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28th June 2005 18:09  #1

Tom Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,497 Send a message via ICQ to Tom
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Who's seen the trailer then? Looks pretty cool! Still surprised they can't make dinosaurs look as good as ten years ago though in Jurassic Park!

28th June 2005 18:42  #2

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,487 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I thought they looked alright. I can't wait for the film itself. Word has it that the trailer will play in front of War Of The Worlds this weekend, and on that subject, I hear WOTW is actually a quite scary movie.

28th June 2005 19:24  #3

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
It looked about how I expected it to. I'm willing to give Peter Jackson the benefit of the doubt, but I must admit I was a bit disapointed in the trailer. Especially at the CGI animals, they looked really bad. Floaty at times too.

I'm blown away by the Jurassic Park question too Tom. The dinosaurs in that movie looked absolutely real and authentic. They originally got Phil Tippet to do a stop motion technique for CG using a robotic puppet. You'd think other effects houses would copy that. I find a lot of CGI characters are animated waaaaay too over the top. Maybe the animators spend too much time looking at the screen and keep adding when they don't have to?

28th June 2005 19:56  #4

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,487 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
IMHO, which I'm sure plenty of you will disagree with, the actual CG work on Jurassic Park was not any better than what we saw in the Kong trialer. I think people are just more aware of CG these days. An audience who knows too much about the creation of movie magic ultimately suffers because they are often unable suspend their disbelief. For example, the Hulk really looked as good as a giant CG green man ever could. The fact that it was general knowledge that he was created through CG coupled with the fact that he was bright green, not to mention apparently most of the movie going public was not impressed with his story enough to care, led to complaints about the CG itself. I think that when taken out of context, like in a trailer, special effects loose their ablility to appear realistic.

However, it did appear to me that in a few of those shots the T-rex was incomplete and missing some of the textures found in other shots. I'm guessing they aren't done yet.

28th June 2005 22:51  #5

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I think Gabriel is right.  People are more aware these days with CGI than 10 years ago.  CGI came a long way, for exemple Spawn vs Spider-Man.  I saw the trailer (King Kong) and I think it's going to be as, if not more interesting than Jurassic Park.  I can understand the comparaison, both takes place on a island and have dinosaurs.
War of the World and King Kong are a MUST on the BIG screen.

29th June 2005 9:42  #6

Tom Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,497 Send a message via ICQ to Tom
I disagree Gabe Wink I think if you compare the two, you'll see I'm speaking the truth...hehe

29th June 2005 13:48  #7

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
It's not as if I'm working on a memory of Jurassic Park. I have the DVD to compare the visuals with. The movements and textures of the CGI dino's are more realistic then anything else I've seen.

Sometimes Bad CGI is just bad CGI.

29th June 2005 15:17  #8

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
Let's hope that when they actually release the movie that they polish the CGI off and blend it in better - you would expect a bit more from the workshop that created the Lord of the Rings...

6th July 2005 3:57  #9

E. Costigan Senior Member Join Date: January 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,026
King Kong looks like a huge hit this December. Jack Black finally learns how to act (well he did in School of Rock but now he looks awesome). Also Naomi Watts should be hot in this one too, from the looks of it. Love the trailer.

8th July 2005 9:13  #10

John Oaks Senior Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 951
The trailer looks promising but I'm having a hard time taking Jack Black seriously. Everytime he was on screen, it looked like he was about to crack a joke.

8th July 2005 17:03  #11

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
Reminds me of Bill Pullman - I saw him in a few comedies then I saw "Serpent and the Rainbow" and couldn't take him seriously...

11th July 2005 3:14  #12

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
This trailer played in front of the fantastic 4. I dunno what this indicates, but it actually got boo'd by the audience. Actually, when they got to the part where the dinosaurs start running around it got laughed it, then by the time the titles came up it got boo'd. Shocked

On the bright side, the effects looked a smidge better in 24fps and projected. Laugh

11th July 2005 7:25  #13

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,487 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
They booed it? And I thought clapping at the end of a film was lame.

11th July 2005 19:55  #14

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Yeah it was boo'd. The trailer for Sky High was boo'd too. For everything else there was no reaction.

11th July 2005 20:37  #15

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,487 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Wow, who knew Canadians were such jerks?

Wink

11th July 2005 21:52  #16

Ryan Bisram Member Join Date: September 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 186
Yeah we boo'd Sky High too.

11th July 2005 23:47  #17

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,487 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Dammit, I think Sky High looks like a decent kids flick. If I was 12 I'd be all over it. Tongue

12th July 2005 0:04  #18

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Quote: Originally posted by Gabriel Powers
Dammit, I think Sky High looks like a decent kids flick. If I was 12 I'd be all over it. Tongue


I don't think kids these days appreciate the ability of special effect in movies than when you where younger*.

*  I'm assuming that you old enough to remember seeing Jaws or Star Wars Episode IV in theatres Happy

12th July 2005 1:25  #19

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,487 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
After working with kids for 4 years, which included plenty of movie watching, I'd have to say that untill they hit about 11 or 12 they don't even notice special effects, they just like it or are bored by it.

12th July 2005 1:25  #20

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Quote: Originally posted by Gabriel Powers
Wow, who knew Canadians were such jerks?

Wink


You should see us during hockey season. Wink

That whole stereotype about us being so nice and polite is fairly BS Very Happy

12th July 2005 2:41  #21

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            Go Leafs Go!

12th July 2005 20:01  #22

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Woooooooooooooooo!

Leafs Baby! Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!

18th July 2005 23:00  #23

iTone Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 41
I thought the trailer looked like a video game.

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