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15th July 2006 5:42  #31

David Blackwell Senior Member Join Date: February 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,608 Send a message via MSN to David Blackwell
I want to see the movie, but going back to the budget costs.  The biggest movie to turn the most profit based on budget to gross so far is The Da Vinci Code.  It cost $125 million and brought in $700 million plus worldwide so far.

15th July 2006 13:04  #32

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
WB spent 60M on Developing a SUperman Movie before 1 frame of Superman Returns was shot.  That 60m was also added to the cost of SR.  To be fair SR production cost is not a high as we think.

15th July 2006 15:50  #33

Dustin Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 553 Send a message via AIM to Dustin
Yeah I've actually been looking for more reliable places to back up the numbers I provided other than internet message boards and the IMDB.

16th July 2006 2:41  #34

Franchise Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 294 Send a message via AIM to Franchise Send a message via MSN to Franchise Send a message via Yahoo to Franchise
Yeah.  IMDB has Halloween Retribution being the sequel we'll see instead of Rob Zombie's Halloween.  It's good for some things, but on others, it's not quite reliable.

16th July 2006 13:47  #35

Trap Door Member Join Date: January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 250
Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: stanton heck wrote: I think the movie was good but it doesn't seem to have the WOW factor.  I hope there is a sequel.  If there is I bet it will be shorter and have more action.  Bring on the 3 Super-villians.

There was a rumor that Jude Law would play a powerless Zod imprisioned in returns.

I think Returns was cut for 2hrs 45mins to 2hrs 25 minutes so I imagine we would get at least 15 minutes new footage of Superman searching Krypton.
"Returns" was a sequel, General Zod, Ursa, and Non were defeated in "Superman II"(left powerless, fell down a chasm in the Fortress, if they're still alive, they'd still be down there.) It better not be shorter and better have tonnes more character development.

17th July 2006 14:27  #36

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
stanton heck wrote: WB spent 60M on Developing a SUperman Movie before 1 frame of Superman Returns was shot.  That 60m was also added to the cost of SR.  To be fair SR production cost is not a high as we think.

According to Entertainment Weekly, that cost is much higher than $60 million.  There were at least 3 false starts in which at least the director and sometimes the star were in play or pay deals, so they got their money regardless of whether the movie was made.

18th July 2006 13:13  #37

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,104 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Dustin wrote: With all due respect, Chris...

Why do people keep asking why other people discuss the things they do on these boards as if they're wrong for discussing it? (Sort of like what I'm doing now.)  Someone complained the other day about people discussing good/bad cover art and another instance someone didn't like that I and a few others were comparing super hero films.  I don't think anyone here said that how much movie a movie made was the test of it's greatness, but I enjoy looking at these massive blockbusters from an investment point of view... I'm sure a few others do as well... C'mon now, did this thread really fall into the bad taste category?


Did I say people couldn't discuss it? I was asking a question: is anyone going to comment on the film, rather than the box office takings? It seems that 'no' is the answer to that question (Adrian aside).

Personally I thought it was very enjoyable, although time will tell if that's because it evoked memories of the original, or because it was a good film in its own right.

18th July 2006 14:30  #38

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Chris Gould wrote: Personally I thought it was very enjoyable, although time will tell if that's because it evoked memories of the original, or because it was a good film in its own right.

This is a very good though here.  With people like us (and I'll just assume Chris is somewhere around my age), and even with most critics, there is a sense of nostalgia about this movie.  Routh even looks a bit like Christopher Reeve which helps with the nostalgia.  However, if you look at the revenue, it is doing pretty healthy.  Since the box office is mostly driven by teenagers, I doubt that they have the same sense of nostalgia, if they have even seen the Superman movies from the 70s/80s.  That must mean that it was also an enjoyable movie absent memories evoked of the older movies.

18th July 2006 15:38  #39

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Just saw SR yesterday and my first impressions are that it is merely okay. I should point out that I was expecting a lot from it though.

I appreciated the fact that it took it's time with the characters (as this paid dividends later on towards the end of the film) but it felt as if scenes were still missing. I wanted to see more of Superman's voyage to Krypton for instance. I felt the 'fighting random acts of crime' montage was lacking but can't put a finger on why and agree totally with a couple of reviews that bemoan the screen time given to Jimmy Olsen.

As for the actors I can't really fault them. Yes they are slightly too young for the time frame but I can gloss over that one. I would say that Brandon Routh needs to further distance the characters of Clark and Superman as Christopher Reeve did with his various mannerisms and body language.

Mucic wise I couldn't find much to latch onto with John Ottmans score. The only memorable pieces were the John William reprises. They still have the power to raise goose bumps and make the hairs on your arms stand on end.

My last query of the film would be 'where has the lightness of touch gone. Where's the fun?' Granted Bryan Singer didn't have to slavishly regurgitate the Donner formula (as good as that was) but as he did, why didn't the he find the space within the running time for some character based humour. It was all a bit grim. Maybe this tone was inherant with this particular story and perhaps a sequel could find room for a lighter tone. Not Superman 3 light. Just frisk it up a little.

So, that said, technically, it's a superior film to Seperman: The Movie and part 2 but it falls short in the overall entertainment category. Superman 1 and 2 still reign supreme.

As for the future of this franchise I hope Jude Law does sign on as Zod and that (like part 2) the sequel to Returns will be more energetic.

18th July 2006 18:31  #40

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: My last query of the film would be 'where has the lightness of touch gone. Where's the fun?'

I thought the SuperStalker scene was pretty funny myself.

18th July 2006 19:15  #41

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Refresh my memory. What was the SuperStalker scene?

18th July 2006 20:05  #42

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Rumor has it that Superman Returns is coming to DVD in Region 1
on 11/14/06

18th July 2006 20:23  #43

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: Refresh my memory. What was the SuperStalker scene?

Just in case, I'll use the spoiler tag:

Spoiler After Supes learns that Lois has a kid and a boyfriend, Superman flies to her house and "discretely" observes them from the outside.  To me it just seemed like he was stalking a girl he couldn't have.  

18th July 2006 20:35  #44

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Ahh yes. HilariousHappy

22nd July 2006 17:13  #45

Trap Door Member Join Date: January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 250
Singer said at Comic con that the DVD will NOT include the Krypton sequence, no extended cut and it will not be a deleted scene. It will be however released in IMAX later with the footage so you can bet your dollar that we will see an extended cut on DVD sometime in 2007 and beyond.
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