I have the UMD for this one, it was 3 for 20 sheets and I wasn't fussed about getting the DVD due to lackof extensive extras and the fact that the film although really good, isn't as good as some others of a similar nature in my collection.

The UMD's really fun though, weird carrying round the latest Bond film in your pocket

It looks like it. The cheap R3 will do me until I get the BD, the R4 will only be expensive (compared against the R3 anyway).

R4 details: http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/791392
OMG check out the gorgeous R4 LE: http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/792071

Great to see Casino Royale BD geting a PCM 5.1 track (HDs answer to DTS), it's going to rock.

With that number of audio tracks and the films length it's going to have to be a BD50 (Dual Layer) which is a good thing.

RalphFiennes wrote: Based on the above list of extras and the running times given for each extra feature for the R1 version, there are 2 documentaries that run at 30 minutes each and 1 that runs at 50 minutes.
I didn't realise the lengths had been released thanks. That would be over 4 hours of footage (including the film) on one DVD-9, not something I'd want. A 2 Disc release (DVD-5 + DVD-9 no doubt) was in order.

socrates17 wrote: I'd rather buy the Region 1, but I've never owned a DVD player that wasn't global.

Get the R3! Its out first (in a month) and is a mere £9.99! :D

RalphFiennes wrote: Agreed.  Sony have made plenty of discs that have released the same number of features on just the 1 disc.
For all we know each extra could be 1hr long so lets wait until we know how long each extra is before making sweeping statements that it should be on 1 disc.

GavSalkeld wrote: No way. Many of them are cut, and still are - even the new "uncut versions".
Which ones?

If you mean cuts made during edits which happens to 100% of films those don't make it cut. None of them are cut any more.

socrates17 wrote: Does the UK version of Casino Royale have Region Code Enhancement or is RCE still a Region 1 only perversion.
Back when RCE came out a small batch of Region 3 MGM titles were RCE but this quickly got pulled and replaced with standard R3 versions. Except for that RCE has only "ever" been used on Region 1 DVDs.

In other there is no way this will be anything other than Region 2 or Region 2/4 dual encoded.

Hi Samuel.

I don't 'believe that just about every film has to have some kind of extended edition!' Many films should never have had extended editions - Donnie Darko being a prime example!

I know Peter Jackson didn't make this film and I know the 007 series has had no history of extended editions. But this rebooted Bond, released by Sony, could potentially be a first. There are no deleted scenes on this edition and the extras are extremely limited. Plus we know that Sony don't have a problem with reissuing Bond films with a higher classification.

So who's to say we won't get a balls out (excuse the pun!) different version of the film this time, including a commentary by Martin Campbell?!

Casino Royale broke with many Bond filmic traditions on-screen, so perhaps it will break with the tradition of no extended cuts too!

Anyone reckon they'll go for a 15-rated/R-Rated super-dooper extended DVD version of the film with loads of extras in a few months' time?

so same vinilla cover has R1 it seems.

No commentary...that's so lame. This didn't even need to be 2-disc. I'm not even sure I'm going to pick this up now...

Shame no commentary. This isn't really an Ultimate Edition now.

I'll have a look, my good man, it was so long ago I read it online.

Incidentally the MPAA passed this long before the BBFC did, and the reason for this is because the filmmakers had to go away and re-cut the film, then let the BBFC see it again before it being passed as a 12A.

The BBFC-sanctioned version is the version used in Ireland, England, Wales and Scotland. The uncut version (i.e. the version with full torture scene intact) was released elsewhere.

I have reason to believe the International (non UK) version is totally uncut, again from someone close to the film and the fact Michael Wilson said in the press that the US edition is unscatched in the torture scene proves this.

We'll all see when its released, its the first thing I'm going to check on my R3 copy for one.

Now that MGM are dipping their toes into definitive editions, I guess we can expect all the Bonds to be re-released under the banner of 'definitive' in 2008 for the cinematic release of Bond 22.  I daresay the specs of this one will be brought up to at least the standards of the other 20 films at that point.  Myself, I'm not bothered.  I don't really bother with extra features anymore as they all tend to be the same rubbish talking about how bluescreen technology works and other stuff we've heard a dozen times before on a dozen films that are similarly made.  The only times extras are interesting are when they talk about stuff that is (or was at the time) cutting edge, such as the excellent "Empire of Dreams" documentary on the Star Wars set, or the Lord of the Rings documentaries, or the excellent Red Dwarf documentaries.  Deleted scenes are generally deleted for good reason, and bloopers are often just the cast flubbing their lines and laughing at each other.  As for commentaries, I'm with Mr Spielberg - not a fan.

But I'll be happy enough with Casino Royale in the form outlined above, and will be picking it up for a fiver or so in the summer.

Quote: Assumed the region 2 would still be cut, was wondering whether the pre-cutting applied to the US release as well. I'm guessing they simply released the same version here as all other territories but it would have been enough for me to buy the region 1 had it been uncut.
I heard the USA Theatrical Cut was the same cut :-(

Quote: In fact, the US theatrical is the same as the UK and in addition has more slight trims throughout the films.
Really? Any source links?

I wouldn't get too hung up over the cuts to Casino Royale. Only one CU shot of the end of the rope was cut. The actual torture scene is the same as it was prior to the BBFC's involvement. In fact, the US theatrical is the same as the UK and in addition has more slight trims throughout the films. You may find though, that all regions are conformed so that they are the same. This is reliable info from parties close to production.

The only substantial extras seem to be the Becoming Bond and James Bond for Real featurettes, however long and exhaustive they may be. Does anyone know if the US version is the same as the pre-cut UK theatrical release (the rope torture scene was toned down at the behest of the BBFC)?