I want a Bruckheimer commentary, goddammit.

Bay knows b****r all about the craft of filmmaking, where as Bruckheimer does, and for any filmmaker (like myself) Bruckheimer's insight is - you know - actually insightful. Where as Bay genuinely thinks he's this generation's answer to Kubrick, Bruckheimer knows Bay is a hack, and discusses these films as such.

bucspy1 wrote:
Love him or hate him, you can't trash Michael Bay for plot holes - he doesn't write the scripts.

Sure, he doesn't write the scripts, but he's the director for Chrissake. He has the authority to change that stuff!

He is a hack director, but he makes money. Not much in this world is fair, and far fewer people have good taste than those who have bad taste. Most people want to be mind-numbingly entertained, and for tapping into that, Michael Bay is a genious.

MattBelanger wrote: [quote=tanviper wrote]Bad Boys and the Rock are the ONLY two Bay films I would buy again on Blu-ray. One of the worst, over hyped, directors working today.


1st, you assume I pay to watch his movies, I don't. 2nd, what you call "not close to terrible" is your thoughts, not mine. You don't see  Scott, Spielberg, Cameron, or Eastwood getting knocked like Bay does. There's a reason people bash his movies, cause they suck. Sure, preteen boys may see them 20 times, but how many adults actually go to repeat showing of them? I would bet not very many.
 
I'm not knocking him as a person, I'm sure he's a nice guy, I just hate how he directs, his "stories" are thinly concealed steaming piles of c**p, and he can't edit to save his life. He's TOTALLY inconsistent in that regards.

just a few examples:

Bad boys 2: They invade Cuba...really??? I guess they turned into supermen in a deleted scene because they manage to dodge all the bullets the Cuban army is firing at them.

Armageddon: Lets just throw out how the shuttle works, we don't need to actually fuel those huge ass engines on the back of it, to say NOTHING of how nuking the asteroid wouldn't work in real life, or how the Mir space station didn't operate with only one crew member or that it looked NOTHING like that inside of it. At the speed that asteroid was going , those "shuttles" would have been ripped to shreds before they even got to it, much less LAND on it.REALLY??? Where did the Russian get his special anti-zero gravity suit from, they're tailored made. Bay must not watch his own c**p, because he always has scenes that start off in light, but seconds later, it's pitch black. Where the hell did the last few hours go?

Transformers 1 and 2: Other then the special effects, these movies are c**p. no story, paper then characters, plot holes you can drive a auto-bot through, and shot gun editing. Again, light-night problems and rushed pacing.

If you like his movies, more power to you. Hollywood keeps hiring Van Damn, Eddie Murphy, the rock, Jack Black also, so your point doesn't make a lot of sense. Bay makes money for the studio, so he keeps getting work, I'll give you that. My argument isn't that he's losing money, he's just dumbing down the action movies to the lowest common denominator, namely, people with preteen IQ s and throws a few story ideas into a blender and directs whatever trash oozes out. He's a talentless hack who should go back to Music videos.

I am ready for a third one. I thought part 2 was really good, better than the first even

Don't forget the much maligned Uwe Boll, who has never made a decent movie in his whole "career."

I love the Bad Boys movies.  I hope they do a third.  I'll wait for a trilogy set.

Bad Boys and the Rock are the ONLY two Bay films I would buy again on Blu-ray. One of the worst, over hyped, directors working today.

Vaguely remember these but agree...a Bad Boys trilogy will work.

cool. hopefully they`ll be a box set with BB2 in so i`ll wait. BB3..any news?