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Halo: The Movie, What Are Studios Waiting For?

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29th September 2007 5:52  #1

Director7 Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 290
Halo: The Movie, What Are Studios Waiting For?
Keep in mind, these numbers don't include all time sales, so, Halo 2 since it's release has obviously seen ALOT more than that & who knows what number Halo 3 will end at.

Quote: "Video game Halo 3 earned more than $170 million in sales in its first 24 hours"

Quote: "Halo 2 reports $125 million in first-day sales"

Quote: "Halo: Combat Evolved" for Xbox Tops 1 Million Mark In Record Time"

With numbers like these what are they waiting for?! Over the years less deserving videogame to movie adaptations have come to fruition.

Imagine the hype over a Halo Movie, the lines, the nerds?

Would it be bigger than Star Wars was/is?

Why would such an obvious cash cow be post-poned?

29th September 2007 6:45  #2

Franchise Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 294 Send a message via AIM to Franchise Send a message via MSN to Franchise Send a message via Yahoo to Franchise
To me, there's a ton of hype about it and that's great.  I think video games are good distractions.  I wouldn't see the movie though.  I've read up about the games and just feel there isn't enough information in them to justify a movie.

29th September 2007 13:14  #3

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Name 1 game to movie conversion that has been good. And I mean good not "AWESOME MAN! YEAH THE ROCK TOTALLY KICKED ASS WOO YEAH!"

29th September 2007 13:50  #4

scottmck Contributor Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 393
The studios dropped out of making the movie because it would cost hundreds of millions of dollars.  Remember that each copy of Halo costs a hell of a lot more than a cinema ticket.

29th September 2007 15:19  #5

Franchise Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 294 Send a message via AIM to Franchise Send a message via MSN to Franchise Send a message via Yahoo to Franchise
Hmm?  I'm reaching here, but I think Resident Evil and Silent Hill were pretty good.

29th September 2007 16:19  #6

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
Nic Mall wrote: Name 1 game to movie conversion that has been good. And I mean good not "AWESOME MAN! YEAH THE ROCK TOTALLY KICKED ASS WOO YEAH!"...

Goddamnit, I was going to use that.

29th September 2007 17:43  #7

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,150
Franchise wrote: Hmm?  I'm reaching here, but I think Resident Evil and Silent Hill were pretty good.

You'll have to reach a little further I think. Res Evil was not good. It was loud, stupid and empty headed (like most PWSA films). Silent Hill can't comment on. Haven't seen.

Did I say most of PWSA's films. I meant 98.5%. The first half hour of Event Horizon did it's job but that's about it. The rest of his cinematic output is the sum total of the noise you get in your head if you humm and try to match frequency with a vacuum cleaner as it hoovers the carpet.

29th September 2007 19:57  #8

Director7 Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 290
scottmck wrote: The studios dropped out of making the movie because it would cost hundreds of millions of dollars.Isn't that what typical Blockbusters cost though?

scottmck wrote: Remember that each copy of Halo costs a hell of a lot more than a cinema ticket.True, but a videogame is 1 sale per family & you own it, think of it this way;

1 Copy of Halo = $60 = Whole family/friends playing, and you own it.

1 Ticket Halo Movie = $20 = 1 per family member/friends = x5 = $100 --- You'll have repeat viewers, the videogame audience and a new movie goer audience who never played the game.

So they'll make even more than $60 in just 1 household, and remember that it was FOX's involvement, so think double dips and collectors editions for the DVD/BluRay release.

They'd more then make their money back.


Franchise wrote: I've read up about the games and just feel there isn't enough information in them to justify a movie.I would've thought the appeal to the game IS the story. Few say it's the greatest FPS because of the controls or something. It's because of the bad-ass 1 man army Jack Bauer like charachter.


Nic Mall wrote: Name 1 game to movie conversion that has been good. And I mean goodGood point, before I typed back, I sat and thought, but, that can't be a reason not to make it.

The story would be a more than compelling movie, as long as they get a could Cast and Director to portray all that.

29th September 2007 22:07  #9

Tigerclaw Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 493 Send a message via MSN to Tigerclaw
Forget Halo, they should make Gears of War flick!

29th September 2007 22:12  #10

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,150
Your breakdown of the ticket sales while detailed isn't realistic. Not every member of a family is a video game nut so I wouldn't think you'd get the whole family taking a trip to the cinema. Neither would the resulting film reward multiple viewings based on past history regarding video game tie-in's.

Plus, and maybe I'm generalising here, your average video geek will more than likely wait for the DVD or dowload the film (legally or illegally) rather than venture out into the fresh air to go to a cinema. Chances are that a significant proportion of the intended audience will not pay a penny in ticket or DVD sales to the film company to recoup it's production costs.

But none of that is a reason not to make the film. When someone comes along and pitches their particular take on the movie to a studio and they can demonstrate that they can do it at a modest cost then Fox (or whoever) will probably green light it. I'm sure even tonk like Doom made it's money back so if it can be done cheaply then why not.

I don't know the game but every picture I see of it is a guy wearing a full face helmet. Honest query, does the helmet ever come off?

30th September 2007 4:23  #11

Director7 Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 290
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: Maybe I'm generalising here, your average video geek will more than likely wait for the DVD or dowload the film (legally or illegally) rather than venture out into the fresh air to go to a cinema.Unfortunately that's probably very true.

Intergalactic Ponce wrote: I don't know the game but every picture I see of it is a guy wearing a full face helmet. Honest query, does the helmet ever come off?Never does, I guess that's his "mystique".

30th September 2007 7:11  #12

scottmck Contributor Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 393
Director7 wrote: Intergalactic Ponce wrote: I don't know the game but every picture I see of it is a guy wearing a full face helmet. Honest query, does the helmet ever come off?Never does, I guess that's his "mystique".

That's another reason the studios are wary of sticking loads of money into a movie - no one will be able to see whoever gets to play him.  Either that or they get him to take his helmet off, Judge Dredd-style and we all know what that meant...

30th September 2007 7:30  #13

Disciple Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 760
Nic Mall wrote: Name 1 game to movie conversion that has been good. And I mean good not "AWESOME MAN! YEAH THE ROCK TOTALLY KICKED ASS WOO YEAH!"

Ehh...have you not seen Silent Hill!?

30th September 2007 9:08  #14

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,085 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
She said good.

30th September 2007 16:18  #15

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Indeed I did.
 And Silent Hill isn't. It's s**te.

30th September 2007 17:35  #16

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
scottmck wrote: That's another reason the studios are wary of sticking loads of money into a movie - no one will be able to see whoever gets to play him.  Either that or they get him to take his helmet off, Judge Dredd-style and we all know what that meant...
Worked for "V for Vendetta" though, didn't it? Hugo Weaving never took off the mask and it worked out. I don't know much about Halo, but it seems like it would just be a futuristic 300. Don't flame me for that statement, I honestly have no idea about the game or its characters, and am only giving my impression of it.

1st October 2007 9:52  #17

Disciple Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 760
Nic Mall wrote: Indeed I did.
 And Silent Hill isn't. It's s**te.


I take it you've never played the games then, cause it's a prefect representation of the the games in movie form. Complete with the atmosphere and all. I think a lot of people would agree with me on this. It's also definitely the highest rated game-to-movie adaptation so far. At least from what i've read.

Anyway, i respect your opinion of course, just find it a bit odd.

EDIT: I see now that not all critics liked this after having had a look over at rottentomatoes. However, it did get great reviews in Swedish press, where it was hailed as the best adaptation of a video game yet, i guess that's what i was referring to. Anyway, I loved it and would gladly see another Silent Hill film. But then again; i'm a sucker for sequels as you can see if you have a look at my DVD collection. Wink

Also, i don't think Doom was all that horrible. It wasn't great, but highly enjoyable.

1st October 2007 10:44  #18

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
I've briefly played the games and yeah it does have the same feel as the games.
But it just didn't make a good movie. The whole Sean Bean bit was tosh (not sure if he plays a part in the game or not)

Games don't have enough substance to make it sucessfully into a full lenght movie. Games' storylines work as games because the gameplay distracts from the whacking great holes in the story.


4th October 2007 14:51  #19

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Tigerclaw wrote: Forget Halo, they should make Gears of War flick!

Amen. Halo is fun and all, but the guys over at Bungie are c**p at telling a story. I wanna see how the war with in aliens in Gears got started.

4th October 2007 22:48  #20

GeoffC Member Join Date: November 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22
Cheddar J. Cheese wrote:
Worked for "V for Vendetta" though, didn't it? Hugo Weaving never took off the mask and it worked out.


Ah but Hugo's voice was enough to make that work, it somehow stands out.

One thing I have heard a lot from people that have played this game is they love the replay ability, which they say is just like watching a film... maybe there is a market for it.

6th October 2007 7:50  #21

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
GeoffC wrote: Cheddar J. Cheese wrote:
Worked for "V for Vendetta" though, didn't it? Hugo Weaving never took off the mask and it worked out.


Ah but Hugo's voice was enough to make that work, it somehow stands out.


So then tout simplement, they only need to get someone whose voice is enough to make the character of Master Chief work.

8th October 2007 8:22  #22

James Tully Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 436
V for Vendetta had other characters to hang the story on - wheras Halo would pretty much just have other people in masks and monsters. There is not much of a story to Halo - Guy shoots stuff.

I am a fan of the Halo games but would not see a Halo film. Just not interested at all. Agree with Nic that there has not yet been a good film made from a videogame. Its the interactive element of the story that makes games enjoyable, when you take that away and just watch a film made of game cut scenes - its pointless.

Silent hill was accurate but unfortunately a load of tosh.

12th October 2007 5:34  #23

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
This is about as close to a halo movie as we're going to get for now:

Arms Race

Combat: Part 1

Combat: Part 2

FYI, The combat shorts are supposed to take place just before the beginning of Halo 3

12th October 2007 6:45  #24

Director7 Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 290
Nice find.

See? Although it looks low budget, it's a damn good start.

I wonder what the movie budget would be? And, while I'm at it, what is the highest budget movie ever?

12th October 2007 7:26  #25

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
In adjusted dollars, I think it's Gone with the Wind... Not sure. But Spider-Man 3 was wasn't it? But it seems everytime some big blockbuster comes out it's "The most expensive movie ever made", so it's hard to tell. Although I'm sure the all-knowing Wikipedia would have the answer.

12th October 2007 10:54  #26

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
I thought Gone with the Wind had taken the most..

12th October 2007 20:05  #27

scottmck Contributor Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 393
Adjusted for inflation Cleopatra was the most expensive movie ever made, but I think Spider-Man 3 had the highest budget at the time of production.

14th October 2007 16:01  #28

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Director7 wrote: Nice find.

See? Although it looks low budget, it's a damn good start.

I wonder what the movie budget would be? And, while I'm at it, what is the highest budget movie ever?


The shorts were actually done by the guy who WOULD have directed the movie, which would have been a much higher budgeted version. Instead they had him make these and tie them into Halo 3 the game.

Far as I know, Spiderman 3 has the highest budget ever, while Titanic is still the king of sales with something like $1.8 Billion. Although if you adjust the money, Gone With The Wind is still the biggest of all time.

I bet that Halo would probably be about $300 Million to make. Although, most of the alien enemy, vehicles and environment could easily be cgi so I dunno where all the money would go. You wouldnt even need a big star to play master chief. I would just use a generic large guy like they did for Predator and use the guy who does the voice in the game to do it for the movie.

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