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The convenience of a smaller disc coupled with not having to turn the discs over (depending on whether the discs were CLV or CAV) multiple times.
But if you already have the laserdiscs, why would you buy the DVDs for the same thing?
I don't think the transfers are going to bad.  I have the laserdisc set and they look great.
I am glad they are coming.  They might not look as good as the "Special edition" DVD sets but they will look good.  I have the Laserdisc and they look great.  If they are from the same trasnfers then most fans should be happy.
Jonny "Me You" wrote: Sometimes doing so would get said unnammed sources in trouble for breaking release plans or sharing internal info, even if the source seems too vague to recognize they dont want to chance it Wink

Hehe, I'll take that to mean you know someone involved with the production then. He's in trouble now!
If it is non-anamorphic, it's a no sale to me.  I have the Definitive Laserdisc set and I can transfer it to DVD myself.
Here's a good point thedigitalbits.com brought up in their lastest post about the movies.

The original 1977 Star Wars movie now titled Episode IV: A New Hope is being released without it's A New Hope Title. The first time that's EVER happened on home video. If you recall, you saw it briefly on the Empire of Dreams documentary. If you also recall it was ANAMORPHIC. So, if you put two and two together - if you saw something that has never been seen before, and it was anamorphic and Lucas claims to be using old laserdisc ports for the movies on DVD when we KNOW it was remastered for anamorphic widescreen, guess what? Lucas is full of s**t and lying to the public about not having a better source. Likely, to get you to buy the anamorphic version later in yet another re-release.

That's just great. George Lucas just gave all of us a big 'ole F**K YOU! and I'm willing to bet he's gonna try to do it again next year for the 30th anniversary. Hopefully by then, Rick MacCullum will toss him down a giant Death Star II pitt.
Chris wrote: I wish people would just stop beating about the bush and give some sort of hint as to where the info came from, at the very least. It wouldn't hurt to say 'from someone connected with the release', or 'from someone at Lucasfilm', rather than leaving it so totally vague.


Sometimes doing so would get said unnammed sources in trouble for breaking release plans or sharing internal info, even if the source seems too vague to recognize they dont want to chance it Wink
I wish people would just stop beating about the bush and give some sort of hint as to where the info came from, at the very least. It wouldn't hurt to say 'from someone connected with the release', or 'from someone at Lucasfilm', rather than leaving it so totally vague.

$29.98 SRP is c**p though. I'm sure they'll claim it's great value as you get two versions, but anyone who wants Star Wars will already have the 2004 set (or the 2005 re-release) and if the originals aren't anamorphic they're pretty much coasters. The bloke really is a f**king mong.

Roll on the fan projects based on these releases, as they'll no doubt improve on them.
Chris wrote: Um, where are you getting that information? Nothing official has been announced yet, at least not in the UK.

Hey I have my jedi secrets too Wink Mine wasn't the bits but I got the same message from my little birdy.

It's funny though isnt it? If I'm not mistaken Lucas has claimed releasing the originals will defeat piracy. But since his asking price is so high and the quality is the same as the pirated copies, he's probably going to increase it.
Indeed. They can go and f**k themselves. I might get a copy to review for the site, if only to slate the hell out of them for doing a non-anamorphic transfer in 2006.
non-anamorphic = no sale!
They don't cite a source though. I'll try and get an answer from Fox UK as I don't deal with the US distributors, but they are a bit c**p when it comes to discussing potentially damaging subjects.
The Bits. They also have the artwork.
Um, where are you getting that information? Nothing official has been announced yet, at least not in the UK.
Apparently the original cuts of the film that we already know is going to be in dolby 2.0 is NOT going to be anamorphic 16x9 enhanced and is essientially going to be a port of the laserdisc.

In other words, you can go onto ebay right now and buy for $10 what lucas wants $60 for. Way to go lucas, you just lost my sale Very Happy
Is there anything "Star Wars Related" besides "The Star Wars Holiday Special" that has not been released?
So this would be Star Wars Un-Dux would it?
Was I wrong??
stanton heck wrote: Well Mr Lucas MIGHT release the orignal cuts saying "..because of the fans want them..."  
I told you so
$tar War$
rob murray wrote: that is not without humor, arent they releasing the Lego game on the same day too?
Heck yes it is! I wonder if Han will shoot first in that game?
$tar War$
Stephen Etherton wrote: This is not actually about the DVDs, but I found it so blatantly funny, I had to share it.
A new definition of Ironic:
The Offical Star Wars Website Store is selling
"Han Shot First" shirts.  
http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?pr...
It seems this goes against everything George stated that he always intended to do it that way.  It is like he found another way to make a buck.  Start a controversy, and now sell to both sides of it.   It is to laugh.


that is not without humor, arent they releasing the Lego game on the same day too?
$tar War$
This is not actually about the DVDs, but I found it so blatantly funny, I had to share it.
A new definition of Ironic:
The Offical Star Wars Website Store is selling
"Han Shot First" shirts.  
http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?pr...
It seems this goes against everything George stated that he always intended to do it that way.  It is like he found another way to make a buck.  Start a controversy, and now sell to both sides of it.   It is to laugh.
Matt wrote: Justin Biddle wrote: At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Just curious, how old are you Justin?


I'm 26. Just to clarify something. I wasn't arguing the case for or against the changes just the level of mania it seems to incite. The changes by and large whether good or bad are only minor. The argument that having Greedo shoot first completely ruins Han's character implies that he is so poorly written that without this one brief scene his entire story is ruined.

Better or worse, the changes do seem to provoke strong reactions on both sides which I've never really got.

From my own point of view I grew up on the original versions and when the changes came along I quite liked them. It wasn't until I read online reviews that I realised they had caused huge consternation. When I read these reviews I began to realise that some of the changes were in actual fact detrimental. I just didn't think they warranted the outcry they caused.

But then that's just me.
Chris wrote: Who says I don't? For example, I knew what my Mrs got my for my birthday. I felt her presents Wink

im sorry I just had to quote that
Who says I don't? For example, I knew what my Mrs got my for my birthday. I felt her presents Wink
Chris wrote: No, you thought, you couldn't possibly have known. Unless of course you have Force powers.

I have force powers. Remember to ask me to teach em to you sometime Wink
No, you thought, you couldn't possibly have known. Unless of course you have Force powers.
I knew it would happen hurray
Signs that you have watched Star Wars too many times:

- Your poodles are named "C," "3," "P" and "O"

- You won't sleep with your wife unless she says, "Help me, Obi Wan, you're my only hope"

- You spent $10,000 trying to Rogaine yourself into Chewbacca

- You're continually stunned when the President makes major decisions without consulting Mark Hamill

- Your favorite pickup line: "Would you like to handle my light saber?"

- You keep referring to your lawn mower as "that crazy droid"

- You spend most of your days trying to use "the Force" to open a can of pears

- You once saw an eggplant that looked kind of like Darth Vader and almost had a heart attack

- Your sex life is strictly "Han Solo," if you know what I mean

- When theater lights come back on, you're still a 40-year old virgin.
Wow.  People are starting to unload the Definitive Edition Laserdiscs on Ebay now.
Chris wrote: Quote: I know I'm just being a picky little b***h now, but why couldn't they have kept the 5.1 tracks.

Because they didn't have 5.1 when they were originally released. I'll be interested to see if they fix the errors with the older release, and how much restoration they do for the original cuts.

It's a pity this has only come about because they have product to sell (the new game and a new line of toys), rather than any genuine desire to give the fans what they want.

Another nail in the 'George Lucas tell us what he wants us to hear' coffin.


im aware of that, I'm kinda just a surround sound w***e
Stephen Etherton wrote: I think Lucas, no matter what his motivations are, is doing a good thing.  People can stop yearning for the original version, and finally choose.  I will buy it, so I can have both, but personally, I still think I would prefer the improved look and special effects over the very dated original versions.

I have watched both versions recently (I own the original trilogy "unaltered" on laserdisc) and the changes, especially to Star Wars and Return of the Jedi are jarring and take you out of the moment of movie.  Having Jabba in the first movie was just a bad idea.  He looks so much different than he did in Return of the Jedi.

I don't get people that complain about older effects.  They are what they are.  It's kind of silly to go back and try to "improve" them.
Matt wrote: Justin Biddle wrote: At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Just curious, how old are you Justin?


For me, I never jumped on the bandwagon of original vs. current.  The changes never ruined the original trilogy, some of them were for the better, but others were not.  I never liked Han shooting second (later at the 'same time' ) because that changed the dynamics of the character, and the other gripe was the Jedi musical. The rest of the changes were just fine, and generally accepted by most people.  

The improving the special effects were a good thing, and removing those awful matte lines was even better, and although I appreciate how it was done before, I can further enjoy how much better it looks now.  

I think Lucas, no matter what his motivations are, is doing a good thing.  People can stop yearning for the original version, and finally choose.  I will buy it, so I can have both, but personally, I still think I would prefer the improved look and special effects over the very dated original versions.
Those of you planning on selling your 2004 discs who want to keep the special features, I've noticed them on sale very cheap at Hollywood Video stores.
Ugh!  Why are they forcing us to rebuy the SEs to get the originals as "bonus features".  Most of us probably already have the SEs and will have to keep that set as it is the only one with special features.

Why can't they just give us a package with the original features all together?
Originaltrilogy.com are claiming that this is their doing. Yeah right. They decided to do this based on an Internet petition of 72,000 signatures...

One fo the forum members said that their names should be recognised int he credits, like LotR. I really hope he was being facetious.
Did Lucas die?  Confused
Quote: I know I'm just being a picky little b***h now, but why couldn't they have kept the 5.1 tracks.

Because they didn't have 5.1 when they were originally released. I'll be interested to see if they fix the errors with the older release, and how much restoration they do for the original cuts.

It's a pity this has only come about because they have product to sell (the new game and a new line of toys), rather than any genuine desire to give the fans what they want.

Another nail in the 'George Lucas tell us what he wants us to hear' coffin.
Justin Biddle wrote: At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Just curious, how old are you Justin?
im glad the original ones are coming out
at least we can now watch the film the way it was intended to be.  
At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference.
I know I'm just being a picky little b***h now, but why couldnt they have kept the 5.1 tracks.
I think the best part is that they're also going to include the remastered version as well. It kind of reminds me of how the E.T. DVD was that it included the original and the remastered version.
Gabe Powers wrote: So I guess everyone ignores it when I post...
Basically. Wink
So I guess everyone ignores it when I post...
The Digital Bits just announced that the original cuts WILL be released. Check it out here:
http://thedigitalbits.com (its the May 4th column)
They'll be released September 12th in 2-disc sets containing the original cut and 2004 re-works, and there's a possibility for a box set. They go out of print on December 31st and there are apparently no plans for high definition DVD releases.
Chris wrote: Adrian wrote: I'm still waiting for Lucas to edit out when the Storm Trooper bonks his head going through the doorway.

He wouldn't edit that. He's retconned it so that Jango Fett does it in the prequel trilogy...
If only he could edit out Jar Jar Binks....
Holeee S**t. I'm the wrongest man that was ever wrong apparently.
Info from the official site
Franchise wrote: Thank God for people who did rips of the laserdisc versions of these movies.  You know, I don't mind slick reproductions, but movies should be complete when they come out.  They shouldn't be getting tweaked 20 years down the line.  I think that's a bit excessive.

I really don't mind the tweaks, regardless of when they are done.  In fact, I'm looking forward to a definitive version of Baby Face now that they have found a version before it was changed to meet decency standards.  What irks me is Lucas pretending like the original versions never existed.  Why can't he understand that people want to see the Star Wars they grew up with?
Thank God for people who did rips of the laserdisc versions of these movies.  You know, I don't mind slick reproductions, but movies should be complete when they come out.  They shouldn't be getting tweaked 20 years down the line.  I think that's a bit excessive.
Ben Dover wrote: Uh...just becasue he dies doesnt mean he cant leave behind legal stipulations stating that the OC can never be seen again...

Who would sue if someone went against his wishes?  Basically, the only way he could accomplish this is to destroy every known copy of the original trilogy.
Uh...just becasue he dies doesnt mean he cant leave behind legal stipulations stating that the OC can never be seen again...
There will always be another edition of the films. It seems the longer I wait for the originals the more they get screwed up in future releases. I don't think he'll do it. People said before they'd be on the DVD but well....no. This is a rumor of hope.
Well Mr Lucas MIGHT release the orignal cuts saying "..because of the fans want them..."  
Adrian wrote: I'm still waiting for Lucas to edit out when the Storm Trooper bonks his head going through the doorway.

He wouldn't edit that. He's retconned it so that Jango Fett does it in the prequel trilogy...
Adrian wrote: I really don't care as long as my laser disc player holds out.  I have the definitive edition on laser disc, which includes the THX cleanup, but doesn't alternate the film significantly.
Best to get those transferred to DVD before your player konks out though or you'll regret it later. Decent laserdisc players have become increasingly hard to come by over the past couple of years.
I'm a huge Humphrey Bogart fan despite the fact that he died 15 years before I was born.  Certain works will always be rediscovered by future generations.  We may stop caring about Star Wars, but other people probably still will care and those future people may be intrigued by seeing Star Wars as they have never seen it before.

As for me, I really don't care as long as my laser disc player holds out.  I have the definitive edition on laser disc, which includes the THX cleanup, but doesn't alternate the film significantly.

I'm still waiting for Lucas to edit out when the Storm Trooper bonks his head going through the doorway.
Chris wrote: ...After Lucas is 'oven ready' I'm sure Fox will milk it for all it's worth, although by then most of the fanatical Star Wars fans (such as myself) would have stopped caring.

Geesh, I had no idea George Lucas was also the Pillsbury Dough Boy!

But seriously, it seems interest in great iconic films like "The Ten Commandments, "Gone With The Wind," "Ben-Hur," "The Wizard of Oz," "West Side Story," and "The Godfather" continues to this day. I was just a kid when the original  "Star Wars" films splashed across movie screens but my interest in those films has never died.  My nephews are fanatical Beatles fans and both were born after John Lennon was murdered. I think fanatical interest in George Lucas' masterpiece will continue for generations because it made a huge cultural impact that spanned four decades.
I just want a cut of Return of the Jedi without Hayden whathisface at the end. That kinda ruined it for me.
As I said above, the most obsessive (i.e. people around my age) are going to have moved on by then. There will be marriage and kids for one thing. I speak for myself of course, as I know those things are some way beyond a lot of Star Wars fans Wink
Gabe Powers wrote: Yeah, Lucas may not care what everyone else thinks of his films, but he's going to stick by HIS vision of them. I don't see this ever happening.

I see it happening the day after Lucas dies.  After all, whoever controls his property isn't going to worry about Lucas's vision.  They are going to see the $$$$s in releasing the original, unaltered trilogy.
Yeah, Lucas may not care what everyone else thinks of his films, but he's going to stick by HIS vision of them. I don't see this ever happening.
Christ, these rumours have been around for years. If (and I mean if) he does releases them, he will be going back on everything he has said over the last few years. Of course this is nothing new to the man, but I'd be surprised if they do see the light of day in his lifetime.

After Lucas is 'oven ready' I'm sure Fox will milk it for all it's worth, although by then most of the fanatical Star Wars fans (such as myself) would have stopped caring.

I already have DVD copies ripped from LD, and I'm quite happy with them for historical purposes. I have lost a lot of respect for Lucas as a filmmaker after the prequels and reading some of the stuff that Gary Kurtz has written.
This has been discussed at length before, but yes - there is a rumor there will be a final Ultimate Edition of Star Wars that would include yet another version of the Special Editions, and the original cuts among hordes of bonus material. Only time will tell if it's true, but the rumored date was 2007 for the 30 year anniversary.

Remember, we know Star Wars is coming to theaters at least one more time, in ridiculous and over the top 3D.
I seriously doubt it unless George Lucas has passed away and his children are now controlling the movies.  Lucas has stated many times over that the original cuts no longer exist for him.  He doesn't seem to be one to change his mind.
Star Wars Orig Cuts Coming??
I heard a rumor that the Original Editions are coming to Blue-Ray DVD have you heard the same?