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2nd January 2006 2:34  #1

aleks Member Join Date: December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 51 Send a message via AIM to aleks Send a message via MSN to aleks Send a message via Yahoo to aleks Send a message via Google to aleks Send a message via Jabber to aleks
Windows Vista says NO to region free drives!!
From Slashdot/Neowin:

Quote: Windows Vista will no longer support DVD-ROM drives that do not handle region coding in hardware (RPC1 drives) - thus preventing playback of DVDs that are region/CSS encoded with those drives. Not a big problem, as RPC1 drives haven't been officially manufactured since 2000 (and Microsoft claims their drives are all broken), but for those with hacked drives (RPC2 with RPC1 firmware), or move the RPC1 drive to new computers, well, no more DVD movies for you!"


Well as a DVDaholic, half my collection is region 1 and the other is region 4... I'm lucky that a couple years ago I switched to the mac which OS-X is a bliss compared to Windows!  

Unfortunately, I'm still a Visual C++ Software Developer at work Sad


But for the other Windows out there, just say NO to Vista Happy

2nd January 2006 3:27  #2

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
Vista is still in developement stage so this could change - the best example is when they announce a DVD and they say it will have certian special features and when it finaly gets released, the special features are different.
It doesn't really matter anyway, if they invent some form of copy/region protection, it will not take them long to crack it and release it on the internet...

2nd January 2006 16:58  #3

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Nightmare is right. Vista and its components will likely be cracked before its even available for sale. I wouldn't worry about it.

2nd January 2006 17:02  #4

Mal Webmaster Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,290
Think I might switch over to Linux by the time Vista appears, not too keen on buying another operating system unless it's something special. Main thing that's stopping me now is software I bought that's Windows only.

2nd January 2006 19:00  #5

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,123 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
I f**king hate Linux. There, I've said it.

3rd January 2006 3:28  #6

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Chris wrote: I f**king hate Linux. There, I've said it.

Personally, I wouldnt say I hate it, but aside from running database software and whatnot I don't see a huge market for it. It's still far too difficult for the common person to use.

Macs, now them I f**ken hate Wink

Theyre overpriced babytoys. Let the flamming begin...

3rd January 2006 7:23  #7

aleks Member Join Date: December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 51 Send a message via AIM to aleks Send a message via MSN to aleks Send a message via Yahoo to aleks Send a message via Google to aleks Send a message via Jabber to aleks
Haha you guys crack me up on the flaming comments Happy

3rd January 2006 12:29  #8

Tony DeFrancisco Senior Member Join Date: July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,652
Jonny "Me You" wrote: Chris wrote: I f**king hate Linux. There, I've said it.Macs, now them I f**ken hate Wink

Theyre overpriced babytoys. Let the flamming begin...
Agreed.

Quote: Haha you guys crack me up on the flaming commentsYou'll get used to it.

3rd January 2006 16:07  #9

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Jonny "Me You" wrote: Chris wrote: I f**king hate Linux. There, I've said it.

Personally, I wouldnt say I hate it, but aside from running database software and whatnot I don't see a huge market for it. It's still far too difficult for the common person to use.

Macs, now them I f**ken hate Wink

Theyre overpriced babytoys. Let the flamming begin...


I guess I am the only one that believes that people should learn how to actually use a computer before buying one.  Too many frickin' idiots out there these days on the internet that serve no purpose other than to become spam zombies are virus spreaders.  I want to go back to the good ole days when computers were just for geeks!

3rd January 2006 19:33  #10

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Windows Vista says NO to region free drives!!
aleks wrote:

... I'm lucky that a couple years ago I switched to the mac which OS-X is a bliss compared to Windows!  


Welcome to the world of Apple computers. They were and continue to be the innovators. Computers should be useful tools that do not require a degree to operate. Microsoft continues to imitate but never comes close to the simplicity and joy that the Mac delivers. I have been using the same Blue & White G3 (albeit upgraded) for years while my friends have had to replace thier various windows-based personal computers for various reasons. This Christmas I became the proud new owner of an Apple ipod. Now I only wish I had bought stock in the company when it was dirt cheap.

3rd January 2006 20:15  #11

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Jonny "Me You" wrote: Chris wrote: I f**king hate Linux. There, I've said it.

Personally, I wouldnt say I hate it, but aside from running database software and whatnot I don't see a huge market for it. It's still far too difficult for the common person to use.

Macs, now them I f**ken hate Wink

Theyre overpriced babytoys. Let the flamming begin...


Your comments indicate a surprising level of ignorance and contradiction. However, this is quite common among PC users and dim-witted frat brothers. As for my Apple computer being a high priced toy, I would wager that I utilize the power of my computer for greater creative pursuits than the vast number of PC users that spend endless hours in front of the computer doing enlightened activities like gaming, spamming, hacking, virus production and database management. Now that's intelligent.

3rd January 2006 21:26  #12

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,123 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Windows hardly requires a degree to operate. Most things are a piece of p**s. It's just the idiots who need to RTFM who cause problems.

3rd January 2006 22:07  #13

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Windows Vista says NO to region free drives!!
Aaron Schneiderman wrote:
Welcome to the world of Apple computers. They were and continue to be the innovators.  


That's quite funny.  Apple completely stole their design from Xerox, a fact that was noted when Apple tried to sue Windows for allegedy stealing their GUI concept.

3rd January 2006 23:01  #14

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
I am well aware of the history of the desk top computer. However, to dismiss the fact that Apple has been and continues to be a superior innovator and manufacturer is blind. The quality of their products is renown. Granted, Steve Job's decision to keep Apple the sole manufacturer of its computers has had an effect on keeping prices elevated. On the other hand, Microsoft licensed every hack electronics and software company to produce products that are often incompatible. In business, the PC rules however, the MacIntosh revolutionized graphic design, CAD, CGI and publishing. Its applications are more directed towards creative environments than business aplications. The evolution of the Mac OS continues to boast ease-of-use and intuitive design. Technology is meant to simplify our lives, not add further complications.

3rd January 2006 23:29  #15

Chris Gould Editor Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,123 Send a message via ICQ to Chris Gould Send a message via MSN to Chris Gould Send a message via Skype to Chris Gould
Do you work for Apple? Wink

3rd January 2006 23:36  #16

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
LOL  No, but I love to use a sledgehammer whenever I kill a fly.

4th January 2006 6:45  #17

Worst Nightmare Senior Member Join Date: July 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,706 Send a message via AIM to Worst Nightmare Send a message via ICQ to Worst Nightmare Send a message via MSN to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Yahoo to Worst Nightmare Send a message via Google to Worst Nightmare
I use both at work in a communications enviroment but the PC is the only way to go for my applications. Than again, I have a friend who is a professional photographer and an apple is the only way for him.
It just depends on what you want to use your computer for therefore which one will suit your needs...

4th January 2006 14:42  #18

Jonny "Me You" Senior Member Join Date: March 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,863
Aaron Schneiderman wrote:  Technology is meant to simplify our lives, not add further complications.

lolol

Don't get me wrong Aaron, I like ya, but that was way over the top....hehehe

4th January 2006 15:28  #19

Adrian Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,305
Aaron Schneiderman wrote: I am well aware of the history of the desk top computer. However, to dismiss the fact that Apple has been and continues to be a superior innovator and manufacturer is blind. The quality of their products is renown.

Actually, it is just as blind to call them a superior innovator.  If they were truly a superior innovator, they would be more than a bit player in the computer market.  Jobs made a bad decision a long time ago to make his hardware proprietary so that only Apple could build it.  He has never made up for this mistake and that is what makes Apple a marginal player in desktops.

4th January 2006 15:56  #20

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
I owned video stores a few years ago and I can assure you that Sony's Beta was far superior to the much more widely used VHS. Don't confuse marketing with quality. "Dukes of Hazzard" was probably seen by more people than a number of much higher quality fare. Never confuse mass audience to quality. It's simply foolish. Many years ago my dear old Mum asked me "If everyone else jumped off the Brooklyn bridge would you?" Nope, I never took that plunge  ...and no, I'm not saying PC users are all wet.

4th January 2006 19:08  #21

Gabe Powers Editor Join Date: September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4,483 Send a message via ICQ to Gabe Powers
I'm a Mac guy, but it's because I work in Graphics, not because I'm a snob.

5th January 2006 0:10  #22

Aaron Schneiderman Senior Member Join Date: September 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1,198
Are you insinuating I am a snob? I was responding to a rather snobbish comment aimed towards Mac Users...scroll up.

5th January 2006 1:16  #23

Tigerclaw Member Join Date: November 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 493 Send a message via MSN to Tigerclaw
Apple's next Mac will have a PC chips built in

5th January 2006 12:23  #24

aleks Member Join Date: December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 51 Send a message via AIM to aleks Send a message via MSN to aleks Send a message via Yahoo to aleks Send a message via Google to aleks Send a message via Jabber to aleks
Tigerclaw wrote: Apple's next Mac will have a PC chips built in

Correct, Intel's next generation chips....

In regards to the comment why Apple is not a major player in the industry.....  I don't mind that apple has 4% of total market share (even though they have like about 70% market share in the creative industry alone), at least they are making quality and non inferior products which is beneficial to the consumer!


Apple should be releasing some intel based macs next week at Macworld, I can't wait to see what they dish out!  You never know, they might even include Blu-ray drives in the next gen iBooks/Powerbooks!

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