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17th August 2006 2:45  #1

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
Some movies not the same watching at home
The other day, I bought the new R1 'Poisedon" DVD. I watched the film again. It gave me a different feeling of awe and excitement when the waves crashed the cruise ship. It needs to be seen on a bigger screen like the one I saw in the cinema. And I know that's not going to happen.

How about any of you guys? Have you had this kind of feeling where it's not the same watching a movie on DVD compared to your experience at the cinema?

17th August 2006 3:35  #2

Tommy Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 110
Yes I have... its usually when its a horror movie for me because on big screen it grabs you more!

17th August 2006 10:17  #3

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
Ohhhhhh yeah - I think any film is better in the cinema as there are less distractions - plus the sound/screen makes a tremendous difference.

17th August 2006 10:22  #4

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,126 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Eh? I'd have said there were more distractions at home, unless you have a brass band playing in your living room. I agree about the screen size/sound though, although that's very much dependant on the cinema concerned.

17th August 2006 16:17  #5

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
I think Mark has hit on why theaters will never actually go away.  Some things just need to be seen on the big screen.  No matter how good the home technology gets, we will never have 70 foot screens in our living rooms.

The thing I like about DVD though is that the print is always pristine.  I see too many films late in their release cycle and the films usually look like s**t.  Thankfully, we have a few DLPs here.  I wish all movies were shown digitally.  No more degrading of the prints.

22nd August 2006 15:49  #6

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
I came across an advertisement in the latest issue of Home Entertainment and Design magazine from the U.S., and I found out what could make watching movies at home just like the cinema - a projector that delivers a wider picture than your conventional home theatre projector.

Here you go...

It's the Runco Cinewide Projector, and it takes away the black bars!! More info here...

http://www.runco.com/cinewide.html

Now that's what we should be getting!

22nd August 2006 16:24  #7

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
The biggest difference I find when I'm watching at home is the frame rate. At the movies it's at 24 fps, but at home is about 30fps here in North America. That takes a lot of the exaggerated size and movement of the image out of it.

Then of course I don't have a projected screen about 50 feet across.


Chris Gould wrote: Eh? I'd have said there were more distractions at home, unless you have a brass band playing in your living room.

You mean you don't? Confused

22nd August 2006 16:27  #8

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Mark Lim wrote: I came across an advertisement in the latest issue of Home Entertainment and Design magazine from the U.S., and I found out what could make watching movies at home just like the cinema - a projector that delivers a wider picture than your conventional home theatre projector.

Here you go...

It's the Runco Cinewide Projector, and it takes away the black bars!! More info here...

http://www.runco.com/cinewide.html

Now that's what we should be getting!


The last time I checked, that projector was a cool quarter mil aka $250,000 - so if you get one, buy me one too Very Happy

22nd August 2006 18:14  #9

hossein Member Join Date: December 2005 Location: Iran, Islamic Republic of Posts: 104
battle for middle-earth in return of the king cost to buy a Cinema !!

22nd August 2006 18:17  #10

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Kozinski wrote: Ohhhhhh yeah - I think any film is better in the cinema as there are less distractions - plus the sound/screen makes a tremendous difference.

So many variables in that statement. Yes your eyes and ears are more singularly focused in the cinema but you have to factor in the noise and irritant factor from the tools who you find yourself sharing air with in the same auditorium. They can just as easily provide more distraction than anything you might care to think of in the home.

Yes a (good) cinema will always beat out the home experience as long as the audience is quiet (when it's appropriate) and/or joins in (a comedy for instance) when it's supposed to. If either of these two things don't happen, (noisy, disruptive audience or a not in the right mood for comedy audience) then the modern muliplex can be the worst place in the world for you to have your first opinion forming viewing of a film. You've really got to choose where and when you visit the cinema wisely.

If you can't ensure a decent sound and visual presentation (or a decent audience for that matter) home viewing is the most consistant option. You control the picture and sound and you can pick the company you choose to watch the film with in the first place. Unless it's family in which case forget the whole enterprise. No one ends up enjoying the 'democratic family selection of a film'. As with most democtratic decisions it more often than not results in you all watching something that nobody wants to watch and has seen a hundred times before. I digress.

As a busy working Dad of two I tend to only make the trek to the cinema to see event pictures. The rest have to be on DVD sadly.

But back to the thread, I would have to say that over the years films like Titanic, T2, Jurassic Park, ID4 and The Matrix would not have had the same impact had I seen them first on my meagre 29"er (Oo-er Matron).

Comedies as well. Being in the projection business I've seen good audience reaction and bad. Sometimes it can be quite puzzling why one audience laughs at things while another doesn't. Some audiences 'get' subtle stuff, some don't.

I've sat in on screenings of films like Sidways and Lost in Translation where it was deadly silent for the last house yet hugely raucous for the 6 o'clock show preceeding it. You just never can tell what (and how) an audience might bring to a screening or what that might do contribute to your overall lasting impression of it.

You can walk away from a print rehearsal (the room all to yourself) of a comedy without once raising a smile yet watch it with the right audience and you'd believe it was a different (funny) film. Conversely, you can be in the same situation and be laughing at things that tickle your personal funny bone, Big Lebowski springs to mind, and find that when 300 people are watching it non of them get it. I actually witnessed that. A group of people walked out and I overheard them saying 'I don't know what people are laughing at'. It took the reviews to come out in print to let people know the film was in fact one of the funniest in recent times and it was okay to laugh.

It just goes to show, whether you watch a film at home or at the cinema, the choice of venue can be argued both ways and the end results can be positive or negative. In an ideal world (one with quiet and/or appreciative audiences the cinema would win hands down every time. Unfortunately, yada yada yada. You know the rest.

22nd August 2006 22:53  #11

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: Kozinski wrote: Ohhhhhh yeah - I think any film is better in the cinema as there are less distractions - plus the sound/screen makes a tremendous difference.

So many variables in that statement. Yes your eyes and ears are more singularly focused in the cinema but you have to factor in the noise and irritant factor from the tools who you find yourself sharing air with in the same auditorium. They can just as easily provide more distraction than anything you might care to think of in the home.


Tis why I practically always go at 10/11am Happy

23rd August 2006 0:08  #12

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,126 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Jonny "Me You" wrote: The biggest difference I find when I'm watching at home is the frame rate. At the movies it's at 24 fps, but at home is about 30fps here in North America. That takes a lot of the exaggerated size and movement of the image out of it.

Then of course I don't have a projected screen about 50 feet across.


Chris Gould wrote: Eh? I'd have said there were more distractions at home, unless you have a brass band playing in your living room.

You mean you don't? Confused


No, I meant less, in a fine example of how not to change what you're typing mid flow and hit submit without reading it back.

23rd August 2006 4:13  #13

Bob "the film man" Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United States Posts: 258
A couple of instances I noticed the visual fx not being as good were king kong and Episode III when I watched them on my 55". There generally aren't very many in the theater when I go, unless it is a huge film (aka Sith, Dead Man's Chest). There have actually been a couple of times when I have been in an auditorium by myself. (Halloween 8, and Jason X)

23rd August 2006 12:34  #14

mrsalmeida Member Join Date: August 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 6
I love watching fims in the cinema as you feel more involed. the groundshakes when there are very loud noises and the screen is massive. I always sit at the back at the cinema. what about you?

25th August 2006 4:10  #15

Bob "the film man" Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United States Posts: 258
I try to sit in the middle of the very back row. It seems to me like this gives you the best home theater experiance.

25th August 2006 4:48  #16

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
I guess I'm not alone, sitting at the back middle, but not all the way back, just enough to be level with the screen, a few rows down from the back.

25th August 2006 23:06  #17

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
Mark Lim wrote: I guess I'm not alone, sitting at the back middle, but not all the way back, just enough to be level with the screen, a few rows down from the back.

Ya, same with meself Happy

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