ray release goes one further by introducing more natural reflections on the window for added realism.
Where's C-3PO?

Here we see Chewbacca searching for C-3PO in the bowels of Cloud City in this shot from the 1980 version of the film.

Not a lot has changed for the 1997 Special Edition release of the feature.

Again, not much change in 2004 beyond the improvement in picture quality.

However, the Blu-ray release radically alters the look of the scene with new colour timing and digitally added sparks, lending it a much warmer appearance.
Cloud City Interior

Here we see Lando Calrissian escorting his ‘guests’ through the interior of Cloud City. Notice the lack of windows, which denies us an exterior view of the city.

All of this changed with the Special Edition, with the introduction of windows affording a view of the skyscrapers, landing platforms and other structures that comprise the city. This opens the city up a great deal, making it more believable as a floating habitat.

The 2004 DVD release keeps everything that the Special Edition introduced, but as ever it benefits from the added clarity afforded by the restoration work. Having said that, the DVD release's boosted contrast does obscure some exterior detail that was previously visible in the SE.

Still the same on Blu-ray, contrast boosting and all.

Here’s another shot of the new windows added to the city. In the distance you can just make out Boba Fett’s Slave I sitting on a landing platform as he prepares to depart for Tatooine with the carbonite-encased Han Solo.

Here's another example of Lucasfilm's inconsistency when it comes to the Special Edition additions. Remember those lovely big windows with the view of the buildings? Well they're gone in the reverse angle shot. Continuity? What's that? Why this wasn't fixed for the Blu-ray release is beyond me...
Han’s Shirt

Here we see Han Solo immediately before he’s encased in carbonite. Notice how the shoulders of his shirt appear much darker than the surrounding material? This led many people to think that it was a continuity mistake and that Han was actually wearing a sleeveless jacket in this scene.

Here we see the same scene from the Special Edition release. Once again, it looks like Han could indeed be wearing a jacket - except he’s not. If you’ve watched the show When Star Wars Ruled the World you might have seen a behind the scenes clip that shows this very moment being filmed. Han is clearly wearing a white shirt and it is not until he steps up to his marker that the lighting casts a strange shadow, giving the appearance of a sleeveless jacket.

Obviously Lucas decided to finally put this little argument to rest with the 2004 DVD release, as he had his team of effects wizards digitally alter Han’s shirt to remove all doubt. The lightsabers are all over the place, but at least Han doesn’t look like he’s wearing a short-sleeved jacket anymore!

No shadow on the Blu-ray.
Darth Vader’s Lightsaber

If you read my previous article you will probably remember that the lightsabers weren’t as consistent as they could have been through the years. In this shot from the original release we can see Darth Vader’s lightsaber as it is meant to appear, although it's still not as red as it is in other shots (or as red as other Sith sabers).

The Special Edition shot looks a little washed out when compared to the original release, but the red corona of the blade is still clearly visible around the brilliant white core.

Oh dear, what happened? Here we see another of the inconsistent lightsabers found throughout all three films. The restoration work has resulted in an ‘averaging out’ of the scene’s contrast and brightness, which means the loss of the brilliance of the saber’s core. It’s pink-saber Vader!

As you can see Lucasfilm hasn't fixed this error for the Blu-ray release.

Here we have a close-up from the next scene. Notice how the blade still has a red-ish ‘edge’ to it, even though the core is very white?

Things remain largely the same with the Special Edition, although there’s slightly less red apparent than in the original release.

In 2004 Vader’s saber is still pink. This actually occurs numerous times throughout the film, to both Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker’s lightsabers. However, the effect is more noticeable on the red blade of Vader’s saber than the blue of Luke’s. Thankfully the blades are fine for most of this climactic dual and the shots in which they appear to be incorrectly coloured are infrequent. There is also a very brief moment on Dagobah where the sabers look off, but it is almost too fleeting to mention.

Another saber colouring error that's gone unfixed. Actually, unlike the other films in the original trilogy none of the saber errors have been touched in The Empire Strikes Back. Still, at least they added CGI sparks to the scene with Chewie eh?
Cloud City Evacuation

Here we see Lando Calrissian warning the inhabitants of Cloud City to flee before the arrival of more Imperial troops. While this scene worked well as it was, it didn’t lend a particularly impressive sense of scale to the proceedings.

The Special Edition introduced a few new shots to this scene, such as people taking time out from their everyday activities to listen to the message. This shot also gives us another nice look at the exterior of the city.

Things remain the same for the DVD release, with the obvious benefits of the restoration. Other additions include a wide shot of Cloud City's colossal plaza, with many of Cloud City’s inhabitants pausing to listen to Lando.

Again the Blu-ray is identical.
Darth Vader’s Departure

In the original release, after having failed to lure Luke to the dark side of the Force, Darth Vader demands that his troops bring his shuttle so that he may return to the Executor

The Special Edition adds a new scene in which Vader and his troops stride out onto the landing platform to board the shuttle. This extended scene doesn’t really detract from the pacing of the film, and I have nothing against the change (a controversial stance among many Star Wars fans).

Things remain the same for the DVD release. It’s worth noting that the dialogue immediately preceding this new scene has been altered and you can listen to the new lines in the ‘Audio Changes’ section below.

The latest in a long line of identical Blu-ray shots.
The Hatch

In the original release of the film there was an inexplicable ‘white glare’ when Lando opened the top hatch to retrieve Luke from the belly of Cloud City. This created a continuity error, as in the scene immediately following this we see an exterior shot of the Falcon and another hatch opening before Lando appears.

The Special Edition fixed this mistake by adding a digital hatch to the scene. This is one of the small changes that often goes unnoticed, but I for one am glad they did it.

Things are very much the same for the DVD release, although the overall level of detail and clarity of the image is greatly improved (along with the purity of the colours).

You guessed it, the shot is the same on Blu-ray.
Imperial Insignias

Here we see two Imperial officers standing on the bridge of the Executor delivering a report to Darth Vader.

The scene from the Special Edition is much the same, but the observant among you might have noticed that the insignias in their uniforms are on a different side to the rest of the film!

Thanks to the wonders of modern technology, Lucas had his guys digitally reposition the incorrectly placed insignias, much to the delight of anally retentive people everywhere!

Few, this is the last time I have to write the words 'identical' and 'Blu-ray' together.
New Scenes
Darth Vader’s Shuttle

In the original release of the film we never see Darth Vader return to his Star Destroyer after summoning his shuttle. This was fixed for the Special Edition and subsequent DVD release of the film. Here we see the shuttle departing Bespin.

Immediately following the departure from Bespin is a scene portraying the shuttle en route to the Imperial flagship, Executor. I’m particularly fond of this addition, because it showcases the massive scale of the command ship (although it could be argued that it’s a little redundant).
Arrival at the Executor

Here we see Darth Vader’s shuttle landing in one of the flagship’s hanger bays. Or do we? Those of you with keen senses may have noticed that this hanger looks very similar to the one from the Death Star in Return of the Jedi, and you’d be right. This scene is actually an outtake from the third instalment of the trilogy! It's also the topic of many a debate among fans as the insertion of this scene truncates a classic piece of music from John William's amazing score.

Here we see Darth Vader disembarking from his shuttle, where he is greeted by a group of Imperial officers. But wait, who’s that? Why it’s Moff Jejerrod, commander of the second Death Star. But isn’t Admiral Piett in command of the Executor? Oh wait, it’s another outtake from Return of the Jedi! If you look closely you can actually see the Moff mouth his dialogue from the sequel!
Audio Changes
'Thanks 3PO'

After he is attacked by the wampa Luke is treated in the Rebel medical bay by the droid 2-1B. Immediately afterwards, R2-D2 and C-3PO enter the room and express their relief at their master’s wellbeing. In the original release Luke is less than gracious in his acceptance of this sentiment, as evidenced by this clip. Later releases of the film added a line of dialogue that acknowledges the droids, as you can hear by clicking this link.
'This is it!'

When flying into battle against the Imperial walkers Luke can be heard giving commands to his wingmen. However, in one particular scene, Luke’s mouth can be seen moving but no words are heard! Click here for the original version of the scene in question. For the Special Edition onwards the line of dialogue has been restored to the film, as evidenced by this audio clip.
'This is suicide!'

After escaping the pursuing TIE fighters, Han Solo attempts to find a safe haven among the asteroid field. As usual C-3PO is less than optimistic about their chances, as you can hear by clicking this link. Later versions of the scene added another line of dialogue to the scene, which paints 3PO as an even bigger worrier. Click here for the new dialogue.
The Emperor

At one point during the film the Emperor contacts Darth Vader aboard his flagship, the Executor. This exchange acknowledges that both the Emperor and Vader know they are searching for Luke Skywalker. Click here for the original version of this scene. For the 2004 DVD release, actor Ian McDiarmid reprised the role he played in the other films and re-recorded all of the Emperor’s dialogue. What is more, certain lines were altered to make it appear as though Vader was keeping something from the Emperor. You can listen to the new dialogue in its entirety by clicking here.
'As you wish.'

Now we come to one of the audio changes that really annoys the fan-boys. The voice of Boba Fett, which was originally supplied by Jason Wingreen, has been re-recorded by Temuera Morrison (who plays Jango Fett in Attack of the Clones). You can hear the original dialogue by clicking here. The updated dialogue featuring Morrison can be heard by clinking here. Personally I’m undecided on this change, mostly because the quality of Morrison’s delivery is inferior to Wingreen’s.
Lucky R2

Many different mixes have been used over the years, some featuring adlibbed dialogue. One such instance led to one of my favourite lines from the trilogy, just after the swamp creature spits out R2-D2. Click here for the old line. For the Special Edition onwards, a different take of this scene was used. This take featured actor Mark Hamill reading the dialogue as it was on the page. It makes sense in the context of the scene, but it’s not as funny as his adlib. Click here for the new dialogue.
'He’s no good to me dead.'

Now we have more of Boba Fett’s altered dialogue as the bounty hunter informs Darth Vader of his need to keep Han Solo alive. You can click on this link for the old dialogue or this link for Morrison’s new reading.
'What if he doesn’t survive?'

Yet another of Boba’s altered lines can be heard during the scene in which Han Solo is frozen in carbonite. Simply click here for the old dialogue and here for the new rendition. Morrison’s dub has to rank as the worst delivery of a line in the whole of the film and the original dialogue sounds so much better.
'Put Captain Solo in the cargo hold.'

Boba Fett’s final piece of altered dialogue can be heard as he oversees the loading of Han Solo’s frozen body into Slave I. You can compare the two versions by clicking here for the original line and here for the altered one.
Luke’s Scream

In the original release of the movie, when Luke threw himself to his apparent doom after his duel with Darth Vader, he did so with silent dignity. You can listen to this clip by clicking here. For the Special Edition release of the film a scream was added as Luke fell. You can hear the new sound effect by clicking here. Many believe this scream to be the same one used for the Emperor’s death in Return of the Jedi. Whether that’s true or not, I’m of the opinion that it sounds terrible. Thankfully the scream was removed for the 2004 DVD release.
Darth Vader’s Shuttle

After his duel with Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader commanded his underlings to bring his shuttle. People lament the loss of this scene, but I never really liked the quality of the dialogue or the score. You can hear the original dialogue by clicking Click here. For the Special Edition onward, the dialogue has changed considerably to accommodate new footage. You can hear the new dialogue by clicking here. In a move sure to annoy the purists I think this sounds much better than the old line, and contrary to popular belief it is James Earl Jones providing the voice of Darth Vader.
Conclusions
Well there you have it. As with A New Hope before it, The Empire Strikes Back has undergone some serious changes over the years. However, unlike A New Hope the changes made to Empire are more subtle, with fewer CGI scenes shoehorned into the film. The audio substitutions a more numerous than the previous film, but on the whole they work in the context of the story. I’m in agreement with those who believe that Empire stands as the film least corrupted by the various ‘enhancements’ and substitutions, primarily because there have been very few new scenes inserted over the years (such as scenes featuring CGI creatures like Jabba the Hutt). Of course it helps that Empire was easily the best of the three films to begin with. As with my first comparison I doubt this one will ever be truly finished. I will be updating as and when I discover new alterations or additions, or when I receive suitable recommendations from you, the readers. I hope you’ve enjoyed this look at the film, and don’t forget to keep your eyes peeled for the Return of the Jedi comparison in the near future.
You can read the first, third and fourth instalments of the guide by clicking here, here and here.
My thanks go to Russ Dawson for his invaluable help in sourcing some of the material for this comparison.
Editorial by Chris Gould
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I noticed, I think, Han saying on the BD "Until I get the shelter up" instead of "Until I can get the shelter built".
In the audio changes : if you listen to the French dialogue, you can hear LOBOT answering Lando (when he delivers the Princess and Chewie). In the English version, Lobot's lips are moving but he still remains mute !
In the new "Alert my Stardestroyer" line, you should also point out that they changed the score from what already existed in 1980 to the msuic that played just after the "I am your father" line. Maybe you could mention that.
YOU COULD USE A GOOD KISS!
Why on earth was this classic line removed from the DVD version???
Why on earth was this classic line removed from the DVD version???
I've read all your explications and I thank you. But do you know with how softwares this transformations are possibles??? Can you tell me please? thank's.
Someone has probably already mentioned this, but when they are in cloud city and Lando leads them to see Vader the "new and improved" background only appears once as they head down the steps. Then every shot after that in that scene, the background is left as it was (with the orange wall and frosted windows).
Did enjoy reading your comparisons. cheers
Did enjoy reading your comparisons. cheers
Fett
Michael Richards wrote:
Also, I have to disagree with Chris re. the Darth's shuttle scene. I think Darth sounds a little more audibly pissed-off in the original and a little too laid back on the SE.
I was just about to post that. He sounds clearly more displeased/disappointed in the original.
Also, I have to disagree with Chris re. the Darth's shuttle scene. I think Darth sounds a little more audibly pissed-off in the original and a little too laid back on the SE.
I was just about to post that. He sounds clearly more displeased/disappointed in the original.
One thing I did notice is that the audio transitions between Dagobah and the Imperial fleet are much improved in the SE. The original version is very jarring.
Fett
Michael Richards wrote: Also, I have to disagree with Chris re. the Darth's shuttle scene. I think Darth sounds a little more audibly pissed-off in the original and a little too laid back on the SE.
Yeah, that and the need to see Vader's every step back to the Executor are my biggest pet peeves with the SE of Empire. The newly recorded dialogue is awkward and doesn't have an ounce of the menace found in the original dialogue, and the added scenes of Vader getting on and off his shuttle are completely unnecessary.
Yeah, that and the need to see Vader's every step back to the Executor are my biggest pet peeves with the SE of Empire. The newly recorded dialogue is awkward and doesn't have an ounce of the menace found in the original dialogue, and the added scenes of Vader getting on and off his shuttle are completely unnecessary.
Fett
Matt Thompson wrote: I have to agree on the issue of Fett's new voice. I have no problem with Morrison re-recording the dialogue, it's just... he doesn't sound deadly at all. "As you wish" has gone from being said in a threatening tone to "Yes, master!"
I'll second that. I can understand why they went back to overdub the original for continuity reasons but the original British accent sounded more deadly.
Similarly, I can understand why they updated the Emperor but there's something more grotesque/repulsive about the original.
Also, I have to disagree with Chris re. the Darth's shuttle scene. I think Darth sounds a little more audibly pissed-off in the original and a little too laid back on the SE.
I guess if we all picked / left our favourite changes, there’d be a million versions of the film out there.
Another fantastic article Chris - keep it up!!!
I'll second that. I can understand why they went back to overdub the original for continuity reasons but the original British accent sounded more deadly.
Similarly, I can understand why they updated the Emperor but there's something more grotesque/repulsive about the original.
Also, I have to disagree with Chris re. the Darth's shuttle scene. I think Darth sounds a little more audibly pissed-off in the original and a little too laid back on the SE.
I guess if we all picked / left our favourite changes, there’d be a million versions of the film out there.
Another fantastic article Chris - keep it up!!!
Top notch article. Personnally, I prefer alot of the 2004 releases additions, as they put them in continuity with the prequels,(because contrary to fanboy logic, the prequels DO exist, and ARE part of the story, despite whatever they lack in quality), although it is nice to have the originals, for nostalgic murmerings.
Has always been my favorite of the OT films. The "enhancement" are the best of the OT in my opinion.
Nothing to say ...
except nice job as always.
except nice job as always.
The film with the least amount of annoying changes, and most of the annoying changes came with the DVD release, such as the new Boba Fett voice (which isn't as good as the old one, they should have left it as it was and said that Fett had some damage to his voice box or something for the people that like continuity), plus whilst the re-done Emperor was what most people wanted I don't think they wanted the new dialogue.
It's always interesting to read these articles as many of the changes you simple don't notice. You can really see the extent of GL's changes.
It's always interesting to read these articles as many of the changes you simple don't notice. You can really see the extent of GL's changes.
Nice job, Chris. I always enjoy reading these comparisons.
And for the record, Luke's Special Edition scream when he falls into the shaft is actually Albert Finney's scream from when he falls into hell in 1970's "Scrooge". I remember sitting in the theater in 1997 and wondering what the hell that scream was doing in there, as it sounds NOTHING like what Luke would have sounded like. Then I remembered where I'd heard it before, and I was shocked...
It may just be a stock scream, like that one that gets heard in almost every horror movie these days. You can hear it in films like 2004's "Dawn of the Dead", when Sarah Polley is driving away with her husband chasing her, then he turns his attention to a female bystander - THAT'S the scream I'm talking about that gets way overused these days. Oddly enough, this scream pops up in "The Green Mile", when the farmer's wife discovers her two little girls missing.
Sorry to go off-topic and complete geek-boy on everyone...
And for the record, Luke's Special Edition scream when he falls into the shaft is actually Albert Finney's scream from when he falls into hell in 1970's "Scrooge". I remember sitting in the theater in 1997 and wondering what the hell that scream was doing in there, as it sounds NOTHING like what Luke would have sounded like. Then I remembered where I'd heard it before, and I was shocked...
It may just be a stock scream, like that one that gets heard in almost every horror movie these days. You can hear it in films like 2004's "Dawn of the Dead", when Sarah Polley is driving away with her husband chasing her, then he turns his attention to a female bystander - THAT'S the scream I'm talking about that gets way overused these days. Oddly enough, this scream pops up in "The Green Mile", when the farmer's wife discovers her two little girls missing.
Sorry to go off-topic and complete geek-boy on everyone...
What've been the additions this time to the article? Just redone screen caps from the new LE DVD?
It's amazing how much he altered, the originals and the special editions are completely different films.
GREAT JOB CHRIS! It's amazing how a movie can change thru modern technologie.
Another great review, Mr Gould! I really enjoy reading these. Keep it up!
eizenga13 wrote: So when is Morrison (Fett and Stormtroopers) going to go in and replace all the Trooper dialogue? It is unsettling to watch al 6 in a row and the NEW trilogy to have Morrisons voice all over the troopers to the Original Trilogy and not having the voices right- Fix it Lucas!
Clones have accelerated growth remember, and most were killed during The War. Most Imperial Stormtroopers are recruits/drafts, not clones.
Clones have accelerated growth remember, and most were killed during The War. Most Imperial Stormtroopers are recruits/drafts, not clones.
So when is Morrison (Fett and Stormtroopers) going to go in and replace all the Trooper dialogue? It is unsettling to watch al 6 in a row and the NEW trilogy to have Morrisons voice all over the troopers to the Original Trilogy and not having the voices right- Fix it Lucas!
Chears Silverbrain, that audio cut is the worst change in Empire for me, other than the loss of " bring my shuttle".
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Great, mr.Gould! I got a lot of answers reading your pages. Keep it up.
I always liked the scene of Darth Vader awaiting Han Solo and friends behind a closed door at Cloud City.
Solo fires his gun. Vader stops the blasts, and draws the gun from his hand. Then he holds it "up" for an agonizing two seconds before politely inviting the crowd in.
I was annoyed to see Vader being rushed through the scene in the 2004 release, stripping him of some of his caracter. Does anyone know if this is still the original take or not? They obviously shortened it slightly.
Yes Sam, I noticed the audio cut you mentioned. I don't know why they do these things. Perhaps some of the original work is concidered to slow for the current generation of viewers.
I always liked the scene of Darth Vader awaiting Han Solo and friends behind a closed door at Cloud City.
Solo fires his gun. Vader stops the blasts, and draws the gun from his hand. Then he holds it "up" for an agonizing two seconds before politely inviting the crowd in.
I was annoyed to see Vader being rushed through the scene in the 2004 release, stripping him of some of his caracter. Does anyone know if this is still the original take or not? They obviously shortened it slightly.
Yes Sam, I noticed the audio cut you mentioned. I don't know why they do these things. Perhaps some of the original work is concidered to slow for the current generation of viewers.
Also Prince Xizor was GREEN!!!!!
Mysterious Character
John Hughan wrote: The guy in the Russian hat is Prince Xizor, most famous for being a main character in "Shadows of the Empire" (Nintendo64 game and excellent novel taking place between ESB and RotJ) as well as having a major role in the "Bounty Hunter Wars" collection of novels (also good.) He was basically serving the Emperor while working his own deals behind-the-scenes. Vader and he didn't get along because Vader (rightfully so) didn't entirely trust him but the Emperor did.
Ummm, no. Prince Xizor dies during "Shadows", right? Been awhile since I read the book. But no, they are just Imperial Delegates or something.
Ummm, no. Prince Xizor dies during "Shadows", right? Been awhile since I read the book. But no, they are just Imperial Delegates or something.
Someone please answer me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote: In the original release of the film, there was an inexplicable ‘white glare’ when Lando opened the top hatch to retrieve Luke from the belly of Cloud City. This created a continuity error, as in the scene immediately following this we see an exterior shot of the Falcon and another hatch opening before Lando appears.
You could argue there are two hatches. The first one with the white glare above it cud be an all-white chamber, perhaps like a tiny vertical airlock-type thing, ya know? And then the second hatch is the exterior one?
Just an idea
You could argue there are two hatches. The first one with the white glare above it cud be an all-white chamber, perhaps like a tiny vertical airlock-type thing, ya know? And then the second hatch is the exterior one?
Just an idea
Has anybody noticed the cut audio during and after Yoda says to Luke " You will be...you will be " It sounded quite sinister and it annoys me every time I watch ESB!!!!!!!!
chimp woman
I am glad to see the original shots go for one reason. Ian McDiarmid gives a overwhelmingly better performance than Clive Revill lip-sinking to a chimp woman. The weight of his voice is much more menacing and calculating, which seems to me to be the point of the scene in the first place.
I see, sorry about that.
Well in that case, you did quite a good, thorough job. I'm not even going to try to search for something not mentioned in the DVDs
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Well in that case, you did quite a good, thorough job. I'm not even going to try to search for something not mentioned in the DVDs
As I've said before, I'm not going to mention every single little alteration to the sound effects - it's not practical and I'd be here all year. It's just a little added oomph that doesn't alter the scene one bit. There are loads of tweaks like this. If it's dialogue it gets mentioned, if it's an effect it doesn't (unless it is radically different like Obi-Wan's new krayt dragon call).
I'm really surprised you missed this change:
In the original and SE versions of the film (ESB), Luke walks up the stairs to meet Vader, and when he activates his saber, the sound is that of a WOOSH and not a normal activation sound. In the DVD, an additional sound has been dubbed, and it is a solid activation sound. Listen!
In the original and SE versions of the film (ESB), Luke walks up the stairs to meet Vader, and when he activates his saber, the sound is that of a WOOSH and not a normal activation sound. In the DVD, an additional sound has been dubbed, and it is a solid activation sound. Listen!
Man in the Russian hat? What are you talking about?
To the other poster who mentioned the cropping, this is quite common when transferring films to DVD. They often zoom or change shots. In this case, it actually makes the scene a little more claustrophobic, so it's actually an improvement in some ways.
To the other poster who mentioned the cropping, this is quite common when transferring films to DVD. They often zoom or change shots. In this case, it actually makes the scene a little more claustrophobic, so it's actually an improvement in some ways.
Mysterious Character
The guy in the Russian hat is Prince Xizor, most famous for being a main character in "Shadows of the Empire" (Nintendo64 game and excellent novel taking place between ESB and RotJ) as well as having a major role in the "Bounty Hunter Wars" collection of novels (also good.) He was basically serving the Emperor while working his own deals behind-the-scenes. Vader and he didn't get along because Vader (rightfully so) didn't entirely trust him but the Emperor did.
Botched Cropping Job..
I noticed at another forum that someone had noticed some issues involving cropping in some scenes...stemming of course from a botched transfer; but a change nonetheless. In this case it's clearly Han's hands that suffer.
Link
Link
Something You Missed?
Nice work!
You still missed at least two changes, but I'll only cover the one I find most egregious.
There seems to be another dialogue difference between the original release and the 1997/DVD versions. This occurs during the final Vader-Luke scene, in which Darth Vader reveals his identity.
The original theatrical version has Vader say, "If you only knew the power.... Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father." It's a deviation from the 1980 shooting script, which reads, "If you only knew the power of the dark side. Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father."
The words "of the dark side" were reinserted for later versions. I completely favor their omission, since the ambiguity lends far more thematic complexity.
Thanks,
Brian
You still missed at least two changes, but I'll only cover the one I find most egregious.
There seems to be another dialogue difference between the original release and the 1997/DVD versions. This occurs during the final Vader-Luke scene, in which Darth Vader reveals his identity.
The original theatrical version has Vader say, "If you only knew the power.... Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father." It's a deviation from the 1980 shooting script, which reads, "If you only knew the power of the dark side. Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father."
The words "of the dark side" were reinserted for later versions. I completely favor their omission, since the ambiguity lends far more thematic complexity.
Thanks,
Brian
IG-88 hasn't changed. As you said, it's probably because you were watching a pan & scan release that you never noticed his movement before.
IG-88 cgi animated?
Hi Chris, nice work mate!
Wondered if you could check something, i watched the 2004dvd's recently and noticed that Ig-88 had been enhanced slighly, or am i wrong? On board the executor standing next to fett, his eyes seemed to move more and he looked slighly less static than he used to be.
I think similar model assasin droids are appearing in episode 3 so he got a continuity rebuff.
cheers
EDIT: just watched my gold special edition pan and scan screen edition, simply didnt see ig88 before because the screen was too small unlike thw widescreen dvd. Sorry
Wondered if you could check something, i watched the 2004dvd's recently and noticed that Ig-88 had been enhanced slighly, or am i wrong? On board the executor standing next to fett, his eyes seemed to move more and he looked slighly less static than he used to be.
I think similar model assasin droids are appearing in episode 3 so he got a continuity rebuff.
cheers
EDIT: just watched my gold special edition pan and scan screen edition, simply didnt see ig88 before because the screen was too small unlike thw widescreen dvd. Sorry
Return of the Jedi
Question: In ROTJ, Darth Vader comes to the Emperor and tells him that his son is with the rebels. The Emporor asks him if his feelings are clear, etc. As vader leaves, the emporor turns around and a tall gaunt dude, in a Russion hat is standing there, and the guy nods at the Emperor. Who the heck is he, character in move and actor??? It's been bugging me for years.
Asteroid pursuit - TIE lasers.
Hi Chris,
Great article...
A change that you may have missed:
In the pursuit of the Falcon through the asteroid field, the colour of the TIE fighters' lasers changed from green to white in the original release. In the Special Edition this was corrected so that they remained green throughout, which is also how they are in the DVD release.
Nice one,
Tom
PS: Dagobah is misspelt as 'Degobah' in the 'Darth Vader's Lightsaber' section.
Great article...
A change that you may have missed:
In the pursuit of the Falcon through the asteroid field, the colour of the TIE fighters' lasers changed from green to white in the original release. In the Special Edition this was corrected so that they remained green throughout, which is also how they are in the DVD release.
Nice one,
Tom
PS: Dagobah is misspelt as 'Degobah' in the 'Darth Vader's Lightsaber' section.
You must have missed it. It comes directly before the scene in which Han uses the lightsaber to open up the tauntaun, not directly afterwards. It is definitely on the DVD because I've just checked.
I watched it last night, and the sequence went right from Hahn opening up the Tantan with the light sabre directly to the morning scene with nothing inbetween. I seem to remember the door closing and Chewie screaming. That didn't happen when I watched it last night.
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by this. If you mean the scene where the officer approaches Leia and tells her the shield doors must be closed for the night, it's still in the movie (and has been in every version that I've ever seen).
Scene Deletion
Real nice job Chris. Just stumbled on this site today.
I see no-one mentioned the deleted scene about the base being closed for the night while Hahn is looking for Luke in the freezing cold.
It seems to me that this is the only deleted scene. Is that true?
I see no-one mentioned the deleted scene about the base being closed for the night while Hahn is looking for Luke in the freezing cold.
It seems to me that this is the only deleted scene. Is that true?
Cheers. I know about the change to Slave I, but I'm not including sound effect because the comparison would get ridiculously big.
Slave I's engines
Hi everyone!
Chris, you have made a superb work, congratulations! I hope you find this piece of information useful for your review.
In ESB we can hear the sound of Fett's Slave I twice, pursuing the Falcon and taking off Cloud City. In the DVD version the sound of the engines is the same we can hear in the "Attack of teh Clones" Slave I, unlike in previews versions of ESB.
Chris, you have made a superb work, congratulations! I hope you find this piece of information useful for your review.
In ESB we can hear the sound of Fett's Slave I twice, pursuing the Falcon and taking off Cloud City. In the DVD version the sound of the engines is the same we can hear in the "Attack of teh Clones" Slave I, unlike in previews versions of ESB.
Great job with these articles.They were the final push I needed to register on this quite excellent site.
Congratulations, and the last one is eagerly awaited.
Congratulations, and the last one is eagerly awaited.
I originally intended for it to be done by tonight, but it didn't happen. The basic structure of the article is done, and I only have a few caps left to take before I have everything I want to cover in the first draft. Hopefully it'll be up tomorrow...
Hey Chris, how soon can we expect the article for Return of the Jedi?
Still makes me laugh when Leia falls in to Han's arms, after the Falcon tilts suddenly in that meteorite, and Han has a quick grope of one Leia's tits.
leia's scream?
Possible sound change: when Han and Leia are running through the Hoth base the wall collapses on top of them, Han tackles Leia and she emits a scream. In the original the scream was a high pitched squeak. I believe this was changed to a the scream she makes later when seeing the mynock (slightly altered).
Or maybe I'm hearing things.
Great article! I agree with you on almost every point. I cheered when Luke's scream disappeared from the DVD and I hate Fett's voice switch with a passion. However, I think Vader's simple "Bring my shuttle" exudes way more emotion than the expanded line.
Or maybe I'm hearing things.
Great article! I agree with you on almost every point. I cheered when Luke's scream disappeared from the DVD and I hate Fett's voice switch with a passion. However, I think Vader's simple "Bring my shuttle" exudes way more emotion than the expanded line.
Emperor
I'm fine with most of the changes, including using Ian McDiarmid to re-shoot the emperor scene. I'm less than thrilled with the new dialogue from that scene, or more correctly, its placement in the film.
The opening scroll tells us that Vader is obsessed with finding young Skywalker, hence the thousands of probe droids being sent out.
Yet, after they found the rebels, fought the hoth battle, and started chasing the escaped rebels, only THEN does the emperor tells Vader that the guy who blew up the death star is the son of skywalker, and Vader's surprised and like, "are you sure?" It borders on being a continuity gaffe, and I'm surprised that it bothers almost nobody. I suppose you could argue that Vader was hiding his obsession with finding Luke from the emperor and had already figured it all out on his own, but given how intimidated Vader is by the Emperor in RotJ, it seems implausible...
I'll have to watch it again more closely - I was getting the kids ready for bed when I had it on, so maybe it's not as bad as it seemed.
Not much else really bothers me about the changes, though I agree that the new Boba Fett's lines are much worse than the original, though it didn't really register while watching, the side-by-side comparison shows how bad the new delivery is.
Great review overall, though, and very thorough. Looking forward to Jedi...
The opening scroll tells us that Vader is obsessed with finding young Skywalker, hence the thousands of probe droids being sent out.
Yet, after they found the rebels, fought the hoth battle, and started chasing the escaped rebels, only THEN does the emperor tells Vader that the guy who blew up the death star is the son of skywalker, and Vader's surprised and like, "are you sure?" It borders on being a continuity gaffe, and I'm surprised that it bothers almost nobody. I suppose you could argue that Vader was hiding his obsession with finding Luke from the emperor and had already figured it all out on his own, but given how intimidated Vader is by the Emperor in RotJ, it seems implausible...
I'll have to watch it again more closely - I was getting the kids ready for bed when I had it on, so maybe it's not as bad as it seemed.
Not much else really bothers me about the changes, though I agree that the new Boba Fett's lines are much worse than the original, though it didn't really register while watching, the side-by-side comparison shows how bad the new delivery is.
Great review overall, though, and very thorough. Looking forward to Jedi...
Doesn't really take a genius to work that one out.
If you REALLY want to know.....
IT'S CALLED CONTINUITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you REALLY want to know.....
IT'S CALLED CONTINUITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ian McDiarmid and Temuera Morrison in "The Empire Strikes Back"?!
Would you please just give me one good reason why Ian McDiarmid (from Episodes I, II, III and VI) and Temuera Morrison (from Episodes II and III) appear as Emperor Palpatine and Boba Fett in "Star Wars--Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back"? Let me know what you think. May the Force be with you.
Quote: Originally posted by Tim Freeman
2) another minor change to the audio, but I think between the original and special editions, the voice right before 3PO gets shot (Who are you), was made more understandable. I could be wrong though.
Hmmm, something went wrong there. I definitely captured the audio relating to the change you mention, and I remember taking the screen cap of 3P0 looking surprised. I'll have to go hunting for them as I've no idea where they went!
2) another minor change to the audio, but I think between the original and special editions, the voice right before 3PO gets shot (Who are you), was made more understandable. I could be wrong though.
Hmmm, something went wrong there. I definitely captured the audio relating to the change you mention, and I remember taking the screen cap of 3P0 looking surprised. I'll have to go hunting for them as I've no idea where they went!
1) great article
2) another minor change to the audio, but I think between the original and special editions, the voice right before 3PO gets shot (Who are you), was made more understandable. I could be wrong though.
3) I think the Fett change was a bad one. And also, I don't see a reason why it had to be done in the name of continuity or anything else. Just because someone is a clone does not mean he will grow up sounding exactly the same, and besides who's to say that Fett hasn't built in a voice modulator into his helmet like Boushh. Just my two cents.
2) another minor change to the audio, but I think between the original and special editions, the voice right before 3PO gets shot (Who are you), was made more understandable. I could be wrong though.
3) I think the Fett change was a bad one. And also, I don't see a reason why it had to be done in the name of continuity or anything else. Just because someone is a clone does not mean he will grow up sounding exactly the same, and besides who's to say that Fett hasn't built in a voice modulator into his helmet like Boushh. Just my two cents.
Boba Fett's Redub
My major problem with this redub of his original voice is that Boba does not sound menacing. He sounds like he should be farming sheep. It really de-mystifies one of the great Star Wars characters, and takes away from the "other world"-ly feel of Star Wars to hear a New Zealander delivering lines. Also, if redub's had to be done, why not simply get Lucas to use his brain and change the voice's in the new Star Wars films. After all, I was always under the impression Boba had a voice altering box in his helmet, ala Leia as the bounty hunter in Return. This is the single reason why i will not buy these dvd's.
Empire is the least 'tainted' of all the films for me. Most of the additions are fairly innocuous, and don't alter the flow of the film. The SFX scenes blend much better with the old models because they only used CGI ships, not living creatures. Even the wampa scenes don't bad because it's a guy in a suit, not a CGI monster.
For me, the reason that the other films are less enjoyable is all of the CGI that's been used to try and insert creatures and characters. I don't care what Lucas says, the human eye is readily able to detect the artificiality of CGI. The pacing of Star Wars was screwed by silly little scenes like Jabba, the extended Mos Eisley approach and the like. When I watch a film I don't want to see the effects, I want to be able to suspend my disbelief and stay within the story. CGI creations pull me out of the moment and make it hard to enjoy the film. Jar Jar was a constant distraction in TPM, and the original trilogy could do without Jabba, the new Sarlaac, the CGI Max Rebo band, the Mos Eisley approach, the the CGI Stormtroopers and the like.
For me, the reason that the other films are less enjoyable is all of the CGI that's been used to try and insert creatures and characters. I don't care what Lucas says, the human eye is readily able to detect the artificiality of CGI. The pacing of Star Wars was screwed by silly little scenes like Jabba, the extended Mos Eisley approach and the like. When I watch a film I don't want to see the effects, I want to be able to suspend my disbelief and stay within the story. CGI creations pull me out of the moment and make it hard to enjoy the film. Jar Jar was a constant distraction in TPM, and the original trilogy could do without Jabba, the new Sarlaac, the CGI Max Rebo band, the Mos Eisley approach, the the CGI Stormtroopers and the like.
I've always thought fans were a little too critical of the changes to ESB. The only one I didn't really like was Luke's scream but that's gone from the DVD's anyway. The rest of them I didn't actually notice until I read this article. I can understand how some may be annoyed by the changes in ANH and ROTJ as they are clear as day and some of them are pretty bad. The CGI jabba for example, I don't like. Although I've always felt backlash over the SE's was more of a reaction to the lost sense of nostalgia than the films actually being made worse. I don't understand how some fans can say the originals are some of the greatest films ever while the special editions are complete garbage. I say there are some things I like better in the originals, some things I like better in the special editions, but the changes don't really amount to much. I can watch both versions of the trilogy and enjoy them equally.
sorry
He definitely says "Yes, run!" on the Definitive laser disc editions. It's buried in the mix, but it's definitely there.
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Sorry, i never heard it on them before.
Chris Gould
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Sorry, i never heard it on them before.
Tibanna gas refinery added to comparison.
Quote: Originally posted by Cheddar J. Cheese
If I'm not mistaken, in the original release of Episode V, when Luke is training on Dagobah with Yoda on his back, he says nothing but in everything else onward, he says "Run!" Thought you may want to consider the addition of this in Audio Changes.
He definitely says "Yes, run!" on the Definitive laser disc editions. It's buried in the mix, but it's definitely there.
If I'm not mistaken, in the original release of Episode V, when Luke is training on Dagobah with Yoda on his back, he says nothing but in everything else onward, he says "Run!" Thought you may want to consider the addition of this in Audio Changes.
He definitely says "Yes, run!" on the Definitive laser disc editions. It's buried in the mix, but it's definitely there.
Quote: Originally posted by Jeff Benson
Chris -
Can you check something? When Solo first rides into Echo base, you can see some X-wings in bays to Solo's right. The hanger bays have no rear walls - instead, you can see through to other bays, and more X-wings.
Nope, they're there in the original release.
Chris -
Can you check something? When Solo first rides into Echo base, you can see some X-wings in bays to Solo's right. The hanger bays have no rear walls - instead, you can see through to other bays, and more X-wings.
Nope, they're there in the original release.
Quote: Originally posted by lord vader
I believe the scroll at the beginning of the movie has changed somewhat. It used to
say the rebel base was in the hoth system.
Not directly implying that the planet was called hoth. in the new DVD release it has been changed to say that the rebel base is
on the ice planet of hoth.
Not true. It's always said remote Ice world of Hoth.
I believe the scroll at the beginning of the movie has changed somewhat. It used to
say the rebel base was in the hoth system.
Not directly implying that the planet was called hoth. in the new DVD release it has been changed to say that the rebel base is
on the ice planet of hoth.
Not true. It's always said remote Ice world of Hoth.
Brilliant! Can't wait for the return of the jedi one!
Just wanna add my two cents and say that these are superb articles, it's amazing what subtle changes have been made that you just don't notice unless you watch it scene for scene in explicit detail. Keep up the great work
Quote: Originally posted by William Levin
You think the Boba Fett redubs are bad? I bet that for the future HD DVD release of Star Wars, Lucas is going to replace all James Earl Jones' Darth Vader voiceovers with Hayden Christensen's voice, just to preserve continuity. HA!
Geez - I hope not - no one could replace James Earl Jones as Vader!
You think the Boba Fett redubs are bad? I bet that for the future HD DVD release of Star Wars, Lucas is going to replace all James Earl Jones' Darth Vader voiceovers with Hayden Christensen's voice, just to preserve continuity. HA!
Geez - I hope not - no one could replace James Earl Jones as Vader!
scroll
I believe the scroll at the beginning of the movie has changed somewhat. It used to
say the rebel base was in the hoth system.
Not directly implying that the planet was called hoth. in the new DVD release it has been changed to say that the rebel base is
on the ice planet of hoth.
say the rebel base was in the hoth system.
Not directly implying that the planet was called hoth. in the new DVD release it has been changed to say that the rebel base is
on the ice planet of hoth.
Yoda
If I'm not mistaken, in the original release of Episode V, when Luke is training on Dagobah with Yoda on his back, he says nothing but in everything else onward, he says "Run!" Thought you may want to consider the addition of this in Audio Changes.
Changes to sound effects are a little beyond the scope of this article. I'd never be finished if I catalogued everything that has been changed over the years!
ESB Audio
Fantastic job for ANH & ESB - can't wait for RoTJ!
I may be wrong, but when Slave 1 follows the Falcon from the "trash", hasn't the Slave 1 engine noise been updated to match AoTC (even though the engine would not be audible in the vacuum of space!)?
I may be wrong, but when Slave 1 follows the Falcon from the "trash", hasn't the Slave 1 engine noise been updated to match AoTC (even though the engine would not be audible in the vacuum of space!)?
I prefer restoration over revisionism.
I just want to say I prefer the chimp-woman. Artistically I think it was better -- quite odd, strange and beautiful. I should say that consistency with the other episodes doesn't mean much to me as it does others, actually, because a) I don't like the other Star Wars movies made since ESB, they're low-brow compared to the first two made; so as a huge fan of ESB I have no interest in seeing modification of the movie for the sake of other movies I don't much care about. And b) even if I loved Ewok and JarJar movies, I would still prefer a focus on internal consistency and artistic integrity, rather than obsessively trying to make a bunch of movies exactly match -- a bunch of movies made in different eras under different influences.
For instance, the original Star Wars was made in a era of carfully crafted stop-motion animation, machine controlled matting rotoscoping, etc -- things to be appreciated. The craft of, and artistry that goes into swoopy-doopy CGI is also to be respected, but it's not so authentic to the original pieces. Personally, I don't think most CGI looks good anyway, simply an aesthetic I'm not real attracted to. I'm convinced that in only a few years more the CGI style look that currently drenches movies, television and video games will be a mark of the age, something like every other "look" of special effects of the past will show its age. The most earnest, overly-serious applications are always the ones that end up being the most cheesy with time. FX will certainly continue to be computer made, of course, and improve, but the current slick swoopy-whoopie-wow style of CGI WILL change in the future.... like everything else, from values, music and hairstyles to popular mediums and subjects of entertainment.
With that in mind, I hope someday we'll get to enjoy restored versions of the very original releases added to the collection.
IMHO
For instance, the original Star Wars was made in a era of carfully crafted stop-motion animation, machine controlled matting rotoscoping, etc -- things to be appreciated. The craft of, and artistry that goes into swoopy-doopy CGI is also to be respected, but it's not so authentic to the original pieces. Personally, I don't think most CGI looks good anyway, simply an aesthetic I'm not real attracted to. I'm convinced that in only a few years more the CGI style look that currently drenches movies, television and video games will be a mark of the age, something like every other "look" of special effects of the past will show its age. The most earnest, overly-serious applications are always the ones that end up being the most cheesy with time. FX will certainly continue to be computer made, of course, and improve, but the current slick swoopy-whoopie-wow style of CGI WILL change in the future.... like everything else, from values, music and hairstyles to popular mediums and subjects of entertainment.
With that in mind, I hope someday we'll get to enjoy restored versions of the very original releases added to the collection.
IMHO
Yep, the line "Join me and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son." is definately on the R2 disc. Not sure how you could miss such an important line really...
You need to have your hearing checked...
I can't believe this wasn't mentioned in the article. Either that or I'm really confused myself. I don't have my laser disc hooked up now so I can't verify this but...
At the end of the light-saber duel when Darth Vader is trying to entice Luke to the dark side I distinctly remember him saying the line, "Join me and together we will rule the galaxy as father and son." But that line is not in the DVD!
Has anyone else noticed this?
At the end of the light-saber duel when Darth Vader is trying to entice Luke to the dark side I distinctly remember him saying the line, "Join me and together we will rule the galaxy as father and son." But that line is not in the DVD!
Has anyone else noticed this?
What's next?
You think the Boba Fett redubs are bad? I bet that for the future HD DVD release of Star Wars, Lucas is going to replace all James Earl Jones' Darth Vader voiceovers with Hayden Christensen's voice, just to preserve continuity. HA!
Article now back to normal again
Great article Chris,looking forward to part 3.
I'm curious if anybody has purchased the definitive dvd collection which is a rip of the laser discs,if so what do people think of them?? i see it all the time on ebay and was thinking of picking it up to go with the official release.
I'm curious if anybody has purchased the definitive dvd collection which is a rip of the laser discs,if so what do people think of them?? i see it all the time on ebay and was thinking of picking it up to go with the official release.
E.S.B
Great article again Chris. Especially the "Audio" part. A few surprises for me there I tell you.
Especially with Vader.
p.s I can understand redubbing Boba Fett's lines..but his delivery of the lines maybe wasn't as good as the other guy.
Especially with Vader.
p.s I can understand redubbing Boba Fett's lines..but his delivery of the lines maybe wasn't as good as the other guy.
Well Done Chris. I like your analysis of the dialogue change in Vader's conversation with the Emperor. I just want to reinforce what you said in that I think most of the changes in Empire were for the sake of continuity, with changes to the ice monster and cloud city just to give more exposure.
Great article, I'm looking foward to Jedi's analysis.
Great article, I'm looking foward to Jedi's analysis.
In my opinion, Empire got the worst change of the entire trilogy.. maybe it was the less altered, but the one thing that stands out the most bothered me more than anything else(yes, even Greedo and in the infamous Jedi one[which I'm sure'll be highlighted in part 3..]).
Boba loses all his menace in this version, I think. No complaint on the rest of the changes. At any rate, it's all trivial if you still have the original VHS trilogy.
(Which I still do; something that I'm thankful for now more than ever.)
Boba loses all his menace in this version, I think. No complaint on the rest of the changes. At any rate, it's all trivial if you still have the original VHS trilogy.
Bring my shuttle
Au contraire... if you listen to Vaders original line "Bring my shuttle" you can hear in his voice that he is seriously pissed off for letting Luke slip through his fingers. In it's current existance, the line just sounds like too much dialogue rush delivered by Mr Jones when he wasn't in a Vader-mood.... or so it seems to me at least hehehe
audio change
great article!
here's a possible addition:
one of my favorite changes to EMPIRE was made for the Special Edition, and it's an audio change:
in the scene where the Millennium Falcon escapes from Cloud City, there's a very climactic moment in the film's score. I can only describe it as four high-pitched "string beats", followed by a low-pitched sound just when the Falcon flies off.
now, in the original release, there was nothing extraordinarily special about the scene, but for the Special Edition, the four "string beats" have been timed to hit synchronously with the blaster beams fired at the Falcon by the Stormtroopers. or rather, the blaster beams have been timed to hit synchronously with the "string beats", I suppose :-)
anyway, I totally prefer the new version, because it has a much more climactic feeling to it than it did originally.
Tom
here's a possible addition:
one of my favorite changes to EMPIRE was made for the Special Edition, and it's an audio change:
in the scene where the Millennium Falcon escapes from Cloud City, there's a very climactic moment in the film's score. I can only describe it as four high-pitched "string beats", followed by a low-pitched sound just when the Falcon flies off.
now, in the original release, there was nothing extraordinarily special about the scene, but for the Special Edition, the four "string beats" have been timed to hit synchronously with the blaster beams fired at the Falcon by the Stormtroopers. or rather, the blaster beams have been timed to hit synchronously with the "string beats", I suppose :-)
anyway, I totally prefer the new version, because it has a much more climactic feeling to it than it did originally.
Tom
I don't know, in my opinion, whoever was going to buy this DVD set already has regardless of the changes.
Great work.
You take it like a man, not scream like a little bitch.
Wouldn't YOU be screaming if you'd just found out that the most evil, murderous man in the galaxy was your dad?
"Yes, uh, my father, is, uh, ... *cough* Darth Vader."
"Dude! Your dad BLEW UP MY HOME PLANET!"
"Yes, uh, my father, is, uh, ... *cough* Darth Vader."
"Dude! Your dad BLEW UP MY HOME PLANET!"
Well done again!
Another excellent article!
With the Boba Fett voice retouch, I think that one of the main reasons why it sounds so wrong is due to the large difference in accents from the different actors. I wonder what we would have thought if Temuera Morrison had voiced the original and Jason Wingreen did the redub.
Oh and on a picky note with Luke's scream, why would a Jedi scream like that if he had come to the decision that Luke had?
With the Boba Fett voice retouch, I think that one of the main reasons why it sounds so wrong is due to the large difference in accents from the different actors. I wonder what we would have thought if Temuera Morrison had voiced the original and Jason Wingreen did the redub.
Oh and on a picky note with Luke's scream, why would a Jedi scream like that if he had come to the decision that Luke had?
Chris -
Can you check something? When Solo first rides into Echo base, you can see some X-wings in bays to Solo's right. The hanger bays have no rear walls - instead, you can see through to other bays, and more X-wings.
I don't have a VCR or laserdisc hooked up so I can't check, but I was reasonably certain that before, the back of those bays was a wall of snow.
Can you check something? When Solo first rides into Echo base, you can see some X-wings in bays to Solo's right. The hanger bays have no rear walls - instead, you can see through to other bays, and more X-wings.
I don't have a VCR or laserdisc hooked up so I can't check, but I was reasonably certain that before, the back of those bays was a wall of snow.
I don't care for the changes/added scenes at the end of EMPIRE when Darth Vader leaves Cloud City for the Executor. In the original, we see Vader leaving and then later on the bridge of his ship, we don't need extra scenes to show how he got there because we already know all we need to know from the removed and much more menacing line, "Bring me my shuttle.". This change adds nothing and throws the pacing of the film off, it definitely doesn't work for me.
Nice article though, you even pointed out some things I hadn't noticed yet after watching the DVDs 2 or 3 times so far.
Nice article though, you even pointed out some things I hadn't noticed yet after watching the DVDs 2 or 3 times so far.
Another Excellent piece.
I guess I'm going to be the black sheep, but I actually prefer Morrison's voice as Boba Fett.
Problem with the comments system is fixed... sorry about that.
Spelling errors now corrected. A few are bound to creep into an article of this size, but hopefully I've caught them all now. To address a couple of the comments:
I did consider adding the saber deactivation blooper, but it's hard to communicate that it happens at the wrong tiem with just a sound clip and a static picture. I may add it later though.
The 'second Cloud City' is actually a Tibanna gas mining platform, and you're right about it being added to the film from the SE onwards. I'll update the comparison accordingly (but not tonight as I need sleep).
I did consider adding the saber deactivation blooper, but it's hard to communicate that it happens at the wrong tiem with just a sound clip and a static picture. I may add it later though.
The 'second Cloud City' is actually a Tibanna gas mining platform, and you're right about it being added to the film from the SE onwards. I'll update the comparison accordingly (but not tonight as I need sleep).
outstanding
Another great job Chris! Not only is this fun to read, but its a facinating look at the workings of Lucas too.
He'll flip some insignia and make a shirt lighter when there are still chroma boxes and chroma color bleed for the last few battles in the first movie.
Very odd.
He'll flip some insignia and make a shirt lighter when there are still chroma boxes and chroma color bleed for the last few battles in the first movie.
Very odd.
Good work
Good work - one can learn a lot from your articles :-)
One minor thing; I think I have encountered some spelling "bugs" in the article. Personally I wouldn't care (the information is the most important thing to me, I am not English myself, we are - mostly - all only human) neverthelss I think that at least titles should be spelled correctly (for example Could City Interior).
And second one; you wrote that Boba Fett is saying "He's no use to me dead". Well I personally do hear "He's no good to me dead"...
Otherwise great work - it must took some time! I'm looking forward to 3rd episode... :-)
One minor thing; I think I have encountered some spelling "bugs" in the article. Personally I wouldn't care (the information is the most important thing to me, I am not English myself, we are - mostly - all only human) neverthelss I think that at least titles should be spelled correctly (for example Could City Interior).
And second one; you wrote that Boba Fett is saying "He's no use to me dead". Well I personally do hear "He's no good to me dead"...
Otherwise great work - it must took some time! I'm looking forward to 3rd episode... :-)
Fett
I have to agree on the issue of Fett's new voice. I have no problem with Morrison re-recording the dialogue, it's just... he doesn't sound deadly at all. "As you wish" has gone from being said in a threatening tone to "Yes, master!"
Second City?
I was watching the DVD of this and noticed a second cloud city floating next to the main one. Since I don't have a VCR anymore can someone tell me if there is another city floating around in the original release?
Another job well done!
Another very well done, in depth piece Mr. Gould. May i suggest something for audio changes, not sure if it's just an error but as Luke is leaving the Wampa's cave, we hear him turn off his sabre, but it's still on! Not sure if it qualifies. However, you have been doing a tremendous job with these articles and I'm sure everyone is looking forward to "Jedi".

