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8th October 2005 4:39  #1

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Star Wars and Young Indy news!
Dont shoot me, I'm just the messenger. Very Happy

thedigitalbits.com -

Producer Rick McCallum and ILM animation director Rob Coleman confirmed that Lucas has continued to digitally massage the other Star Wars films. Specifically, Coleman indicated that the puppet Yoda from Episode I has been replaced with a digital Yoda that matches the character as seen in Episodes II and III. The CG performance was specifically tailored to match to Frank Oz's puppet performance. You'll be pleased to know that Coleman also told me, in no uncertain terms, that Oz's puppet work in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi will NEVER be replaced with CG. So you fans can rest easy. You'll get to see the new changes on a future, as-yet-unscheduled box set release of the entire Star Wars saga on DVD and/or HD.

McCallum expects there to be 22 Young Indiana Jones Chronicles DVDs in all, 3 of which have been completed. The discs will include some 66 historical featurettes, now in production. Work has been ongoing for about 18 months on the Young Indy DVDs, with about another 18 months worth of work yet to be done. If all goes well, the plan is to tie the DVD release to the theatrical debut of Indy IV (the script for which Lucas is expected to finish this Sunday).

8th October 2005 5:25  #2

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Quote: Originally posted by Jonny "Me You"

You'll be pleased to know that Coleman also told me, in no uncertain terms, that Oz's puppet work in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi will NEVER be replaced with CG. So you fans can rest easy.

Wish someone would have stuck to that philosophy back in 1997...at this point they might as well replace the old puppet Yoda in the original films anyway to go along with all of the other CGI crap that was thrown in.

8th October 2005 5:29  #3

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
"Fooled you I did" remarked Lucas....

8th October 2005 6:30  #4

floyd dylan Banned Join Date: April 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 913
Will Lucas be digitially erasing Jar Jar?

8th October 2005 10:25  #5

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,115 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Someone digitally erased his integrity.

8th October 2005 11:39  #6

Mal Webmaster Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,290
Sounds like Chris will have to update his articles then. Happy

8th October 2005 12:09  #7

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,115 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Not if they're only on HD/Blu Ray. I don't intend to buy that for a very long time (if at all).

8th October 2005 14:00  #8

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
Great job there, Messenger Jonny.

8th October 2005 15:29  #9

Explosive Calm Member Join Date: March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 63
Damn, can't the guy stop playing with his children like that? I meant the films incase anyone's confused.

8th October 2005 16:04  #10

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Quote: Originally posted by Matt Joseph
Wish someone would have stuck to that philosophy back in 1997...at this point they might as well replace the old puppet Yoda in the original films anyway to go along with all of the other CGI crap that was thrown in.


I would have prefered the puppet in II and III but I realize they probably wouldn't have been able to have had Yoda do anything more then hobble. That said, Lucas as a whole has no concept of how to properly use CGI. Neither does most of Hollywood for that matter. It still looks too fake to be used as a primary means to build imagery.

It's great for hilighting stuff like stars or lightsabers, but there is no subsitute yet for a physical item. Like a ship model or a full size set.

I was also thinking of buying Young Indy, but I was assuming that it was coming as a proper box set. If they are all being released individually, it'll be like the first wave of Star Trek TOS. Expensive and bulky. No thanks.

8th October 2005 16:12  #11

- - Senior Member Join Date: March 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 594
Quote: Originally posted by Jonny "Me You"
I would have prefered the puppet in II and III but I realize they probably wouldn't have been able to have had Yoda do anything more then hobble. That said, Lucas as a whole has no concept of how to properly use CGI. Neither does most of Hollywood for that matter. It still looks too fake to be used as a primary means to build imagery.


I agree and also, I think  the CGI doesn't look good in episode IV-VI because the films are just too old in my opinion and that's why it look fake.

8th October 2005 16:38  #12

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
This is what got me out of that article:

Quote: McCallum expects there to be 22 Young Indiana Jones Chronicles DVDs in all, 3 of which have been completed.

Why on earth do they need 22 DVDs for Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.  I looked it up imdb and there were only 30 episodes.  That's almost a disc an episode.

8th October 2005 17:34  #13

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
There were (I believe) only 22 episodes, because, when the "Complete Indiana Jones 'Legacy'" was released on VHS in '99, "Temple of Doom" was Chapter 23, following the last "Young Indy" adventure ("Raiders" was 24 and "Crusade" was 25).
I could however be very wrong because I never actually saw any of these episodes on Television so I don't know exactly how many episodes there are, I am just making an educated guess.

9th October 2005 3:32  #14

rob murray Member Join Date: November 2004 Location: United States Posts: 477
Charlie Brown says UGGGGGGGGHHHHH

11th October 2005 16:16  #15

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
Well I'm not looking forward to the ongoing digital tinkering but here's hoping this all inclusive set has more extensive bonus features for the original trilogy.  The fact that all those deleted scenes from the OT haven't been used is just stupid. With any luck following the release of a 12 disc set Lucas will stop making the fans jump through hoops.

11th October 2005 18:29  #16

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I am all for replacing the episode one yoda. It looked like ass. And besides, it's episode one, none of you all liked it anyway. If there was messing about with the original Yoda we'd have cause to be mad, but this is good news, to me at least. I bet they'll update Jar Jar someday down the line, the effects are showing their age.

Also, if any of you listened to the commentary on Fellowship of the Ring, you may remember Peter Jackson saying he had plans to alter the digital Gollum that appeared in that film, as it didn't really match the later one.

11th October 2005 19:33  #17

floyd dylan Banned Join Date: April 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 913
Yoda looked older in TPM than he did in TESB.

11th October 2005 22:49  #18

rob murray Member Join Date: November 2004 Location: United States Posts: 477
See i thought he looked younger in Episode 1

11th October 2005 23:44  #19

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Regaurdless, he looked like ass.

12th October 2005 8:32  #20

dan laurikietis Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 92
Gabriel has a point there the Episode 1 Yoda bears very little relation to the Yoda from the original trilogy or even episode 2 and 3.  He can't have aged that much in 10 years!

28th February 2006 4:08  #21

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I love the first 2 Star Wars movies Jedi I liked.  The problem with the newest ones was that George Lucas made everything to busy!  Like when charectors are talking and out of the window behind them there will be a million special efects.  This takes away from anything the actors are trying to do.  Yes I love FX but when its too much it gets to be way too much...

28th February 2006 15:27  #22

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
The problem with the new Star Wars movies is the dialogue and the direction.  Before the new Star Wars, I would have never believed that a director could take that sort of cast and turn them in grade Z actors.

6th March 2007 21:28  #23

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Pant... Pant... Took me awhile to dig this one up...

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID...

They's a comin'! Slightly pissed about the format, as they'll cost one Hell of a lot more than if they were just the episodes in a set.

7th March 2007 12:19  #24

Cervantes Member Join Date: November 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 172
He can do what the hell he likes with this upcoming boxset, as long as I can get my original UNTOUCHED trilogy with a 5.1 ANAMORPHIC cleaned up print like it SHOULD have been already!...

8th March 2007 2:16  #25

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Ah but therein lies the loophole. He HAS given you the untouched one. If he puts 5.1 and a new Anamorphic transfer, it would no longer be untouched or in effect, the original release.  Wink

9th March 2007 0:40  #26

Stephen Etherton Member Join Date: October 2003 Location: United States Posts: 706
Adrian wrote: This is what got me out of that article:

Quote: McCallum expects there to be 22 Young Indiana Jones Chronicles DVDs in all, 3 of which have been completed.

Why on earth do they need 22 DVDs for Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.  I looked it up imdb and there were only 30 episodes.  That's almost a disc an episode.


See?  I was looking forward to a box set containing all the episodes, or maybe a Volume 1 or 2 (containing all the episodes), but not I get to buy EACH episode individually !?!?

That suck, I am sure then, and only then after all have been sold on DVD in individual cases, will they ever come in one box.

Maybe he is planning on an extention on the 'ol ranch, and needs a few cents more?

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