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17th August 2007 15:31  #1

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,116 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
F**king remakes
Nothing is safe.

17th August 2007 16:52  #2

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Could be worse...

17th August 2007 17:03  #3

scottmck Contributor Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 393
More proof that either the studios are too scared to try something new or that the ideas have dried up in Hollywood.

17th August 2007 17:04  #4

GodOfWar Member Join Date: January 2007 Location: United States Posts: 9
yeah could be worse- but some remakes arent that bad- Charlie And The Chocolate Factory was fantastic and theres even more good remakes than bad Happy

17th August 2007 19:44  #5

Dave Brock Banned Join Date: November 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,237
Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: Could be worse...

Not by much!!!

Jesus!  This is not just a film that is so of it's time, but a film that does literally hold iconic status.  
There can be only f**king one you cheap jack, brain dead, souless f**king c**ts!  Leave it alone!!!

There should be preservation orders put on a whole host of films to stop this desecration.

Screw those that make it, and a filthy pox on anyone who goes near it when it's been vomited out of the Warner Bros c**t.

One good thing.. At least they've slightly changed the title.  THAT is important.
otherwise....blow me Warners!


*phew*
---takes pills---

17th August 2007 19:49  #6

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,116 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
GodOfWar wrote: yeah could be worse- but some remakes arent that bad- Charlie And The Chocolate Factory was fantastic and theres even more good remakes than bad Happy

I hope that was a joke. CatCF was s**t. I also challenge you to name ten remakes that are better than the originals. Bet yu can't do it off of the top of your head.

17th August 2007 20:04  #7

Stubby Member Join Date: December 2006 Location: United States Posts: 290
If I were king, I'd decree classic films as historical landmarks not to be tampered , re-vamped, colorized, CGIed etc.
Come up with your own ideas and stop feasting on the carcass of genius past

17th August 2007 20:16  #8

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Ben-Hur
The Ten Commandments
The Man Who Knew Too Much
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Lord of the Rings
The Bourne Identity
Casino Royale
The Departed
Narnia
And I also believe CatCF is better than the original.

Also, wasn't the '77 version of "Invasion/Body Snatchers" better than the original? (I don't know, I haven't seen it)

It's all opinion. You may not think these are better than the originals, but I do, and other people may.

I am against all remakes, but sometimes, they work (for some, not so much for others.)

17th August 2007 20:28  #9

agentofdoom Member Join Date: March 2007 Location: United States Posts: 56
Sometimes they work but most re-makes don't need to be made the technology kills it most of the time-i.e. Charlie and the chocolate fagtory,Kong.

17th August 2007 20:29  #10

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,116 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I take your point, but I dispute the fact that a number of those are remakes. Dracula, Narnia, Rings and CatCF are just different interpretations of works of literature. I was attempting to point out the fact that 'theres even more good remakes than bad' isn't quite the case.

17th August 2007 20:54  #11

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
You can say that about any remake though, it's another interpretation of the script (a la the hideous Psycho '98.) I forgot to include in my post that yeah, that statement is pretty farcical, I agree. There are only a handful of good remakes, whereas you could open a small video store with just the bad ones.

I also forgot to add "The Fly" to the list.

17th August 2007 22:16  #12

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,116 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Yes, but I was making a distinction between the two because they are different mediums. If someone writes a script and makes a film that is later remade, it's always going to be compared to the original film (and rightly so). However, if someone makes a film based on a book they aren't the original creators of the story, so any subsequent versions aren't remakes, they're interpretations. That's the way I look at it anyway, although I appreciate that I'm probably in the minority.

Red Dragon isn't a remake, it's a different interpretation of the Thomas Harris novel (and a more faithful one from what I'm told). It's still sucks compared to Manhunter though.

I can name a few, but not without giving it more than a few seconds thought. The Thing is perhaps one, although that's actually based on a short story, so that doesn't really qualify under my rules... A good one (although not better than the original) was the recent DotD. Does Scarface count?

17th August 2007 22:29  #13

Squeek81 Member Join Date: September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 150


Also, wasn't the '77 version of "Invasion/Body Snatchers" better than the original? (I don't know, I haven't seen it)


the '77 version while good does not event come close the original science fiction/horror classic

and lets not even bring up the The invasion starring Kidman coming out today in the states. Maybe in 20 years well have an actual invasion, the aliens will have seen the idea done so much!

17th August 2007 23:25  #14

Rodrigo Giust Member Join Date: September 2004 Location: Uruguay Posts: 103 Send a message via MSN to Rodrigo Giust
Well, I´ve got one, apparently Michael Bay´s production company is remaking "The Birds" with Naomi Watts on the leading role.

17th August 2007 23:47  #15

£ukasz D Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 859 Send a message via Skype to £ukasz D
seams like Hollywood is out of ideas on good films...but since money is top priority for them - no wonder they re-make great bnon-Amercian, or classic americna films.

18th August 2007 0:51  #16

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
I also forgot Scorsese's Cape Fear.

18th August 2007 1:56  #17

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,116 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Aye, I agree with that one, but the vast majority of them run the gamut from average to awful.

18th August 2007 11:36  #18

P O Hara Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 93
I agree with Chris.

I'm shuddering at the thought of what Mr. Zombie has done with the Halloween remake/re-imagining.

Dont get me wrong, his original works showed some great talent,but thats no excuse to b*****dise a classic.

Why oh why cant they just leave well enough alone?!



18th August 2007 12:04  #19

£ukasz D Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 859 Send a message via Skype to £ukasz D
same goes with Scorsese's "Infiltration"

18th August 2007 17:07  #20

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
£ukasz D wrote: same goes with Scorsese's "Infiltration"
Hmmm... 96 award nominations (50 of them winning) compared to a combined 63 (29 of them winning)... Yep, Scorsese really missed the boat there... Rolling Eyes

18th August 2007 21:13  #21

£ukasz D Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 859 Send a message via Skype to £ukasz D
anyone who watched Infernal Affairs, and is not  afan of star-packed, hollywood thrillers will tell u, that ORYGINAL "IA" is by far a bether movie.....

and what a suprise, that a high-budget, star-packed US made film got more nominations that Asian film.

19th August 2007 22:24  #22

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,116 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I love your sweeping generalisations. Way to speak on my behalf. For the record, I have seen both (once) and I remember the structure of IA being fairly messy. The Departed was a really solid adaptation of IA, but it wasn't a shot-for-shot, word-for-word remake. I was actually a little disappointed with IA after hearing how utterly amazing it was, in much the same way I was disappointed with Shiri.

20th August 2007 1:18  #23

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
£ukasz D wrote: anyone who watched Infernal Affairs, and is not  afan of star-packed, hollywood thrillers will tell u, that ORYGINAL "IA" is by far a bether movie.....
Hmmmm, I HAVE seen both (surprise!) and I thought that The Departed was great and as Chris said above, that Infernal Affairs was overrated (if I've mis-interpreted you there Chris, my apologies). And I guess Infernal Affairs didn't have a single Asian star in it then eh? Tony Leung and Andy Lau (among others) aren't stars?

Oh, and about not being a fan of star-studded Hollywood thrillers... http://www.dvdspot.com/list.php?member=SphinX&a...  You sure do seem to have a lot of them. So I guess by your own definition, you can't tell me that IA was a better movie.

Quote: and what a suprise, that a high-budget, star-packed US made film got more nominations that Asian film.
I bet if IA got more awards than The Departed, you'd be throwing that in everone's faces.

20th August 2007 2:05  #24

Dave Brock Banned Join Date: November 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,237
I'm with the guys!  I'm ahuge fan of HK cinema, have been since the 80's Nu wave hit.  Love Andy Lau too.
But "Infernal Affairs" as deadly dull and a real mess.  And at this time in their careers Andy lau, Tony Leung, Anthony Wong and Eric Tsang were very well known and mainly VERY big stars.  Lau especially due to his huge popularity as a singer as well.

"The Departed" was flawed (and it was too lightweight to be the film Marty won an Oscar for) but it was far more entertaining, exciting a satisfying than "IA".

But saying that...F**K any re-make of "Enter the Dragon".  I am fed up with people pissing on my beloved 70's cinema!!!!!

20th August 2007 3:03  #25

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Dave Brock wrote: I'm with the guys!  I'm ahuge fan of HK cinema, have been since the 80's Nu wave hit.  Love Andy Lau too.
But "Infernal Affairs" as deadly dull and a real mess.  And at this time in their careers Andy lau, Tony Leung, Anthony Wong and Eric Tsang were very well known and mainly VERY big stars.  Lau especially due to his huge popularity as a singer as well.

"The Departed" was flawed (and it was too lightweight to be the film Marty won an Oscar for) but it was far more entertaining, exciting a satisfying than "IA".

I agree, it's certainly not his best movie (although it does rank highly), and it shouldn't have been the one to get him an Oscar. However, I am glad that it finally did get him one (but I think it was more to reward him for his entire body of work than just "The Departed".)

Quote: But saying that...F**K any re-make of "Enter the Dragon".  I am fed up with people pissing on my beloved 70's cinema!!!!!
I've never seen it (not my cup of tea), but if it's making this many people angry, then it certainly cannot be a good thing (although most remakes aren't anyways...)

2nd September 2007 22:41  #26

Tigerclaw Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 493 Send a message via MSN to Tigerclaw
Michael Bay wants to remake Friday the 13th and The Birds...  WTF!?

2nd September 2007 23:30  #27

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,116 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Kill him. Kill him now.

2nd September 2007 23:33  #28

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
F**king remakes
Chris Gould wrote: Nothing is safe.I thought that was called Balls of Fury...

2nd September 2007 23:39  #29

goat boy Member Join Date: April 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 87
F**king remakes
Tony DeFrancisco wrote: Chris Gould wrote: Nothing is safe.I thought that was called Balls of Fury...
That is like so gay

3rd September 2007 5:54  #30

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
What is? Me, the movie, or the statement?
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