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Star Wars Orig Cuts Coming??

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4th May 2006 18:58  #31

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Originaltrilogy.com are claiming that this is their doing. Yeah right. They decided to do this based on an Internet petition of 72,000 signatures...

One fo the forum members said that their names should be recognised int he credits, like LotR. I really hope he was being facetious.

4th May 2006 19:20  #32

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Ugh!  Why are they forcing us to rebuy the SEs to get the originals as "bonus features".  Most of us probably already have the SEs and will have to keep that set as it is the only one with special features.

Why can't they just give us a package with the original features all together?

4th May 2006 19:58  #33

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,488 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Those of you planning on selling your 2004 discs who want to keep the special features, I've noticed them on sale very cheap at Hollywood Video stores.

4th May 2006 21:00  #34

Stephen Etherton Member Join Date: October 2003 Location: United States Posts: 706
Matt wrote: Justin Biddle wrote: At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Just curious, how old are you Justin?


For me, I never jumped on the bandwagon of original vs. current.  The changes never ruined the original trilogy, some of them were for the better, but others were not.  I never liked Han shooting second (later at the 'same time' ) because that changed the dynamics of the character, and the other gripe was the Jedi musical. The rest of the changes were just fine, and generally accepted by most people.  

The improving the special effects were a good thing, and removing those awful matte lines was even better, and although I appreciate how it was done before, I can further enjoy how much better it looks now.  

I think Lucas, no matter what his motivations are, is doing a good thing.  People can stop yearning for the original version, and finally choose.  I will buy it, so I can have both, but personally, I still think I would prefer the improved look and special effects over the very dated original versions.

4th May 2006 21:28  #35

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Stephen Etherton wrote: I think Lucas, no matter what his motivations are, is doing a good thing.  People can stop yearning for the original version, and finally choose.  I will buy it, so I can have both, but personally, I still think I would prefer the improved look and special effects over the very dated original versions.

I have watched both versions recently (I own the original trilogy "unaltered" on laserdisc) and the changes, especially to Star Wars and Return of the Jedi are jarring and take you out of the moment of movie.  Having Jabba in the first movie was just a bad idea.  He looks so much different than he did in Return of the Jedi.

I don't get people that complain about older effects.  They are what they are.  It's kind of silly to go back and try to "improve" them.

4th May 2006 22:31  #36

rob murray Member Join Date: November 2004 Location: United States Posts: 477
Chris wrote: Quote: I know I'm just being a picky little b***h now, but why couldn't they have kept the 5.1 tracks.

Because they didn't have 5.1 when they were originally released. I'll be interested to see if they fix the errors with the older release, and how much restoration they do for the original cuts.

It's a pity this has only come about because they have product to sell (the new game and a new line of toys), rather than any genuine desire to give the fans what they want.

Another nail in the 'George Lucas tell us what he wants us to hear' coffin.


im aware of that, I'm kinda just a surround sound w***e

4th May 2006 23:11  #37

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Wow.  People are starting to unload the Definitive Edition Laserdiscs on Ebay now.

5th May 2006 1:42  #38

Tigerclaw Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 493 Send a message via MSN to Tigerclaw
Signs that you have watched Star Wars too many times:

- Your poodles are named "C," "3," "P" and "O"

- You won't sleep with your wife unless she says, "Help me, Obi Wan, you're my only hope"

- You spent $10,000 trying to Rogaine yourself into Chewbacca

- You're continually stunned when the President makes major decisions without consulting Mark Hamill

- Your favorite pickup line: "Would you like to handle my light saber?"

- You keep referring to your lawn mower as "that crazy droid"

- You spend most of your days trying to use "the Force" to open a can of pears

- You once saw an eggplant that looked kind of like Darth Vader and almost had a heart attack

- Your sex life is strictly "Han Solo," if you know what I mean

- When theater lights come back on, you're still a 40-year old virgin.

5th May 2006 1:59  #39

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I knew it would happen hurray

5th May 2006 2:15  #40

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
No, you thought, you couldn't possibly have known. Unless of course you have Force powers.

5th May 2006 2:58  #41

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Chris wrote: No, you thought, you couldn't possibly have known. Unless of course you have Force powers.

I have force powers. Remember to ask me to teach em to you sometime Wink

5th May 2006 3:37  #42

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Who says I don't? For example, I knew what my Mrs got my for my birthday. I felt her presents Wink

5th May 2006 8:48  #43

rob murray Member Join Date: November 2004 Location: United States Posts: 477
Chris wrote: Who says I don't? For example, I knew what my Mrs got my for my birthday. I felt her presents Wink

im sorry I just had to quote that

5th May 2006 12:06  #44

Jaybee79 Member Join Date: December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 84
Matt wrote: Justin Biddle wrote: At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Just curious, how old are you Justin?


I'm 26. Just to clarify something. I wasn't arguing the case for or against the changes just the level of mania it seems to incite. The changes by and large whether good or bad are only minor. The argument that having Greedo shoot first completely ruins Han's character implies that he is so poorly written that without this one brief scene his entire story is ruined.

Better or worse, the changes do seem to provoke strong reactions on both sides which I've never really got.

From my own point of view I grew up on the original versions and when the changes came along I quite liked them. It wasn't until I read online reviews that I realised they had caused huge consternation. When I read these reviews I began to realise that some of the changes were in actual fact detrimental. I just didn't think they warranted the outcry they caused.

But then that's just me.

5th May 2006 15:28  #45

Stephen Etherton Member Join Date: October 2003 Location: United States Posts: 706
$tar War$
This is not actually about the DVDs, but I found it so blatantly funny, I had to share it.
A new definition of Ironic:
The Offical Star Wars Website Store is selling
"Han Shot First" shirts.  
http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?pr...
It seems this goes against everything George stated that he always intended to do it that way.  It is like he found another way to make a buck.  Start a controversy, and now sell to both sides of it.   It is to laugh.

5th May 2006 21:10  #46

rob murray Member Join Date: November 2004 Location: United States Posts: 477
$tar War$
Stephen Etherton wrote: This is not actually about the DVDs, but I found it so blatantly funny, I had to share it.
A new definition of Ironic:
The Offical Star Wars Website Store is selling
"Han Shot First" shirts.  
http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?pr...
It seems this goes against everything George stated that he always intended to do it that way.  It is like he found another way to make a buck.  Start a controversy, and now sell to both sides of it.   It is to laugh.


that is not without humor, arent they releasing the Lego game on the same day too?

6th May 2006 0:00  #47

MrStayPuft Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United States Posts: 146
$tar War$
rob murray wrote: that is not without humor, arent they releasing the Lego game on the same day too?
Heck yes it is! I wonder if Han will shoot first in that game?

6th May 2006 1:26  #48

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Was I wrong??
stanton heck wrote: Well Mr Lucas MIGHT release the orignal cuts saying "..because of the fans want them..."  
I told you so

8th May 2006 19:11  #49

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
So this would be Star Wars Un-Dux would it?

9th May 2006 0:32  #50

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Is there anything "Star Wars Related" besides "The Star Wars Holiday Special" that has not been released?

18th May 2006 0:03  #51

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Apparently the original cuts of the film that we already know is going to be in dolby 2.0 is NOT going to be anamorphic 16x9 enhanced and is essientially going to be a port of the laserdisc.

In other words, you can go onto ebay right now and buy for $10 what lucas wants $60 for. Way to go lucas, you just lost my sale Very Happy

18th May 2006 0:05  #52

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Um, where are you getting that information? Nothing official has been announced yet, at least not in the UK.

18th May 2006 0:09  #53

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
The Bits. They also have the artwork.

18th May 2006 0:22  #54

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
They don't cite a source though. I'll try and get an answer from Fox UK as I don't deal with the US distributors, but they are a bit c**p when it comes to discussing potentially damaging subjects.

18th May 2006 0:58  #55

Tigerclaw Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 493 Send a message via MSN to Tigerclaw
non-anamorphic = no sale!

18th May 2006 1:14  #56

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Indeed. They can go and f**k themselves. I might get a copy to review for the site, if only to slate the hell out of them for doing a non-anamorphic transfer in 2006.

18th May 2006 1:47  #57

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Chris wrote: Um, where are you getting that information? Nothing official has been announced yet, at least not in the UK.

Hey I have my jedi secrets too Wink Mine wasn't the bits but I got the same message from my little birdy.

It's funny though isnt it? If I'm not mistaken Lucas has claimed releasing the originals will defeat piracy. But since his asking price is so high and the quality is the same as the pirated copies, he's probably going to increase it.

18th May 2006 3:14  #58

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I wish people would just stop beating about the bush and give some sort of hint as to where the info came from, at the very least. It wouldn't hurt to say 'from someone connected with the release', or 'from someone at Lucasfilm', rather than leaving it so totally vague.

$29.98 SRP is c**p though. I'm sure they'll claim it's great value as you get two versions, but anyone who wants Star Wars will already have the 2004 set (or the 2005 re-release) and if the originals aren't anamorphic they're pretty much coasters. The bloke really is a f**king mong.

Roll on the fan projects based on these releases, as they'll no doubt improve on them.

18th May 2006 3:51  #59

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Chris wrote: I wish people would just stop beating about the bush and give some sort of hint as to where the info came from, at the very least. It wouldn't hurt to say 'from someone connected with the release', or 'from someone at Lucasfilm', rather than leaving it so totally vague.


Sometimes doing so would get said unnammed sources in trouble for breaking release plans or sharing internal info, even if the source seems too vague to recognize they dont want to chance it Wink

18th May 2006 15:11  #60

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Here's a good point thedigitalbits.com brought up in their lastest post about the movies.

The original 1977 Star Wars movie now titled Episode IV: A New Hope is being released without it's A New Hope Title. The first time that's EVER happened on home video. If you recall, you saw it briefly on the Empire of Dreams documentary. If you also recall it was ANAMORPHIC. So, if you put two and two together - if you saw something that has never been seen before, and it was anamorphic and Lucas claims to be using old laserdisc ports for the movies on DVD when we KNOW it was remastered for anamorphic widescreen, guess what? Lucas is full of s**t and lying to the public about not having a better source. Likely, to get you to buy the anamorphic version later in yet another re-release.

That's just great. George Lucas just gave all of us a big 'ole F**K YOU! and I'm willing to bet he's gonna try to do it again next year for the 30th anniversary. Hopefully by then, Rick MacCullum will toss him down a giant Death Star II pitt.
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