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'Batman Returns' region 2 DVD missing commentary?!

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25th October 2005 16:07  #1

Matthew Mills Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 67
'Batman Returns' region 2 DVD missing commentary?!
Although I have not bought it yet, and definitely won't if this is true, I have heard from many people who bought the region 2 S.E. DVD of Batman Returns that the commentary is totally missing from disc 1!!!

I have heard that it may have something to do with it not being in sync with the rest of the film due to the cuts made by the BFFC. This is just ridiculous! How can Warner advertise it on the DVD when it isn't even there?!

I hope to God that Warner are going to sort this out quick!!!

Has anyone other region 2 buyer had this problem?

25th October 2005 20:57  #2

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
According to here, there is. Here is the link

25th October 2005 21:58  #3

Matthew Mills Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 67
Yes, but just because it was listed on the extras list doesn't mean it will necessarily be on the disc, don't you understand that?

Warner have totally screwed up. Screw you, Warner, you had better sort this crap out!

26th October 2005 10:01  #4

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
My copy will arive today so I'll find out if that's true.  I seriously doubt it!

26th October 2005 11:15  #5

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,104 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
It's hardly the first time Warner have fucked up a release. The Goonies springs to mind. They also did the same thing with the Matrix release (omitting the commentary because of BBFC cuts).

But seriously mate, calm down. You seem to be more obsessed with Batman than I am with Star Wars.

27th October 2005 8:59  #6

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
Hmm didn't recieve Batman Returns or Batman in the bost but did get Forever and Batman n Robin (commentaries all present and accounted for there).  Both films I used to loathe but these SEs have really made me reverse my stance.
Anyway Matt I'll post as soon as I know if its there or not.

A MATRIX COMMENTARY Chris? Is this on the Ultimatrix box set where its critics vs philosophers in debate or do you mean the original release?

27th October 2005 15:17  #7

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,104 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
The original UK R2 release of The Matrix didn't have the commentary or the isolated score because the BBFC made Warner cut it to get their 15 rating. It's now routinely shown uncut on TV, so what a load of bollocks that was.

27th October 2005 16:06  #8

Matthew Mills Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 67
Dan, I would really like to know what you find out, so please let me know, mate, thanks.

Chris, I am sorry if I seem angry, but please understand, I have been looking forward to the release of these DVDs for so long, that why should I not be angry?

By the way, did Warner actually sort out The Goonies DVD? As, if they did, hopefully they will sort this out too.

Has anyone experienced problems with their region 2 Batman Returns S.E. DVD?

28th October 2005 9:32  #9

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
OK Matt I'm good and annoyed now because my DVDs of the Burton films have STILL not arrived (perhaps been racalled I don't know).  This is killing me! Like you I've waited a long time for these DVDs!

28th October 2005 10:01  #10

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,104 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
They sorted The Goonies disc, but that was because they accidentally released the cut version instead of the new BBFC certificated uncut release.

Batman Returns is, as I understand it, still cut (similar to The Matrix), so they probably just couldn't be arsed to adapt the commentary. I've no idea how much is cut cause I'm not a fan of the film, but that would seem to be the logical explanation. Either way, their PR company has yet to get back to me.

28th October 2005 10:34  #11

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
In your experience Chris, do you expect them to recall the copies with the missing commentary.  As it is displayed as a feature on the packaging couldn't WB get into legal trouble.  false advertising and whatnot?

28th October 2005 14:01  #12

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,104 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
If it was advertised then yes, they are potentially opening themselves up for trouble. Basically they're misrepresenting the product, so people are well within their rights to get a refund.

Still, no one here has actually posted to say that it is definitely missing, and I'm not buying it just so I can find out.

1st November 2005 8:25  #13

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
I can confirm that it is DEFINATELY missing.  At whom do I vent my spleen?

1st November 2005 18:22  #14

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
Chris I would be forever in your debt if you contacted WBs PR company and asked them what was going on here.  WB surely can't display the director's commentary on the box (which it DOES) and then not supply it (which they HAVEN'T)

In the words of therapy? "I get the feeling I've been cheated"

1st November 2005 18:34  #15

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Quote: Originally posted by dan laurikietis
Chris I would be forever in your debt

Oh, that is so not where you want to be...Wink

2nd November 2005 2:03  #16

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
In Australia, if you buy a DVD that does not have the commentary that is listed on the back cover, you can take it back to the store for a refund as the product was not as described - a great consumer law....

2nd November 2005 8:03  #17

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
Well I got it over t'internet, however if the problem affects ALL region 2 discs in the UK then I run the risk of getting a dud replacement.  I wonder why Warners have not made an announcement on this?

2nd November 2005 13:47  #18

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,104 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Warner have made a backhanded announcement through their PR company. Basically they fucked up. It was omitted through an authoring error and it should never have been advertised. You are within your rights to return it as it's not as advertised.

2nd November 2005 14:37  #19

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
So does that mean the UK will *ever* get commentary??

bear in mind that I am at work now and will have no qualms with throwing my computer out of the window, getting a chartered flight to Los Angeles and throwing faecal matter at every administrative office of Warner bros/ time/ AOL/ The Bin Laden family, I'll go all the way up the chain!!!!

2nd November 2005 14:40  #20

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
Incidentally thanks very much in deed Chris for bowing to my petulant demands.  i really appreciate your investigating this!

2nd November 2005 23:47  #21

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
You can always order region 1 with the commentary.

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