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The whole series is classic. They are 1000 times better than some of the tripe that is posing as sci-fi these days. The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions anyone?
I've never really understood the venom spewed at Alien 3.  Not the best movie in the world, but I certainly enjoyed it.  I need to sit down and watch the extended version.
Keith I implore you give the Extended Edition a try.  It's a far better paced and more fleshed out cut and (some slightly dodgy optical effects aside) a worthy addition to the series.
That was my thought too.  A terrible sequel, they shouldn't have made it.  Because of my dislike for the theatrical release, I will not buy the DVD extended version.

I'm tired of sequels. Generally, for my taste in movies, they aren't good, and I spend a bunch of money in the theater to find that out.
I think each of the films scratches a slightly different itch.  Which is rightly so in a franchise.  I'm sure Aliens contributed a great deal to the popularity of the series by marketing it to the action/ adventure crowd.
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: If I were to compile a list of my favorite films, Ridley Scott's "Alien" would be close to the top. I don't want to dissect the film to demonstrate its brilliance but it still feels like a new experience every time I sit down to view it. When James Cameron's "Aliens" was released I thought it was to "Alien" what "The Empire Strikes Back" was to "Star Wars." But my tastes have matured and I now find the first sequel to be a brainless action fest that is filled with stereotypes, cliches and really pathetic performances from most of the actors.

Aside from the fact that I saw "Aliens" first (hey, I was only 8 when the first "Alien" came out), this really resonates with how I felt the last time I watched "Aliens".  It used to be a solid A with me, now I'd give it a grade of B- or C+.  But I think Ridley's "Alien" will continue to be a favorite.
Or it turned out TaunTaun innards were acidic like those of a xenomorph. Poor Luke would be disolved over night.
Gabe Powers wrote: Which is pretty f**king ballsy.

Can you imagine if Luke and Han froze to death at the beginning of Empire?


Or were eaten by a Yeti.  Very Happy
Which is pretty f**king ballsy.

Can you imagine if Luke and Han froze to death at the beginning of Empire?
The main reason it fails as a sequel for me is that is renders everything Ripley fought and survived for in Aliens pointless within its opening credits.
/\ Perhaps much of the reason it was so maligned was because a great many at the time were expecting a rehash of Aliens.  I can understand the disappointment of action fans but I feel any instalment of a franchise has to take the source material in a new direction and I think Alien 3 does this admirably.
this is interesting. I think I kind of agree with both Aaron and Matt. Alien 3 is a s**t sequel to Aliens, but a great sequel to Alien. I think that makes part 4 the sequel to part 2 then (though, again, I'm a fan of both).
I also thought the different cut in the box set was alot better adding the depth to the film that it was missing...
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: If I were to compile a list of my favorite films, Ridley Scott's "Alien" would be close to the top. I don't want to dissect the film to demonstrate its brilliance but it still feels like a new experience every time I sit down to view it. When James Cameron's "Aliens" was released I thought it was to "Alien" what "The Empire Strikes Back" was to "Star Wars." But my tastes have matured and I now find the first sequel to be a brainless action fest that is filled with stereotypes, cliches and really pathetic performances from most of the actors. The most intelligent sequel in my opinion is "Alien 3." When I sat down to watch the Quadrilogy I was shocked by how much I now enjoy that film. I believe "Alien 3' is a more "cerebral" film and a more faithful sequel to the brilliant original.

Aaron you're killing me!!  LOL   Just kidding.
Aliens was a great movie for all intents and purposes, but I would have to agree with you that Alien 3 was the better sequel to Alien.  I still love Aliens, but I enjoy Alien 3 the most out of all the Alien movies.  Resurrection is at the bottom of the pile.  A terrible movie.  
If I were to compile a list of my favorite films, Ridley Scott's "Alien" would be close to the top. I don't want to dissect the film to demonstrate its brilliance but it still feels like a new experience every time I sit down to view it. When James Cameron's "Aliens" was released I thought it was to "Alien" what "The Empire Strikes Back" was to "Star Wars." But my tastes have matured and I now find the first sequel to be a brainless action fest that is filled with stereotypes, cliches and really pathetic performances from most of the actors. The most intelligent sequel in my opinion is "Alien 3." When I sat down to watch the Quadrilogy I was shocked by how much I now enjoy that film. I believe "Alien 3' is a more "cerebral" film and a more faithful sequel to the brilliant original.
Yeah, if I remember correctly from the commentary the crackling head was the only actual CGI used in the film, the rest was optical effects with a rod-puppet. I think the point is also made in the commentary that this was the last, bigger budget sci-fi movie to incorporate mostly optical effects work as it was released just under a year after an effects benchmark film ahead of it time, Terminator 2: Judgement Day.
They were actually mostly made up of superimposed rod-puppet animation, not CG. I think the only CG was the Alien's head cracking.
Bodhi wrote: Matt wrote: I've always had the opinion that it's a decent movie on its own, but terrible as a sequel to Alien and Aliens.

Agreed.


Agreed, again.  My only complaint was the CG effects.  The special effects of the alien running around the place, looked as if they were done back in the 80s.  All in all, I enjoyed the movie though.
I liked ALien 4 Alien 3 never! If I can't fall asleep I put on Alien 3 or Arliss
I am a fan of all 4, personally.
Aliens is overrated for a very good reason. It kicks bowel. (in a good way)
Aliens is overrated but Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection are extremely underrated film
Matt wrote: I've always had the opinion that it's a decent movie on its own, but terrible as a sequel to Alien and Aliens.

Agreed.
I've always had the opinion that it's a decent movie on its own, but terrible as a sequel to Alien and Aliens.
I wasn't a fan of the theatrical cut, but the extended edition completely alters the structure of the film into something resembling a decent movie. Just one of the reasons I love DVDs.
Alien 3
I recently bought the Alien Quadrilogy and remembered seeing Alien 3 a very long time ago and was quite eager to revisit it.  What happened next I was quite unprepared for.  I really really enjoyed it, particularly the extended cut.
Some ropey CGI aside I thought this was a tense and atmospheric horror flick with some excellent tense moments and some memorable performances from Madamme Weaver and Charles Dance.  For the life of me I don't know why the film has been so maligned for so many years.

Anyone agree with me?  If not, then what do you hate about the film?

I'd love to hear all of your opinions!