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10th February 2006 22:38  #1

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
What movie do you think should of Won Best Picture
1977 "Close Encounters" over "Annie Hall"
1980 "Ragging Bull" or "Elephant Man" over "Ordinary People"
1990 "Goodfellas" over "Dances with wolves"
1994 "Pulp Fiction" over "Forrest Gump"
1997 "LA Confidential" over "Titanic"
1998 "Saving Private Ryan" over "Shakespear in Love"

10th February 2006 23:03  #2

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
1939 "Wizard of Oz" over "Gone With the Wind"
1941 "Citizen Kane" over "How Green Was My Valley"
1964 "Dr. Strangelove" over "My Fair Lady"
1971 "A Clockwork Orange" over "The French Connection"
1977 Either "Star Wars IV" or "Close Encounters"
1981 "Raiders of the Lost Ark" over "Chariots of Fire"
1982 "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial" over "Ghandi"
1991 "Beauty and the Beast" over "Silence of the Lambs"
1995 "Apollo 13" over "Braveheart"
2004 "The Aviator" over "Million Dollar Baby"

I agree with "Saving Private Ryan", robbed...
And if I may...
2005 "Munich" over "Brokeback Mountain"

10th February 2006 23:04  #3

captmarvel Member Join Date: January 2006 Location: United States Posts: 101
I definitely think that E.T. should have won the Best Picture Oscar in 1980 over Gandhi.  The year that I think was the most frustrating was 2000, the year that Gladiator won Best Picture, when 3 very good films weren't even nominated; High Fidelity, The Legend of Bagger Vance and The Wonder Boys.  

10th February 2006 23:05  #4

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,473 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Those are some pretty popular picks there. I'd say Star Wars over Close Encounters, and I still say Pulp Fiction is only a third of a good film, Forest Gump may not have diserved it, there had to be something else.

11th February 2006 0:29  #5

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
you know I would have to say "Tootsie" over "Ghandi" or "Victor/Victoria" over "Ghnadi"

11th February 2006 0:49  #6

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,473 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Ok, now I'm curious and I'm looking into it from 1970 to the present, these are my favorites (based on what was nominated and what I have in my collection, I'm sure I missed quite a bit, and I left the one's I agreed with totally blank:
1971: French Connection and Clockwork Orange are a tie for me
1973: Serpico
1974: Chinatown slightly over Godfather 2
1975: This was a tough year, Jaws, Cuckoo's Nest and Dog Day Afternoon? Tough call.
1976: Taxi Driver leaps and bounds over Rocky
1977: Star Wars over Annie Hall, Suspiria as an alternate choice.
1978: Dawn of the Dead
1979: Alien
1980: Raging Bull or Empire Strikes Back as an alternate
1981: Raiders of the Lost Ark
1982: ET
1983: Right Stuff
1984: Terminator, Repo Man or Ghostbusters
1985: Brazil
1986: The Fly
1987: Robocop
1988: Akira
1989: The Abyss (I guess)
1990: Goodfellas. of course
1993: Schindler's List eeks out The Nightmare Before Xmas
1994: Heavenly Creatures
1995: City of Lost Children, Dead Man, or Seven
1996: Trainspotting or Fargo
1997: Boogie Nights
1998: Rushmore or Saving Private Ryan
1999: Fight Club
2000: Requiem for a Dream or Crouching Tiger
2001: Fellowship of the Ring
2002: Close call between The Two Towers, Spirited Away and City of God
2003: Absolute tie between The Return of the King and Oldboy, Kill Bill 1 honorable mention
2004: Kill Bill 2 or The Incredables

11th February 2006 0:51  #7

Donnie_Darko Banned Join Date: January 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 352
Gabe Powers wrote: Ok, now I'm curious and I'm looking into it from 1970 to the present, these are my favorites (based on what was nominated and what I have in my collection, I'm sure I missed quite a bit, and I left the one's I agreed with totally blank:
1971: French Connection and Clockwork Orange are a tie for me
1973: Serpico
1974: Chinatown slightly over Godfather 2
1975: This was a tough year, Jaws, Cuckoo's Nest and Dog Day Afternoon? Tough call.
1976: Taxi Driver leaps and bounds over Rocky
1977: Star Wars over Annie Hall, Suspiria as an alternate choice.
1978: Dawn of the Dead
1979: Alien
1980: Raging Bull or Empire Strikes Back as an alternate
1981: Raiders of the Lost Ark
1982: ET
1983: Right Stuff
1984: Terminator, Repo Man or Ghostbusters
1985: Brazil
1986: The Fly
1987: Robocop
1988: Akira
1989: The Abyss (I guess)
1990: Goodfellas. of course
1993: Schindler's List eeks out The Nightmare Before Xmas
1994: Heavenly Creatures
1995: City of Lost Children, Dead Man, or Seven
1996: Trainspotting or Fargo
1997: Boogie Nights
1998: Rushmore or Saving Private Ryan
1999: Fight Club
2000: Requiem for a Dream or Crouching Tiger
2001: Fellowship of the Ring
2002: Close call between The Two Towers, Spirited Away and City of God
2003: Absolute tie between The Return of the King and Oldboy, Kill Bill 1 honorable mention
2004: Kill Bill 2 or The Incredables



Good somebody said Brazil
one of my alltime favs

11th February 2006 3:52  #8

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
You guys have to be kidding about 1977.  While Close Encounters and Star Wars are popular choices, they are in now way better than Annie Hall.

And Beauty and the Beast over Silence of the Lambs?!??!?  Silence of the Lambs has to be one of the best movies ever made in my life time.  Beauty and the Beasy is highly overrated.

11th February 2006 7:06  #9

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,473 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I'm pretty sure none of us are kidding, but I'll ask around. Any of you guys kidding? Anyone?


No, I think we're all pretty serious about our opinions on this matter.

11th February 2006 17:45  #10

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
not me

11th February 2006 19:12  #11

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Or me, "Beauty and the Beast" was a great movie, and without an animated category back then, it still was better. "Silence of the Lambs" is a very good movie, but unless they could've made it a tie, my vote goes to "Beauty and the Beast".
"Annie Hall" was good, but it wasn't as revolutionary in film as "Star Wars IV" or "Close Encounters" was.
Also, are we allowed to put in films that weren't nominated?

11th February 2006 20:46  #12

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I pre-fer on what was nominated.  

11th February 2006 21:03  #13

rob murray Member Join Date: November 2004 Location: United States Posts: 477
hell 98 should have been The Thin Red Line

11th February 2006 21:55  #14

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Gabe Powers wrote: Those are some pretty popular picks there. I'd say Star Wars over Close Encounters, and I still say Pulp Fiction is only a third of a good film, Forest Gump may not have diserved it, there had to be something else.

"The Shawshank Redemption" is something else

11th February 2006 23:59  #15

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,473 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Yes, but I've always though that was an overrated film as well. I stick by my choice to give it to Boogie Nights.

12th February 2006 1:01  #16

James Tully Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 436
Shawshank redemption for 1994 definitely. That was the year I lost my faith in Oscars.

Backed up by Titanic beating L.A. Confidential! (actually Titanic winning anything!)

12th February 2006 2:32  #17

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
James Tully wrote: Shawshank redemption for 1994 definitely. That was the year I lost my faith in Oscars.


Me too.  All of the other movies nominated were better than Forrest Gump.

12th February 2006 2:35  #18

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: Or me, "Beauty and the Beast" was a great movie, and without an animated category back then, it still was better. "Silence of the Lambs" is a very good movie, but unless they could've made it a tie, my vote goes to "Beauty and the Beast".
"Annie Hall" was good, but it wasn't as revolutionary in film as "Star Wars IV" or "Close Encounters" was.
Also, are we allowed to put in films that weren't nominated?


Actually, neither Star Wars or Close Encounters is really as revolutionary as people make them out to people.  Star Wars stole the basic plot outline of Hidden Fortress and was bascially a western in space.  Besides the award is for best movie, not necessarily revolutionary.  There are some revolutionary movies that weren't necessarily good movies.

I'm a huge Star Wars fan, growing up with it, but there is no way as a piece of art that it comes close to Annie Hall.

12th February 2006 2:53  #19

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
But sometimes the Academy goes that way. "Gone with the Wind" is only revered so much because they said "Damn" in it (IMO).

12th February 2006 21:08  #20

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,473 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
Adrian, the thing that made Star Wars revolutionary was not it's originality, but its post-modern sensabilities. It's the first major mainstream film that was created strictly in reference to other films, which was something the underground scene had been doing for years. Annie Hall was also post-modern and referencial, but to more modern and Western film movements. Both pictures are true works of art, one just happened to also be "fun" enough that its artistic ambition was overlooked in favor of its spectacle, which in the end, was what made it revolutionary, at least in the eyes of modern Hollywood blockbusters.

13th February 2006 5:44  #21

captmarvel Member Join Date: January 2006 Location: United States Posts: 101
Referring to several posts up, I lost my faith in the Oscars the year Sophia Loren won the lifetime achievement award.

20th February 2006 18:06  #22

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
"Secrets and Lies" over "The Englsih Patient"

25th February 2006 8:46  #23

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
BEST PICTURE WINNER / ROBBED OF AN OSCAR

1951 -- AN AMERICAN IN PARIS / A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE
1965 -- THE SOUND OF MUSIC / DR. ZHIVAGO
1968 -- OLIVER! / THE LION IN WINTER
1971 -- THE FRENCH CONNECTION / A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
1976 -- ROCKY / TAXI DRIVER
1977 -- ANNIE HALL / STAR WARS
1979 -- KRAMER VS. KRAMER / APOCALYPSE NOW
1980 -- ORDINARY PEOPLE / RAGING BULL
1981 -- CHARIOTS OF FIRE / RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK
1982 -- GANDHI / E.T. THE EXTRA TERRESTRIAL
1983 -- TERMS OF ENDEARMENT / THE RIGHT STUFF
1985 -- OUT OF AFRICA / THE COLOR PURPLE
1989 -- DRIVING MISS DAISY / DEAD POETS SOCIETY
1998 -- SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE / SAVING PRIVATE RYAN
1999 -- AMERICAN BEAUTY / THE SIXTH SENSE
2001 -- A BEAUTIFUL MIND / THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING
2003 -- THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING / MYSTIC RIVER

25th February 2006 9:27  #24

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,473 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I was with you up untill Mystic River, I really hated that film. I'm also not a very big fan of Dead Poets Society, but it is better than Miss Daisy, my choice stands with the Abyss, for now.

Back in 1999 I totally agreed with the choice of American Beauty for best picture, but the years have not been kind to the film, and though I still think it's pretty great, it really doesn't have the staying power of so many other films released that year (Fight Club, Magnolia, Three Kings, Sixth Sense, Being John Malkovich, Ravenous, etc, etc.).

25th February 2006 18:10  #25

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
You know what Gabe, I forgot about "Magnolia." That should have been a Best Picture win instead of American Beauty.

26th February 2006 1:43  #26

floyd dylan Banned Join Date: April 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 913
Try telling that to Kevin Smith.

26th February 2006 2:25  #27

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
Kevin Smith made coasters out of his Magnolia DVD. (Can't blame him)  I also have to day that in 1950 "Sunset Blvd." should of won over "All about Eve"

26th February 2006 9:31  #28

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,473 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I don't understand Kevin Smith's dislike for Magnolia. It verges on geeky hyperbol, which as a respected member of filmmaking society, he should really be above...that or the rumors themselves are fanboy hyperbol.

26th February 2006 13:36  #29

floyd dylan Banned Join Date: April 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 913
hyperbol?  Does that word even exist?

There is a word called a hyperbola which means an open curve formed by a plane that cuts the base of a right circular cone

27th February 2006 15:40  #30

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
floyd dylan wrote: hyperbol?  Does that word even exist?

There is a word called a hyperbola which means an open curve formed by a plane that cuts the base of a right circular cone


He left off the trailing E.  Hyperbole is definitely a word.
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