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27th August 2006 2:32  #1

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
The remake was better?
Can you name a movie where the remake was better?  The only one that comes to mind is "Cape Fear" but I never saw the original until I saw the remake!  

27th August 2006 4:10  #2

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
King Kong
Dawn of the Dead
Ocean's Eleven
Night of the Living Dead (well maybe not better, but pretty close)

and wasn't this a thread before?

27th August 2006 5:05  #3

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Tony DeFrancisco wrote:

and wasn't this a thread before?



Yup and guess who started it...

I agree with King Kong (2005 I assume) and Cape Fear.

Titanic
War of the Worlds
Pride and Prejudice (referring to the 2005 being better than the Laurence Olivier one)

27th August 2006 5:09  #4

Bob "the film man" Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: United States Posts: 258
King Kong
Night of the Living Dead
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (I know I will receive hate posts for this)
Silence of the Lambs (from manhunter)

27th August 2006 5:55  #5

Jersey Jedi Member Join Date: August 2004 Location: United States Posts: 714
Vanilla Sky
Plantet of the Apes (Blasphemy, I know)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

Would Batman Begins be categorized as a remake? I assumed not, but it could be argued otherwise.

Bob "the film man" wrote:
Silence of the Lambs (from manhunter)


Wasn't "Red Dragon" the remake of 'Manhunter'? I haven't seen 'Manhunter but I read that it was.

27th August 2006 6:15  #6

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Jersey Jedi wrote:
Plantet of the Apes (Blasphemy, I know)

Would Batman Begins be categorized as a remake? I assumed not, but it could be argued otherwise.


I though Burton's "Apes" was good, but better than the masterpiece? Hell no! Sorry, but it is blasphemy, at least you acknowledge it.

Charlie I forgot to mention, yes, way better than Wonka

I was gonna put BB myself but thought it didn't classify as a remake. But to each his own. I wouldn't bite your head off if you put it.

27th August 2006 10:36  #7

£ukasz D Member Join Date: August 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 859 Send a message via Skype to £ukasz D
Bob "the film man" wrote:
Silence of the Lambs (from manhunter)

Wasn't "Red Dragon" the remake of 'Manhunter'? I haven't seen 'Manhunter but I read that it was.

Yep..it was a re-make of Manhunter....

I'd say....:
-Red Dragon (re Manhunter)
-Titanic
-King Kong
-Gone in 60 seconds

27th August 2006 11:30  #8

Danny Storr Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 161
[quote=Tony DeFrancisco wrote]King Kong
Dawn of the Dead
Ocean's Eleven
Night of the Living Dead (well maybe not better, but pretty close)

Sorry Pal but I feel you are way out with regards "Dawn of the Dead" The romero original is far superior to Zack snyder`s remake although its a ok film in it on right...

27th August 2006 14:08  #9

Mark Lim Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,211
I'm surprised no one mentioned "The Italian Job". I liked it better than the original. Also...
The Bourne Identity
The Fugitive??
The Mask of Zorro
Point Of No Return
Dr.Dolittle
Alfie
Father Of The Bride
Catch Me If You Can
The Manchurian Candidate

These are out of my DVD collection, which I like.

27th August 2006 14:17  #10

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
Thought of a few more, some people already mentioned:

Texas Chainsaw Massacre (hey I liked it)
Red Dragon
Hills Have Eyes
Man on Fire
Maltese Falcon (how did I forget that one, I dont know)
Bad News Bears
Wizard of Oz
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory


ill think of some more later

27th August 2006 15:05  #11

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
There's a severe lack of taste in this thread Wink Red Dragon better than Manhunter? On what planet exactly? Oh, the planet 'we like s**t films'. Same for Dawn of the Dead - there's no way the remake is better than the classic original. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was one of the worst films of its year - I almost walked out.

The Fly, now there's a remake that's better than the original. Heat is Michael Mann's own remake of L.A. Takedown, and that's also much better.

27th August 2006 16:55  #12

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Chris Gould wrote: There's a severe lack of taste in this thread Wink

Well, we are talking about remakes here.

Italian Job: No
Manchurian Candidate: No
The Fly: Hell yes!
Catch Me If You Can: Not a remake of "The Great Imposter"
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory: Yes, it was better than the '71 Musical and was much more faithful to the book (albeit with a father for Wonka, but nevertheless)

27th August 2006 17:01  #13

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
I forgot that can Dawn of the Dead remake can nearly match up against the Romero version. The remake was pretty superior though.

27th August 2006 18:12  #14

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Huh?

27th August 2006 18:56  #15

Danny Storr Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 161
Tony DeFrancisco wrote: I forgot that can Dawn of the Dead remake can nearly match up against the Romero version. The remake was pretty superior though.

In English please Wink
By the way all these remakes ,they are only because the original was brill and did well so the film companies think it`ll be good again(can`t think of any original ideas)- usually wrong!!!

27th August 2006 18:57  #16

Danny Storr Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 161
Danny Storr wrote: Tony DeFrancisco wrote: I forgot that can Dawn of the Dead remake can nearly match up against the Romero version. The remake was pretty superior though.

In English please Wink
By the way all these remakes ,they are only because the original was brill and did well so the film companies think it`ll be good again(can`t think of any original ideas)- usually wrong!!!


Thinking about that says it all about the star wars prequels

27th August 2006 20:34  #17

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
Chris Gould wrote: Huh?Wowzers, didnt realize I messed up. Anyway, what I meant to say was is that the remake was very close to being better than the original. I just forgot to include that statement in my first original post.

28th August 2006 2:50  #18

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,442 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers

28th August 2006 3:12  #19

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Gabe Powers wrote: covered here

and here

oh, and here


See now I've wanted to do that on SOOOO many threads here, but always have a fear of being banned for not making the post all that constructive...

DotD78 is better than DotD04.  

28th August 2006 3:34  #20

Matt Contributor Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,113
Chris Gould wrote: There's a severe lack of taste in this thread Wink
Was going to say the same thing myself when I first started reading this thread...figures you'd beat me to pointing it out. Wink

28th August 2006 12:42  #21

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,108 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Ray of sunshine me Wink

28th August 2006 15:11  #22

Mr.Badass Banned Join Date: April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 539
Ocean's 11
The Hills Have Eyes
The Fly
Red Dragon
Bad News Bwars

and remake of The Manchurian Candidate is Hollywood at it's worst

28th August 2006 19:42  #23

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,442 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I don't understand why anyone would like Red Dragon, let alone think it was better than Manhunter. Manhunter may be dated, but it is never boring, nor is it a total waste of what should've been one of the best casts of the last 10 years. Seriously, the film had no style its own, Ratner just did his best to copy the look of Demme's work on SOTL, none of the actors seem capable of even pretending to give a s**t about what they're doing, and the revamped ending was insainly stupid.

Even though Dawn of the Dead is one of my favorite films ever made, I get why younger people like the remake more. They're such different movies their not even really comparable, but I mark Red Dragon as one of the biggest disappointments I've ever sat through in theaters.

29th August 2006 4:50  #24

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
You know I saw Manhunter and I don't remember it!  I need to watchi t again.  However I did like Red Dragon but it was missing something...

29th August 2006 5:53  #25

SexyToad Member Join Date: July 2006 Location: United States Posts: 43
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Romeo + Juliet
The Lord of the Rings 1 2 & 3
The Fly
Vanilla Sky

29th August 2006 5:54  #26

Ravenwood Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 230
The only remakes that I think are equal in quality, if not better, to the original films are Heaven Can Wait (remake of Here Comes Mr Jordan) and John Carpenter's The Thing and A Christmas Carol ('51).

The New Bad News Bears pales in comparison the the original. Most of the kids in the remake are really bland, the original set seemed like they were real kids and not just actors playing kids. Plus in the end, they drank near beer instead of the real stuff like they did in the '76 film. The shock value of the remake seemed forced.

29th August 2006 15:47  #27

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Ravenwood wrote: The only remakes that I think are equal in quality, if not better, to the original films are Heaven Can Wait (remake of Here Comes Mr Jordan) and John Carpenter's The Thing and A Christmas Carol ('51).

I don't know if I would put the Thing up there.  The problem is that they are from such different eras that John Carpenter's The Thing and The Thing from Another World are very hard to compare.  I like both, but I love the original.

The one's I would say that are clearly better than the originals are Clooney's Ocean's Eleven and Bogart's The Maltese Falcon.

And there is a surprising lack of taste in this thread!

30th August 2006 8:47  #28

Ravenwood Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 230
Adrian wrote:
I don't know if I would put the Thing up there.  The problem is that they are from such different eras that John Carpenter's The Thing and The Thing from Another World are very hard to compare.  I like both, but I love the original.


I love both versions, though I prefer the original more, and I like that they are so different from each other. It seems like most remakes are almost shot for shot copies of the original film, where as Carpenter created his own interpretation of the story.

2nd September 2006 11:05  #29

Bodhi Member Join Date: February 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 403
Dawn of the Dead for me. The original had me in stiches because it was so bad.

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