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See. Even Adrian is censoring himself. Where will this madness end
Mal wrote: Difference is, you are allowed to chase people with frying pans in public places... within reason. Wink
I don't know what kind of laws that you have there, but in the US, chasing someone within a frying pan within the intent of hitting them with it would be illegal and classified under assault. If you hit them with it, then it is battery.
Mal wrote: The originals will always exist, but I get the impression that parents these days just put kids in front of the TV while they get on with other things.
I'm not sure this will always be true. We can hope that the originals are preserved somewhere and that they will always be available, but I am not sure this is always going to be the case.
As for the rest, I better stop now before we get into an over political discussion of parental responsibility versus government responsibility
I don't know what kind of laws that you have there, but in the US, chasing someone within a frying pan within the intent of hitting them with it would be illegal and classified under assault. If you hit them with it, then it is battery.
Mal wrote: The originals will always exist, but I get the impression that parents these days just put kids in front of the TV while they get on with other things.
I'm not sure this will always be true. We can hope that the originals are preserved somewhere and that they will always be available, but I am not sure this is always going to be the case.
As for the rest, I better stop now before we get into an over political discussion of parental responsibility versus government responsibility
Adrian wrote: Seriously though, if they are worried about imitation from children, I'd be more worried about the kids chasing each other around with frying pans than with smoking.
Difference is, you are allowed to chase people with frying pans in public places... within reason.
The originals will always exist, but I get the impression that parents these days just put kids in front of the TV while they get on with other things.
That's why there's all sorts of current and proposed rules of advertising on these channels - I've heard stories of children recommending that their relatives use x loan company to sort out their debt (simply because x loan company advertised on the channel). I bet the actual shows will have more influence than the adverts.
Difference is, you are allowed to chase people with frying pans in public places... within reason.
The originals will always exist, but I get the impression that parents these days just put kids in front of the TV while they get on with other things.
That's why there's all sorts of current and proposed rules of advertising on these channels - I've heard stories of children recommending that their relatives use x loan company to sort out their debt (simply because x loan company advertised on the channel). I bet the actual shows will have more influence than the adverts.
Mal wrote: Cigarettes are banned from advertising and sponsorship, the packets are plastered with huge "Smoking Kills" messages, the products are heavily taxed and there's loads of cash spent by the NHS on TV ads telling people to stop smoking.
Yet a channel aimed at kids is showing old cartoons containing smoking in a positive context... got to admit that it's a dodgy situation at least.
It may be dodgy, but it is also historical. How about actually talking to your children about why the attitudes towards smoking has changed since the time the cartoons were created? Nah, that is too complicated. The government will save us!
Seriously though, if they are worried about imitation from children, I'd be more worried about the kids chasing each other around with frying pans than with smoking.
Yet a channel aimed at kids is showing old cartoons containing smoking in a positive context... got to admit that it's a dodgy situation at least.
It may be dodgy, but it is also historical. How about actually talking to your children about why the attitudes towards smoking has changed since the time the cartoons were created? Nah, that is too complicated. The government will save us!
Seriously though, if they are worried about imitation from children, I'd be more worried about the kids chasing each other around with frying pans than with smoking.
I can't say this is a bad idea. In the age of PVRs everyone skips ads so we'll be getting more product placement on TV and the last thing we need is sneaky ciggie companies getting in there:
A: "Can I have one of your new extra-tar Benson and Hedges?"
B: "Of course. At the new low price, I won't miss one."
A: "Mmmm... smooth."
A: "Can I have one of your new extra-tar Benson and Hedges?"
B: "Of course. At the new low price, I won't miss one."
A: "Mmmm... smooth."
Cigarettes are banned from advertising and sponsorship, the packets are plastered with huge "Smoking Kills" messages, the products are heavily taxed and there's loads of cash spent by the NHS on TV ads telling people to stop smoking.
Yet a channel aimed at kids is showing old cartoons containing smoking in a positive context... got to admit that it's a dodgy situation at least.
Yet a channel aimed at kids is showing old cartoons containing smoking in a positive context... got to admit that it's a dodgy situation at least.
Ah, yes, I suppose I didn't notice that. Well, that goes for all censorship in the areas. In the UK cendorship is admited and enforced, whereas in the US everyone pretends that there is no censorship because it'd be unconstitutional, even though it's a regular practice.
There seems to be a difference here Gabe though. In the US, it is done by the stations themselves (looking at the goldenagecartoons.com shows which networks have trimmed the cartoons.) In the UK, it is part of a government effort.
Here are some censored cartoon links for ya. Or you cuold just do a wikipedia search. It's actually pretty interesting stuff, especially the anime stuff like Dragon Ball, which maybe shouldn't be aimed at little kids in the first place.
http://looney.goldenagecartoons.com/ltcuts/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing_of_anime_i...
http://looney.goldenagecartoons.com/ltcuts/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing_of_anime_i...
Gabe Powers wrote: They've been doing this in the States for years.
..and for the record, smoking is bad
Have they? I must admit it has been years since I've watched these on broadcast TV. At least, it seems they are releasing them uncut on DVD (I think).
Smoking may be bad, but it is also a part of the history of these cartoons. Kids may imitate what they see in a cartoon, but just like you have to teach them it is bad to bash each other in the head with mallets, you teach them it is bad to smoke.
..and for the record, smoking is bad
Have they? I must admit it has been years since I've watched these on broadcast TV. At least, it seems they are releasing them uncut on DVD (I think).
Smoking may be bad, but it is also a part of the history of these cartoons. Kids may imitate what they see in a cartoon, but just like you have to teach them it is bad to bash each other in the head with mallets, you teach them it is bad to smoke.
I always thought Jerry had stunted growth.....
They've been doing this in the States for years.
..and for the record, smoking is bad
..and for the record, smoking is bad
PC Police run wild in the UK
Smoking bad! Hitting people on the head with a mallet, good!
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