Back to the Future (US - DVD R1)
Universal Home Video announces a 2-disc special edition of the original film
Title: Back to the Future
Starring: Michael J. Fox
Released: 10th February 2009
SRP: $19.98
Further Details:
Universal Home Video has announced a 2-disc special edition of Back to the Future for the 10th February. Retail will be $19.98. Extras will include a commentary with Producers Bob Gale and Neil Canton, a Q&A with Director Robert Zemeckis and Producer Bob Gale, an Enhanced Conversation with Michael J. Fox, deleted scenes, outtakes, original makeup tests, cast and crew bios, a Making of Back to the Future featurette, a Back to the Future...The Ride feature ( Lobby Monitor, The Ride), a Looking Back to the Future documentary (The Script, Casting Marty McFly, Christopher Lloyd Reflects on Doc Brown, The DeLorean as the Time Machine, Building Hill Valley, Prepping for the “Johnny B. Goode” Scene, The Score, Rushing the Cut, The Legacy), excerpts from the screenplay, trailers, and more.
Also available from the 10th February will be individual releases of Back to the Future Parts II and III. Each will retail at $19.98 and will include the same material found on the previously released trilogy collection. We've attached the official package artwork for each of the upcoming releases below:
News by Tom Woodward
Starring: Michael J. Fox
Released: 10th February 2009
SRP: $19.98
Further Details:
Universal Home Video has announced a 2-disc special edition of Back to the Future for the 10th February. Retail will be $19.98. Extras will include a commentary with Producers Bob Gale and Neil Canton, a Q&A with Director Robert Zemeckis and Producer Bob Gale, an Enhanced Conversation with Michael J. Fox, deleted scenes, outtakes, original makeup tests, cast and crew bios, a Making of Back to the Future featurette, a Back to the Future...The Ride feature ( Lobby Monitor, The Ride), a Looking Back to the Future documentary (The Script, Casting Marty McFly, Christopher Lloyd Reflects on Doc Brown, The DeLorean as the Time Machine, Building Hill Valley, Prepping for the “Johnny B. Goode” Scene, The Score, Rushing the Cut, The Legacy), excerpts from the screenplay, trailers, and more.
Also available from the 10th February will be individual releases of Back to the Future Parts II and III. Each will retail at $19.98 and will include the same material found on the previously released trilogy collection. We've attached the official package artwork for each of the upcoming releases below:
News by Tom Woodward
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I've seen parts of the first film and wound up liking it. Would like to see all of it. If my video store offers it for rent (which I don't think they would), I'll rent it. Otherwise, I'll stick with the older titles. Where's the Blu-Ray though? I want to see those movies go onto Blu-Ray!
sildu wrote: Chris Gould, you don't get to decide how I interpret something. Webmaster or not.
Actually I do get to decide if something is insulting and take appropriate action if necessary. To do that I try to determine whether the comments would cause offence to any reasonably well-balanced individual with nominal skin thickness. In this case I deemed Croweyes' comments perfectly harmless. It's not like he called you a c**t.
Quote: I wouldn't talk too much about grasping the basic fundamentals about a topic before arguing a point when it seems painfully obvious to me that you can't even read a post. At which point did I use the word "wit" anywhere in any of my posts? I'm waiting.....
Your wait is over:
Quote: P.S. I'll give you something else to think about also. DVD is only 11 years old and they've come out wit a new format.
What was that you were saying?
Croweyes, I'll be keeping an eye on him from now on. I don't think this is the first thread he's kicked off in.
Actually I do get to decide if something is insulting and take appropriate action if necessary. To do that I try to determine whether the comments would cause offence to any reasonably well-balanced individual with nominal skin thickness. In this case I deemed Croweyes' comments perfectly harmless. It's not like he called you a c**t.
Quote: I wouldn't talk too much about grasping the basic fundamentals about a topic before arguing a point when it seems painfully obvious to me that you can't even read a post. At which point did I use the word "wit" anywhere in any of my posts? I'm waiting.....
Your wait is over:
Quote: P.S. I'll give you something else to think about also. DVD is only 11 years old and they've come out wit a new format.
What was that you were saying?
Croweyes, I'll be keeping an eye on him from now on. I don't think this is the first thread he's kicked off in.
Surely these are ready to go on Blu-ray .
It seems like such a bizarre move to re-release these movies on DVD only.
Wassup with that Universal?
It seems like such a bizarre move to re-release these movies on DVD only.
Wassup with that Universal?
watcher517: Wow, really? You're in for a treat if you've never seen these films, they're terrific. I don't blame you for wanting to hold out for these editions, either. No doubt the framing will be the "V2" (corrected) versions without having to worry about getting the older, misframed variety. And the new cover art is MUCH cooler than the old. So for a first-time buyer, it makes sense.
I've actually never seen any of these. I want to get these versions even though the box set is pretty cheap now.
sildu: I did NOT apologize to you or retract anything I said. I was only trying to be helpful and you got hyper-sensitive about my poking holes in your painfully-flawed logic. What I actually said was that I was sorry if my choice of words offended you. Meaning...*ahem*...I'm sorry if *you* got offended by something that was never *intended* to offend. But you're right. Everyone on this board is nuts, sildu. Me, Chris Gould, Grifter02, Thedaz? We're all out to get you just because we can. Oh, and that's called *sarcasm*, by the way. It's not an actual admission of anything. Just so we're clear.
Grifter02: I dunno. Maybe having a soft spot in your heart for the simpler ways of the past isn't such a bad thing, man. If anything, sildu here kind of makes me wish it was 1937 all over again. And I do hope that joke's not too terribly difficult to figure out, I just couldn't resist. I love the internet. lol
Back on topic, though...Universal knows that 99% of people who want these films already own them on DVD, so yet another DVD release is pretty pointless. Regardless of *ahem* some people's feelings about the needlessness of the format, a blu-ray release would at least be something NEW to introduce into the marketplace.
On a personal note:
Chris, can we *please* ban this troll?
Grifter02: I dunno. Maybe having a soft spot in your heart for the simpler ways of the past isn't such a bad thing, man. If anything, sildu here kind of makes me wish it was 1937 all over again. And I do hope that joke's not too terribly difficult to figure out, I just couldn't resist. I love the internet. lol
Back on topic, though...Universal knows that 99% of people who want these films already own them on DVD, so yet another DVD release is pretty pointless. Regardless of *ahem* some people's feelings about the needlessness of the format, a blu-ray release would at least be something NEW to introduce into the marketplace.
On a personal note:
Chris, can we *please* ban this troll?
Chris Gould, you don't get to decide how I interpret something. Webmaster or not. I found his use of the wors "silly" insulting and it was at that time. If he didn't think it was even remotely possible that he went a little overboard singing the praises of blu-ray, then he wouldn't have apologized about it. And by the way, I wouldn't talk too much about grasping the basic fundamentals about a topic before arguing a point when it seems painfully obvious to me that you can't even read a post. At which point did I use the word "wit" anywhere in any of my posts? I'm waiting..... Thought so. Croweyes1121, thanks for having the brains to admit that maybe you were a bit overbearing and apologize. I'd like to point out to you that it was you who first got your "panties" in a twist over this because you just couldn't accept that someone didn't agree with you about your beloved format. And please don't contradict yourself anymore by saying that you could care less about what I buy when it's obvious that you do. If not, I wouldn't be responding to you for what seems like the twentieth time. Thedaz, and grifter02, go to hell! Your remarks are designed to do nothing but elicit responses like this. What the hell does outhouses and horse-drawn carriages have to do with not liking blu-ray. I guess you are accusing me of standing in the way of progress. Interesting. I've got one question for you grifter02. In the presidential election this year, who did you vote for? If you voted for anyone other than Barak Obama then you are a f#cking hypocrite son of a b***h! He is the perfect example of progress. I mean, how many black presidents have we had? If you didn't vote for him, don't ever accuse me of standing in the way of progress again with your 1950's mentality.
I did construct a lengthy reply to sildu a few days ago, but for some reason it never showed up, so I'll cut it short this time.
Sildu, Croweyes didn't insult you, you overreacted and your 'facts' are mostly comprised of hearsay and misinformation. If you are going to argue a point, you need to have at least a basic grasp of the fundamentals. Using words like 'wit' in your posts doesn't help matters either.
Sildu, Croweyes didn't insult you, you overreacted and your 'facts' are mostly comprised of hearsay and misinformation. If you are going to argue a point, you need to have at least a basic grasp of the fundamentals. Using words like 'wit' in your posts doesn't help matters either.
Maritere wrote: To think that humans will still be using blu-ray discs in 2200 is just... well, a bit naive.
As if I'd be dopey enough to genuinely believe that. You might want to re-read my post.
Of course higher resolution formats will eventually come along, but by that point, it will be via downloads. Look how fast MP3s have pretty much killed CDs.
It's funny, I've lived with younger housemates and none of them have CD collections. All their music is on a laptop. Sometimes I glance at my CD collection and feel like a grandpa.
Downloadable movies have already made a presence, so I think the disc format's days are relatively numbered. I think Blu-ray is the last chance the studios will have to squeeze money out of us for a pre-packaged movie format.
Blu-ray will probably end up like viynl, where just the purists who want the absolute best quality, with nice packaging will continue to buy it and the rest will just download everything.
As if I'd be dopey enough to genuinely believe that. You might want to re-read my post.
Of course higher resolution formats will eventually come along, but by that point, it will be via downloads. Look how fast MP3s have pretty much killed CDs.
It's funny, I've lived with younger housemates and none of them have CD collections. All their music is on a laptop. Sometimes I glance at my CD collection and feel like a grandpa.
Downloadable movies have already made a presence, so I think the disc format's days are relatively numbered. I think Blu-ray is the last chance the studios will have to squeeze money out of us for a pre-packaged movie format.
Blu-ray will probably end up like viynl, where just the purists who want the absolute best quality, with nice packaging will continue to buy it and the rest will just download everything.
thedaz wrote: I genuinely believe, as do many experts, that Blu-ray will be the last mainstream hardware based format for movies, as CD is for music.
Well, I'm gonna have to disgaree with you there; as much as I love Blu-ray, I certainly don't think this will be the last format ever, or the definitive format for that matter. It's like saying everything that can be invented, has already been invented. It's just not possible.
New technologies beyond our imagination will continue to emerge over the years and the movie industry will adopt such technologies, some will succesful, others will fail. But new formats will keep coming.
You have to keep in mind that the Quad Full High Definition TV is coming, it may not be here for several years, maybe even a couple of decades before it becomes mainstream, but it will be here at some point. It's 2160p, and a new format will have to emerge. Such format will offer a resolution a few times higher than blu-ray discs. And then there's the Super Hi Vision, which offers a 7680×4320 pixel image.
Anmd after that, more and more formats will be emerging. To think that humans will still be using blu-ray discs in 2200 is just... well, a bit naive.
Just my opinion, anyway.
Well, I'm gonna have to disgaree with you there; as much as I love Blu-ray, I certainly don't think this will be the last format ever, or the definitive format for that matter. It's like saying everything that can be invented, has already been invented. It's just not possible.
New technologies beyond our imagination will continue to emerge over the years and the movie industry will adopt such technologies, some will succesful, others will fail. But new formats will keep coming.
You have to keep in mind that the Quad Full High Definition TV is coming, it may not be here for several years, maybe even a couple of decades before it becomes mainstream, but it will be here at some point. It's 2160p, and a new format will have to emerge. Such format will offer a resolution a few times higher than blu-ray discs. And then there's the Super Hi Vision, which offers a 7680×4320 pixel image.
Anmd after that, more and more formats will be emerging. To think that humans will still be using blu-ray discs in 2200 is just... well, a bit naive.
Just my opinion, anyway.
sildu wrote: If you are taking the highground croweyes1121, it's in your own head. Get over yourself. Your use of the word "silly" in reference to my not wanting to purchase a PS3 was more than a little insulting to me. But that's something I wouldn't expect you or Grifter02 to understand since he must choose a side in this. The only hostility displayed was coming from your inability to accept the fact that some people just don't want to rebuy the same freaking movies over again for the hundredth time. How many copies of Jaws or Star Wars do you really need? I do have a question for you though. When is it gonna end for you? When will enough be enough? Someone on here said it better. The more people that continue to buy into this "silly" BS, the more formats they will come up with. If you've done anything here at all, you helped me make up my mind once and for all. When the last DVD has been pressed, then I'll be forced to switch to blu-ray. Until then, I'm sticking with DVD. I know millions of others will also. My personal opinion is that blu-ray will eventually go the way of laserdisc. It seems to be what they call a "niche" format at best. For certain moviebuffs and collectors only. I may be wrong, but that's just me. I don't know too many people down here that are even interested in rebuying all this c**p all over again. I know I'm not. Grifter02, if I thought I was really being too hard on croweyes1121, I would have let up. I really don't think that he's a bad guy at all. I just think that he needs to choose his words more carefully. Until he used that word "silly", everything was just fine. Peace.
P.S. I'll give you something else to think about also. DVD is only 11 years old and they've come out wit a new format. When DVD first arrived on the scene, it was touted as being the "ultimate home video experience". Before you can say that it was for its time, you will have made my point. If everyone eventually switched to blu-ray to make you happy, how long before another format is introduced? I'd give you 5 years max with the way technology is growing. Blu-ray is now the ultimate from what you say. But don't think for one minute that they can't improve on that. They'll come up with a new disc that will have your precious blu-rays looking like c**p along with dvd. Then you and the elite will rebuy all 1700 of your favorites all over again. Not me. I'm getting off this damned merry-go-round.
So, I guess you would be happy as a pig in s**t if we were all still riding around in horse-drawn buggies and going to the outhouse to take a c**p. I mean, seriously, 13" black and white tube tvs are where it's at, right? No, wait, having company over to sit around the radio and listen to the latest Tarzan serial!
Or maybe we should go all the way back to living in caves and hunting animals with rocks. Screw all this new-fangled technology! I don't want anything to ever be easier or better! I just want everything to stay the same forever!
Technology is advancing at an incredible rate and there's nothing you can do about it. You can decide not to buy into it, but it's still going to be happening all around you. No matter how much you whine and complain about it, you're not going to change that fact. So you keep buying DVDs and I'll happily continue to buy new Blu-Rays because I have embraced technology.
P.S. I'll give you something else to think about also. DVD is only 11 years old and they've come out wit a new format. When DVD first arrived on the scene, it was touted as being the "ultimate home video experience". Before you can say that it was for its time, you will have made my point. If everyone eventually switched to blu-ray to make you happy, how long before another format is introduced? I'd give you 5 years max with the way technology is growing. Blu-ray is now the ultimate from what you say. But don't think for one minute that they can't improve on that. They'll come up with a new disc that will have your precious blu-rays looking like c**p along with dvd. Then you and the elite will rebuy all 1700 of your favorites all over again. Not me. I'm getting off this damned merry-go-round.
So, I guess you would be happy as a pig in s**t if we were all still riding around in horse-drawn buggies and going to the outhouse to take a c**p. I mean, seriously, 13" black and white tube tvs are where it's at, right? No, wait, having company over to sit around the radio and listen to the latest Tarzan serial!
Or maybe we should go all the way back to living in caves and hunting animals with rocks. Screw all this new-fangled technology! I don't want anything to ever be easier or better! I just want everything to stay the same forever!
Technology is advancing at an incredible rate and there's nothing you can do about it. You can decide not to buy into it, but it's still going to be happening all around you. No matter how much you whine and complain about it, you're not going to change that fact. So you keep buying DVDs and I'll happily continue to buy new Blu-Rays because I have embraced technology.
BD or BUST!
The fact is that Blu-Ray is the next step in the revolution. Sure, if you want to skip it, it is your choice - but with most BD players upscaling old DVD content, you would be mad to buy a new DVD player today - you would buy a BD player instead.
If you have a 1080 capable TV, why not use it for what it can do? You only live once.
I personally am starting to buy BD even though I don't have a player yet, but I fully acknowledge that I will only buy around 10 "replacments" on BD for my most favourite movies and my other 600 DVD's or so will just have to deal with the upscaling.
If you have a 1080 capable TV, why not use it for what it can do? You only live once.
I personally am starting to buy BD even though I don't have a player yet, but I fully acknowledge that I will only buy around 10 "replacments" on BD for my most favourite movies and my other 600 DVD's or so will just have to deal with the upscaling.
Here, here, thedaz. I whole-heartedly agree with that post.
And sildu, what you choose to purchase or not purchase is your own sweet business. Please believe me when I say that I really could not care less. Now, it is *my personal opinion* that anyone who decides not to purchase a perfectly good Blu-ray player simply because they either A) don't want a game system as their primary player, B) don't like that they don't have all that many other players to choose from that perform as well as the one in question, or C) are too lazy to keep up with firmware updates on what is right now a cutting edge technology are, by definition, being a bit...um...silly. And I'm not saying those all describe you, by the way. If you're going to choose to invest in new technology, you have to understand that *any* new technology has hiccups and growing pains involved. If you're not willing to accept that reality or find it too annoying to warrant making the hi-def dive, then I think you're doing the right thing by sticking with standard DVD until the kinks get ironed out (or, as you say, until they - inevitably - come out with something even *more* cutting edge years down the road). My bone of contention here is that you are choosing not to buy into blu-ray technology (which is understandable given your apparent indifference to...or at least willingness to go without... the *huge* leap in quality that blu-ray offers over 480p DVD), yet you're still complaining about player selection, firmware issues, etc. Either choose standard DVD and forget about blu-ray for the time being or make the next step into a "niche" format (which has, in all fairness, already *far* surpassed any moderate success that Laserdisc ever enjoyed) and take on the minor issues that come with being at the forefront of what the home theater experience has to offer. Those of us who aren't happy with anything less than blu-ray at this point (and there are many of us) have gotten used to that reality. We had a lot of practice getting used to it when we invested in Laserdisc when VHS wasn't good enough. And we think it's worth it for the advances that blu-ray offers. And hey, if you don't, then more power to you. I'm sorry if my choice of words offended you in some way. I never meant to imply that you were silly for thinking the way you think, only that I think the argument is inherently silly, no matter who makes it. I say that not as a slight against you, but as an observation that I feel that that argument misses the underlying point of embracing new technology. There are things that come with that, and I personally find wanting the advantages of said technology but being unwilling to accept the drawbacks as well (which have been present in some form with every next-step product ever created) to be an unrealistic and, well...silly...position to take. For the record, though, I don't plan to re-buy everything on Blu-ray. Only the films that I truly love and must own in HD. And I think many people are of that same mind right now, so it's likely that your assessment of blu-ray remaining something of a niche format (albeit a very successful one) is true in a sense. As far as what I choose to write, I'm as free as anyone else on this board. I'm as free as you are to choose how I make my points. And at the risk of saying something that will further exacerbate this issue, I'd like to remind you that it was you who first got your panties into a twist over this, not me. But anyway...as far as enough being enough, well...it looks like we can finally agree on something.
And sildu, what you choose to purchase or not purchase is your own sweet business. Please believe me when I say that I really could not care less. Now, it is *my personal opinion* that anyone who decides not to purchase a perfectly good Blu-ray player simply because they either A) don't want a game system as their primary player, B) don't like that they don't have all that many other players to choose from that perform as well as the one in question, or C) are too lazy to keep up with firmware updates on what is right now a cutting edge technology are, by definition, being a bit...um...silly. And I'm not saying those all describe you, by the way. If you're going to choose to invest in new technology, you have to understand that *any* new technology has hiccups and growing pains involved. If you're not willing to accept that reality or find it too annoying to warrant making the hi-def dive, then I think you're doing the right thing by sticking with standard DVD until the kinks get ironed out (or, as you say, until they - inevitably - come out with something even *more* cutting edge years down the road). My bone of contention here is that you are choosing not to buy into blu-ray technology (which is understandable given your apparent indifference to...or at least willingness to go without... the *huge* leap in quality that blu-ray offers over 480p DVD), yet you're still complaining about player selection, firmware issues, etc. Either choose standard DVD and forget about blu-ray for the time being or make the next step into a "niche" format (which has, in all fairness, already *far* surpassed any moderate success that Laserdisc ever enjoyed) and take on the minor issues that come with being at the forefront of what the home theater experience has to offer. Those of us who aren't happy with anything less than blu-ray at this point (and there are many of us) have gotten used to that reality. We had a lot of practice getting used to it when we invested in Laserdisc when VHS wasn't good enough. And we think it's worth it for the advances that blu-ray offers. And hey, if you don't, then more power to you. I'm sorry if my choice of words offended you in some way. I never meant to imply that you were silly for thinking the way you think, only that I think the argument is inherently silly, no matter who makes it. I say that not as a slight against you, but as an observation that I feel that that argument misses the underlying point of embracing new technology. There are things that come with that, and I personally find wanting the advantages of said technology but being unwilling to accept the drawbacks as well (which have been present in some form with every next-step product ever created) to be an unrealistic and, well...silly...position to take. For the record, though, I don't plan to re-buy everything on Blu-ray. Only the films that I truly love and must own in HD. And I think many people are of that same mind right now, so it's likely that your assessment of blu-ray remaining something of a niche format (albeit a very successful one) is true in a sense. As far as what I choose to write, I'm as free as anyone else on this board. I'm as free as you are to choose how I make my points. And at the risk of saying something that will further exacerbate this issue, I'd like to remind you that it was you who first got your panties into a twist over this, not me. But anyway...as far as enough being enough, well...it looks like we can finally agree on something.
sildu, you're starting to talk a little too much poo-poo now.
If you want to "enjoy" your favourite movies at significantly lower quality, that's your choice (and your loss).
I genuinely believe, as do many experts, that Blu-ray will be the last mainstream hardware based format for movies, as CD is for music. Most people under 30 hardly (if ever) purchase CDs any more. It's a slowly dying format. Ultimately, like music, HD movies will be downloaded to our home entertainment/media systems. All disc formats will eventually be obsolete.
However, I think Blu-ray will make significant inroads into the DVD market. How much, is uncertain. But it will have far greater success than laserdisc. I see 1080P and Blu-ray being the standard in home video for a long time.
If you want to "enjoy" your favourite movies at significantly lower quality, that's your choice (and your loss).
I genuinely believe, as do many experts, that Blu-ray will be the last mainstream hardware based format for movies, as CD is for music. Most people under 30 hardly (if ever) purchase CDs any more. It's a slowly dying format. Ultimately, like music, HD movies will be downloaded to our home entertainment/media systems. All disc formats will eventually be obsolete.
However, I think Blu-ray will make significant inroads into the DVD market. How much, is uncertain. But it will have far greater success than laserdisc. I see 1080P and Blu-ray being the standard in home video for a long time.
If you are taking the highground croweyes1121, it's in your own head. Get over yourself. Your use of the word "silly" in reference to my not wanting to purchase a PS3 was more than a little insulting to me. But that's something I wouldn't expect you or Grifter02 to understand since he must choose a side in this. The only hostility displayed was coming from your inability to accept the fact that some people just don't want to rebuy the same freaking movies over again for the hundredth time. How many copies of Jaws or Star Wars do you really need? I do have a question for you though. When is it gonna end for you? When will enough be enough? Someone on here said it better. The more people that continue to buy into this "silly" BS, the more formats they will come up with. If you've done anything here at all, you helped me make up my mind once and for all. When the last DVD has been pressed, then I'll be forced to switch to blu-ray. Until then, I'm sticking with DVD. I know millions of others will also. My personal opinion is that blu-ray will eventually go the way of laserdisc. It seems to be what they call a "niche" format at best. For certain moviebuffs and collectors only. I may be wrong, but that's just me. I don't know too many people down here that are even interested in rebuying all this c**p all over again. I know I'm not. Grifter02, if I thought I was really being too hard on croweyes1121, I would have let up. I really don't think that he's a bad guy at all. I just think that he needs to choose his words more carefully. Until he used that word "silly", everything was just fine. Peace.
P.S. I'll give you something else to think about also. DVD is only 11 years old and they've come out wit a new format. When DVD first arrived on the scene, it was touted as being the "ultimate home video experience". Before you can say that it was for its time, you will have made my point. If everyone eventually switched to blu-ray to make you happy, how long before another format is introduced? I'd give you 5 years max with the way technology is growing. Blu-ray is now the ultimate from what you say. But don't think for one minute that they can't improve on that. They'll come up with a new disc that will have your precious blu-rays looking like c**p along with dvd. Then you and the elite will rebuy all 1700 of your favorites all over again. Not me. I'm getting off this damned merry-go-round.
P.S. I'll give you something else to think about also. DVD is only 11 years old and they've come out wit a new format. When DVD first arrived on the scene, it was touted as being the "ultimate home video experience". Before you can say that it was for its time, you will have made my point. If everyone eventually switched to blu-ray to make you happy, how long before another format is introduced? I'd give you 5 years max with the way technology is growing. Blu-ray is now the ultimate from what you say. But don't think for one minute that they can't improve on that. They'll come up with a new disc that will have your precious blu-rays looking like c**p along with dvd. Then you and the elite will rebuy all 1700 of your favorites all over again. Not me. I'm getting off this damned merry-go-round.
Unless they finally got permission to show some of that Eric Stolz footage, I ain't shelling out for this double-dip!
sildu wrote: what I'm reading online, there's a ton of people that have been buying discs that won't even play. You have to do something called a firmware update. Sometimes even that won't work.
You know, that's not true, that's a myth. I have the Panasonic BD-30 and over 70 BD movies so far, and I haven't experienced a single problem playing those movies. That sounds just like hateful comments from people who despise BD.
Too bad. Blu-ray is way better than DVD.
You know, that's not true, that's a myth. I have the Panasonic BD-30 and over 70 BD movies so far, and I haven't experienced a single problem playing those movies. That sounds just like hateful comments from people who despise BD.
Too bad. Blu-ray is way better than DVD.
I hope Universal doesn't f**k this re-release, like they did with the original DVD release, & fix the framing issue with Future II & Future III. Whats the point of getting these releases, regardless if their in Hi-Def or not, if the studio that releases them just can't get their heads out of each other's a*ses & manufacture the film in frame.
U2psycho wrote: Sure Blu-ray looks and sounds better no one can argue that but DVD is and has been a great format for a lot of people for a long time and will continue to be for a long time.
Until they start making the multi-layer discs with both.
If you're referring to a combo DVD/Blu-Ray disc, it's not possible. Well, it's probably possible but the BDA doesn't allow it, they did not include it in the spec. Only HD DVD had the ability to include both DVD and HD DVD content on one disc.
Until they start making the multi-layer discs with both.
If you're referring to a combo DVD/Blu-Ray disc, it's not possible. Well, it's probably possible but the BDA doesn't allow it, they did not include it in the spec. Only HD DVD had the ability to include both DVD and HD DVD content on one disc.
Sure Blu-ray looks and sounds better no one can argue that but DVD is and has been a great format for a lot of people for a long time and will continue to be for a long time.
Until they start making the multi-layer discs with both.
Until they start making the multi-layer discs with both.
Thanks, Grifter02.
sildu wrote: Thedaz, yes I have seen a blu-ray demo in circuit city. I too was blown away by it. But understand something, the leap from DVD to blu-ray isn't as great in terms of quality as it was from VHS to DVD. I think we can all agree on that. And croweyes1121 you can find it as silly as you want, my mind is made up. IT has nothing to do with the fact that the PS3 has other functions. Where the hell do you get this stuff? I just don't like the fact that the PS is the ONLY player that can consistently play all blu-ray discs on the market.Head on over to digitalbits.com and witness the problems had by purchasers of Transformers, Iron-Man and the classic James Bond blu-ray discs to name a few. Surely you don't think that those people that purchased standalone players shouldn't be able to view their discs because they didn't purchase a PS3 like you. You couldn't possibly be that big of an ass. Thanks to all the rest of you for your advice. It was very helpful. Most of all it was kind. Most of the people that frequent boards like this can't seem to grasp the fact that just because someone can't see you to get their hands on you doesn't mean that you have to be a rude b*****d.
sildu,
I'm not sure if you know this, but DVD went through all the same growing pains when it first came out that Blu-Ray is growing through now. The difference is that 11 years ago, the internet was a fraction of it's current size so there was no easy way to get firmware updates to customers and also no way for those customers to share the same bad feelings toward the format that you are sharing on this forum toward Blu-Ray.
When the movie Cast Away first came out on DVD, I had just purchased a brand new DVD player the week before and I was excited to watch this new movie on it. I put the disc in the player and waited... and waited... and then the player spit the disc out and said it was unreadable. I tried the disc in a better, more expensive player, and it played fine all the way through. If they had firmware updates back then, I could have easily installed one and enjoyed my movie, but, instead, I had to go through the trouble of returning the player to the store and convincing them to take it back, and then choosing a better one.
I'm trying to make two points here. First, your chosen format, DVD, is only more reliable now because it has been out for so long and all the kinks have been ironed out. Second, firmware updates are a fantastic ability to have because you know that no matter what they come up with in Blu-Ray's future, you can always take advantage of it with a simple download from the internet. And most new players will update themselves automatically if you connect them to the internet, so it's a totally painless process.
Also, one other thing, you keep saying that people with standalones can't play certain discs. That's the point of firmware updates, so they CAN play every disc that comes out. I don't think there is a single player out there that can't play every disc available as long as it has the latest firmware installed.
P.S. You're being way to hard on Croweyes1121. From my perspective, he was just trying to give you some info on Blu-Ray, I don't know why you felt personally attacked by his messages.
sildu,
I'm not sure if you know this, but DVD went through all the same growing pains when it first came out that Blu-Ray is growing through now. The difference is that 11 years ago, the internet was a fraction of it's current size so there was no easy way to get firmware updates to customers and also no way for those customers to share the same bad feelings toward the format that you are sharing on this forum toward Blu-Ray.
When the movie Cast Away first came out on DVD, I had just purchased a brand new DVD player the week before and I was excited to watch this new movie on it. I put the disc in the player and waited... and waited... and then the player spit the disc out and said it was unreadable. I tried the disc in a better, more expensive player, and it played fine all the way through. If they had firmware updates back then, I could have easily installed one and enjoyed my movie, but, instead, I had to go through the trouble of returning the player to the store and convincing them to take it back, and then choosing a better one.
I'm trying to make two points here. First, your chosen format, DVD, is only more reliable now because it has been out for so long and all the kinks have been ironed out. Second, firmware updates are a fantastic ability to have because you know that no matter what they come up with in Blu-Ray's future, you can always take advantage of it with a simple download from the internet. And most new players will update themselves automatically if you connect them to the internet, so it's a totally painless process.
Also, one other thing, you keep saying that people with standalones can't play certain discs. That's the point of firmware updates, so they CAN play every disc that comes out. I don't think there is a single player out there that can't play every disc available as long as it has the latest firmware installed.
P.S. You're being way to hard on Croweyes1121. From my perspective, he was just trying to give you some info on Blu-Ray, I don't know why you felt personally attacked by his messages.
A completely POINTLESS, UNNECESSARY series of releases. The original trilogy released several years ago in that one case should have been the end of it. There are no projects in the works anywhere in relation to BTTF, so why bring this out now? There's nothing to tie in with, like a new movie, another ride, or anything like that. DUH.
sildu: Fine, your mind's made up. I have no issue with that. I am in full agreement that Blu-ray hardware has been problematic and I do think that is unfortunate. On the other hand, I simply find it a poor argument to refuse to purchase a player that is extremely good simply because you have no other players to choose from. If there is one that has no issues, what difference does it make? But to each their own, sir. On a personal note, however, let me just say that I've said nothing to warrant your calling me a rude bast**d. So thank for allowing me to take the high ground and not saying anything nearly so uncalled-for back to you. Regardless, I merely have an opinion which differs from yours, sir, and your unwillingness to simply take it as such before jumping instead to the false conclusion that it is some sort of personal attack speaks greater volumes about your character than I ever could.
BoBoi wrote: Bring on the Blu-Ray already. This release is pointless!
Nothing to add. Well spoken.
Nothing to add. Well spoken.
sildu wrote: ...the leap from DVD to Blu-ray isn't as great in terms of quality as it was from VHS to DVD. I think we can all agree on that.
No we can't.
A well mastered VHS movie can actually look quite good. I had the Star Wars SEs on VHS and their picture quality was excellent. I think DVDs tended to look so much better because the extra resolution and digital clarity forced the studios to master their films better. (This is happening all over again due to Blu-ray.) Also, VHS often looked dull and noisy because of poor tapes, tape wear and dirty heads. The apparent massive leap in picture quality on DVD wasn't solely due to VHS's resolution or potential.
Of course, the digital revolution has taken away all of those analogue variables. Thank god.
I think the convenience and novelty of DVD (menus, instant chapter access, extra features, etc) on top of the quality was what made it so appealing over the seemingly archaic analogue VHS. I think Blu-ray may have a tougher time succeeding because to the general consumer, the formats appear to be the same.
I DO think the improvement to Blu-ray is just as impressive as VHS to DVD. After getting used to Blu-ray, DVDs look like c**p to me now.
Here are the facts regarding video resolution:
VHS: 330×480 (250 lines) (158,400 pixels)
NTSC DVD: 720×480 (520 lines) (345,600 pixels)
Blu-ray: 1920×1080 (1080 lines) (2,073,600 pixels)
And I can see it all on the screen.
P.S. Don't get me started on upscaling. For the most part, it's a sales gimmick that the electronics companys have milked all the way to the bank.
No we can't.
A well mastered VHS movie can actually look quite good. I had the Star Wars SEs on VHS and their picture quality was excellent. I think DVDs tended to look so much better because the extra resolution and digital clarity forced the studios to master their films better. (This is happening all over again due to Blu-ray.) Also, VHS often looked dull and noisy because of poor tapes, tape wear and dirty heads. The apparent massive leap in picture quality on DVD wasn't solely due to VHS's resolution or potential.
Of course, the digital revolution has taken away all of those analogue variables. Thank god.
I think the convenience and novelty of DVD (menus, instant chapter access, extra features, etc) on top of the quality was what made it so appealing over the seemingly archaic analogue VHS. I think Blu-ray may have a tougher time succeeding because to the general consumer, the formats appear to be the same.
I DO think the improvement to Blu-ray is just as impressive as VHS to DVD. After getting used to Blu-ray, DVDs look like c**p to me now.
Here are the facts regarding video resolution:
VHS: 330×480 (250 lines) (158,400 pixels)
NTSC DVD: 720×480 (520 lines) (345,600 pixels)
Blu-ray: 1920×1080 (1080 lines) (2,073,600 pixels)
And I can see it all on the screen.
P.S. Don't get me started on upscaling. For the most part, it's a sales gimmick that the electronics companys have milked all the way to the bank.
Will the "Ride" feature happen to be the ride footage itself? That might make up for Universal closing it.
I hope this will be released in a new box set as well. They did it for Indiana Jones and Star Wars (eventually). So this one too, right?
I hope this will be released in a new box set as well. They did it for Indiana Jones and Star Wars (eventually). So this one too, right?
Thedaz, yes I have seen a blu-ray demo in circuit city. I too was blown away by it. But understand something, the leap from DVD to blu-ray isn't as great in terms of quality as it was from VHS to DVD. I think we can all agree on that. And croweyes1121 you can find it as silly as you want, my mind is made up. IT has nothing to do with the fact that the PS3 has other functions. Where the hell do you get this stuff? I just don't like the fact that the PS is the ONLY player that can consistently play all blu-ray discs on the market.Head on over to digitalbits.com and witness the problems had by purchasers of Transformers, Iron-Man and the classic James Bond blu-ray discs to name a few. Surely you don't think that those people that purchased standalone players shouldn't be able to view their discs because they didn't purchase a PS3 like you. You couldn't possibly be that big of an ass. Thanks to all the rest of you for your advice. It was very helpful. Most of all it was kind. Most of the people that frequent boards like this can't seem to grasp the fact that just because someone can't see you to get their hands on you doesn't mean that you have to be a rude b*****d.
And bouncy X you kick much ass!!!!
And bouncy X you kick much ass!!!!
As I understand it, Eric Stoltz shot eight weeks of filming for BTTF. Is that enough to do an alternate cut? These days, with all these various cuts, I am surprised Universal doesn't milk the name even further with an alternate cut. I would buy into it, instead of a re-release with, OH MY GOD, a featurette of the ride!!111
I'll buy the 2-disc SE of the first movie, but not the other two since I own the trilogy box set and give my box set copy of the first movie to someone else.
Why not wait until 2010 and release a 25th AE of the first movie and 2-disc editions of the 2nd and 3rd movies on SD and BD, unless that is their plan?
Why not wait until 2010 and release a 25th AE of the first movie and 2-disc editions of the 2nd and 3rd movies on SD and BD, unless that is their plan?
So Universal realeses it again and the "Huey Louis" music video ois still on the Part 2 dvd well hope fully when it hits Blu-ray this will be put on the first movie extras by then(it's 1 thing thats bugged me about the trilogy set).
wow...again someone mentioned the "rebuying every movie" argument. that just doesnt make sense, why would you have to rebuy everything? blu-ray players play DVD and even upscale them, sure its not as good as a blu-ray image but its better than normal dvd. there's no need to rebuy a thing unless you're one of those people who has to have every movie flawless. i admit there's 2 or 3 movies i've rebought but only because i like them a lot and watch them a lot. but 99.99999% of my dvd collection is not gonna be updated, they're staying dvd.
i dont understand why people constantly bring this argument up. the funny thing is, its almost always the type of people who wouldnt bother rebuying a thing in the first place anyway so i guess they just wanna whine for the sake of it. i mean seriously....if you dont wanna rebuy anything then do your researche and realize you dont have to and then just dont.
i dont understand why people constantly bring this argument up. the funny thing is, its almost always the type of people who wouldnt bother rebuying a thing in the first place anyway so i guess they just wanna whine for the sake of it. i mean seriously....if you dont wanna rebuy anything then do your researche and realize you dont have to and then just dont.
sildu: I'm not being hostile to you in any way. Just trying to give you the best info I can. See the other responses to your message back to me (listed above). They probably say it better than I can. In any case, I fully agree with you that it is 100% your right not to buy a PS3 if you would rather purchase a standalone. And it is 100% my right to find it silly that your only reason for not buying one is that it doesn't *only* play movies but has other functions as well. But hey, that's your choice. No hostility here. I just have my opinion, you have yours. And I have mine *about* yours as well. Peace.
I am not into Blu-ray and thats my choice, I dont like or hate Blu-ray. When I have to switch its no problem, Blu-ray is nothing to be afraid of, its just another DVD format. But for someone to insult the people who favor Blu-ray is just plain ignorant. If you still are into VHS thats fine but dont tell someone there 'gay' for liking something you don't. And another thing, did it ever occur to you that there might be some actual gay people on this board and this might be seen as offensive. Guess not or else you wouldn't have said what you said.
Not being a gay person, it's still pretty f**king annoying and beyond offensive. I can't believe there are still such ignorant people out there.
I wouldn't give him the credit of being a 15-year-old. 15-year-olds know how to use proper grammar...
I wouldn't give him the credit of being a 15-year-old. 15-year-olds know how to use proper grammar...
Frilsh wrote: Michael Friedrichsen wrote: This is just to stupid to release this trilogy on a dying format. Blu Ray is the future of Home Entertainment
Enough said ;-)
Oh HELL No. Blu Ray Is Beyond Gay. I'm Sorry But Blu Ray Is Just Horrible, And Anyone Who Likes It Is A Retard.
VHS All The Way Baby
Nothing erks me more then when someone describes something as GAY? I know you were making a joke about VHS/Bluray, but how is something GAY? Does it date some one of the same sex? It usually is used by 15 year old boys who are too stupid to come up with a proper adjective to describe there dislike for something.
Being a GAY person, it is pretty F**king annoying.
Enough said ;-)
Oh HELL No. Blu Ray Is Beyond Gay. I'm Sorry But Blu Ray Is Just Horrible, And Anyone Who Likes It Is A Retard.
VHS All The Way Baby
Nothing erks me more then when someone describes something as GAY? I know you were making a joke about VHS/Bluray, but how is something GAY? Does it date some one of the same sex? It usually is used by 15 year old boys who are too stupid to come up with a proper adjective to describe there dislike for something.
Being a GAY person, it is pretty F**king annoying.
Michael Friedrichsen wrote: This is just to stupid to release this trilogy on a dying format. Blu Ray is the future of Home Entertainment
Enough said ;-)
Oh HELL No. Blu Ray Is Beyond Gay. I'm Sorry But Blu Ray Is Just Horrible, And Anyone Who Likes It Is A Retard.
VHS All The Way Baby
Enough said ;-)
Oh HELL No. Blu Ray Is Beyond Gay. I'm Sorry But Blu Ray Is Just Horrible, And Anyone Who Likes It Is A Retard.
VHS All The Way Baby
This is just to stupid to release this trilogy on a dying format. Blu Ray is the future of Home Entertainment
Enough said ;-)
Enough said ;-)
sildu wrote: Croweyes1121, why are you so hostile towards me? If I don't want to purchase a playstation 3, that's my right. I do fully understand everything you said. It has never been broken down like that before. But I'm still gonna wait until they address this firmware issue because I want a standalone player and not a PS3. Nothing against games, I just prefer movies. DVDs are so easy in the sense that once you pop them into the player, you're good to go. Blu-ray not so. UNless you have a PS3. Ishouldn't have to purchase a game console to view blu-ray titles and extras the way the filmmakers intended. That's my right and I make no apologies for it.
By the way thanks Bouncy X. You're the f#cking bomb dude!
Sildu--
While a agree firmware updates are, at worst, a MINOR pain in the A, it's really not that big a deal. I bought a PS3 on launch day when it came out. Not because I'm a gamer, but because it is one of the better BD players out there. Besides the point, I essentially got mine for free as I bought 5 on launch day and sold the other 4 for a ridiculous amount of money.
For my money, I'm happy with something else. Unfortunately it's been discontinued, but can still be picked up aftermarket: LG-BH200. It's a hybrid player that plays HD-DVD's as well as Blu-ray, and is also hackable to play Blu-ray discs from other regions as well as DVD's from other regions. I paid $299USD for it on sale, brand new, and even bought a second one for the bedroom for about $250. And you know how many firmware updates it's required? One. ONE. Know how long it took? About five minutes. I downloaded the firmware update, put it on a USB Flashcard ($10), plugged it into the player, and upgraded the firmware. Not a trial of an experience.
By the way thanks Bouncy X. You're the f#cking bomb dude!
Sildu--
While a agree firmware updates are, at worst, a MINOR pain in the A, it's really not that big a deal. I bought a PS3 on launch day when it came out. Not because I'm a gamer, but because it is one of the better BD players out there. Besides the point, I essentially got mine for free as I bought 5 on launch day and sold the other 4 for a ridiculous amount of money.
For my money, I'm happy with something else. Unfortunately it's been discontinued, but can still be picked up aftermarket: LG-BH200. It's a hybrid player that plays HD-DVD's as well as Blu-ray, and is also hackable to play Blu-ray discs from other regions as well as DVD's from other regions. I paid $299USD for it on sale, brand new, and even bought a second one for the bedroom for about $250. And you know how many firmware updates it's required? One. ONE. Know how long it took? About five minutes. I downloaded the firmware update, put it on a USB Flashcard ($10), plugged it into the player, and upgraded the firmware. Not a trial of an experience.
sildu, have you actually seen a Blu-ray disc image from a top quality, well calibrated, large HDTV? If you have, I find it hard to believe you'd have your current attitude.
The first time I wandered into a store and saw Blu-ray, I was amazed. It was the same level of amazement I felt when I first saw DVD.
Sony and Panasonic (the leading brands) have profile 2.0 players ready out of the box, and soon I'm sure it will be standard, so there's no issue.
To deny a Blu-ray player in your system is to deny yourself enjoying movies at another level. If you're happy to do that, good luck to you.
The first time I wandered into a store and saw Blu-ray, I was amazed. It was the same level of amazement I felt when I first saw DVD.
Sony and Panasonic (the leading brands) have profile 2.0 players ready out of the box, and soon I'm sure it will be standard, so there's no issue.
To deny a Blu-ray player in your system is to deny yourself enjoying movies at another level. If you're happy to do that, good luck to you.
thankfully i never picked up the box set.
i <3 back to the future, but then again... who doesn't.
i <3 back to the future, but then again... who doesn't.
sildu wrote: Croweyes1121, why are you so hostile towards me? If I don't want to purchase a playstation 3, that's my right. I do fully understand everything you said. It has never been broken down like that before. But I'm still gonna wait until they address this firmware issue because I want a standalone player and not a PS3. Nothing against games, I just prefer movies. DVDs are so easy in the sense that once you pop them into the player, you're good to go. Blu-ray not so. UNless you have a PS3. Ishouldn't have to purchase a game console to view blu-ray titles and extras the way the filmmakers intended. That's my right and I make no apologies for it.
By the way thanks Bouncy X. You're the f#cking bomb dude!
Criterion uses PS3 as their reference BD Player, so no it's not just a "Game Console", it's one of the top BD Player out there that many people just bought it just to play BD. PS3 decode all HD Audio and process one of the best PQ out there. But of course you are entitle to get a Standalone, if you want.
And if you want a Standalone, you can get the BD35 or BD55 with pretty much the same price with the PS3, and both BD35/55 had been regards as among the best out there. BD55 does everything that you wanna do with Blu-Ray, it's profile 2.0 and both Bitstream and Internal Decoding all HD Audio.
But Updating firmware will never go away. Because why should it go away? Updating firmware allows you to upgrade your player to new capabilities, so after you bought the player it can be improve without having to buy a new one. It is actually an advantage to you, b/c you bought something and it can be update while sitting at home, without having to buy a new one every time they want to introduce new features.
By the way thanks Bouncy X. You're the f#cking bomb dude!
Criterion uses PS3 as their reference BD Player, so no it's not just a "Game Console", it's one of the top BD Player out there that many people just bought it just to play BD. PS3 decode all HD Audio and process one of the best PQ out there. But of course you are entitle to get a Standalone, if you want.
And if you want a Standalone, you can get the BD35 or BD55 with pretty much the same price with the PS3, and both BD35/55 had been regards as among the best out there. BD55 does everything that you wanna do with Blu-Ray, it's profile 2.0 and both Bitstream and Internal Decoding all HD Audio.
But Updating firmware will never go away. Because why should it go away? Updating firmware allows you to upgrade your player to new capabilities, so after you bought the player it can be improve without having to buy a new one. It is actually an advantage to you, b/c you bought something and it can be update while sitting at home, without having to buy a new one every time they want to introduce new features.
sildu wrote: I can't for the life of me understand what all the fuss is about concerning blu-ray. If it's that freaking great, you'd think that the d#ckheads that came up with the concept would have designed them like regular dvds. You know, just insert disc and press play. From what I'm reading online, there's a ton of people that have been buying discs that won't even play. You have to do something called a firmware update. Sometimes even that won't work. So in essence, you've flushed $50 for a damned blu-ray disc down the proverbial toilet. The only system that will consistently play them is the playstation 3. Stand-alone blu-ray players won't even play a lot of the discs that are out. If I spent $500-$1,000 on a stand-alone player and couldn't play my discs, I'd be pissed. So until they eliminate firmware updating on these things altogether, make mine dvd for life. I don't need to see everything in the backgrounds that clearly. Regular dvd is great with me. Another thing I don't understand about blu-ray is the whole 1080p thing. I'll elaborate. They say that regular dvd has twice the resolution of videotape at 480 lines of resolution. Since videotape is around 240-270 lines of resolution, that's about right. They say blu-ray is 6 times sharper than regular dvds. At only 1080p, something isn't adding up. If it really were 6 times sharper, wouldn't that make them 2880p? Something smells awful fishy..... Like I say, make mine dvd!!!!
It is impressive, the quality of how far these digital Frisbees have went since 1997. The widescreen format and fairly decent picture quality impressed me when I was first exposed to DVDs. Now, the bluray comes way – and it is even more impressive
But…there are more drawbacks…
First, and the biggest flaw I see, is rebuying everything over AGAIN. For movie buff purists out there, they will buy into the scheme. And it helps as well, when you have both bluray and Play Station 3 players, playing bluray and DVD sets. That shows versatility. But what bothers me, is you can't play a bluray disc in a DVD player. I mostly play my DVDs on my PC or laptop. I don't get the full home movie theater effect. But I still enjoy it…(and I have my Panasonic stereo connect to my PC, so I still get the surround sound mishmash).
I already checked into seeing how to play a bluray disc in a PC, and it is a lot of money, just to get a drive (plus a whole other assortment of bs).
Also, you need a kickass plasma/widescreen/digital/ect-ect TV to really appreciate the perfection of bluray. That's something I, nor my household – has – nor needs.
Going back to rebuying everything over again, I, like a lot of people these days, invested money into the standard DVD sets. I am not about to rebuy everything over again, which is why I see the useless need of a bluray player.
What also bothers me, and I don't think this has ever been thought about, but many people have converted from VHS to DVD within the past decade. Some were reluctant at first, since the laser disc fad (remember that?!?!), didn't last that long. Finally, once VHS weren't being made anymore, people HAD to cave in with DVD players, and sets. By then, the price was reasonable.
DVDs, as huge as it is right now, is still a new thing. It bothers me that there is already an upgrade…it hasn't even been that long.
And because of that, the overall general public isn't buying into the bluray fad. Some don't even know much about it…
With all of that said, my feeling is this – I won't cave in until the very last DVD player is dismantled, and DVD sets no longer exist. Some say that may happen…but they forget the key factor to what I just pointed out.
I am happy with standard DVD sets, and much rather desire to see stuff that still hasn't seen the light of day on digital video discs, rather than upgrades, followed by double dipping of s**t we already have, and don't need again…and again…and again!
It is impressive, the quality of how far these digital Frisbees have went since 1997. The widescreen format and fairly decent picture quality impressed me when I was first exposed to DVDs. Now, the bluray comes way – and it is even more impressive
But…there are more drawbacks…
First, and the biggest flaw I see, is rebuying everything over AGAIN. For movie buff purists out there, they will buy into the scheme. And it helps as well, when you have both bluray and Play Station 3 players, playing bluray and DVD sets. That shows versatility. But what bothers me, is you can't play a bluray disc in a DVD player. I mostly play my DVDs on my PC or laptop. I don't get the full home movie theater effect. But I still enjoy it…(and I have my Panasonic stereo connect to my PC, so I still get the surround sound mishmash).
I already checked into seeing how to play a bluray disc in a PC, and it is a lot of money, just to get a drive (plus a whole other assortment of bs).
Also, you need a kickass plasma/widescreen/digital/ect-ect TV to really appreciate the perfection of bluray. That's something I, nor my household – has – nor needs.
Going back to rebuying everything over again, I, like a lot of people these days, invested money into the standard DVD sets. I am not about to rebuy everything over again, which is why I see the useless need of a bluray player.
What also bothers me, and I don't think this has ever been thought about, but many people have converted from VHS to DVD within the past decade. Some were reluctant at first, since the laser disc fad (remember that?!?!), didn't last that long. Finally, once VHS weren't being made anymore, people HAD to cave in with DVD players, and sets. By then, the price was reasonable.
DVDs, as huge as it is right now, is still a new thing. It bothers me that there is already an upgrade…it hasn't even been that long.
And because of that, the overall general public isn't buying into the bluray fad. Some don't even know much about it…
With all of that said, my feeling is this – I won't cave in until the very last DVD player is dismantled, and DVD sets no longer exist. Some say that may happen…but they forget the key factor to what I just pointed out.
I am happy with standard DVD sets, and much rather desire to see stuff that still hasn't seen the light of day on digital video discs, rather than upgrades, followed by double dipping of s**t we already have, and don't need again…and again…and again!
BoBoi wrote: Bring on the Blu-Ray already. This release is pointless!
Point taken.
Point taken.
firmware upgrades
Firmware upgrades have been around for awhile now, and it's not just a blu-ray thing. DVD players have firmware upgrades available for them too, unfortunately, a lot of people are uneducated about these things and don't realize that if you keep your electronics up to date, you won't have as many problems with them. Lots of players out there have problems playing certain Disney, Fox or Sony discs, if these players had their firmware updates, they would be able to play these discs without any hassles.
As for firmware updates for blu-ray players; if you have your blu-ray player connected to a phone line, your upgrades happen without you having to do any work, it's only if you don't have it connected to a phone line that you have to download the upgrade, burn it to a disc and then load it in your player.
I understand that the majority of the public is not aware of these upgrades, but if they did, they would be much happier. Technology changes so rapidly now, that you have to have these updates, or your player won't work they way you will want it to because it will be outdated.
Firmware upgrades are not really anything to be afraid of, or something to be upset about, it's just the way it is.
As for firmware updates for blu-ray players; if you have your blu-ray player connected to a phone line, your upgrades happen without you having to do any work, it's only if you don't have it connected to a phone line that you have to download the upgrade, burn it to a disc and then load it in your player.
I understand that the majority of the public is not aware of these upgrades, but if they did, they would be much happier. Technology changes so rapidly now, that you have to have these updates, or your player won't work they way you will want it to because it will be outdated.
Firmware upgrades are not really anything to be afraid of, or something to be upset about, it's just the way it is.
Souldn't they just wait til' Back to the Future IV? Due to how many times they release this I wouldn't be surprised to see a direct to DVD sequel with different actors.
Bouncy X wrote: Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: Yeah, II and III were the fullscreen versions but with black bars on top and bottom if I remember correctly.
well not exactly....it wasnt as bad as fullscreen with black bars but they were misframed for some reason. honestly it wasnt noticeable unless someone told or showed me. the only place i noticed it myself was in Part 2 when Marty pushes the button for his jacket to dry. normally you saw his hand actually hit the button but with this error his hand was out of frame.
Apologies for the misinformation, that's what I had heard a long time ago, and no one ever corrected me until now, thanks and sorry.
That's the best example there, the jacket fitting sequence from II.
I bought the trilogy set a while ago, like, early '05 I think. I see no real reason to upgrade. And I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I always saw BTTF as one 6 hour movie, like STII-IV or the first two Godfathers.
well not exactly....it wasnt as bad as fullscreen with black bars but they were misframed for some reason. honestly it wasnt noticeable unless someone told or showed me. the only place i noticed it myself was in Part 2 when Marty pushes the button for his jacket to dry. normally you saw his hand actually hit the button but with this error his hand was out of frame.
Apologies for the misinformation, that's what I had heard a long time ago, and no one ever corrected me until now, thanks and sorry.
That's the best example there, the jacket fitting sequence from II.
I bought the trilogy set a while ago, like, early '05 I think. I see no real reason to upgrade. And I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I always saw BTTF as one 6 hour movie, like STII-IV or the first two Godfathers.
I enjoyed the 1st film more than the other 2, I will double-dip on the 2-disc Back To The Future and keep the trilogy. What sold me is the artwork, and the fact that it's one of my top 50 all-time favorite films. that works for me.
Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: Yeah, II and III were the fullscreen versions but with black bars on top and bottom if I remember correctly.
well not exactly....it wasnt as bad as fullscreen with black bars but they were misframed for some reason. honestly it wasnt noticeable unless someone told or showed me. the only place i noticed it myself was in Part 2 when Marty pushes the button for his jacket to dry. normally you saw his hand actually hit the button but with this error his hand was out of frame.
and Sildu....you're right, i am the bomb.
well not exactly....it wasnt as bad as fullscreen with black bars but they were misframed for some reason. honestly it wasnt noticeable unless someone told or showed me. the only place i noticed it myself was in Part 2 when Marty pushes the button for his jacket to dry. normally you saw his hand actually hit the button but with this error his hand was out of frame.
and Sildu....you're right, i am the bomb.
I MAY pick these up if it's the fixed version of Part 2...
i just bought the current trilogy release like 36 hours ago for 12 bucks.
i'm good.
i'm good.
I don't think in Europe we ever got the Bob Gale/Neil Canton commentaries released, which is a letdown.
I just checked my original trilogy boxset (the black one) and it has the framing errors on it. Thats how attentive I am
Probably too late to get them replaced, might just have to import these for the correct versions and new commentaries.
I just checked my original trilogy boxset (the black one) and it has the framing errors on it. Thats how attentive I am
Probably too late to get them replaced, might just have to import these for the correct versions and new commentaries.
Yeah, II and III were the fullscreen versions but with black bars on top and bottom if I remember correctly. It was like the Superman Collection two years ago, send the discs back, and you got replacements. But if you bought them later, the discs were replaced. There's a link in the forums somewhere, one of the first threads made I think.
Mine had the replaced II, but I think III was still "defective"...
Edit:
Here, hopefully this can help: http://www.angelfire.com/film/bttf2/
Mine had the replaced II, but I think III was still "defective"...
Edit:
Here, hopefully this can help: http://www.angelfire.com/film/bttf2/
Question: I own the original trilogy and I recall reading that set had some issues with the framing of the video? Can anyone clarify? I'm not enough of an expert to see problems like that.
Croweyes1121, why are you so hostile towards me? If I don't want to purchase a playstation 3, that's my right. I do fully understand everything you said. It has never been broken down like that before. But I'm still gonna wait until they address this firmware issue because I want a standalone player and not a PS3. Nothing against games, I just prefer movies. DVDs are so easy in the sense that once you pop them into the player, you're good to go. Blu-ray not so. UNless you have a PS3. Ishouldn't have to purchase a game console to view blu-ray titles and extras the way the filmmakers intended. That's my right and I make no apologies for it.
By the way thanks Bouncy X. You're the f#cking bomb dude!
By the way thanks Bouncy X. You're the f#cking bomb dude!
thedaz wrote: Where's the Eric Stoltz footage?
I wonder the same thing. I think Universal just don't want to spend the money to clear the footage or that the amount they would have to pay would break the budget for the release (I hope the reason is the second one).
I wonder the same thing. I think Universal just don't want to spend the money to clear the footage or that the amount they would have to pay would break the budget for the release (I hope the reason is the second one).
I am happy about this release
BoBoi wrote: Bring on the Blu-Ray already. This release is pointless!Exactly! This is beyond madness!
They have the Back to the Future ride footage as a feature? Definite Buy!
so they made a 2-disc for BttF, but then decide to scimp you on 2 and 3. Sorry but not for me.
I am so getting this, next year.
I will also add my voice to the chorus of people here who've never had any problems with Blu-ray playback on any title. I also don't know of *any* single film I've paid $50 for on the format. Even at a retailer. Check ONLINE for the real deals on software. Blu-ray versions - with a few exceptions - are usually pretty comparably priced to their standard def counterparts. Example: your Blu-ray premium on amazon right now for The Dark Knight over the comparably-featured two-disc DVD release? $3.
http://images.blu-ray.com/reviews/608_16_1080p....
There you go, sildu. That's Blu-ray quality for you.
http://images.blu-ray.com/reviews/608_16_1080p....
There you go, sildu. That's Blu-ray quality for you.
The footage for the ride "wait in line" movie was shot by Peyton Reed. That makes it a must for Reed completists like myslf.
However, it was already a must for Zemeeckis completists, again like myself.
However, it was already a must for Zemeeckis completists, again like myself.
Why didn't they just release the Blu-ray version?
One more thing. VHS actually has a resolution of 330x480 (158400 pixels)...which would make DVD's 720x480 (345600 pixels) approx. 2.18 times higher. Hope that explains everything.
Now's the time to get a PS3 too, great deals on the way. BluRay is beautiful, and I've had no problems playing any title. If this would have come out on BR, I would get it, I guess its still going to be a waiting game though, unfortunately.
Screw it. I can't just let you not understand this, it bugs me.
DVD Resolution: 720x480 (NTSC)
Blu-Ray Resolution: 1920x1080
720 times 480 = 345600 pixels.
1920 times 1080 = 2073600 pixels.
2073600 divided by 345600 = 6.
Hence Blu-ray has six times the amount of pixels of picture information as a standard DVD. Hope that makes sense.
DVD Resolution: 720x480 (NTSC)
Blu-Ray Resolution: 1920x1080
720 times 480 = 345600 pixels.
1920 times 1080 = 2073600 pixels.
2073600 divided by 345600 = 6.
Hence Blu-ray has six times the amount of pixels of picture information as a standard DVD. Hope that makes sense.
i wonder if that Ride feature is a sorta dvd game where you get to experience the ride at home because that would be cool, especially since the ride is gone now and those of us who never went will never know.
either way, this is indeed a pointless release, its not even an anniversary year so i'm gonna hope this is their testing waters for blu-ray, to see if the movie still sells well and things.
as for sildu, i know everyone says this and it seems like a typical and automated answer but its the truth...once you experience blu-ray, you do see what the fuss is about and you dont wanna go back. i just watched Firefly last night and while it wasnt a huge "holy s**t" difference because of the time and method it was filmed, it still beat the c**p out of my dvd version.
dont get me wrong, i'm not abandoning dvds entirely, i'll stick to them for tv series and i'm not rebuying all my movies i already own, but i've already stopped buying dvds for new releases. as for the firmware issues, if you dont care about the extras then its a non-issue...the movie still plays in any player regardless of the whole profile 1.1 / 2.0 thing. and honestly, as someone who loves extras i gotta say i've yet to see any extras that need firmwares (BD live etc...) that are even worth it, they're pointless "oooo look what i can do" gimmicks. now granted i have a PS3 so i've avoided all those problems you mentioned due to that but yeah, the problems are a minority, they just make the news more.
but if you wanna stick to dvd then do so....you have an advantage that works out because i've noticed dvd movie and player prices drop dramatically recently...so blu-ray is helping them indirectly...its sorta ironic. lol
either way, this is indeed a pointless release, its not even an anniversary year so i'm gonna hope this is their testing waters for blu-ray, to see if the movie still sells well and things.
as for sildu, i know everyone says this and it seems like a typical and automated answer but its the truth...once you experience blu-ray, you do see what the fuss is about and you dont wanna go back. i just watched Firefly last night and while it wasnt a huge "holy s**t" difference because of the time and method it was filmed, it still beat the c**p out of my dvd version.
dont get me wrong, i'm not abandoning dvds entirely, i'll stick to them for tv series and i'm not rebuying all my movies i already own, but i've already stopped buying dvds for new releases. as for the firmware issues, if you dont care about the extras then its a non-issue...the movie still plays in any player regardless of the whole profile 1.1 / 2.0 thing. and honestly, as someone who loves extras i gotta say i've yet to see any extras that need firmwares (BD live etc...) that are even worth it, they're pointless "oooo look what i can do" gimmicks. now granted i have a PS3 so i've avoided all those problems you mentioned due to that but yeah, the problems are a minority, they just make the news more.
but if you wanna stick to dvd then do so....you have an advantage that works out because i've noticed dvd movie and player prices drop dramatically recently...so blu-ray is helping them indirectly...its sorta ironic. lol
sildu: I'll let someone here who cares to explain this to you respond in better detail, but I'll just say that BD is about a LOT more than better background detail. It KILLS DVD on picture quality AND sound quality. And 95% of your problems with the format would be solved for people if they did, in fact, just BUY a freakin' PS3. But some people just refuse to have something as their player because it has the ability to play games and do one hell of a lot more than just play movies. Don't ask me to explain that. I truly can't.
I can't for the life of me understand what all the fuss is about concerning blu-ray. If it's that freaking great, you'd think that the d#ckheads that came up with the concept would have designed them like regular dvds. You know, just insert disc and press play. From what I'm reading online, there's a ton of people that have been buying discs that won't even play. You have to do something called a firmware update. Sometimes even that won't work. So in essence, you've flushed $50 for a damned blu-ray disc down the proverbial toilet. The only system that will consistently play them is the playstation 3. Stand-alone blu-ray players won't even play a lot of the discs that are out. If I spent $500-$1,000 on a stand-alone player and couldn't play my discs, I'd be pissed. So until they eliminate firmware updating on these things altogether, make mine dvd for life. I don't need to see everything in the backgrounds that clearly. Regular dvd is great with me. Another thing I don't understand about blu-ray is the whole 1080p thing. I'll elaborate. They say that regular dvd has twice the resolution of videotape at 480 lines of resolution. Since videotape is around 240-270 lines of resolution, that's about right. They say blu-ray is 6 times sharper than regular dvds. At only 1080p, something isn't adding up. If it really were 6 times sharper, wouldn't that make them 2880p? Something smells awful fishy..... Like I say, make mine dvd!!!!
So, I'm a little confused. Is there any difference between these releases and the original DVDs besides the ride feature?
Finally! Not unlike 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' I have no use for the sequels but would love to own this, I've been waiting a long time for it and have resisted buying the trilogy no matter how cheap it got. I'm one of those poor people that still buys DVD's.
It looks great against the black though. Rather than the blue choices from previous releases.
I'm with all those hoping/praying for the BD release of all 3 BTTF movies.... Off topic I know but had The Dark Knight BR ystrdy... Seriously guys & gals: PQ & AQ is out of this world!!!
Pass, i'll wait for the BD releases.
kubrickf923 wrote: I'm gonna go campout of Best Buy to get my 2 disc edition of all 3 films!!
Did you read the article? Only BTTF 1 is two disc, the others are single disc.
Did you read the article? Only BTTF 1 is two disc, the others are single disc.
Oh my god!! I'm so excited, Back to the Future is my all-time favorite movie. I'm gonna go campout of Best Buy to get my 2 disc edition of all 3 films!!
Hopeless - bring me BD or bring me nothing!
Ill probably get the first one, or maybe all 3 and part with the original box set. I liked where it says available individually for the 1st time. I thought of individually wrapped M&M's for some reason. These should be upgrades over previous releases.
Where's the Eric Stoltz footage?
If it ain't there, why bother?
P.S. The covers are darn perfect, though. I wish all DVD covers utilised the poster art and title font this well.
If it ain't there, why bother?
P.S. The covers are darn perfect, though. I wish all DVD covers utilised the poster art and title font this well.
I'm happy about this, because I don't own any of them, and I really only like the original film. So this is good news for me!
Every single previous DVD, video and theatrical releases had the exact same cover/poster. At least update it a little for the "new" generation (a.k.a. annoying teens).
these better be the covers for the eventual Blu-rays!
What's that sc**ping sound? Must be the bottom of the barrel.
Great Scott!
Very little to recommend this one over the existing releases. After this much time, there is little they can really come up with other than retrospective, talking-head type documentaries.
THE WILSON BROS
Very little to recommend this one over the existing releases. After this much time, there is little they can really come up with other than retrospective, talking-head type documentaries.
THE WILSON BROS
Bring on the Blu-Ray already. This release is pointless!
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