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30th April 2005 0:41  #1

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Macrovision Illegal?
Here's something I figured would have made it up here a few days ago. Apparently France has ruled that Macrovision on DVD's, that scrambled VCR's from making quality analog copies of DVD content - is ILLEGAL.

Some guy wanted to copy something from a DVD he owned and wasnt able to. So he sued and won.

Now the specific title of Mulholland Drive will be pulled from the shelves until the Macrovision is removed and every other title that has it will be allowed to stay, but any restock or new issue title will have to NOT have it included.

Funny stuff huh?

Check it out!

2nd May 2005 21:59  #2

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,487 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
However, it is now officially legal to edit and resell copyright protected films on DVD here in the US. This is truly a sign of the downfall of modern society. The way I see it, pretty soon art will have no meaning in the first world.

2nd May 2005 23:45  #3

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
If you think that's bad, television, radio and other broadcast content has been screened here in Canada for as long as I can remember. If someone wants access to a foreign program (most usually a US channel but it could just as easily be Italian or British or whatever), you have to make sure it has "canadian content" first - whatever that means.

That's just plain retarded. It's akin to book burning. I should be able to have direct and immediate access to any reasonable uncensored content in a free society. Books thankfully havent been filtered yet, but I wouldn't put it past our crazy government. They probably would have screened the internet if it were possible.

At least with the editing films thing its a personal choice and not forced upon you Wink

3rd May 2005 0:18  #4

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,487 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Yeah, but TV's always been pretty sanitised for us north Americaners. I saw an interview with Cronenberg from the 80's in which he was complaining about Canadian film censorship, but I'm under the impression that the ratings system was more akin to the MPAA than the BBFC these days.

3rd May 2005 0:31  #5

Stefano Agostini Member Join Date: June 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 116
Another shot below the belt to the film industy. I wouldn't be suprised if all the theater and studio's just shut down in the next 20 years. Same thing goes for the music industy here in Canada if the government doesn't stop allowing music downloading. In my opinion both music or movie download/copying should be Illegal and i myself have personly stoped downloading music.

3rd May 2005 15:02  #6

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Quote: Originally posted by Gabriel Powers
Yeah, but TV's always been pretty sanitised for us north Americaners.


Well, I am just kinda dumping films into media in general. Although I'm not talking about the core content necessarily. In Canada after 9pm you can get anything to a shootout to all out softcore porn on TV. It's the mere choice of what you want to watch. For example I'm forbidden from watching ESPN because there is a canadian channel that shows sports. Which sucks cause other then hockey they arent good at it. To reverse things imagine that Canada is the where the superbowl is broadcast. You get the canadian station CBC to watch it. You also get ABC. ABC is showing the game so because of that no matter whether or not you turn on ABC or CBC you're forced to watch the american commercials, the american broadcaster who doesnt know what he's talking about etc... It would suck wouldnt it? You're not against the broadcast on ABC, just that you're forced to watch it and not the real thing. Or if I want to watch the BBC I can't do that either unless its BBC Canada...blah. That's what I mean about being forced. If I want to get a movie channel then a great deal of that channel will be canadian movies or shows, etc... I'm not anti-canadian by any means, but I can't stand not having a free and clear choice.

Which brings be back to the film editing thing. At least you still have one.

It hasnt creeped its way into theatrical movies yet. For that I guess I should be glad. Although it's ridiculous it's something I have to worry about.

Quote:

I'm under the impression that the ratings system was more akin to the MPAA than the BBFC these days.


Ummmmm......not really. The country has a ratings system, plus each individual province has its own ratings system. A movie that has violence would get an 18A while a movie with lots of sex would get a 14A. Sometimes theres a difference between national and provincial ratings.

Its all very confusing.Confused

Everyone I know just goes by the MPAA rating and doesnt pay attention to the Canadian one.

3rd May 2005 15:13  #7

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Quote: Originally posted by Gabriel Powers
Yeah, but TV's always been pretty sanitised for us north Americaners. I saw an interview with Cronenberg from the 80's in which he was complaining about Canadian film censorship, but I'm under the impression that the ratings system was more akin to the MPAA than the BBFC these days.

That wouldn't be the same stuff that is included on the Criterion Videodrome would it, Gabe? I found the commentary and some of the extra material on that disc to be a real education in Canadian versus American filmmaking and law.

3rd May 2005 18:35  #8

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,487 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Good eye Matt!

Quote: Everyone I know just goes by the MPAA rating and doesnt pay attention to the Canadian one.

Me You, I was actually going to ask about this. I read Rue Morgue every month and I rarely see Canadian ratings in the Ads, just the MPAA's. I find ratings systems in different countries fascinating for some reason.

I find myself confused by TV standards here in the states these days. Some of the gore they get away with on the X-Files shocks me, but then all nudity is censored, unless ofcourse it's the nudity of someone from a "underdeveloped' country on a documentary.

I still remeber watching Last of the Dogmen with my parents and having my dad ask me to avert my eyes during a nude scene involving the white woman. My mom corrected him saying, "What, he's allowed to see naked brown bodies, but not naked white ones?"

Wow, talk about digressing. Sorry.

3rd May 2005 20:55  #9

rob murray Member Join Date: November 2004 Location: United States Posts: 477
Yeah exactly, think of them getting away with all the racist stuff they did with All In The Family nowadays

3rd May 2005 21:14  #10

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Quote: Originally posted by rob murray
Yeah exactly, think of them getting away with all the racist stuff they did with All In The Family nowadays

All In The Family was a very controversial show when it was originally aired, and it would get the same reaction if aired today...and they would still get away with it. There have been far worse and more controversial shows on television since, such as South Park for instance...which incidentally Norman Lear also had a hand in during its seventh season.

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