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Star Wars Orig Cuts Coming??

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6th April 2006 15:39  #1

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Star Wars Orig Cuts Coming??
I heard a rumor that the Original Editions are coming to Blue-Ray DVD have you heard the same?

6th April 2006 15:42  #2

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
I seriously doubt it unless George Lucas has passed away and his children are now controlling the movies.  Lucas has stated many times over that the original cuts no longer exist for him.  He doesn't seem to be one to change his mind.

6th April 2006 16:30  #3

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
This has been discussed at length before, but yes - there is a rumor there will be a final Ultimate Edition of Star Wars that would include yet another version of the Special Editions, and the original cuts among hordes of bonus material. Only time will tell if it's true, but the rumored date was 2007 for the 30 year anniversary.

Remember, we know Star Wars is coming to theaters at least one more time, in ridiculous and over the top 3D.

6th April 2006 18:47  #4

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,113 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Christ, these rumours have been around for years. If (and I mean if) he does releases them, he will be going back on everything he has said over the last few years. Of course this is nothing new to the man, but I'd be surprised if they do see the light of day in his lifetime.

After Lucas is 'oven ready' I'm sure Fox will milk it for all it's worth, although by then most of the fanatical Star Wars fans (such as myself) would have stopped caring.

I already have DVD copies ripped from LD, and I'm quite happy with them for historical purposes. I have lost a lot of respect for Lucas as a filmmaker after the prequels and reading some of the stuff that Gary Kurtz has written.

6th April 2006 19:44  #5

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,457 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Yeah, Lucas may not care what everyone else thinks of his films, but he's going to stick by HIS vision of them. I don't see this ever happening.

6th April 2006 20:24  #6

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Gabe Powers wrote: Yeah, Lucas may not care what everyone else thinks of his films, but he's going to stick by HIS vision of them. I don't see this ever happening.

I see it happening the day after Lucas dies.  After all, whoever controls his property isn't going to worry about Lucas's vision.  They are going to see the $$$$s in releasing the original, unaltered trilogy.

6th April 2006 20:43  #7

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,113 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
As I said above, the most obsessive (i.e. people around my age) are going to have moved on by then. There will be marriage and kids for one thing. I speak for myself of course, as I know those things are some way beyond a lot of Star Wars fans Wink

7th April 2006 3:11  #8

Arellium Member Join Date: January 2006 Location: United States Posts: 136
I just want a cut of Return of the Jedi without Hayden whathisface at the end. That kinda ruined it for me.

7th April 2006 15:21  #9

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Chris wrote: ...After Lucas is 'oven ready' I'm sure Fox will milk it for all it's worth, although by then most of the fanatical Star Wars fans (such as myself) would have stopped caring.

Geesh, I had no idea George Lucas was also the Pillsbury Dough Boy!

But seriously, it seems interest in great iconic films like "The Ten Commandments, "Gone With The Wind," "Ben-Hur," "The Wizard of Oz," "West Side Story," and "The Godfather" continues to this day. I was just a kid when the original  "Star Wars" films splashed across movie screens but my interest in those films has never died.  My nephews are fanatical Beatles fans and both were born after John Lennon was murdered. I think fanatical interest in George Lucas' masterpiece will continue for generations because it made a huge cultural impact that spanned four decades.

7th April 2006 15:58  #10

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
I'm a huge Humphrey Bogart fan despite the fact that he died 15 years before I was born.  Certain works will always be rediscovered by future generations.  We may stop caring about Star Wars, but other people probably still will care and those future people may be intrigued by seeing Star Wars as they have never seen it before.

As for me, I really don't care as long as my laser disc player holds out.  I have the definitive edition on laser disc, which includes the THX cleanup, but doesn't alternate the film significantly.

I'm still waiting for Lucas to edit out when the Storm Trooper bonks his head going through the doorway.

7th April 2006 17:47  #11

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Adrian wrote: I really don't care as long as my laser disc player holds out.  I have the definitive edition on laser disc, which includes the THX cleanup, but doesn't alternate the film significantly.
Best to get those transferred to DVD before your player konks out though or you'll regret it later. Decent laserdisc players have become increasingly hard to come by over the past couple of years.

7th April 2006 18:35  #12

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,113 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Adrian wrote: I'm still waiting for Lucas to edit out when the Storm Trooper bonks his head going through the doorway.

He wouldn't edit that. He's retconned it so that Jango Fett does it in the prequel trilogy...

7th April 2006 22:14  #13

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Well Mr Lucas MIGHT release the orignal cuts saying "..because of the fans want them..."  

9th April 2006 2:01  #14

Trap Door Member Join Date: January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 250
There will always be another edition of the films. It seems the longer I wait for the originals the more they get screwed up in future releases. I don't think he'll do it. People said before they'd be on the DVD but well....no. This is a rumor of hope.

14th April 2006 20:11  #15

Ben Dover Member Join Date: February 2005 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 103
Uh...just becasue he dies doesnt mean he cant leave behind legal stipulations stating that the OC can never be seen again...

14th April 2006 20:13  #16

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Ben Dover wrote: Uh...just becasue he dies doesnt mean he cant leave behind legal stipulations stating that the OC can never be seen again...

Who would sue if someone went against his wishes?  Basically, the only way he could accomplish this is to destroy every known copy of the original trilogy.

14th April 2006 21:10  #17

Franchise Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 294 Send a message via AIM to Franchise Send a message via MSN to Franchise Send a message via Yahoo to Franchise
Thank God for people who did rips of the laserdisc versions of these movies.  You know, I don't mind slick reproductions, but movies should be complete when they come out.  They shouldn't be getting tweaked 20 years down the line.  I think that's a bit excessive.

14th April 2006 22:02  #18

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Franchise wrote: Thank God for people who did rips of the laserdisc versions of these movies.  You know, I don't mind slick reproductions, but movies should be complete when they come out.  They shouldn't be getting tweaked 20 years down the line.  I think that's a bit excessive.

I really don't mind the tweaks, regardless of when they are done.  In fact, I'm looking forward to a definitive version of Baby Face now that they have found a version before it was changed to meet decency standards.  What irks me is Lucas pretending like the original versions never existed.  Why can't he understand that people want to see the Star Wars they grew up with?

4th May 2006 3:21  #19

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,457 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Holeee S**t. I'm the wrongest man that was ever wrong apparently.
Info from the official site

4th May 2006 3:30  #20

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
Chris wrote: Adrian wrote: I'm still waiting for Lucas to edit out when the Storm Trooper bonks his head going through the doorway.

He wouldn't edit that. He's retconned it so that Jango Fett does it in the prequel trilogy...
If only he could edit out Jar Jar Binks....

4th May 2006 3:35  #21

Adam K Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 247
The Digital Bits just announced that the original cuts WILL be released. Check it out here:
http://thedigitalbits.com (its the May 4th column)
They'll be released September 12th in 2-disc sets containing the original cut and 2004 re-works, and there's a possibility for a box set. They go out of print on December 31st and there are apparently no plans for high definition DVD releases.

4th May 2006 3:44  #22

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,457 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
So I guess everyone ignores it when I post...

4th May 2006 4:24  #23

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Gabe Powers wrote: So I guess everyone ignores it when I post...
Basically. Wink

4th May 2006 5:06  #24

John Oaks Senior Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 951
I think the best part is that they're also going to include the remastered version as well. It kind of reminds me of how the E.T. DVD was that it included the original and the remastered version.

4th May 2006 8:17  #25

rob murray Member Join Date: November 2004 Location: United States Posts: 477
I know I'm just being a picky little b***h now, but why couldnt they have kept the 5.1 tracks.

4th May 2006 11:02  #26

Jaybee79 Member Join Date: December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 84
At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference.

4th May 2006 11:55  #27

stuart bannerman Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 139
im glad the original ones are coming out
at least we can now watch the film the way it was intended to be.  

4th May 2006 14:10  #28

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Justin Biddle wrote: At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Just curious, how old are you Justin?

4th May 2006 16:51  #29

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,113 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Quote: I know I'm just being a picky little b***h now, but why couldn't they have kept the 5.1 tracks.

Because they didn't have 5.1 when they were originally released. I'll be interested to see if they fix the errors with the older release, and how much restoration they do for the original cuts.

It's a pity this has only come about because they have product to sell (the new game and a new line of toys), rather than any genuine desire to give the fans what they want.

Another nail in the 'George Lucas tell us what he wants us to hear' coffin.

4th May 2006 18:47  #30

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Did Lucas die?  Confused
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