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10th August 2006 7:21  #1

Manda of Mu Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 458
Wheres Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair Edition?
What ever happened to the 'Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair Edition'?

Last I heard was back when Vol. 2 came out on DVD that QT and co. were hard at work on a version of Kill Bill that included Vol. 1 and 2 as one film in addition to adding the footage that was cut or altered for the US release (such as the uncut battle at the House of Leaves and in full color, not B&W).

I heard that there were some legal trouble regarding Miramax's split with Disney over who can legally release the film, Miramax, Disney, or the Weinstein Co. which was the cause of the delay, but in an interview I read with QT about a year ago, he stated that Miramax is getting together with the Weinstein Co. to recut the film and then put it back in theaters for a limited run, then onto DVD. But since that it has gone silent.

Anyone hear anything new about this? I have been fighting the urge to get the Japanese R2 versions because I know as soon as I do, then the DVD will be announced, I have that kind of luck  and I REALLY don't want to triple dip (I already have the R1s).

Here is part of the interview I found on Google from last year
http://tinyurl.com/3j2kf

10th August 2006 7:35  #2

Manda of Mu Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 458
*I would have edited this in but I couldn't see the option

Miramax and the Weinsteins are fighting over who owns the rights, Disney has nothing to do with it.

10th August 2006 11:20  #3

Jaybee79 Member Join Date: December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 84
Disney owns Miramax so they would have some sort of involvement with this

10th August 2006 14:02  #4

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
I feel information on this is really varied - one group telling us this year, another next year - I don't know who to believe.

I have no idea the answer to your question but I am also gagging for it as I havent yet bought any version as he hinted at this way back at release time.

Can't wait for it - although I actually like the Crazy 88 battle in Black & White, think its rather cool looking.

10th August 2006 16:53  #5

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
stanton heck wrote:
The Kill Bill super-editon is coming.  This will get a limited release before it hits DVD.  It might get its debut athe Canns but who knows.  Since theatre screens are booked solid in the Summer I wouldn't look for this to hit the movie screens until Late August/September.  The DVD will be released around mid-October.  They will want to release it before the Summer movies.


What would the "Whole Bloody Affair" actually be though? Just MORE violence? I thought the current ones that I own had enough violence to sustain its story, if it's just splatters of blood and more stuff to make it "cool" then what's the point? I watched both one after the other, sure I had to get up and change the disc, but what's the difference? If it's edited together to be one big movie it'll still probably be on two discs for quality reasons. Is that what this release will most probably be?

10th August 2006 17:08  #6

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
The rumour has it, Cheddar, that it would actually be a different cut of the 4 hour movie - There would be less reminders needed in Vol 2 so I believe these would be cut. There was also a tale that the order of some scenes may be changed.

Tis all rumour mill though.

10th August 2006 17:18  #7

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
Kozinski wrote: The rumour has it, Cheddar, that it would actually be a different cut of the 4 hour movie - There would be less reminders needed in Vol 2 so I believe these would be cut. There was also a tale that the order of some scenes may be changed.

Tis all rumour mill though.


Ah I see, like in chronological order... Sounds interesting to say the least. Although I doubt I'd buy it, the reminders are minor and didn't bother me and I like it how it was presented first time around. This may end up being a "Star Wars" thing where everyone looks forward to it, but then ends up saying "Hey! Beatrix shot first!" type thing. Although I don't expect that from Tarantino.

I agree with you that the Crazy 88 sequence is better looking in the "censored" black and white.

10th August 2006 17:27  #8

Intergalactic Ponce Member Join Date: April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,151
In theory though one long version of Kill Bill would be inferior to having Vols 1 and 2, if QT and Miramax were to be believed at the time of release.

I thought Harvey Weinstein said that there was so much good stuff that QT had shot it was a shame to lose it editing it down for one film. So, based on that, they sold us the idea that two volumes was the best way to go.

At the time most people didn't buy this and thought it was just a cynical cash grab whereby Miramax could get fans to pay twice for what was originally conceived as one film.

I was one of those people and was initially unimpressed with Vol 1 on it's theatrical release. So much so, that I didn't bother with Vol 2 when it came out. I then bought and watched 1 and 2 on DVD and have come to appreciate them more over time as two seperate volumes. They are both stylistically different yet they compliment each other.

I really can't see that when the films becomes one that it will improve on what has gone before or have any added value other than that of a curiosity to those who would wish to compare the two versions and study them.

I will of course be buying this flabby DVD boxset when it finally becomes available as I am one of those aforementioned sad people.

14th August 2006 15:14  #9

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
You're not sad if you buy a re-release. "Kill Bill" is a film where if there's a different cut then you see it/buy it (not to mention it's good so there's another reason right there). There's been one "tame" version and if this one lets the dogs out of the gates why wouldn't you buy it?

I have "Superman II" on DVD already, but I will be getting the new version (Donner Cut) when it is released. Perhaps that is different being Superman and all, but still, it is essentially the same thing and again, No it's not sad.

Personally, I won't be buying. But that's because I do already have them and am content with that and I'm not that big a Tarantino fan.

15th August 2006 9:15  #10

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
The real reason, supposedly, that the film became split in two was as you say - they didn't want Tarantino to cut it. However, Tarantino wanted to release it as one 4hour or so movie, which Miramax didn't want so they gave him an option of cutting it or splitting it. He chose the latter, obviously.

I'm really hoping this cut makes it to DVD. I was lucky enough to attend a Q&A with David Carradine a few months back, no mention was made of this DVD, but he insisted that this was meant to be one film. He also couldn't understand anyone in the Scottish audience. Mad.

15th August 2006 18:41  #11

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I think they would of sold more "Kill Bill: The whole Bloddy Afair" if they did this 2 years ago.  Now nobody seems to care.

16th August 2006 15:45  #12

Cheddar J. Cheese Member Join Date: October 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,492
People do still care, if they didn't, they wouldn't be starting threads on the matter. Although I do understand what you mean.

21st August 2006 8:45  #13

JamesTaylor Member Join Date: March 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 51
It's funny, I just found out that the first installment will be on TV this Sunday night, here in Australia. I'll probably have more to contribute to this thread after I've viewed it, and after I've seen the second volume.
-James

21st August 2006 22:38  #14

DarthElektra Member Join Date: February 2006 Location: United States Posts: 97
Dang, I wish there was some news on tis,I own both dvds but I want the whole bloody affair!

29th August 2006 23:20  #15

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
I just think they would of sold more if they did the "Whole Bloddy Affair" 2 years ago.  

still no news.  It looks like next year if were lucky

6th September 2006 14:09  #16

demiscy Member Join Date: April 2006 Location: Cyprus Posts: 589
MAYBE this will be released on an anniversary date..

9th September 2006 6:42  #17

edgcrshr Member Join Date: September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1
I thought he was going to go back and work on that after he was done with Inglorious B*****ds, but I could be wrong.

9th September 2006 15:04  #18

Jonathan Bennett Member Join Date: March 2005 Location: United States Posts: 600 Send a message via AIM to Jonathan Bennett Send a message via MSN to Jonathan Bennett Send a message via Yahoo to Jonathan Bennett Send a message via Google to Jonathan Bennett
Inglorious B*****ds was cancelled I think, but I saw him speak at comic-con, although he didn't mention anything about KB: TWBA, I bet he'll do it once he's finished post-production on Grindhouse.

9th September 2006 17:30  #19

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
Nope Inglorious B*****ds isn't cancelled. Accordin to IMDb, it says that this will be QT's followup.

9th September 2006 19:38  #20

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
well an anniversary edition will have the whole bloddy affair or it might make a debut late 2007

21st September 2006 12:30  #21

snowman08 Member Join Date: December 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 207
My thoughts/speculations are in a deal with Miramax they keep quiet about TWBA for a few years letting the Blu Ray sales rise then release the new cut at cinemas then DVD & Blu Ray. I mean if you were an early HD adopter and you knew TWBA was coming you'd wait but with no date it's bound to encourage sales, same for DVDs, plenty of fans have been holding out for this.

Luckily I picked up the Jap Cut and although it cost a bomb was worth it as I've seen it what 4 times so far & TWBA is still nowhere to be seen. The Jap Cut is MILES better than the US/UK edit, I can't recommend getting it enough. plus it has the most KB Vol 1 extras.

As for TWBA I'm hoping they really mix up the time line making it gel rather than 2 distinc movies. Anyway whose to say TWBA will be a better cut? those Jap Vol 1 dvds could end up being the best way to see Kill Bill? what might get cut out? as someone said it may turn into a "hans/gredo shot first scenerio".

stanton heck wrote: well an anniversary edition will have the whole bloddy affair or it might make a debut late 2007

maybe a 5th anniversary will see a SE with both Vol 1& 2 together and a 3rd disc with extras before TWBA is released? who knows?

21st September 2006 14:27  #22

ZoomBoy Member Join Date: August 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 35
Unless the movie is pasted together for some sort of R1 release, my Japanese Vol 1 and Vol2 giftsets are amazing. I just love it, I watched it two nights ago and the movie is miles better than what we have released over here.

13th April 2007 0:47  #23

stanton heck Member Join Date: June 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,098
NO news

13th April 2007 8:54  #24

Kozinski Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 235
Man, I want this so bad. I loved the movie and want to see as a one-er!

15th April 2007 21:26  #25

darth raph Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 142
It seems to me that April 1 is basically a groundhog day with this! Absolute joke! It is not even the usual case that it is only the r2 that is getting the bum deal but it is all the regions ie 1,2 and 4! I sent a few emails to Miramax but as you all know the studios treat news on the home entertainment front like they are the CIA or M16!

15th April 2007 22:38  #26

Karl Member Join Date: August 2006 Location: Estonia Posts: 103
Every now and then a new topic pops about the Kill Bill special editons/extended cuts etc. As QT has promised this for years and hasn't delivered I'm not holding my breath. I have the UK R2 DVD-s and also Japanese cut of Vol.1 (more features, full colour, slightly extended).

16th April 2007 18:29  #27

alex77014 Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 187 Send a message via Yahoo to alex77014
given the box office receipts for "Grindhouse"...i would think that that outcome would affect the possibility of "Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair Edition."

20th April 2007 5:19  #28

Manda of Mu Member Join Date: June 2006 Location: United States Posts: 458
Eh, hurt perhaps but you know sooner or later it will get released.

Kill Bill was alot more popular then Grindhouse and like all of QT's films are, the older they get the more of a cult following they gain, plus all of QT's other films have gotten the special addition treatment so I think it is just a matter of time before we hear news. I don't think it will be relased alongside Grindhouse though, I think the Weinsteins are just going to dump those out on DVD as soon as possible and try to forget about them, I am even doubting the nifty extended edition Sin City got since the Weinsteins are already screwing with the films' presentation in order to gain a few bucks.

I am sure it will be released just out of nowhere one of these days (and in days I mean years).

21st April 2007 5:03  #29

David Blackwell Senior Member Join Date: February 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2,630 Send a message via MSN to David Blackwell
I know QT is working on an extended version of his half of Grindhouse

11th May 2007 1:49  #30

goingGold1 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Posts: 4
I hope this is released soon!
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