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10th March 2007 22:42  #1

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Fox's fancy "definitive" editions
Has anyone bought any of them?
I was looking at them in HMV today and most do have DTS (BOOYEAH!). So was wondering what the difference was between them and the special/ultimate editions previously released. (Except the drop dead gorgeous steelbook cases they come in.)

Is there a difference in picture quality?
Are there any more extras?  
Will Chris b***h about how <nerd voice> DTS isn't technically any better it's only louder and the 1.21 jigawatts needed to blah blah ?</nerd voice>

So yer are they better than the old versions or not?

11th March 2007 3:50  #2

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,120 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Hey, if you buy into it... Wink Oh, and I dunno. Fox never even made the artwork available for these.

Someone on another forum is claiming that the new version of Fight Club sounds much better than the old R1/R2 (and presumably other regions). This, he says, is because the old discs had audio errors and 'dropouts'. I never noticed any, and the audio-visual elements got universally favourable reviews when it came out, so I don't know how true it is. Not gonna buy it again to find out.

Just checked my old R1 of Fight Club and while the 2.0 Surround track is okay, the 5.1 track definitely has some audio dropouts. Not total silence, but the volume is messed up during Operation Latte Thunder (for example).

11th March 2007 12:15  #3

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Artwork is here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8...

and

http://www.fox.co.uk/dvd/mr_mrs_smith-11391/113...


Well annoyed. I bought the Rocky def edition just over a month ago now it's been re-re-re-re-re-released in the steelbook. Hrrrrrrrmpf

12th March 2007 6:30  #4

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
Hmmm...is this Fox's answer to superbit? Or is it just marketing gone bad?

12th March 2007 8:06  #5

demiscy Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 589
This is similar to Cinema Reserve, only I think that CR is much more superior..

12th March 2007 13:25  #6

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
I've just dug out my old Terminator SE and the discs have that misty look all over them (Coulnd't be arsed to phone up for replacements), though now they've gone crusty too! So will definetly be getting Terminator.

12th March 2007 14:33  #7

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
I love those DVD covers. Nice! Wonder if they will be released in Australia, since it's PAL, as well?

13th March 2007 11:06  #8

rebel-scum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,101
I picked up The Terminator. The audio/visual aspect of this disc is extremely good. Whether the entire range will be like this across the board is open for debate. I love the artwork on that League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, simple but effective.

13th March 2007 22:49  #9

Squeek81 Member Join Date: September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 150
Now thats the way you do DVD covers. I will be picking up the Kingdom of Heaven 4 disc. Haven't picked it up yet and this is the way to go!

27th March 2007 13:39  #10

merlinm Member Join Date: March 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2
Hiya, I was wondering if the US will get Kindom of Heaven Def Ed before the UK does. The video quality in KOH Director's Cut was lower than the other versions. I hope this Def Edition has better picture quality. If anyone is buying it, could you update on this? Cheers.

29th March 2007 23:40  #11

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
The US aren't getting steelbook definitve editions.

30th March 2007 8:55  #12

Disciple Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 766
As i'm a Ridley Scott fanatic i'll definitely be getting the Alien and Kingdom of Heaven DVDs. Will these have new extras etc.?

3rd April 2007 19:20  #13

darth raph Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 142
I am not impressed with this from Fox at all! This is all to do with them having got MGM recently. They seem to be releasing them in these steel packages. The problem I have is that apart from Fight Club there doesnt seem to be anything new on these new "definitive editions" from the old se's they brought out on Fox or MGM! Why cant we have "definitive editions" of stuff like Midnight Cowboy? Is this all a triple or quadruple dip?

3rd April 2007 20:54  #14

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Fight club isn't really any different. The run time is the same

3rd April 2007 21:42  #15

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,120 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
It's uncut, has a new transfer, fixes some audio glitches, and has more extras. Apart from that... Wink

3rd April 2007 23:59  #16

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Nic Mall wrote: The US aren't getting steelbook definitve editions.

I'm not totally sure, but I think FOX tried these versions over on this side of the pond before, minus the tins about 2 years ago with all of the older titles. Obviously it must have taken off in the UK if there are newer titles out now too.

merlinm wrote: Hiya, I was wondering if the US will get Kindom of Heaven Def Ed before the UK does. The video quality in KOH Director's Cut was lower than the other versions.

Wow thats surprising. The R1 version of the movie had one of the best standard def transfers I've ever seen.

4th April 2007 3:13  #17

maxpayne4664 Member Join Date: March 2007 Location: United States Posts: 52
I think the US is going to have the steelbook editions released soon. Search steelbook on DvdAf and you'll see the upcoming releases.

6th April 2007 3:02  #18

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Hmmm...dunno what I was thinking of then. Maybe I was just using my powers to see the future again...AGAIN!!!!

6th April 2007 4:59  #19

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Jonny "Me You" wrote: Hmmm...dunno what I was thinking of then. Maybe I was just using my powers to see the future again...AGAIN!!!!

Think hard, concentrate... How's the "Blade Runner" set?

Tongue

7th April 2007 4:13  #20

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Incredibly complete Wink

16th April 2007 18:00  #21

Gunsprout Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 171
I've got The Terminator and liked the presentation and I've since ordered Mr & Mrs Smith (2 disc directors cut) and Kingdom of Heaven (4 disc directors cut) for £8.99 each from HMV's website.

Bargain!!

6th May 2007 11:35  #22

darth raph Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 142
These "definitive editions" are sloppy at best! Apart from Fight Club and Mr and Mrs Smith there is nothing new on them! They are just transferring what was on the old editions on to these new "definitive editions"! Fox are so sloppy they have even transferred the "first look" at I Robot from the old se of Master and Commander on to the new steel book! There are no new special features on the classic titles like Great Escape! I am pretty sure that there are less special features on these that the old standard se's! I could be wrong though! The cinema reserve titles are excellent though! Midnight Cowboy coming in July. Now I hope Fox do the same with Grapes of Wrath, Gentleman's Agreement, How Green Is My Valley and Diary Of Anne Frank. I also hope Fox do the same with the vast MGM back catalogue as well.

6th May 2007 14:23  #23

Gunsprout Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 171
darth raph wrote: These "definitive editions" are sloppy at best! Apart from Fight Club and Mr and Mrs Smith there is nothing new on them!

Ah, but the prices that you can pick them up for ARE good! HMV are still selling the old vanilla Mr & Mrs Smith for £7.99 and the 4 disc Kingdom of Heaven set for £24.99. I got both of the definitive editions for £8.99 each in what is definitely superior packaging.

13th May 2007 12:52  #24

darth raph Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 142
Fox are releasing a steelbook of Robocop "20th Anniversary Edition" soon with both cuts of the film and all the special features of the Criterion and the R2 SE plus three new featurettes. The art ain't great! So I see no need to triple dip! It is a R1 release so I am not sure if it will be released on R2!

16th June 2007 4:15  #25

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
Now Region 4 has followed the U.K. with those Definitive Editions.

Here is a full list of titles slated for release on August 1st, courtesy of www.ezydvd.com.au
an example...http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/794142

Commando - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Conan The Barbarian - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Conan The Destroyer - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Daredevil - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Fight Club - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
From Hell - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Great Escape, The - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Minority Report - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Platoon - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Raging Bull - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Robocop - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Siege, The - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)
Stigmata - Definitive Edition (2 Disc Set)

26th June 2007 15:57  #26

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I have not but they look so cool

20th December 2007 5:59  #27

Andrewr05 Member Join Date: December 2007 Location: United States Posts: 172 Send a message via Yahoo to Andrewr05
As I stated in other threads, I need to get a damn Region-Free player, these releases are ridiculously cool...

 

23rd December 2007 19:15  #28

Moldovia Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 124
Nic Mall wrote: The US aren't getting steelbook definitve editions.

The U.S. does have steelbook editions. Happy

Edit : Sorry made a mistake, misread Nics quote! Do apologise. The U.S. Fight Club steelbook is a C.E.

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