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11th July 2006 14:08  #1

Stephen Etherton Member Join Date: October 2003 Location: United States Posts: 706
new Superman Returns DVD
If you have a grain of salt to spare...

I did not know if I should copy/paste it, but I found this info on another site.  Check out this link for some interesting information:
http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthrea...

11th July 2006 17:18  #2

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
To be honest, I kinda expected that, but I did think they'd be released at the same time.

If this is true...

11th July 2006 17:23  #3

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
We should expect the extended edition in the 14-disc box set later this year.  If not, it'd be a massive rip-off to those wiling to plunk down the big bucks for the set.

11th July 2006 18:13  #4

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Dustin wrote: We should expect the extended edition in the 14-disc box set later this year.  If not, it'd be a massive rip-off to those wiling to plunk down the big bucks for the set.

If you read down that thread someone else claims Superman Returns will not be part of the 14 disc set in any form.

11th July 2006 18:15  #5

Trap Door Member Join Date: January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 250
I remember in an Interview Singer had mentioned extra footage that "might" be released in future. Hope this report is right.

11th July 2006 18:32  #6

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/684/684789p2.html

I've heard from IGN and several other sources that Returns WILL be in the set, even if Supergirl, as mentioned above in the IGN article won't).  I'd tend to believe more reliable sources over message boards... and I doubt that 14 discs will only be four films, the toons, and a documentary.  Those numbers just don't add up for me, even with director's cuts.

11th July 2006 23:35  #7

Tigerclaw Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 493 Send a message via MSN to Tigerclaw
My 2 cents...
Smallville is better than Superman Returns!
(even though, one is a sitcom and the other is a movie)

11th July 2006 23:44  #8

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
Speaking of Superman shows, I picked up the first season of the ol'e George Reeves show today at Wal-Mart for $14.  That's five-discs... what a steal!

Hope it's good... don't remember much of it.  Smallville was good for it's first two and a half-ish seasons... then I had to abandon it...

12th July 2006 0:41  #9

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Hey "Superman Returns" cost a fortune.  So a double dip with an "extended edition cut" is not hard to belive.  

12th July 2006 15:57  #10

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Well, considering they spent something like $150 million on aborted versions of Superman, it is not hard to believe they are going to try and milk as much as they can from the film that was made.

12th July 2006 17:03  #11

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
I almost feel bad for them.... Returns isn't bringing in enough box office to pay for all the trouble WB went to.  I think putting it so close to Pirates 2 was a dumb move.

12th July 2006 18:34  #12

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Dustin wrote: I almost feel bad for them.... Returns isn't bringing in enough box office to pay for all the trouble WB went to.  I think putting it so close to Pirates 2 was a dumb move.

We'll it would be close to something anyway.  And the 4th of July Holiday was a natural for this type of movie.  The problem is all the false starts they had to begin with.

13th July 2006 16:03  #13

stuart bannerman Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 139
with the money the merchandise and tie-ins will make. plus the DVD revenue and television showings.
no way will this film make a loss or just break even.
Itll make a mint for the studio and restart a money making franchise

13th July 2006 16:34  #14

Mr.Badass Banned Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 539
I've NEVER been a Superman fan, I will see the film tomorrow when it comes out but i'm not really excited about it because Batman was always better

13th July 2006 17:00  #15

Stephen Etherton Member Join Date: October 2003 Location: United States Posts: 706
I just want it to make enough to a sequel (or two).  Happy

13th July 2006 17:20  #16

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
Stuart, the film was just shy of $150 million dollars just during pre-production that took place over the last decade.  Director's and writers were paid for the work they either never did or didn't get chosen.  Just the film itself was around $260 million dollarsso already we're at over $400 million dollars...

As of last weekend, the film had made $141 million dollars, and will go on to make more naturally as it opens around the world... but even Warner has said that the film didn't meet their expectations for box office take.

Some day it'll make a profit, but it's not nearly the marketing cash cow that Begins (even though Begins had a slow box office crawl as well, it made a profit before leaving theaters) was or the 90's Batman flicks.  When you plunk so much down for a film like this, you don't want to just break even... you want to turn a massive profit for your efforts and Warner is a ways away from doing that.  Heck, X-Men 3 made more money opening weekend than Supes did.

This next bit is going to say it all: Superman took home $52 million opening weekend.  X3 took a whopping $107 million.  That just shows where the interest is in theaters.

I wish Warner Brothers luck when the film hits DVD, because they're going to need some good marketing schemes to get a decent profit out of this.

13th July 2006 17:48  #17

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Dustin wrote: This next bit is going to say it all: Superman took home $52 million opening weekend.  X3 took a whopping $107 million.  That just shows where the interest is in theaters.

This is a bit of a specious argument since Superman opened on a Tuesday.  By the week, lots of people had already seen Superman.  Superman's box office from Tuesday-Friday was over $56 million.

13th July 2006 18:43  #18

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
From Tuesday to Tuesday, Superman's one week take was $110 including Imax which is only three million more than X3 made in it's first weekEND.  Heck, X3 on it's opening day made 41% of Supermans one week total.  THAT is a lackluster opening for big blue.

13th July 2006 19:01  #19

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Dustin wrote: From Tuesday to Tuesday, Superman's one week take was $110 including Imax which is only three million more than X3 made in it's first weekEND.  Heck, X3 on it's opening day made 41% of Supermans one week total.  THAT is a lackluster opening for big blue.

It's still comparing Apples to Oranges.  At least in the US because you have to figure in the 4th of July and that whole week is more like a weekend.  If Superman had opened on a weekend, I think the numbers would have been similar.

13th July 2006 23:32  #20

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I think the movie was good but it doesn't seem to have the WOW factor.  I hope there is a sequel.  If there is I bet it will be shorter and have more action.  Bring on the 3 Super-villians.

13th July 2006 23:57  #21

Jersey Jedi Member Join Date: August 2004 Location: United States Posts: 714
Also, everyone has to remember that this was a "Requel" to a series that died out almost 20 years ago. X-men, on the other hand, has been steadily gaining momentum since 2000. Also, X-Men has seen an increase in gross for each subsequent installment. I'd predict that when part 2 comes along, Supes will penetrate much more than the first time around.

Maybe...

14th July 2006 1:51  #22

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
For the record, I'm not debating why Supes is going slower than a speeding bullet in generating a profit... just that he is going slow.

Happy

Another way to look at it is that Superman has been a loved icon for over seventy years while X-Men haven't had the same popularity in their much shorter existence in our culture and Supes should've beat the mutants at the box office.... but I agree with this and Jersey Jedi's points, as they both hold water.

14th July 2006 5:12  #23

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
stanton heck wrote: I think the movie was good but it doesn't seem to have the WOW factor.  I hope there is a sequel.  If there is I bet it will be shorter and have more action.  Bring on the 3 Super-villians.

"Returns" was a sequel, General Zod, Ursa, and Non were defeated in "Superman II"(left powerless, fell down a chasm in the Fortress, if they're still alive, they'd still be down there.) It better not be shorter and have more character development.

14th July 2006 5:12  #24

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
stanton heck wrote: I think the movie was good but it doesn't seem to have the WOW factor.  I hope there is a sequel.  If there is I bet it will be shorter and have more action.  Bring on the 3 Super-villians.

"Returns" was a sequel, General Zod, Ursa, and Non were defeated in "Superman II"(left powerless, fell down a chasm in the Fortress, if they're still alive, they'd still be down there.) It better not be shorter and better have tonnes more character development.

14th July 2006 7:22  #25

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,113 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Is anyone actually gonna comment on whether the film is any good, rather than going on about how much money it has made/will make?

People seem obsessed with how much money films make nowadays, as if it's a measure of worth or something. We all know it's down to release dates and marketing as much as the quality of the film. Loads of people went to see the Star Wars prequels because they were hyped to death off of the back of the originals, but they were all hugely disappointing from an artistic point of view. X3 made a ton of money, but it's not a good film when compared to the others in the series.

With Superman I'm less concerned with how much it makes and any potential sequels than I am with it being a decent movie.

14th July 2006 8:26  #26

Ravenwood Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 230
Superman Returns is a better movie and has a greater character developement than X3 does. I found myself more emotionally involved with Lois & Superman, than anyone in the X-men movies but X3 was a lot more fun. I think SR was hurt by that and from being released too soon after X3.

14th July 2006 8:35  #27

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
With all due respect, Chris...

Why do people keep asking why other people discuss the things they do on these boards as if they're wrong for discussing it? (Sort of like what I'm doing now.)  Someone complained the other day about people discussing good/bad cover art and another instance someone didn't like that I and a few others were comparing super hero films.  I don't think anyone here said that how much movie a movie made was the test of it's greatness, but I enjoy looking at these massive blockbusters from an investment point of view... I'm sure a few others do as well... C'mon now, did this thread really fall into the bad taste category?

We've already discussed the quality of the film, that's in another thread called 'Superman Returns', I believe.

My two cents is if you don't like the topic of a thread, don't read it unless you have to, and in that case, you don't have to comment.  I'd like to think the internet is the kind of place where you can discuss just about anything, including but not limited to 'What kind of toilet paper did they use for 2nd Unit on Superman Returns?'.  Think they saved the 2ply good stuff for 1st unit, or was everyone taken care of nicely?  And secondly, what kind of hand soap was in the bathrooms on set?

14th July 2006 11:23  #28

Jersey Jedi Member Join Date: August 2004 Location: United States Posts: 714
Dustin wrote: what kind of hand soap was in the bathrooms on set?

Dial.


Very smooth.

14th July 2006 16:33  #29

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Chris Gould wrote: Is anyone actually gonna comment on whether the film is any good, rather than going on about how much money it has made/will make?

I really enjoyed the movie (except the super-stalk part!)  The only complaints that I have heard from some people is that it is a bit slow in the beginning and is quite long for a superhero movie.  Neither of these bothered me very much.

15th July 2006 4:21  #30

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
SR was a good movie not a great but a good movie
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