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23rd July 2006 17:00  #1

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
DTS or DD?
Just curious.... how does every feel about these two? I personally can't tell enough difference between them to like one over the other.

Not trying to start any kind of technical debate here, just curious as to what everyone prefers and why.

23rd July 2006 17:37  #2

£ukasz D Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 859 Send a message via Skype to £ukasz D
u can value DTS track only if you have a realy good DVD Player and good Audio set....if not..than DD 5.1 is more than enough.

23rd July 2006 18:18  #3

dbeamish Contributor Join Date: August 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 511
I find DTS more involving. A great demo was a Se7en DVD from a while ago which had DTS and DD on it and allowed you to change sound tracks during the movie. There is a scene where Freeman and Pitt are in a car watching the road in the pissing rain. The sound difference in the whole scene via DTS over DD was amazing.

23rd July 2006 18:20  #4

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
I have to agree with £ukasz D, DTS is better but I don't care which one I use... whatever one is default.

23rd July 2006 19:13  #5

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,085 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
One is certainly louder... You can't do an accurate comparison unless you recalibrate any system on which you're listening to allow for the differences, and of course that has to be done in between switching tracks.

DTS just isn't worth all the fuss people make about it. Boycotting DVDs just because they don't have DTS... Most DTS tracks don't even use the full bitrate available to them either. I'm far from convinced of its superiority.

23rd July 2006 19:47  #6

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
People boycott DVDs because they don't have DTS? I imagine that'd be a mighty long list of DVDs they wouldn't buy.

23rd July 2006 20:07  #7

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,149
I actually think (with certain films/DVD's) just a pro logic surround track is more immersive and satisfying. Sometimes I find DD a little too 'discrete' to the point that you're hardly aware of the surrounds working at all. At least with some 2 channel pro logic mixes, the surrounds are active with more present ambient sounds, traffic, wind etc. Why that should be, I don't know. I just prefer hearing my surrounds in a more active way than just the occasional directional effect.

24th July 2006 0:56  #8

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,085 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Dustin wrote: People boycott DVDs because they don't have DTS? I imagine that'd be a mighty long list of DVDs they wouldn't buy.

Only today I read a user comment stating that they were boycotting a release because it didn't have DTS. Mental.

24th July 2006 11:17  #9

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
I do prefer DTS, I find that it is a bit better at localising certain sounds. I also believe it is a richer sound than the DD.

I always select DTS when confronted with the choice.

Although I would never not buy a DVD becuase it didn't have a DTS track - that's just pure dead mental by the way!

24th July 2006 13:37  #10

Ven Member Join Date: July 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1
If I have a choice, DTS is it. Otherwise DD is just fine.

24th July 2006 14:18  #11

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
£ukasz D wrote: u can value DTS track only if you have a realy good DVD Player and good Audio set....if not..than DD 5.1 is more than enough.

I'd say this is fairly inaccurate.  I have a high end audio system with expensive speakers and like Chris says about the only difference I can make out are the default volumes.  However, on DVDs that have only DTS at 1564/kbs or whatever it is, you can tell a bit of a difference due to the compression levels.

24th July 2006 14:40  #12

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
I've heard better DTS and I've heard better Dolby Digital. Potato - Po-Tat-o.

24th July 2006 21:35  #13

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,401 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Honestly, a good sound mix is a good sound mix. DTS is usually just louder to me, and on occasion more immersive, Anchor Bay's Suspiria release is a prime example.

24th July 2006 23:16  #14

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,704 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
I will boycott a release if it doesn't have DTS only if I already have it and the extras, film quality, etc has not improved. Just to boycott a DVD and then not have the film is pretty silly, if you get what I mean...
I have a good system and can certianly hear the difference on SOME tracks...

25th July 2006 20:00  #15

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Worst Nightmare wrote: I have a good system and can certianly hear the difference on SOME tracks...

The question I have had about this difference is it that DTS is inherently better than DD or is it that a different mastering process was used?  I really have no clue.  

There are a lot of movies that were not originally shown in DTS, so why would they be mastered on DVD that way?

25th July 2006 22:47  #16

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,149
If by mastering you mean the mixing stage, no there isn't a different process used. All the different tracks are mixed down to 6. Dolby then encodes it for theatrical 35mm prints as does DTS and SDDS.

As for movies now having DTS on them that didn't on their theatrical run, that's quite normal. Columbia for a time only had 35mm prints struck with SR (analogue) and SDDS (digital) tracks on them. No SRD (Dolby Digital). A stupid policy as only a very small percentage of cinemas have SDDS readers and processors. This meant that these prints were only ever heard in the vast majority of cases in analogue. But hey, this is Sony we're talking about so it should come as no surprise really.

Then, come the DVD release, these same films now have a Dolby Digital track. Magic isn't it?

Hope that answers the query and a bit extra.

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