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Sick of HD/Blue Ray already

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30th March 2006 20:56  #1

Danny Storr Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 161
Sick of HD/Blue Ray already
Am I the only one that is already sick to death of people going on about blue ray ,HD the formats are only in there infancy and only 1 if any will survive ,personally I don`t think either will suceed ..There is not a big enough leap forward in terms of quality to offer the consumer value for money ..
Besides by that time LEGAL downloads of new release via the internet should be available ..

By the way a Question..
Will HD/DVD players be backwards compatible (Like Sony`s Playstation) so I won`t have to get rid of my precious DVD collection???  

30th March 2006 21:10  #2

Mal Webmaster Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,290
Should be backward compatible, HD DVD uses the same sort of laser, just at a different angle and is more precise.

Blu-ray uses a different technology, so hopefully their players will have both a DVD and BD laser, but apparently it's not a requirement in the BD specification.

31st March 2006 0:43  #3

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I don't know what format will win but I don't think these will take off as fast as DVD did

31st March 2006 6:25  #4

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
I believe its in the hardware specs of both formats to require players to be backwards compatible with DVD.

Besides, it would be suicide not to be.

31st March 2006 12:53  #5

Danny Storr Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 161
So its sit tight for now and continuing to buy DVD`s and none of this waiting for **** to be released on HD/Blue Ray

31st March 2006 21:10  #6

Brian O. Member Join Date: October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 92
If HD-DVD is still around after 5 years, then I might buy 'em, until then I'll stick with the regular DVD...

31st March 2006 21:21  #7

Mal Webmaster Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,290
There's actually a chance both HD DVD and Blu-ray will be superseded by holographic discs several years down the line, they quote capacities in excess of 1TB... whether or not they'll come up with a reason to move on again is another thing but I'm sure the computer world will accept them. More info here - page 2 for holographic formats.

31st March 2006 21:55  #8

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Brian O. wrote: If HD-DVD is still around after 5 years, then I might buy 'em, until then I'll stick with the regular DVD...
Well, it did take DVD about 5-6 years from its release in the U.S. to overtake VHS as the predominant format and the prices of players to drop to a point where virtually anyone could afford one.

Clearly there will be a new format for movies in the future, and my guess is that the next format will be one of these two, but only one will survive and once it's obvious which format will carry on I'll dive in.

I've always considered myself an early adopter of new technologies and I'm exactly the type of person that these companies are banking the initial success of their format on, but with as many films as I purchase it would be a considerable loss if I were to have a collection of obsolete discs and an expensive, obsolete player 12-18 months after I purchased said player. I know that there are many like me out there that feel the same way--I'm all for bigger and better, but I don't want to have to gamble my money away either. You always bet on a winner, and no winner will be clear right out of the gate.

31st March 2006 22:13  #9

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Matt,

I'm with you mostly.  I'm usually an early adopter.  I got my first DVD player in 1999 (which was the Panasonic LD50--the only portable player available at the time, at least that I knew of).  However, I'm waiting to see how the format shakes out because you know that both of them cannot survive.  It's a shame that unification talks were useless.  

The other problem is that HD/BlueRay is not the quantum leap over DVD as DVD was over VHS.  Yes, it will look better, but how much better?  It's not like going from P&S/2 channel stereo VHS to widescreen, 5.1 audion on DVD.

1st April 2006 3:43  #10

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Mal wrote: There's actually a chance both HD DVD and Blu-ray will be superseded by holographic discs several years down the line, they quote capacities in excess of 1TB... whether or not they'll come up with a reason to move on again is another thing but I'm sure the computer world will accept them. More info here - page 2 for holographic formats.

I read about that a while back too. I think if it's reliable and recordable, its a certainty that it will happen. God knows what they'll fill a whole terrabyte disc with though, let alone multiple ones.

1st April 2006 4:20  #11

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Mal wrote: There's actually a chance both HD DVD and Blu-ray will be superseded by holographic discs several years down the line, they quote capacities in excess of 1TB... whether or not they'll come up with a reason to move on again is another thing but I'm sure the computer world will accept them. More info here - page 2 for holographic formats.

Holographic discs have exist for a few years, but have not been proven outside of clean labs, at least as far as I have known.  They repute something like 20 layers for the disc.

1st April 2006 6:14  #12

Keith Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 221
Feels like the new game console every year.

1st April 2006 10:06  #13

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Well, I've said it before....  I just don't see enough of an advantage to make the switch.

2nd April 2006 23:13  #14

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
Just wait - I'm sure one of the manufacturers will produce a player that supports all 3 formats....

4th April 2006 20:14  #15

eegah! Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 4
I haven't really kept up with the whole HD situation. The only thing I know is there are two formats, players will retail probably around $1000, and that the players will be DVD compatable. What I sort of understand (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that certain studios will only release movies on Blue-Ray and certain studios will only release on HD-DVD. So, if that's true, then consumers will have to purchase two players if they want to watch all the movies they like in the new formats. Also, it seems that (again, correct me if I'm wrong) people will have to purchase a High-Def TV.

So, assuming that both formats survive (which I really believe that HD-DVD will be the only one to survive this) I would have to spend thousands of dollars on two players and a new TV. Lovely.

4th April 2006 21:30  #16

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
From what I understand you will still be able to play HD-DVDs or Blu-Ray discs on a standard television, but there's little point in upgrading from DVD if you have a display that isn't capable of the higher end features found in current DVDs and players.

4th April 2006 22:01  #17

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Is that true Matt?  I thought the only connector on the HD or Blue Ray players was going to be HDMI which would not be compatible with a non HD (or even early adopted HD TVs).

Also, Toshiba has already announced a low end HD DVD player at $499 which really isn't that bad.

4th April 2006 22:09  #18

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,107 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I don't think the only connector is HDMI, just that you need to use that if you want the full (true) HD resolution. There's some talk of the resolution being compromised unless you use HDMI to HDMI, which sucks. Basically the greedy, controlling studios are setting HD up for failure. I don't know many people who are exciting about the prospect of having to upgrade all of their expensive hardware just for the extra resolution.

That difference alone isn't enough to convince me. VHS to DVD brought not only enhanced resolution, but also multiple audio/video tracks, a ton of trick play features, bonus material as standard and no more chewed up tapes! SD to HD doesn't offer anything like that.

4th April 2006 22:13  #19

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
That's pretty ridiculous.  DVI is capable of doing the content protection and the DVI on my TV is current with the HDMI connector.  I've never quite understood HDMI as it is DVI with audio.  I would think in most setups, people want the audio going one place and the video going another.

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