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6th June 2007 8:10  #1

demiscy Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 589
Question about the "Gladiator" OOP 2-Discer
I can see on the dvd beaver page comparing the two releases (one in R1 and the other in R2) that even though they both include English DTS 6.1 ES, the R1 has a "discrete" DTS and the other one (R2) has a "matrix" DTS sound.

Does anyone know and wants to tell me what is the difference?
I already have a 6.1 capable home-theatre system at home.

6th June 2007 11:04  #2

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,123 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Discrete means that it has a dedicated sixth channel, whereas matrix means that the sixth channel is extrapolated from the read surround channels. Dolby Digital 5.1 EX is a matrix '6.1' system (i.e. it's not true 6.1), whereas DTS can be either matrix or discrete (but it is usually written as 6.1 regardless).

Technically, anyone referring to Dolby Digital 6.1 EX is wrong, because it isn't six discrete channels of audio (think along the lines of Pro-Logic). DTS is more of a grey area, it should be 5.1 for matrix and 6.1 for discrete, but the distinction is hardly ever made.

6th June 2007 12:33  #3

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Neerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd!

6th June 2007 15:11  #4

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,123 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I do edit a DVD website you know. Girls of your age with an unhealthy interest in G1 Transformers and Superman: The Movie shouldn't be so quick to cast the first 'nerd' stone Kiss

6th June 2007 15:56  #5

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Chris Gould wrote: I do edit a DVD website you know. Girls of your age with an unhealthy interest in G1 Transformers and Superman: The Movie shouldn't be so quick to cast the first 'nerd' stone Kiss
Oh snap! I just don't think there's a comeback for that one...

6th June 2007 23:47  #6

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Chris Gould wrote: I do edit a DVD website you know. Girls of your age with an unhealthy interest in G1 Transformers and Superman: The Movie shouldn't be so quick to cast the first 'nerd' stone Kiss

You go Girlfriend!  lol

7th June 2007 16:13  #7

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
Chris Gould wrote: I do edit a DVD website you know. Girls of your age with an unhealthy interest in G1 Transformers and Superman: The Movie shouldn't be so quick to cast the first 'nerd' stone KissWow. Gotta sit back and see how this one turns out... Wink

7th June 2007 17:01  #8

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
Can I say I'm glad that question was asked. I like learning more about Home Theatre and those little things you don't notice when you're operating your Home Theatre system. Sadly, I don't have a 6.1 or 7.1 receiver. I am happy with my 5.1 though. Maybe someday when I have my own place, I'll definitely have a dedicated room, big enough, and soundproof for a 6.1 or above system.

9th June 2007 20:04  #9

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
Mark Lim wrote: Can I say I'm glad that question was asked. I like learning more about Home Theatre and those little things you don't notice when you're operating your Home Theatre system. Sadly, I don't have a 6.1 or 7.1 receiver. I am happy with my 5.1 though. Maybe someday when I have my own place, I'll definitely have a dedicated room, big enough, and soundproof for a 6.1 or above system. We must talk soon Mark, when you are ready I will talk to my contacts and see if we can get you something good....

9th June 2007 23:54  #10

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
that's a shame - i've noticed most of my 6.1 dvds are matrixed (according to dvdprofiler) I thought I was getting the good stuff too - mind you doesn't sound too shabby Happy

26th June 2007 16:04  #11

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Don't worry about missing out on any dvd that may have had extras on it and now no longer does. Its only a matter of time that those extras get re-issued again

27th June 2007 8:28  #12

demiscy Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 589
I bought the 2-disc OOP dvd R2 with the matrix DTS-ES sound along with the making-of huuuuge book for £10 off eBay!

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