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John Oaks wrote:
But that still wouldn't be portable as in just whipping it out of your pocket for a quick gameplay session. You would have to sit it down on a desk or something because of its size.


The PSP isn't that small.  We aren't talking like putting a laser disc into these things!  The difference between a UMD and DVD is probably around 2" in diameter.  (I've never seen a UMD, so I am basically assuming they are in the form factor of the old japanese 3" cds.)  That is just not much bigger.

The current PSP is 6.7 x 2.9.  DVDs are around 4.5", so you would only have to make it 6.7 x 4.7.  That's just about an inch an a half higher.  How does that make it less portable?
Adrian wrote: rob murray wrote: Adrian wrote: Never understood UMD.  Why not use DVD and make the PSP slightly larger?

a because it wouldnt exactly be "portable"

b because if you made it larger the screen would need to get larger and it would consume more battery time.


Huh?  Neither of your reasons make any sense at all.  There are already portable DVD players and they are not so large as to be clunky.  I had the original Panasonic L50 with a 5" screen that is actually smaller than the PSP in most dimensions.  Just because you put a bigger base on one, doesn't mean the screen has to get bigger either.


But that still wouldn't be portable as in just whipping it out of your pocket for a quick gameplay session. You would have to sit it down on a desk or something because of its size.
One more thing...

The price of UMD movies is a joke.  They're sold for the same RRP as DVDs and in many cases you can get hold of the DVD copies much cheaper.  For me, that's the nail in the coffin for UMD as a movie distribution format.  If I'm going to fork out about £15 for a new release DVD, I'm not going to do the same just so I can watch it on the PSP.  No sirree, I'll rip it from the DVD I just bought thank you very much.  I can't imagine there's many people out there with movies in their collection where UMD is the only format they've got.

I read somwhere about some studios bringing out DVD/UMD packages which cost about $2 more.  Sounds like a good idea but it might be too late.

If the studios were to sell the movies in MP4 format online to allow you to download them onto your memory stick for $5-10 a pop and watch them on the PSP that way, I reckon a lot more people might be interested...
Mal wrote: They are lacking a value-added feature for UMD's video products to compete with the not-so-closed DVD format.

To me, it looks like Sony have learned from this with Blu-ray, they've realised that they need other manufacturers to make sure a format is popular. If they had played it correctly from the beginning, they would have produced a UMD-lite format for video and let other portable device manufacturers use it. This would have made UMD an unofficial portable DVD format and far more appealing to consumers.


Well, the other thing they should have done is sold a UMD burner with software to compress DVD movies down to the UMD format.  They would make a lot more money off of cheap, blank UMDs than they ever would off of selling premade UMDs.
Mal
scottmck wrote: The main problem is that without selling movies and games in large quantities, Sony will lose money on the format and it'll die pretty quickly which would be a shame because it's a great little format.
They are lacking a value-added feature for UMD's video products to compete with the not-so-closed DVD format.

To me, it looks like Sony have learned from this with Blu-ray, they've realised that they need other manufacturers to make sure a format is popular. If they had played it correctly from the beginning, they would have produced a UMD-lite format for video and let other portable device manufacturers use it. This would have made UMD an unofficial portable DVD format and far more appealing to consumers.
rob murray wrote: Adrian wrote: Never understood UMD.  Why not use DVD and make the PSP slightly larger?

a because it wouldnt exactly be "portable"

b because if you made it larger the screen would need to get larger and it would consume more battery time.


Huh?  Neither of your reasons make any sense at all.  There are already portable DVD players and they are not so large as to be clunky.  I had the original Panasonic L50 with a 5" screen that is actually smaller than the PSP in most dimensions.  Just because you put a bigger base on one, doesn't mean the screen has to get bigger either.
Mal wrote: Adrian wrote: Never understood UMD.  Why not use DVD and make the PSP slightly larger?
Reason they used UMD is control. It's such a closed format that even though UMD's encyption system was broken last year, there's no physical way to create your own discs. It's the modern equivalent of games console cartridges.


It's strange that there's so much control around UMDs when the PSPs were built for piracy (no doubt unintentionally) by adding in the memory stick slots.  I've got myself a 2GB memory stick and I've ripped 5 DVDs onto it in PSP format to keep me going on the plane when I go off on holiday (I own all the DVDs already by the way).  If you check out all the PSP stuff on eBay, about 10% is probably legit and the rest is ripped movies and games.

The main problem is that without selling movies and games in large quantities, Sony will lose money on the format and it'll die pretty quickly which would be a shame because it's a great little format.
Adrian wrote: Never understood UMD.  Why not use DVD and make the PSP slightly larger?

a because it wouldnt exactly be "portable"

b because if you made it larger the screen would need to get larger and it would consume more battery time.
Mal
Adrian wrote: Never understood UMD.  Why not use DVD and make the PSP slightly larger?
Reason they used UMD is control. It's such a closed format that even though UMD's encyption system was broken last year, there's no physical way to create your own discs. It's the modern equivalent of games console cartridges.
MGR
Adrian wrote: Never understood UMD.  Why not use DVD and make the PSP slightly larger?

That would have been sweet....
Never understood UMD.  Why not use DVD and make the PSP slightly larger?
Mal
UMDs are doing well? The sales are terrible, even though Sony won't really admit.
PSP?
I was just wondering with the talk about a format war how these discs continue to sell.  I mean wouldn't the majority of people buy dvds (portable dvd players), yet still the psp discs continue to sell, I'm baffled.  So, when looking at Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD why couldn't they co-exist.  Look at it as people who own PS3s be using the blueray discs and the majority of in home devices being HD-DVD.  I mean if psp discs can exist well now, I'm sure blu-ray will be able to do the same against HD-DVD but in greater quantities making a more even playing field.