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21st November 2006 17:22  #31

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Lol oh shush you tart. My worldpay thing is in GBP too. Wooha. Still gonna wait til it shows up on my bank statement though before whoop whooping.

22nd November 2006 6:57  #32

demiscy Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 589
The ultimate collection doesn't include the original soundtrack after all despite advrtised

Quote: According to a post on supermancinema.co.uk, as well as capedwonder.com, the original 1978 stereo surround soundtrack which was supposed to be included with the original theatrical version of Superman the Movie on the new dvd apparently is NOT PRESENT despite Warner's press release that it would be.

I had the opportunity to view the packaging of both yesterday, and while the separate 4 disc edition lists the soundtrack as remastered DD 5.1, the bottom of the ULTIMATE SUPERMAN box stated that the original 1978 stereo surround soundtrack WAS included.

One of the reasons I and many other fans of this series lobbied for the original theatrical version of STM was to be able to re-experience it as I SAW and HEARD it in 1978(especially the effects sounds during the opening credits) . Otherwise, there was no reason to double dip. For Warner to promise and yet fail to deliver the 1978 OST after so many requests from fans is an absolute travesty.  I have lost ALL enthusiasm for this release.

I am seriously considering cancelling my pre-order for the Ultimate set and urge others to do the same unless Warner delivers the 1978 OST as they promised, either by recalling or offering a disc replacement if necessary.


check out this thread over at HTForums: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread....

22nd November 2006 9:58  #33

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Bit of a shame, but there's so much more to this release I can live with it. The remix was actually extremely good, so it's not like it damages the viewing experience (like a lot of substandard remixes). To be honest it's not like they did it to piss people off - the original audio elements were apparently damaged beyond repair.

22nd November 2006 10:21  #34

demiscy Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 589
Well it's another thing to NOT having them and not including them and another to advertise them being on the set when it isnt!

22nd November 2006 10:26  #35

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
Oh I need to have the money now for this set - you are all making me insanely jealous!

22nd November 2006 11:37  #36

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
demiscy wrote: Well it's another thing to NOT having them and not including them and another to advertise them being on the set when it isnt!

Did they advertise it? I don't handle region one news and it wasn't posted here, so can you provide a link?

22nd November 2006 14:22  #37

demiscy Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 589
Chris it mentions it in the press release

DVD Special Features:
Disc One
" Original 1978 theatrical version with its original Dolby Stereo theatrical soundtrack, as well as remastered in Dolby Digital 5.1.
" Commentary by producer Pierre Spengler and executive producer Ilya Salkind
" Theatrical trailers
" TV spot
" Languages: English & Français
" Subtitles: English, Français & Español (feature film only)
Disc Two
" 2000 expanded edition movie with commentary by director Richard Donner and creative consultant Tom Mankiewicz
" Music-only audio track as well as Dolby Digital 5.1 English
" Subtitles: English, Français, Español & Português (feature film only)

http://www.supermancinema.co.uk/daily_planet/dv...

plus, it says so on the bottom of the TIN !
People over at HTF are talking about the possibility of a replacement disc...

22nd November 2006 14:33  #38

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
Never mind. It is not there anyway.

22nd November 2006 14:41  #39

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I'm not going to cry about it. I really loved the remix, and they'd never replace the disc because I have imported it.

22nd November 2006 17:08  #40

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Meh who cares. I'd rather watch Superman in 5.1. (no that's a total lie, I'd rather watch it in DTS)

22nd November 2006 17:20  #41

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
Aye if the 5.1 is a good mix, then I wont miss it.

22nd November 2006 17:40  #42

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Nic Mall wrote: Meh who cares. I'd rather watch Superman in 5.1. (no that's a total lie, I'd rather watch it in DTS)

DTS is 5.1 Tongue

22nd November 2006 19:08  #43

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
SM:TM is a great advert for good remixes. I count the first Superman Movie as having one the greatest openings to a movie ever. The overture going into full on John Williams, it can't be beaten. Well it can but for the purposes of this, it can't. Even though it can. But won't. The only way it could be bettered would be if a whale flew overheard as the titles swooped by.

Even if the Donner cut only amounts to a curiosity of would might have been, it will be great see a cleaned up version of S2 in 5.1. The previous release was dog biscuits in comparison to the treatment the extended first movie got.

23rd November 2006 2:49  #44

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Intergalactic Ponce wrote:  The only way it could be bettered would be if a whale flew overheard as the titles swooped by.

You mean you never noticed that before?

23rd November 2006 15:20  #45

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
That's no whale. That's a space station.

23rd November 2006 19:34  #46

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Chris Gould wrote: Nic Mall wrote: Meh who cares. I'd rather watch Superman in 5.1. (no that's a total lie, I'd rather watch it in DTS)

DTS is 5.1 Tongue

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True but it sounds soooo much better than regular 5.1
So Shoosh :p

23rd November 2006 19:46  #47

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I take it you liked 'The Emperor's New Clothes' as well? Tongue

23rd November 2006 20:17  #48

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
mm?

24th November 2006 12:37  #49

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I'm referring to the fact that DTS isn't actually better than Dolby in real terms. There's never been any conclusive proof that either format is demonstrably superior. You can't just go by the raw figures, as they are entirely diferent codecs. DTS is definitely louder on most DVDs - and I'm fairly convinced this is what most people are hearing when they say DTS is better - but have you ever matched the levels and done a blind test?

DTS has become a good marketing tool for the studios. They are including it in place of original Mono and Stereo mixes in most cases, which can't be a good thing. Why put two nearly identical 5.1 tracks on the same disc? I guess descrete 6.1 audio is a good thing, but still...

You got yours yet Nic? Any customs charges, or did it sc**pe through okay?

24th November 2006 17:25  #50

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Not yet Sad
You?

24th November 2006 18:17  #51

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Aye, turned up this morning customs free.

24th November 2006 19:12  #52

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
DAMN YOUOOOOOO
And dts *is* better because I said so. So double shoosh Tongue

24th November 2006 21:44  #53

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Kneel before Zod! Or something. At least you got yours mega-cheap. The deleted scenes for Superman IV are so laughably bad I'm extremely thankful they didn't reintegrate them. I didn't actually think it was possible to make that film worse, but...

It's a lovely tin BTW. Mine arrived relatively unscathed as it was packaged very well. Disc holders are a bit naff, and a lot of the menus are static and boring, but apart from that it's lush.

Um, either I'm going crazy, or none of the advertised special features for Superman III are on the disc... There's no commentary, no vintage making-of, and no deleted scenes...

24th November 2006 22:05  #54

Brian O. Member Join Date: October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 92
Chris Gould wrote:
Um, either I'm going crazy, or none of the advertised special features for Superman III are on the disc... There's no commentary, no vintage making-of, and no deleted scenes...


Apparently WB accidentally included the 2001 release of Superman III and not the deluxe edition one. I've read reports around the Net about this. I certainly hope WB starts an exchange program because it seems most if not all will be this way..

24th November 2006 22:10  #55

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I'm so pissed off about this now. it's ruined the best release of the year...

25th November 2006 0:40  #56

Brian O. Member Join Date: October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 92
Indeed, although I ordered mine on Barnes and Noble.com for $45.68 (shipped), so I'm going to stick with it and hopefully WB will offer a replacement disc.

29th November 2006 3:14  #57

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I am diapointed in this box set!  It had a lack of deleted scenes!  Looks like the bootleggers are still in business!

29th November 2006 3:31  #58

aleks Member Join Date: December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 51 Send a message via AIM to aleks Send a message via MSN to aleks Send a message via Yahoo to aleks Send a message via Google to aleks Send a message via Jabber to aleks
Im pissed off.. my tin box has a dent in it but I managed to get the last copy from Best Buy.

29th November 2006 5:46  #59

juanacate Member Join Date: August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 20 Send a message via MSN to juanacate
Aside from having the wrong audio mix for Supes 1 and the wrong disc for 3, the set is beautiful, and the extras look amazing. I'm waiting until they replace the discs, even if it takes months, to starts viewing the set's special features.

29th November 2006 10:15  #60

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
stanton heck wrote: I am diapointed in this box set!  It had a lack of deleted scenes!  Looks like the bootleggers are still in business!

How has it got a lack of deleted scenes? There are deleted scenes on virtually every disc (apart from Superman III, but that's just a mistake). Christ, most of the Donner cut is comprised from deleted footage.
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