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29th November 2006 17:52  #61

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Chris Gould wrote: stanton heck wrote: I am diapointed in this box set!  It had a lack of deleted scenes!  Looks like the bootleggers are still in business!

How has it got a lack of deleted scenes? There are deleted scenes on virtually every disc (apart from Superman III, but that's just a mistake). Christ, most of the Donner cut is comprised from deleted footage.


There is no deleted scenes from the Lester Cut!  Tons of them were on the Restored international Cut!   Also there is tons of extended scenes from Superman The move that could of been included!  

29th November 2006 18:14  #62

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
You weren't specific, you just said it had a lack of deleted scenes. It clearly doesn't as there are loads.

29th November 2006 22:38  #63

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
I'm confused, why are people b***hing about the original soundtrack not being included. When theres a stereo soundtrack on there? Me brain hurtuum muchum
Just watching the Fleischer cartoons on disc 4. Awesome.

29th November 2006 23:00  #64

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Because it's just a downmix of the 5.1 track, with all the altered sound effects etc. The original 2.0 Stereo track is different. It wasn't on the old DVD because Warner said too many elements were damaged.

I watched those cartoon last night, and that Molemen thing. They really liked to show extended scenes of people chasing dwarves with large foreheads back in those days Happy

30th November 2006 13:59  #65

Colton Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 73
I saw the R3 13-disc in the shops here. Compared with the R1 14 discs, what's the missing disc? Does the R3 set have the same blunder that plagues the R1 edition? Anyone knows?

30th November 2006 14:57  #66

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
I decided to break down and buy this set, even if two of the discs are screwed up, but it seems that Amazon is holding off from shipping anymore out until they receive more of the corrected sets, presumably on the 8th of December.

30th November 2006 15:05  #67

silenzio Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 30
mine has shipped finally from Amazon!!! Also I emailed them and they said it will be the corrected discs. Hopefully...

30th November 2006 18:05  #68

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
TWO discs are b****red? Whats the other one!?

30th November 2006 18:53  #69

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Superman: The Movie (theatrical cut).

30th November 2006 21:47  #70

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
Oh yeah the whole missing soundtrack thing.
Hope DVDworldUSA do a replacement thing too or I might just have to buy the deluxe one on it's own.

30th November 2006 23:32  #71

OMA Member Join Date: November 2006 Location: United States Posts: 4
Is anyone else upset with the packaging of the Ultimate Edition? I thought each movie and suppliment disk would be in their own thin case or double case not one big book.  I also thought the "reprint of the classic comic book cover" would be the covers to the movie disks. This set in my opinion sucks on design. I like having the cases so I'm returning mine to Amazon and will buy the four movies I wanted individually.  Sucks that it will actuallly cost me more but this tin is a joke and the layout of the disk is garbage.

1st December 2006 9:31  #72

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Nic Mall wrote: Oh yeah the whole missing soundtrack thing.
Hope DVDworldUSA do a replacement thing too or I might just have to buy the deluxe one on it's own.


They are, I rang them the other day and had a chat. They're still waiting to see what Warner will do.

1st December 2006 13:40  #73

Nic Mall Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,202 Send a message via MSN to Nic Mall
OMA wrote: Is anyone else upset with the packaging of the Ultimate Edition? I thought each movie and suppliment disk would be in their own thin case or double case not one big book.  I also thought the "reprint of the classic comic book cover" would be the covers to the movie disks. This set in my opinion sucks on design. I like having the cases so I'm returning mine to Amazon and will buy the four movies I wanted individually.  Sucks that it will actuallly cost me more but this tin is a joke and the layout of the disk is garbage.
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How. Very. Dare you.

1st December 2006 15:53  #74

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
OMA wrote: Is anyone else upset with the packaging of the Ultimate Edition? I thought each movie and suppliment disk would be in their own thin case or double case not one big book.  I also thought the "reprint of the classic comic book cover" would be the covers to the movie disks. This set in my opinion sucks on design. I like having the cases so I'm returning mine to Amazon and will buy the four movies I wanted individually.  Sucks that it will actuallly cost me more but this tin is a joke and the layout of the disk is garbage.
How about instead you just buy a few cases from the multitude of retailers on the web that sell DVD cases to hold any number of discs and print off some artwork that would no doubt be better than the retail, single versions anyway? Hmm...save money and keep all of the extra stuff in the set that you wouldn't get  otherwise...what a grand idea.

1st December 2006 17:33  #75

OMA Member Join Date: November 2006 Location: United States Posts: 4
That is a good idea about getting the individual cases and then printing out my own artwork. I hadn't even thunk of that. THANKS!  This Internet thing rocks! LOL

2nd December 2006 14:02  #76

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
I was wondering for those waiting for replacement discs, do we have to send back the bad ones or do we get to keep them and get the good ones, which makes it 16?  

2nd December 2006 16:21  #77

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Mark Lim wrote: I was wondering for those waiting for replacement discs, do we have to send back the bad ones or do we get to keep them and get the good ones, which makes it 16?  
After calling Warner via a toll free number (1-800-553-6937), they will send you the pre-paid packaging materials and you will have to send the two discs back to them. They in turn will send the corrected discs back to you. How this applies to anyone who lives outside of North America is up to the discretion of where you purchased the set though, so you will want to check with your retailer first.

2nd December 2006 20:58  #78

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
See now honestly, I don't mind that, but I mean, that means we're without S:TM or SIII for God knows how long. I know it's not the end of the world, it's just bothersome knowing the set is missing discs, even if it is only for a few weeks.

2nd December 2006 22:44  #79

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
I remember with the Back to the Future discs all I had to do was write a letter and they sent out new discs - I never had to return the originals.

3rd December 2006 3:30  #80

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
My retailer is waiting on reply from DVDpacific. Who knows if I get to keep the bad discs. My retailer so far only need to provide his invoice details regarding all the Superman Sets he received.

3rd December 2006 16:44  #81

Bob "the film man" Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United States Posts: 258
I imagine I will end up just keeping the defective discs. I may end up buying III used somewhere if I decide I want to see the extras. I don't really care to send two discs in and wait months and be without. Other than the mistakes, it is a great set though. I really enjoyed the Donner Cut.

4th December 2006 14:54  #82

OMA Member Join Date: November 2006 Location: United States Posts: 4
The Donner cut was damn good.  I thought the ending was a bit of a cop-out with the "spinning the world back to make the events not happen" but at that time in the comic books Superman was a GOD type character.

4th December 2006 15:31  #83

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Except that from a logical point of view, that never made any sense (even within the film's own reality).

4th December 2006 16:50  #84

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Here we go. Just bought mine and all but one of the discs are scratched in some way or another. I've been here with Babylon 5 boxsets and the only way I got a good set was to stand in the shop making one complete set up out of 3 others.

Back to the shop we go. Nothing else better to do have we Warners?

5th December 2006 21:37  #85

xombi Member Join Date: September 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4
R2 was released yesterday wasn't it?  Anyone bought it that can confirm if its all ok?

Never mind just saw this from supermancinema.co.uk

      It has been brought to the attention of Warner Home Video ("Warner") that the UK DVD release of Superman: The Movie - Special Edition does not include the original theatrical 2.0 audio on the 1978 theatrical version of the film. The audio options for this film are a remastered 2000 remixed English audio track in Dolby 5.1 and a Dolby 2.0 version of the remastered 2000 remixed audio track. Please note that these discs are not defective; we have received no complaints regarding the playability of these discs.

      Although the theatrical audio mix was not listed on any of the UK press releases or packaging, Warner are in the process of creating a disc with the original 2.0 theatrical mix so that any UK consumers who would prefer to have this audio option will be able to exchange their Disc 1 of Superman: The Movie 4-disc Special Edition for a disc with the original theatrical audio and Dolby 5.1.

      Replacement discs can be obtained, at no cost to the consumer, by calling: 0207 984 6480. Warner Home Video will provide consumers with a pre-paid, pre-addressed envelope for sending the disc they are returning. Upon receipt of the purchased disc, Warner Home Video will send a replacement Disc 1 as soon as they become available. Warner Home Video will honor all requests for replacement discs that comply with the exchange program requirements.

      Please allow up to 28 days for delivery of replacement.

      CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS
      Jacqueline Allan
      0207 984 6480
      ukcustomer.enquiries@warnerbros.com

Note: The above information only applies to Warner Home Video UK, and to UK Region 2 copies of Superman: The Movie which was available individually (4-disc set), in The Christopher Reeve Superman Collection (9-disc set), and in the Superman Ultimate Collector's Edition (13-disc set).

I don't appear to have been sent mine from cdwow yet, but I will just order the replacement when it eventually arrives!

7th December 2006 14:10  #86

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Sounds fishy. I thought Warner had stated that the original sound mix elements were unusable. Still, I can't say I'm that bothered about an exchange as I don't really see myself ever wanting or needing to watch the theatrical over the expanded version. I liked what they did with the new version.

Anyone else found that SR picture quality isn't that great considering it's an HD source and transfer? I have a zoom facility on my DVD player, to look at areas of the picture more closely, and it is riddled with blocking. It's more noticable when the frame has one overall colour or subtle shades of that colour (the under water scenes or when Superman slowely decsends into the fortress of solitude) but it seems to be far worse than say Episode 3 which still holds up to scrutiny when the image is blown up. Instead of gradual shades across the frame there is a sort of ugly banding effect. I don't think for one minute it's the source material it just looks like bad encoding. Why SR should look worse than Ep 3 I've no idea. Ep 3 was of comparable length and it had more disc space taken up with a commentary track. I wouldn't like to think what a longer version of the film plus a commentary would look like.

In fact, I would say that S:TM, despite it being nearly 30 years old (and on 35mm) looks to have had a better job done on it as far as how it's been encoded/authored for DVD.

I was expecting more from Superman Returns in the visual department. The DD5.1 is really good though. Lots of directional effects centre seemed low but that might just be me. Kids were in bed so overall level was lower than I would have liked it. Even the opening Legendary Pictures logo has got sound coming from all over the place.

The documentary on SR was good but not as focused as the LOTR docs. Plus where is all the stuff on the post production and visual effects. I know some of that is in the R1 set as part of Bryan Singer's journals, but the whole 'making of' process just seems to stop once filming has wrapped.

We will of course be buying this all over again in the future so hopefully the post production phase of 'the making of SR' will show up at some point.

7th December 2006 15:12  #87

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,127 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Sounds like posterisation. The original release of The Matrix Reloaded had loads, but the version in The Ultimate Matrix Collection was much better. Not watched the Superman Returns from the R1 set yet, so can't comment on whether it's present.

11th December 2006 17:10  #88

The Ranger Member Join Date: June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 135
Does anyone know what the new SKU's are for the corrected R1 sets? That is if they have shipped them out yet. If anyone has bought a set that has correct discs, then could you get the SKU or ISBN. It would be a big help.

Update: I got an email from warner concerning the sku's. Apparently they will stay the same. I will post the email in case anyone is interested.

Unfortunately, the product sold in the stores has not yet been corrected. The sku/upc code will not change.Please note that Warner Home Video is currently working on correcting this product. Once the problem has been corrected this information will be posted on our website. Please continue to visit our website regarding future updates.

I hope the corrected sets will be in store before christmas.

12th December 2006 23:42  #89

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Augh! Then how the Hell are we supposed to know the bleeding difference?

13th December 2006 21:04  #90

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Has anybody heard about a release date for the re-sut of Superman Returns
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