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9th August 2006 0:33  #1

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
4 Hr Oliver Stone's "Alexander" is coming to disc!
I found this interview on Oliver Stone, and he says he doesn't want to waste the unused shots and scenes he took for "Alexander", so he is going to release an extended cut to DVD.

Read here...
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/news.php?id=4242

9th August 2006 0:51  #2

Manda of Mu Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 458
OH NO!

....and wasn't there already an extended cut?

9th August 2006 0:57  #3

Jersey Jedi Member Join Date: August 2004 Location: United States Posts: 714
I love Oliver Stone, yet I hated the theatrical Alexander. Then again, this could be another Kingdom of Heaven DC. Hmmm...

Decisions, Decisions

9th August 2006 0:58  #4

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
Manda of Mu wrote: OH NO!

....and wasn't there already an extended cut?
Nope, there was a director's cut that cut out a few homophobic scenes though.

9th August 2006 2:13  #5

Mr.Badass Banned Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 539
Tony DeFrancisco wrote: Manda of Mu wrote: OH NO!

....and wasn't there already an extended cut?
Nope, there was a director's cut that cut out a few homophobic scenes though.


well, you mean homosexual not homophobic

9th August 2006 2:17  #6

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
Mr.Badass wrote: Tony DeFrancisco wrote: Manda of Mu wrote: OH NO!

....and wasn't there already an extended cut?
Nope, there was a director's cut that cut out a few homophobic scenes though.


well, you mean homosexual not homophobic
Oh yes, I did, sorry about that.

9th August 2006 2:28  #7

Mr.Badass Banned Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 539
and the 4 hourt cut wil be brill

9th August 2006 10:40  #8

Manda of Mu Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 458
so hold on a min...they are releasing an extended cut AFTER releasing a director's cut (meaning the way the director originaly had intended to show in theaters but could not for whatever reasons)? So does this make this release NOT a director's cut but rather just a longer version of the film? I mean because if the director actually wanted this in his film wouldn't he just throw it into his own cut? Man, this is making my head spin.

9th August 2006 11:09  #9

Mr.Badass Banned Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 539
the thing about the "director's cut" of Alexander is it's bogus because Oliver Stone's true director's cut is gonna be the 4 hour cut cause he wanted the homosexual scenes in and I wouldn't even call them homosexual it's just some looks from Jared Leto's characters and a kiss or 2

9th August 2006 15:06  #10

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Mr.Badass wrote: the thing about the "director's cut" of Alexander is it's bogus because Oliver Stone's true director's cut is gonna be the 4 hour cut cause he wanted the homosexual scenes in and I wouldn't even call them homosexual it's just some looks from Jared Leto's characters and a kiss or 2

How can it be bogus if Stone made it?  This was a bad, bad movie and I doubt there is anything you can really do to make it a better movie.  It started with bad casting and just got worse from there.

9th August 2006 16:23  #11

Stephen Etherton Member Join Date: October 2003 Location: United States Posts: 706
Alexander: Super Extended Director's Cut
Working Subtitles are...

a.) 4more hours you will not get back edition.
b.) With footage we found laying around edition.
c.) Buy this to show you are not homophobic edition.
d.) Rosario Dawson Edition.
e.) Stone Edition (with enhanced grassy knoll footage).
f.) Trying to make an epic out of a molehill edition.

9th August 2006 16:23  #12

Mr.Badass Banned Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 539
it's the studio's cut bot Oliver's

9th August 2006 17:26  #13

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,149
3 different version of the same film? That must be breaking new ground surely.

And here I was thinking I was clever by picking up both the theatrical and (so called) directors cuts up for 5 quid each.

This is all really tish and fipsy though isn't it? The directors cut was shorter then the theatrical version. It was supposed to be a tighter edit and what, with a little more time to view it objectively, Oliver Sone wanted. By being able to shorten it, he must have believed that it did play too long and now less than a year later he's saying, 'Nah, actually it could do to be another hour and a half longer.'

Still, it's his movie so screw it. Lets be avin' it then. The longer the better.

Then they can release the theatrical onto HD-DVD and wait for fans (sorry fan) of the film to moan about not having the directors cut. Then a few years down the line, the extended cut will be released and fan will still moan at the lack of a true directors cut. Cynical? Moi?

They're already doing this. Lethal Weapon on HD-DVD (theatrical cut when the directors cut is already on DVD)

T2 on HD/BR, (theatrical cut only when extended version is available). I pity the poor wallets of the early adopters.

I don't know, off topic again.

9th August 2006 18:17  #14

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: 3 different version of the same film? That must be breaking new ground surely.

T2 on HD/BR, (theatrical cut only when extended version is available). I pity the poor wallets of the early adopters.


It's funny you mention T2 and then say three cuts is unheard of as the Ultimate T2 had three cuts of the movie on it.  Very Happy

Do HD/BD support seemless branching?  This is something I would like to see done more.

9th August 2006 19:07  #15

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,149
A I was writing that I knew there must be already films out there with more than 2 differing cuts to them. You are right about T2 though. I'd forgotten about the future coda that could be tacked on to the end. I'd never really thought of that as a 3rd complete cut though.

I suppose Blade Runner now falls into the 3's club (sorry 4's club) with the theatrical cut, the International cut, the Directors (rush job) cut, and the Final Cut.

Anyone else no of films that have been released in 3 or more different versions?

9th August 2006 19:36  #16

Manda of Mu Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 458
What about Dawn of the Dead?
-Theatrical cut
-Extended cut
-European cut

thankfully though, their all included in the Ultimate Edition although I think they were released separately too.

9th August 2006 19:37  #17

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: A I was writing that I knew there must be already films out there with more than 2 differing cuts to them. You are right about T2 though. I'd forgotten about the future coda that could be tacked on to the end. I'd never really thought of that as a 3rd complete cut though.

I suppose Blade Runner now falls into the 3's club (sorry 4's club) with the theatrical cut, the International cut, the Directors (rush job) cut, and the Final Cut.

Anyone else no of films that have been released in 3 or more different versions?


Would the "Star Wars Trilogy" (IV, V, VI) count?

9th August 2006 20:08  #18

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Brazil has three different cuts as well doesn't it?  Theatrical (131 mins) Directors (142 mins) and Edited (94 mins)

9th August 2006 21:31  #19

DarthElektra Member Join Date: February 2006 Location: United States Posts: 97
I love Oliver Stone, Alexander wasnt the best film but it didnt suck as badly as everyone says it did.

9th August 2006 22:25  #20

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,149
Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: Intergalactic Ponce wrote: A I was writing that I knew there must be already films out there with more than 2 differing cuts to them. You are right about T2 though. I'd forgotten about the future coda that could be tacked on to the end. I'd never really thought of that as a 3rd complete cut though.

I suppose Blade Runner now falls into the 3's club (sorry 4's club) with the theatrical cut, the International cut, the Directors (rush job) cut, and the Final Cut.

Anyone else no of films that have been released in 3 or more different versions?


Would the "Star Wars Trilogy" (IV, V, VI) count?


I was going to include the Star Wars films in my previous reply but I deleted it all. It's too much of a mine field even if you disregard the Special Editions because there are 2 versions of those as well. Plus episodes 4-6 had slight changes to them in and around their original releases so no, I just didn't want to go there. Any other films with 3 or more versions commercially available (excluding Star Wars) is fine for the purposes of my query.

10th August 2006 4:48  #21

Bob "the film man" Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United States Posts: 258
This film wasn't even remotely good. Even the battle sequences were drawn out.

10th August 2006 18:02  #22

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Close Encounters of the Third Kind

11th August 2006 20:28  #23

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
"Longer isn't better"-Dr Ruth

11th August 2006 20:36  #24

Mr.Badass Banned Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 539
Adrian wrote: Brazil has three different cuts as well doesn't it?  Theatrical (131 mins) Directors (142 mins) and Edited (94 mins)

techinally 4 cause the european cut was different also

12th August 2006 1:18  #25

juanacate Member Join Date: August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 20 Send a message via MSN to juanacate
I really liked the tc of the movie so I will definately have to get my hands on this. Aside of the bad reviews it got, I personally think its pretty good.

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