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Awful movies that were suppose to be good

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11th April 2007 2:22  #31

Rodrigo Giust Member Join Date: September 2004 Location: Uruguay Posts: 103 Send a message via MSN to Rodrigo Giust
Well, £ukasz is going to start insulting me now, but I recently saw the James Bond films with Sean Connery and although I enjoyed thunderball I thought that the rest were bad.

11th April 2007 2:30  #32

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Well isn't Kubrick notorious for destroying all unused
footage?

Rodrigo Giust wrote: Well, £ukasz is going to start insulting me now, but I recently saw the James Bond films with Sean Connery and although I enjoyed thunderball I thought that the rest were bad.

"From Russia With Love" is excellent, come on. "Goldfinger" is overrated, but still quite good. The rest... Not so much... Watch "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", that one is awesome.

11th April 2007 2:30  #33

£ukasz D Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 859 Send a message via Skype to £ukasz D
it's so sad u can't separate style-ctiric from personal-critic.

I have not sayed one time anything personal about Gabe or any other member here.

u like his style..ok...i don't so i say so.
u like his opinions..ok..i don't so pleas let me say so.

and pleas don't make me think the way u want...just like your country(USA) tryes to do.

11th April 2007 2:37  #34

Rodrigo Giust Member Join Date: September 2004 Location: Uruguay Posts: 103 Send a message via MSN to Rodrigo Giust
Quote: "From Russia With Love" is excellent, come on. "Goldfinger" is overrated, but still quite good. The rest... Not so much... Watch "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", that one is awesome.
Yes, I forgot about "From Russia..." I don´t think it was excellent but I did enjoyed it.
I agree with you on "Goldfinger", I said "What is so good about this?". "Dr. No" was awfully bad.
I did watch "On her majesty´s..." and I did like that one.

11th April 2007 2:40  #35

£ukasz D Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 859 Send a message via Skype to £ukasz D
Rodrigo Giust wrote: Quote: "From Russia With Love" is excellent, come on. "Goldfinger" is overrated, but still quite good. The rest... Not so much... Watch "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", that one is awesome.
Yes, I forgot about "From Russia..." I don´t think it was excellent but I did enjoyed it.
I agree with you on "Goldfinger", I said "What is so good about this?". "Dr. No" was awfully bad.
I did watch "On her majesty´s..." and I did like that one.

I think Goldfinger is one of the bether Bonds..but i agree it is probably most dark and sirious of all Bonds. As for Dr. No - i like it, although it's not the best of Connery's Bonds.
"On Her...." is very good...i wish Lazenby played Bond more than one time Happy

11th April 2007 2:53  #36

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,402 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Ah, here he is again. You do realize you're telling me to do exactly what I already told you to do, right? Did you read those things I posted a few lines back about not judging people based on their opinions? Did you forget that you called me 'low' and refered to my writing as 's**tty'? Was that a different £ukasz D that was telling me I was wrong to think the way I did, because it seems like this new £ukasz D is feeling a little defensive about his opinions about now.

I never, ever told you to think a certain way. I never told you your opinion was wrong. I asked you not to insult me, I called you out on a childish attitude. Stop trying to play a martyr, you aren't the one under attack. Or at least you weren't until you crossed the line and made it personal.

Are you going to answer my other question, or are you just going to ignore it and whine about my supposed attack on your freedom of thought? Nobody is telling you you have to like me or my opinion, or what I write, what I'm telling you is that we are grown-ups here having a discussion, and we don't have patients for people that can't stand judgements that don't gel with their own.

Oh, and try to remember not to play politics, if I remember correctly you're the one that said we should 'let them (the PLO and Israel) fight and kill each other to the last one-maybe this is the only way to peace in this region', and almost got banned for cracking a joke about an Iranian reader being a car bomber. You can't whine about the United States telling the world what to think after parroting their most right-wing rhetoric.

Wait, are you contraditing yourself again? Didn't you say: "and with Lazenby we've learned that any other non-british actor just don't work." My God man, make up your mind.

11th April 2007 3:22  #37

£ukasz D Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 859 Send a message via Skype to £ukasz D
u know what...i don't even bother talking to u...and to be honest i don't give a damn what u think...and belive me..u don't want me to tell u what i think about your country - but just check what almost Entire world thinks about it- u'll see.
And pleas...u throw at me that i sayed that abou POL and Israel....your country my friend tells us all every single day that force and war are the only solutions..and if we don't agree with it, it means we are against u.

and as for Lazenby..what i meant was that, although i liked him, he was bashed all over by most fans..so this is why non-english actor should not play Bond - to big risk.

11th April 2007 3:35  #38

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,402 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
You know, I probably have a lot more awful things to say about my country than you could ever know.

Yet I notice that the political stuff, the sure fire 'make me mad' stuff was the only part of my post you seem to have responded to. Is that because it's compleatly besides the point and you realize you don't have anything to add or say for yourself. You're so self centered that you think that all of Poland is behind you because some random American is calling you out for giving him a hard time.

So you try to tell me the same thing I told you, then you decide that this skirmish among two film fans actually has something to do with world politics? This has nothing to do with where either of us live, this has to do with you starting s**t after I, and all the other writers, administrators, editors, and readers have been nothing but patient with your consistantly rude persona. If broad, random politics is your only response than this conversation is over.

11th April 2007 5:37  #39

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,704 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
I was about to say something in the regard it is how you say it - for example you could always say "I thought that 'X' was blah blah blah" and leave it at that rather than say "You are an idiot because I think that....."

But now I fear I would waste my typing....

11th April 2007 8:55  #40

Ravenwood Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 230
I'd have to say Forrest Gump. I've never understod the appeal of this movie. There are some good performances but the story is awful. The main character just stumbles and bumbles through important places and events throughout the 60's. I also didn't see what he saw in his girlfriend character, can't remember the character or actress' name. I just recall her being a very unlikable character who treated him badly.

11th April 2007 14:13  #41

Stubby Member Join Date: December 2006 Location: United States Posts: 290
Royal Tannenbaums
Rebecca-Hitchcock
Brazil
Big Lebowski
English Patient
Seventh Seal

I wouldn't call these films awful, but I was extremely bored/ disappointed with these movies that appear on many people's all time greatest films lists

11th April 2007 14:51  #42

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
I could not understand "Jarhead" or "Walk The Line". I stopped watching halfway through both. Also, I was expecting better from "The Weather Man", since I'm a HUGE fan of Nicolas Cage. I'm sure there's more. Can't think of one right now.

11th April 2007 16:20  #43

Squeek81 Member Join Date: September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 150
Superman Returns
Lost in Translation

11th April 2007 18:19  #44

Gunsprout Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 171
Blimey, there are so many but most of the really overrated ones have already been mentioned so I'll add:

The Ring
The Exorcist

If they've already been mentioned then I apologise, I kind of glanced over a lot of stuff due to Gabe and £ukaszD's argument...

Oh, and in regards to LOTR - My god, if I go to hell it will consist of sitting through all of the extended editions of these films... although I appreciate that they are loved by many and have no problem what-so-ever with that (just so as I don't get shouted at or offend anyone... :0) )

11th April 2007 19:44  #45

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,402 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I agree on The Ring. I didn't really like the original either. Didn't scare me.

Stubby, did you ever see Rushmore or Life Aquatic? Pretty much the same thing as Royal Tannenbaums, but I'm curious as to if you just don't like Wes Anderson's style or if you just didn't like that particular flick.

I ended up watching Seventh Seal with the 'expert' commentary track, and it helped me to enjoy myself a bit more. I think Hour of the Wolf was a better Bergman flick, but I've still not seen Wild Strawberries or Virgin Spring.

11th April 2007 20:16  #46

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,085 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I've stayed out of the thread until now, but I think something needs to be said. Basically, £ukasz D, you have Gabe to thank for your continued presence on the site. I was going to ban you for insulting a contributor without any provocation, but he rose above it.

However, I'll make this clear once again: we don't tolerate personal attacks on our contributors. As Gabe said, none of us have problems with you disagreeing with our opinions, but we do have a big problem with you calling us idiots or s**tty writers. When it comes to the genres he's interested in, I doubt you'll find a more knowledgeable and passionate writer than Gabe, and he always gives it 100% even if he's not that interested in the film he's reviewing (such as all of the generic Asian horror stuff he gets stuck with).

You seem to be completely incapable of differentiating between Gabe's opinion and his ability to analyse any given film. You've offered no real explanation for your attack, and you brought politics into a discussion about movies for absolutely no reason whatsoever. As it stands, Gabe's a far better ambassador for the USA than you are for Poland, and the only s**tty thing around here is your attitude.

11th April 2007 20:27  #47

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
IMO, Rushmore was great, not the best movie I've ever seen, but it lived up to its hype. The Life Aquatic was the first Anderson film I saw, and it was probably the better film I checked out on DVD last year.

I will get blasted for this, but "Pulp Fiction". Not awful, but not the brilliant film everyone makes it out to be.

11th April 2007 20:27  #48

£ukasz D Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 859 Send a message via Skype to £ukasz D
sure Chris...asu wish (but if u read all the thread- u'll see that i have never called anyone here idiot or any other personal opinion. and as for politics...check who started....Happy

As for the subject - i don't like Fight Club at all...saw it 2 times...and realyw as dissapointed each time.

11th April 2007 21:00  #49

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,085 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
You posted this:

Quote: oo Gabe..u are starting to supprise me even more....and i thought u couldn't go any lower after some of your latest s****-reviews...but i see u can.

No provocation and no excuse. Don't try and back-track now, just take the warning and move on.

11th April 2007 21:15  #50

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,402 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Rushmore is one of my all time favs. In a weird way I actually kind of like other people not like it because that makes it mine Happy.

I'll agree profusely with Pulp Fiction. I think it's about 1/3 a good film, but the rest never did it for me. I'm a much bigger fan of Tarantino's visuals than his dialogue (I also don't really like Reservoir Dogs). I also think he's grown as a filmmaker, as Jackie Brown and Kill Bill are my favourites of his. Death Proof  was a small step down, but still pretty good.

11th April 2007 21:37  #51

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Gabe Powers wrote: Rushmore is one of my all time favs. In a weird way I actually kind of like other people not like it because that makes it mine Happy.

I'll agree profusely with Pulp Fiction. I think it's about 1/3 a good film, but the rest never did it for me. I'm a much bigger fan of Tarantino's visuals than his dialogue (I also don't really like Reservoir Dogs). I also think he's grown as a filmmaker, as Jackie Brown and Kill Bill are my favourites of his. Death Proof  was a small step down, but still pretty good.


Agreed about Rushmore, it's one of my faves too, I can really identify with Max (except for the whole I'm in love with my teacher thing). And to tell you the truth, none of my friends like any movie I like, so all my faves are special Tongue

My main problem with Pulp Fiction is that it was supposed to be witty... Ummm, ok... Them talking about Royales with cheese is wit? I get it, that's how people talk in real life, but still. I can appreciate his dialogue, because it reveals a lot about the characters as they say it. My friend and I agreed on this during Death Proof. But what I think it is is because people think it's "cool", and yes, it is cool, but that's it. So, it's hip to call it cool. The mid-nineties, gotta love 'em.

I plan on watching PF again, along with RD and JB (never saw those two before and a second viewing of DP coming very soon). I watched Kill Bill in one sitting. It was pretty good. But it felt more like a rip-off than homage. But a very good film. I don't really care about seeing an uncensored version, because I think the Crazy 88 sequence was better in black and white. Four Rooms was funny, I liked that one (The Man From Hollywood) as much as The Misbehavours (Rodriguez's contribution).

I didn't think Death Proof was that bad. Planet Terror was more fun and got to the point right away. Death Proof was slow, and yeah, the first third was pretty boring (dialogue again), but the second and third parts were awesome Spoiler with them beating the Hell out of him at the end the icing on the cake. It wouldn't have been had "THE END" had not just appeared when they started cheering. Although the chase scenes were awesome. And this batch of girls were likeable, so it was better and redeemed itself, otherwise I wouldn't have liked it at all.

11th April 2007 21:54  #52

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,402 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I actually thought Death Proof was better than Planet Terror, but not nearly as good as Kill Bill.

11th April 2007 21:56  #53

Stubby Member Join Date: December 2006 Location: United States Posts: 290
Gabe Powers wrote:  

Stubby, did you ever see Rushmore or Life Aquatic? Pretty much the same thing as Royal Tannenbaums, but I'm curious as to if you just don't like Wes Anderson's style or if you just didn't like that particular flick.

I ended up watching Seventh Seal with the 'expert' commentary track, and it helped me to enjoy myself a bit more. I think Hour of the Wolf was a better Bergman flick, but I've still not seen Wild Strawberries or Virgin Spring.


Have not checked out Rushmore as of yet and maybe I should based on some various comments on this board. Life Aquatic was not on my list too watch which probably had more to do with my feeling that Lost in Translation was over-hyped. So I'm not gonna write off Wes Anderson yet.
If I saw Seventh Seal 50 years ago I probably would have been blown away by it. Same as someone just now seeing 2001 :A Space Odyssey or Citizen Kane and not understanding what the fuss was all about. You would have no context to the innovations these films achieved after decades of other director's copying Welles, Bergman and Kubricks style. I recall fragrance commercials on TV that were a take-off to the Seventh Seal. I did enjoy Wid Strawberrys

11th April 2007 21:58  #54

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Gabe Powers wrote: I actually thought Death Proof was better than Planet Terror, but not nearly as good as Kill Bill.

Well no, Kill Bill is a much better movie. I laughed more with Planet Terror, it was more fun. When Death Proof started, it just died, then slowly came back to half of what it was, then bang! Back! Planet Terror is more of a spoof of the old films than it is one itself I found. Whereas Death Proof was one itself. And Death Proof is slowly growing on me.

11th April 2007 22:06  #55

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,402 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
That's exactly what I said Cheddar. Spoofs just don't last for me. I prefer satire and homage. But Planet Terror was still very funny.

I also agree with you Stubby, for the most part. Bergman is much more tolerable than Felinni to me. I've never seen a Felinni film I liked.

12th April 2007 0:33  #56

Jonathan Bennett Member Join Date: March 2005 Location: United States Posts: 600 Send a message via AIM to Jonathan Bennett Send a message via MSN to Jonathan Bennett Send a message via Yahoo to Jonathan Bennett Send a message via Google to Jonathan Bennett


Jonathan Bennett wrote: Grindhouse. Planet Terror and the fake trailers were pure genius, but Death Proof was mostly a complete bore(besides say, the last 25 minutes or so).
Maybe I went a little overboard. Grindhouse isn't an awful movie, but it's an incredibly overrated one.

12th April 2007 1:48  #57

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,704 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
Maybe we just have to wait for an extended edition of Grindhouse - aren't they thinking of releasing the movies in some countries as 2 seperate movies? To do this they must extend the running time.
Mind you, extending a movie certianly does not mean it is guarrenteed to be better...

12th April 2007 2:37  #58

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
They're apparently doing that for the North American DVDs as well... Stating that "Grindhouse" is the experience, PT and DP are the movies. Bullocks to that I say. Just wait and there'll be a deluxe set by X-Mas.

12th April 2007 11:15  #59

Jedi Learner Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 41
It's "2001: A Space Odysessy" for me. It just went on and on. It was so slow and the only thing keeping me awake was the visuals. :-p

12th April 2007 12:38  #60

goat boy Member Join Date: April 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 87
Perhaps it would have been better with jar jar in it.
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