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19th December 2006 4:40  #1

alex77014 Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 187 Send a message via Yahoo to alex77014
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how come some blu ray movies look not so high def?  I bought full metal jacket...and most of the movie looks pixilated...it felt like I was watching a home recorded vhs version of it that was 20yo.  my sony blu ray player came with the fifth element...and some of the special fx look cartoony.  but then I bought talladega nights...and that looked super crisp.  are older movies gonna look c**ppy like full metal jacket?  should I just buy the newer movies with limited special fx?  i'm really wanting to buy the terminator movies on blu ray...but i'm now worried that they're not gonna be up to par.  I have a panasonic plasma screen with the hdmi hook ups.

19th December 2006 5:00  #2

Mal Webmaster Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,290
If you can remember back to the early days of DVD, they rushed out a load of discs with poor transfers, with some of the smaller distributors even transferred directly from VHS! Several years later they reissued the titles and gave them special edition treatments because they had the budget, time and software in place.

At the moment the HD formats aren't mature enough for the distributors to appreciate what they can offer and levels of quality that they are expected to produce. The fact that there's a format war just makes this situation far worse as they have to rush every aspect. You are unfortunately paying to be a guinea pig in a big commercial experiment.

19th December 2006 12:37  #3

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,164
Compounding the problems, in addition to the one's Mal just mentioned are the fact that Warner have reformatted Full Metal Jacket from 1.33 to 16x9. This will have had the effect of blowing up the grain of the original film and losing picture info top and bottom. I was really disappointed to learn that Warner had done this and I hope they revert back to the directors preferred/intended ratio in the future. Just cos the guy passed away seems to have given Warners licence to muck with his films. Although, in the past, nothing happened to Kubrick films without the say so of his family so maybe someone in the family has agreed to this I don't know. I hope that isn't the case.

24th December 2006 18:35  #4

techman707 Member Join Date: December 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2
To add to the problem, in the last few years, many companies have been tranferring their films to HD masters even though they were only using them for SD DVDs, believing they would be "all set" when they needed an HD master for HD (or Blue-Ray) DVDs.

Part of the problem is that much of the equipment used to tranfer film has improved GREATLY in the last few years.  While Flying Spot Scanners are the best method and have been used for many years now, the latest Flying Spot Scanners keep the signal all digital, from pickup to disc.  Combined with their much increased overall picture quality, it tends to make the older transfers look like SD when compared to the latest ones.  In fact, the quality of the SD DVDs done on the latest equipment is so good, that when viewed on a 50" Plasma (like the latest Panasonic's), the picture quality looks "almost" as though it was HD.Wink

24th December 2006 21:07  #5

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,171 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Another problem is that the first Blu-ray titles are using the old MPEG2 codec, rather than the newer codecs like VC-1. I know Sony say that this isn't an an issue, but I have my doubts.

HD-DVD has basically pissed on Blu-ray so far. Serves Sony right for starting yet another format war in order to make more money from patents.

26th December 2006 20:52  #6

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,716 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
hey alex77014, maybe your plasma may have something to do with it - what is the resolution of the screen? Maybe it may have to be locked to a resolution rather than have it set on an auto setting...

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