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What did you think of Star Wars Episode III?

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7th June 2005 19:49  #61

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I'm pretty sure those will just be the versions already available in a neat little box. I don't think these will have any new features.

7th June 2005 20:22  #62

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
I hope not, because then I'd have to buy them again. I'm sure the "definitive" versions will come out in 2007 for the 30th anniversary.

8th June 2005 0:47  #63

rob murray Member Join Date: November 2004 Location: United States Posts: 477
supposedly its going to be all six movies in a box in 2007

edit: of course i didnt read the previous page before posting

11th June 2005 15:03  #64

- - Senior Member Join Date: March 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 594
Mistake in Star Wars III
In Star Wars Episode II, in the fight between Anakin/Obi-Wan and Count Dooku, Anakin's arm is cut off well above the elbow. The first time we see the arm in Star Wars III, in the apartment of Anakin and Padme, the mechanical arm ends just under the elbow, meaning his elbow must have somehow grown back...

12th June 2005 9:33  #65

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Well...you see...The Force works in mysterious ways...

22nd June 2005 0:58  #66

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
It was the midichlorians Wink

22nd June 2005 6:15  #67

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Actually, the pre-rebelion surgery-bots kind of sucked...

26th June 2005 6:51  #68

Keith Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 221
sound
Well I guess the sound was half broke.  To bad I didn't make it to another theater.  Thats 3/4 of this movie...the rest is something called acting.

26th June 2005 20:03  #69

Keith Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 221
ok
I wasn't overly thrilled.  Of course I was disappointed with the theatre sound.  That wasn't a good start for me to enjoy it anyway.  The acting was a little better than the last one, but way off par for a George Lucas movie imo.  Can't he get good actors anymore?  I guess he has lowered his standards.

27th June 2005 0:40  #70

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
You really can't blame the actors, it's really all about Lucas' direction and the takes he picks. He wants either wooden or over the top, not good. It's all part of his "pretending these movies were made in the 1930's" thing. Personally I though Ian McD was great as Palpitine.

27th June 2005 2:31  #71

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,115 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I thought he was good as Palpatine, but waaaay over the top as Sidious. I watched it again last night though, and I have to say it was better the fourth time. As with TPM and AOTC I am able to look past the bits I didn't like and just enjoy the bits I did. It's still massively flawed as a piece of credible cinema, but as silly entertainment it's not half bad.

I still don't put any of the prequels in the same league as the original films, because they are just so much more human. I know the acting isn't Oscar-worthy, but it's far more believable from virtually every member of the cast.

Hammill is much better than Christensen. Fisher is better than Portman. Billy-Dee Williams is better than Sam Jackson. Guinness is better than McGregor. McDiarmid is better than himself Wink Yoda's vocal performance is much better in the OT. We also have Han to mix things up.

I'm never gonna see them as one big story. They are separate entities made decades apart - how could the new films capture the spirit of the old ones? The reason for their failings came to me the other night while listening to Lucas on one of the commentary tracks. He kept going on about how everything had to further the plot. Well in the OT that was pretty much true, but in the SEs and prequels there is far too much eye-candy that does nothing to further anything (the new Mos Eisley, CGI Jabba, the Jedi Rocks song, all of the dumb droid comedy moments etc.).

Nowadays Lucas seems to be so caught up in telling 'his' story that he doesn't care how well it's told. He thinks that if it's on the page it should just translate to the screen if he throws enough money and CGI at it - actors be dammed. And yes, I've also read Christensen's comments about Lucas choosing to use what he considered to be his worst takes of certain scenes. These comments related to AOTC, but at the end of ROTS his intonations and emphasis on certain words is all wrong. The same goes for McGregor and the others (although to a lesser extent).

Watching the films as objectively as I can I would probably now rate them something like this in their current incarnations:

TPM - 5/10
AOTC - 6/10
ROTS - 7/10
ANH - 8/10 (used to be 9/10 before all the useless bits added from the SE onwards)
TESB - 9/10 (not only my favourite SW movie, but one of my favourites films full stop)
ROTJ - 7/10 (used to be 8/10 before all the CGI crap)

27th June 2005 3:13  #72

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I don't know Chris...Hamill was pretty bad...
Other than honestly loving the hell out of the Sidious performance, I agree with you man. The prequels did have one very important thing that the originals didn't...Dracula!!

It's funny, I often feel I'm defending the prequels to you, but in the end our final scores are roughly the same.

27th June 2005 3:28  #73

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,115 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
He was nowhere near as bad as Christensen, and at least his character showed some development over the three films. Anakin goes from annoying little boy, to annoying, sulky teenager, to annoying, sulky, petulant, brooding twenty-something...

As for Dracula... Well, the originals had Van Helsing Wink There's no point in defending the prequels to me anyway. I'm never going to think that they're great cinema. I don't really think that the originals are great cinema (except for Empire), but they have lot more charm than the prequels.

27th June 2005 5:24  #74

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
High five Chris, I agree 85%.  If only Lucas would've found a role for Donald Plesance and Barbara Steele, it could've been an allstar Hammer reunion. I'll just pretend they were Boba Fett and Bib Fortuna respectively.

And thank you for not spelling 'owned' with a 'p'. That's getting old. Now that I think about it, that was my biggest problem with ROTS, according to the official website, Dukoo is suppose to be the third strongest dueler in the galaxy, behind Yoda and Sidious. It should've taken Anikan a little more effort to kill him, especially since I don't think he was throwing the fight like Sidious was against Windu.

27th June 2005 15:34  #75

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,115 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
That whole Sidious/Windu thing bugged me. Apparently the reason that it looks like Mace beat him in the duel is that originally Anakin was present the whole time, so it made sense for Palpatine to let Mace get the better of him. In the film as it is, Palpatine just appears lucky that Anakin walked in when he did. Originally he fought with Anakin's blade, which is why he appears to have two lightsabers. They used CGI to cover up Anakin's saber the best they could. All of this is from a web chat with Pablo Helman.

Where on the official site does it mention the strongest lightsaber duellists? Oh, and I agree, the Dooku scene was waaaay too short considering how easily he beat them before. It also makes no sense that Dooku can kick Obi-Wan's arse, but Anakin - who kills Dooku - then goes on to lose a duel to him...

27th June 2005 19:13  #76

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Actually, I re-read and I misquoted, kind of. It was under Windu's profile that it mentions the only Jedis to defeat him in lightsaber combat were Dukoo and Yoda, so I guessed that made Dukoo number three, not counting the ever improving Vader.

I like the way the scene plays out in the movie, it makes Anikan's choice slightly more beleivable. I wish that Lucas would've made Palp's true intent slightly more clear, but I think the second he reveals that he still had plenty of power to blow Windu out the window it's pretty clear that he was faking for Anikan's benifit.

I really like the stereo effects on Sidius' voice as he uses every ounce of his dark side influence on Anikan.

27th June 2005 20:02  #77

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,115 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I guess the reason it's not clear is because they just used a fair portion of the footage from the original duel in which it was clear that Palpatine threw the fight (because Anakin was actually there, watching him). In the new version it's obvious that he still has a lot of power, but less obvious why he let Windu kick him in the gob and almost cleave him in two.

27th June 2005 23:23  #78

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Yeah, the Gob kick was not something he should've allowed. I think that changing the scene was good for Anikan's character, but ultimately confusing for Palp's. Interesting that they didn't just reshoot it. I guess that all goes along with Lucas' hatred of actually being on set.

What did you think about the scarring/melting face? I was under the impression that he simply used the fight as an excuse to drop his facade, I'm pretty sure he was always old and ugly.

27th June 2005 23:40  #79

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,115 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I think McDiarmid has stated that his interpretation of things is that it is Palpatine's 'real' face, and that the kindly Chancellor was just a mask.

8th September 2005 12:21  #80

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,115 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
True to form, I just heard from Fox's PR company that there will be no check discs for the region two release of ROTS. Fox's reasons? 'Piracy concerns'. What a load of bollocks.

Region one reviewers will still get check discs, so what's to stop them ripping it and spreading it around the Internet? In fact, it'll probably be leaked from Fox/Lucasfilm before then anyway - look at what happened with the trilogy boxed set.

9th September 2005 0:47  #81

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,468 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Wait? We get R1 check discs? I bet someone already laid claim to that, huh?

9th September 2005 15:44  #82

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,115 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I was speaking collectively. There are a lot of early reviews for films in R1 that don't even get check discs in R2. It seems to be much harder to convince them to supply discs. There were none for the Star Wars trilogy, yet R1 sites covered it well in advance of release.

Have these people never heard of the Internet? If it's copied in one region it'll be in another within a few hours.
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