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What movie actors movies do you avoid?

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6th March 2006 14:32  #31

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: Sally Struthers? LOL Isn'ty that seeking donations for charitable purposes. What celebrities attacked Bill Clinton? PLEASE you have to do better than that to make a relevant point.

Charlton Heston.  (Which by the way, I like Charlton Heston as an actor.  I enjoy almost all of his films and was delighted when he took a bit part in Brannagh's Hamlet; however, I despise the man.)

Also, thanks Gabe.  You highlighted what I actually wanted to say.

Also, just wanted to say, isn't this a free country where anyone can speak their minds about politics?  Should we persecute people because they do not believe in the policies of the president or any other elected official?  Is this not one of the guarantees of our Constitution?

Also, you cannot dismiss celebrities like Reagan and Schwartzenegger from using their status to speak out for the right just because they are in politics.  How else would they have gotten where they were without their celebrity status!?!

6th March 2006 20:10  #32

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,488 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I don't know if I'd count Reagan in that equation, he was never a popular (or good) actor.

And Aaron, before you respond, and I know you will, I just want to be clear that I'm not trying to gang up on you or anything, just responding to the boards.

6th March 2006 20:28  #33

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Gabe Powers wrote: I don't know if I'd count Reagan in that equation, he was never a popular (or good) actor.

Are you sure about the popular thing Gabe?  Granted, it was before my time, but I thought he was at least well known.

6th March 2006 22:28  #34

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,488 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Not really, he had the Gipper thing, but that was really made popular after his election, and Bedtime for Bonzo was used as a joke by his ditractors. My democrat father had a poster in his workshop of Ron hocking some kind of uncreasable collered shirt. It was hard for me to understand why the President of the United States would make this ad, but I was young and didn't grasp the idea of a President being an actor earlier in life. It was too out there for me at the time.


I wonder if dad still has that, it's probably worth something...

9th March 2006 19:11  #35

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Thandie Newton. What's that about? I haven't seen Crash but she either got very good very fast (as an actress) since MI2 or I really missed a memo somewhere.

9th March 2006 20:51  #36

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Intergalactic Ponce wrote: Thandie Newton. What's that about? I haven't seen Crash but she either got very good very fast (as an actress) since MI2 or I really missed a memo somewhere.

Newton does an admirable job here.  I don't think she will ever be mistaken for a great actress, but she can be tolerable.

10th March 2006 3:34  #37

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
I am going to avoid going any farther down this political road. The fact is that Hollywood's political agenda has become blatantly "in-your-face." You people can do with your money what you want. I will try on a personal level to hurt them economically. Its the only thing those greedy b*****ds understand.

10th March 2006 8:58  #38

floyd dylan Banned Join Date: April 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 913
What is wrong with highlighting racism, and have a film that shows two homosexuals in a positive light.

There's no political agenda in either films other than, if you talk about the two Clooney movies, or Micheal Moore documentaries then it is fair to say that those movies have a political agenda.

There have been thousands of films have been made that have highlighted homosexuality and racism way way way before Brokeback and Crash.

So trying to hurt who ever it is you are trying to hurt economically means that you are willing to turn your back on certain issues or a persons sexual preference.

10th March 2006 15:29  #39

Donnie_Darko Banned Join Date: January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 352
floyd dylan wrote: What is wrong with highlighting racism, and have a film that shows two homosexuals in a positive light.

There's no political agenda in either films other than, if you talk about the two Clooney movies, or Micheal Moore documentaries then it is fair to say that those movies have a political agenda.

There have been thousands of films have been made that have highlighted homosexuality and racism way way way before Brokeback and Crash.

So trying to hurt who ever it is you are trying to hurt economically means that you are willing to turn your back on certain issues or a persons sexual preference.


well if you don't want to see political films then DON'T see films AT ALL

10th March 2006 19:47  #40

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,488 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
floyd dylan wrote: What is wrong with highlighting racism, and have a film that shows two homosexuals in a positive light.

There's no political agenda in either films other than, if you talk about the two Clooney movies, or Micheal Moore documentaries then it is fair to say that those movies have a political agenda.

There have been thousands of films have been made that have highlighted homosexuality and racism way way way before Brokeback and Crash.

So trying to hurt who ever it is you are trying to hurt economically means that you are willing to turn your back on certain issues or a persons sexual preference.


Who are you talking too? Did this end up in the wrong thread?

10th March 2006 21:55  #41

floyd dylan Banned Join Date: April 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 913
Gabe Powers wrote: Who are you talking too? Did this end up in the wrong thread?

I was actually replying to Schneidermator's message.

10th March 2006 22:14  #42

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,488 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Ah. You know, he actually liked Brokeback Mountain.

10th March 2006 23:23  #43

John Oaks Senior Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 951
Worst Nightmare wrote: Dare I say it but Anthony Anderson - a poor comic gone wrong....
He's great in The Shield though.
Anyways the actor I always avoid is Russell Crowe. I hate that fudger.

11th March 2006 3:13  #44

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Gabe Powers wrote: Ah. You know, he actually liked Brokeback Mountain.

Thanks for pointing that out Gabe. I gave up trying to understand Floyd Dylan's posts awhile ago.

11th March 2006 3:27  #45

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: I am going to avoid going any farther down this political road. The fact is that Hollywood's political agenda has become blatantly "in-your-face." You people can do with your money what you want.

As for someone that works in Hollywood let me tell you theonly "Agenda" Hollywood has is to make money. If they can make money on a gay comboy movie THEY will make it!    If Hollywood can make money on a movie about the Klan that will make that!  There is no "Left wing agenda".  

11th March 2006 3:27  #46

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: I am going to avoid going any farther down this political road. The fact is that Hollywood's political agenda has become blatantly "in-your-face." You people can do with your money what you want.

As for someone that works in Hollywood let me tell you the only "Agenda" Hollywood has is to make money. If a studio think they can make money on a gay comboy movie THEY will make it!    If Hollywood can make money on a movie about the Klan that will make that!  There is no "Left wing agenda".  In fact I can't recall every going into a movie saying "Whats are left wing movie are making now?"    

11th March 2006 8:17  #47

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,488 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I think that there can be an agenda, and that Aaron was never refering to the gay cowboy movie, or any particular movie at all, he was refering more to the actions of individual actors on their own time, actions which make him want to aviod those particular actor's films. You are correct that the vast majority of Hollywood types are in it for the money, but for the most part an artist's message can make it through. Sometimes films with a message can be madeby  a bigwig lefty like George Lucas who finances his own work, or they cost a small enough ammount that a studio is willing to take a chance on the off chance that they'll get some award nominations.

I don't agree with Aaron, and think that for the most part, an artists work speaks for itself, but a great many readers seem to be misunderstanding him, which is the kind of thing that leads to arguments rather than discussion. Aaron, thank you for avoiding the political track before it got out of hand.

11th March 2006 14:33  #48

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
stanton heck wrote: ...There is no "Left wing agenda".  In fact I can't recall every going into a movie saying "Whats are left wing movie are making now?"    

You are either a fool or incredibly naive.

11th March 2006 14:49  #49

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
I have watched enough television and film over the years and witnessed enough of the pablum being fed to us that I could produce quite a long list of films or television programs that generally paint liberals or democrats as benevolent leaders while the republicans are ignorant, scheming and venal individuals only looking for personal gain.  I could point to films like "The Contender" or television dramas like "The American President," or comedy shows like "Saturday Night Live" to easily make my point. There is so much I can document that sometimes you have to realize who your audience is and how fruitless the analysis would be. You are either a fool or incredibly naive to say there is no agenda.

11th March 2006 16:18  #50

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: stanton heck wrote: ...There is no "Left wing agenda".  In fact I can't recall every going into a movie saying "Whats are left wing movie are making now?"    

You are either a fool or incredibly naive.


Or maybe you are Aaron.  Stanton is more right than wrong here.  Hollywood cares more for money than for anything else.  If they thought they could make money off of right wing movies, they would do so in a minute.  They are still trying to find a way to duplicate the success of Passion of the Christ.  But other than that movie, you only have to look at the box office returns of other religious themed movies lately to know why they don't make more of them.

Aaron Schneiderman wrote: I have watched enough television and film over the years and witnessed enough of the pablum being fed to us that I could produce quite a long list of films or television programs that generally paint liberals or democrats as benevolent leaders while the republicans are ignorant, scheming and venal individuals only looking for personal gain.

Or maybe you read your own agenda into everything that you see.  Come on, the American President as a political statement.  You have to be kidding me.  SNL has made fun of every sitting president since it went on the air.

11th March 2006 19:43  #51

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Some people just can't see the forest for the trees.

11th March 2006 23:30  #52

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,488 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: ...while the republicans are ignorant, scheming and venal individuals only looking for personal gain.

Well aren't they? Wink
Seriously though, Democrates are seen as laid back womanizers when it comes to sterotypes. Out of curiosity, Aaron, did you ever see Trey Parker and Matt Stone's short lived sit-com "That's My Bush"? I don't really want to discuss it's validity or anything, but it almost backs up your point, though instead of a schemer, Bush is portrayed as a sort of innocent child, Rove is the jerk of the series. I think it only lasted like 5 episodes or something, but it was actually pretty funny because they just put Bush and his family in painfully stereotypical sit-com situations.

12th March 2006 1:30  #53

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Gabe, I am familiar with that short-lived series. If that wasn't transparent I don't what is... As far as Democrats being portrayed as womanizers, I would respectfully have to differ with you. The media have been apologists when it comes to the excellent adventures of of Bill (Clinton) & Ted (Kennedy) the philanderers. However, God forbid a Republican be caught doing anything less than honorable when it comes to matters of the a-hem, "heart." They are merely forced to resign.

12th March 2006 3:07  #54

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,488 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I was refering to the stereotypes.

One thing you have to give Matt Stone and Trey Parker is that they are equal oppertunity kind of guys, they give the left and right pretty even slatherings, depending mostly on whose in the spotlight at the moment. I actually see the South Park movie as a pretty wicked indictment of late '90s "liberal" censorship overdrive.

12th March 2006 13:33  #55

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: and witnessed enough of the pablum being fed to us

Pablum.

I love Aaron. He always forces me to reach for the dictionary when I read his posts. It's good to expand the vocabulary.

13th March 2006 0:45  #56

Wolfmother Member Join Date: November 2003 Location: United States Posts: 159
Pauly Shore.

13th March 2006 14:20  #57

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: Some people just can't see the forest for the trees.

I'd definitely put you in that group.

13th March 2006 19:35  #58

floyd dylan Banned Join Date: April 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 913
Adrian wrote: I'd definitely put you in that group.

lol

14th March 2006 14:01  #59

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Adrian wrote: Aaron Schneiderman wrote: Some people just can't see the forest for the trees.

I'd definitely put you in that group.


I bet it took you all of 5 seconds to come up with that response. Thank you for continuing to make me look good. Brilliant!

14th March 2006 16:32  #60

floyd dylan Banned Join Date: April 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 913
At least his reply had some wit, I bet it's really difficult for you to type when your head is wedged up your arse.
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