Cookies on DVDActive
DVDActive uses cookies to remember your actions, such as your answer in the poll. Cookies are also used by third-parties for statistics, social media and advertising. By using this website, it is assumed that you agree to this.
 
Leaderboard Extra
Superman Returns

Forums - Discs & Movies - Superman Returns 

5th July 2006 17:57  #31

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Dustin wrote: Just to clarify my opinion, I absolutely loved Spacey as Lex, but I'm ready for a few new villains.  Keep him in the mix, sure, but bring on Braniac, Mxyztplk, Bizarro, General Zod, and when it's time for Supes death, bring on Doomsday.

I'm not sure how well the rest of the villians would transfer to the big screen.  You never know.  Singer has done a pretty good job up to this point.

Spoiler And to the other argument, there is no doubt that the kid is Superman's kid.  Do you think a normal human child could use a grand piano to kill someone?

5th July 2006 19:42  #32

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,457 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I thought the action in Batman Begins was awfully shot, and that the final act was anything but organic, but it was all in all a better film that Superman Returns. At least no one said "I've got to get me one of those", right?

14th July 2006 7:55  #33

Ravenwood Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 230
My late (since I just saw it today) and overlong review:

This is a very good movie but it's not great. The pacing of the story works, it never felt long like Peter Jackson't King Kong remake did. In fact, I think SR should have been longer. The Smallville scenes should have been expanded, I wanted to see more of Martha Kent and her reaction to Clark's return, plus more flashbacks. The actor playing the young Clark was really good. I don't know if the scenes after Young Clark falls through the barn were edited poorly but it looked like the film had been spliced together after it had broken, from the way the images jumped back and forth so quickly from young and older Clark. I would like to have seen a better transition from Smallville to Metropolis.

I don't mind the Donner movie influences, the opening credits were great and I liked the use of the Williams' theme. Even though there was less to the Jor-El footage than I expected, what was there worked and I liked how it was used. I've always loved the look of Krypton and the Fortress of Solitude from the '78 film, it has a unique and original look and I'm glad the design was carried over. I enjoyed all of the dialogue references too. While Luthor's plan was too similiar and the story somewhat weak, things like this have never bothered me before.

I can deal with weak plots and story if the characters are interesting. I never watched all 4 seasons of Lois & Clark for the stories. For the most part, the characters in SR were well done. Kate Bosworth was better than expected as Lois, she was very believable as being hurt by Superman's leaving and abandonment of her. Spacey was great as Lex, he wasn't over the top and was very menacing. He was the best cast actor in the movie. Huntington was really good as Jimmy and Langella took time getting used to. I liked his lower key approach to the role, Lane Smith is the best Perry in my opinion. Parker Posey was good as Kitty, I've never liked her before.

I like how Jason White was used, I like how certain things about the character were downplayed. Marsden was really good, seeing him in a hero role makes me wish his part in the X-men movies was larger. Routh was excellent as Superman, His Clark was good but could have been better. The problem is that the character was under used in the movie. He (Clark) spent most of the movie just sitting around. He's supposed to be a reporter but we don't get to see him do anything but sit and look around the Planet offices.

The movie would have worked better if Clark and Lois had more screen time together, they should have investigated the blackout together. Lois is the one who does all of the work. I didn't like how she and her son just walked onto Lex's yacht and we captured, it was too anti-climatic. What worked the best were the scenes between Lois and Superman. I felt their pain. I really cared about the characters in general in this movie, even though many of them (Clark, Jimmy, Perry, etc.) were underutilized. Seeing Kitty in tears as Superman was being worked over by Luthor's Henchmen was well done. I believed that she was sorry for what was happening.

The visual effects were well done for the most part, except for Superman's cape. It looked animated to the point of being distracting in a few shots. The action scenes were also well done, I felt the characters were really in danger, some of the other Superhero movies lacked this sense of feeling in the fight and action scenes. Visually the movie was superb. The costume looked better on screen than the still did. The colour of the red still takes a little geting used to but it wasn't distracting.

The extended ending was good for the most part, the hospital scenes were the weakest and the Lex/Kitty scene was my favourite. The movie could have used more humour and it lacked the excitement of the other Superman incarnations. What I liked the most was, that for the first time, I actually felt Superman's feeling of being an outsider and his alienation, this added a lot to the movie. The movie was about choices and consequences and how his decision to leave affected his life. I think this added some depth to the character. Singer and co may have painted themselves into a corner but I look forward to seeing how things turn out in a sequel. I also think that this is a movie that will get better on repeat viewings.

I give it a 9/10

16th July 2006 1:46  #34

Darren Russell Member Join Date: June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 208
Wow. Only $155 million to date.  And everyone had this pegged as the film to beat this summer.
Interesting.  

16th July 2006 2:39  #35

Franchise Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United States Posts: 294 Send a message via AIM to Franchise Send a message via MSN to Franchise Send a message via Yahoo to Franchise
I personally loved the movie, but it definitely suffers from being too long.  I could have cut a half hour and it would have been good.  Of course, I loved The Punisher and The Hulk.

20th July 2006 20:42  #36

Trap Door Member Join Date: January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 250
Adrian wrote: Dustin wrote: Just to clarify my opinion, I absolutely loved Spacey as Lex, but I'm ready for a few new villains.  Keep him in the mix, sure, but bring on Braniac, Mxyztplk, Bizarro, General Zod, and when it's time for Supes death, bring on Doomsday.

I'm not sure how well the rest of the villians would transfer to the big screen.  You never know.  Singer has done a pretty good job up to this point.

Spoiler And to the other argument, there is no doubt that the kid is Superman's kid.  Do you think a normal human child could use a grand piano to kill someone?


Spoiler what would you think would happen to a Piano on a Boat in Rough seas? :p

But I do think it is Spoiler Superman's Son, especially at the end when he looks over the boy, maybe he used X-ray vision to see his intsides aren't all human. Also it's possible Lois whisphered this to him in his ear. Might be so as it had the boy standing next to the costume after.

20th July 2006 21:39  #37

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Trap Door wrote:

Spoiler what would you think would happen to a Piano on a Boat in Rough seas? :p


Spoiler
At the moment that happened, I don't think the seas were very rough. Also, the piano would be bolted to the floor in such a way to withstand rough seas, so something extraordinary would have to happen to move the piano

20th July 2006 22:23  #38

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Adrian wrote: Trap Door wrote:

Spoiler what would you think would happen to a Piano on a Boat in Rough seas? :p


Spoiler
At the moment that happened, I don't think the seas were very rough. Also, the piano would be bolted to the floor in such a way to withstand rough seas, so something extraordinary would have to happen to move the piano



But we never actually see it... That's my argument. Although it probably did happen how you all say.

21st July 2006 6:11  #39

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Superman returned and I returned the favor by seeing it three times…so far. I loved every minute of the film and suffered no ill effects even after the third go round. It moved faster than a speeding bullet. If a director can keep me from squirming in my seat after 2.5 hours and gets me to see the film in a theater more than once, he did a tremendous job in my book.

21st July 2006 7:25  #40

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
This had to be the most sedate of the recent, big budget superhero movies; it builds and builds and by the end of nearly two and a half hours has gone nowhere. I liked parts of it, but there's not one exciting or rousing, clap your hands and cheer moment past the first major action sequence and the actors seemed like they were all on Thorazine through the whole thing. Yawn...either it's getting really late or I'm getting tired just thinking about it.

21st July 2006 15:27  #41

Gunsprout Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 171
Ok, The Matrix Revolutions was rubbish but when I first saw the fight scene between neo and Agent Smith towards the end my first thought was that this is what a Superman move should have in it - a great big ball-busting, buildings being knocked down, fists breaking the sound barrier, punch-up.

But we got Lex Luthor again....

The film is also too dark and gothic-y. I can appreciate Bryan Singer stylising the film like an old 1940's ish matinee movie however whilst this works for The Rocketeer for example, it is better suited to Batman - a dark and brooding character - rather than Superman, who should be portrayed in a bright and colourful world.

And what's with the costume (NEVER mess with the costume!!) and Lois Lane having a kid?!?

26th July 2006 20:53  #42

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I enjoyed the movie it was better than "Batman Begins"

30th July 2006 22:29  #43

DarthElektra Member Join Date: February 2006 Location: United States Posts: 97
I loved Superman Returns!

Bryan Singer and Brandon Routh did a Excellent job!

31st July 2006 17:04  #44

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Why do they do it. Come the sequels, they've got to put kids in them. When I first heard (and this isn't a spoiler) that Lois Lane was married and had a kid, I thought that could be interesting to see it played out and how it would affect Clark/Superman. Now having seen the film, and seen how they use the kid, NOOOOOO! I definately don't want to see that storyline played out. Cheesy. Other than that, a good attempt at the thankless task of bringing Supes back to the big screen.

31st July 2006 17:15  #45

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: Why do they do it. Come the sequels, they've got to put kids in them. When I first heard (and this isn't a spoiler) that Lois Lane was married and had a kid, I thought that could be interesting to see it played out and how it would affect Clark/Superman. Now having seen the film, and seen how they use the kid, NOOOOOO! I definately don't want to see that storyline played out. Cheesy. Other than that, a good attempt at the thankless task of bringing Supes back to the big screen.

Uhm, because most grownups eventually go on to have relationships that bear children.  That's why they do it.

31st July 2006 17:28  #46

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Those same parents go to the cinema to get away from their kids though. The last thing they need is kids in the films as well. Just joking. I have two of my own.

But by that logic, do old people crave films about old people with their ilnesses and complaints? Mmm. I wonder.

31st July 2006 21:21  #47

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: Those same parents go to the cinema to get away from their kids though. The last thing they need is kids in the films as well. Just joking. I have two of my own.

But by that logic, do old people crave films about old people with their ilnesses and complaints? Mmm. I wonder.


The UK must be different because it seems like no one springs for a babysitter stateside anymore.  I can't tell you how many times I've seen toddlers at 10 pm showings of stuff like Hostel.  (Well, not Hostel, in particular, as I seem to recall I was the only one there for that movie!)

31st July 2006 21:32  #48

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Way off topic but no babysitter. My wife was good eneough to let me go see it. Intended to see a digital screening of it but there didn't appear to be any so I went to local multiplex. Needless to say, the print was scratched. It seems too much to expect these days to hope for an undamaged print 1st Monday after opening weekend. What do we want? Miracles?

1st August 2006 4:13  #49

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: Way off topic but no babysitter. My wife was good eneough to let me go see it. Intended to see a digital screening of it but there didn't appear to be any so I went to local multiplex. Needless to say, the print was scratched. It seems too much to expect these days to hope for an undamaged print 1st Monday after opening weekend. What do we want? Miracles?

DLP to really take off.  I saw the movie in it's third week of release on the DLP at the local cinema and it looked pristine.  It's odd, I live in a small city; however, we now have DLPs at 3 different theaters.
Page Number: 1 [2]

Quick Reply 

Message Enter the message here then press submit. The username, password and message are required. Please make the message constructive, you are fully responsible for the legality of anything you contribute. Terms & conditions apply.
Not Registered?
Forgotten Details?