djblack1313 wrote: jmm, yeah, i guess you're right. it's weird how many events in the movie are just too offensive(?)/not my thing but yet i can see that the director and the crew (cinematographer, etc, etc) have talent and made (maybe i'm inflating this aspect) a well made film. i know this will sound depraved or something but i LOVE that ending (son/wife/husband)! LOL. it sounds weird to say that i like that part (you know what i mean i hope! LOL) but it was brilliant. so yeah, i'm torn in how i view this movie!

Well, I've just recently seen CRAZY, STUPID, LOVE and found it a well written movie, with some talent too, both in front of and behind the camera, but it felt outrageously repulsive to me for its "message", its hypocrisy and its extremely conservative and moralist agenda, pushing which was clearly the main purpose of the movie (along with making money, of course). But since it was disguised as a witty, mature-ish comedy, most people found it harmless. If you ask me, I found it very offensive and quite insidious, dangerous propaganda.

But it would seem most people are only concerned/bothered by an excess of sex or violence.

Back in the 70's, in Spain, where I am from, in the early days of our current democracy, authorities came up with the "S" rating for movies that, the text said, "could hurt the spectator's sensibilities". Even my younger self back then could not help but rolling my eyes at the irony that, to some extent, that warning could actually apply to any movie (hey, I have been "offended" by how silly, crass or simply bad some movies are, more than a few of them box-office hits with some Academy Awards in tow). But the "moral watchers", always so intent on saving us from ourselves, apparently only thought it necessary to let us know about movies of violent and, specially, sexual contents. And of course, studios, distributors and exhibitors were just delighted to actually use that "S" rating as a selling point.

So, no blu-ray?  Invincible just gonna screw over the people who bought the original release?

JAMIOUSE (please don't think i'm trying to be argumentative with you) but what political statement was said by....newborn infant rape (you see it!), teeth knocked/bashed out of a victim's mouth only to have said victim immediately be forced to give oral sex to someone?  now i admit i'm not always good at reading metaphors or seeing what (in this case) political statement is being made in a certain scene but help me out here. and for the record in no way do i agree w/ censorship. again, the movie is pretty well done (cinematography, atmosphere, etc) and the ending is one of the most mind fVcking (and brilliant in how it made me feel. plus the way the ending is done it's incredibly original (how he does it).

To be fair the Titanic reference doesn't really work because Cameron actually contributed a ton of money to the historical efforts around Titanic and has spent his own money to help raise portions of it.

The problem with a Serbian Film is the shock IS the movie, like I stated before if the director wanted people to find a deep greater meaning in it he probably shouldn't have hidden it so well.

iconoclast wrote: What's wrong with shock for shock's sake? We get cute for cute sake and Michael Bay has a built career on explosions for explosions sake, and the list goes on. And a film maker should not be thrown in jail even if his film is the most depraved piece of cinema put on this earth. I didn't see anyone calling for James Cameron's head after Titanic, and I find making a romantic film around a horrible tragedy is just as bad as anything in Cannibal Holocaust. No film should be wiped from existence because of it's content. In the early 1900's an effort was made to destroy all prints of Nosferatu, we're lucky that movie is still around today.
Now I haven't seen this film yet, but even if I did find it so utterly appalling that I couldn't bare to watch another frame, I would never destroy or go on some holy crusade against it, it's just a movie, and nothing more.

Thank you for being the voice of reason on this thread. I want to think some of the previous posts were... well, just trying to be shocking for the sake of it.

Me, the only thing I find outrageous here is how the studio is trying to sell this as some kind of snuff movie with that blood-smeared, bootleg-like cover art. Now THAT I find exploitative.

I agree--I wasn't saying that the movie should be banned or anything, just that I doubt it's all that good.

I don't a hundred dollars agree, to be honest.

This is one movie I'll bet you won't find at any retail stores like Best Buy or Walmart .This movie should just be burned and the director sent to prison for making this .

llama wrote: I haven't seen this, but I'll just go ahead and assume it's another one of those, "throw a bunch of nasty s**t on the screen and try to pass it off as social commentary," movies, like the recent dissapointment known as "We Are Who We Are." Like, I read a description of the movie, and the director's statements on what it's an apparent commentary of, but...it just doesn't seem to add up to me. I might be missing something, but I'm a bit confused as to how a man being forced to rape his own kid is a metaphor for political correctness.

I'm completely with you on this. While I don't believe in censorship I do believe that some things just shouldn't be made. I've been folloing this movie since it was first screened and it comes across as shock for the sake of shock. If the director wanted it to be a metaphor for something he probably shouldn't have made a film so disgusting that everyone misses it.

llama, in my opnion you are spot on! again, i'm not for censorship but this movie was let's shock people for the sake of it. knocking out someone's teeth and then making them..... etc, etc. etc. is a metaphor for what exactly? and so forth.

i had this (uncut) on DVD a while ago and was so disgusted with it that i actually threw it out. i'm not saying this should be censored but this type of film (infant rape, etc etc) is not for me. weirdly enough it's a competently made film with good cinematography.