X-Men 4? I saw X-Men 3 in theaters. I've read that "X-Men 3 completes the Trilogy", but the end of the movie makes it seem like X-Men 4 might be coming.. does anyone know?

I've read several places that there won't be an X4, only a Magneto prequel, Wolverine film, New Mutants (younger gen) film, and on Chud they reported an Emma Frost(?) film...

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 4th, especially after the additional scene after the credits.

Tony DeFrancisco wrote: I thought it was "The Last Stand".

It's "The Last Stand" in the same way Indiana Jones was the "Last Crusade".  Part of the title, not much else.

What's the point of even making a movie if you're going to reset everything in the end? Or can we just pretend 3 never happend? Maybe we could take the 30 minutes of good stuff and cram it into a flashback at the beginning of part 4, which we'll call part 3.

see, I just didn't think it was epic at all, and that was the problem. The mutant war equated to a 15 minute squirmish featuring only 6 X-men and a bunch of mutants that only seemed to jump and punch. I'm actually a fan of the changes they made to the Dark Phoenix story line, as the introduction of the Emcron Crystal and those very '80s aliens would've been asinine in the universe Singer and co. created. Besides its insain brevity, I thought the whole of the Dark Phoenix was the one thing that worked, and minus a couple misteps here and there, I was with the movie up untill just after Spoiler Xavier died. The fact that they seemed to run out of plot and momentum after that surprisingly well choreographed sequence made me angry, had the whole picture been s**t I'd have just gone with it. I wonder how much of what I liked was due to the breif presense of Matthew Vaghn?

It just all struck me as phoney sentament. Logan's little speach about taking a stand was almost as bad as the simular rousing speach from general Mifune in Matrix Revolutions...almost. At least no one said "Xavier, I believe."

I still think the X2 score was the best one too, it was more Herman-esque.

I expect shallow sentament and wooden, over played dialogue from Star Wars, but Singer set up a solidly realistic universe in his films, even the flawed first film. I felt that I wouldn't need to suspend my disbelief going into X3. If x2 hadn't been my personal favorite super hero film perhaps I would've enjoyed it's follow up more. Perhaps the bar was set too high.

You're right in the big picture, but the little "thriller" moments in the score where what made me think it was special, and I think those made me think of Herman. I'm thinking of the early sequence where Mystique is stealing info from Striker's computer. There were some awsome spikes in the score.