carlvjack wrote:

That is what confused me about the movie and I felt the writers and director kind of messed up with the direction of the film.  They were talking about how the media fell for the big push for the Iraq war but instead focused on some soldiers going to Afghanistan.

What I "think" the director was trying to do but did not emphasize enough was how much attention was focused on Iraq and the government lost focus on Afghanistan.

Tom Cruise hit the nail on the head about where our country's focus though when he said that Afghanistan will always be a third world country at best but Iraq has potential.

You see this is what I mean.

Iraq WAS a farce.  A con.  He was a Muslim problem for other Muslims he was no threat to us.

Human Rights WAS an issue (Muslims who have never seen Iraq shout, burn and plot a lot over iraq, yet cared not one bit when Saddam was chopping off the ears of these Muslim brothers they suddenly care sooooo much about), but as we see there are far worse human Rights abusers than Saddam and his gang.

Iraq was not only a con, but a waste of men and resources that WILL be needed eleswhere.
That does not mean a like all these anti-West films in the middle of a war though, especially those that ignore the utter, unique barbarity and real threat of the Islamic world.

But Afghanistan is utterly different.  It WAS a terrorist base connected to 9/11.
It is in fact (although the others don't pull their weight) a UNITED NATIONS mission.
And if anyone want to defend the Taleban....feel free to defend the Nazis too.

But Afghanistan always gets linked in with Iraq, people still wrongly think its a Brit/American, f**k the U.N. mission and people still go on about those poor 'invaded' Afghans...forgetting the Afghan people were very happy to wave goodbye to the murderous Taleban, Afghan people worlk side by side as Policeman and soldiers with Western troops to fight the Taleban etc etc etc.

The only 'wrong' in Afghanistan is that, yes, it's so badly planned and resourced.  But that's the typical farce the current Amercan and UK governments love so much.

But, unless you take an utterly 'we will not get involved in anything at all, no matter what the provocation or right, no matter where it is' stance then I fail to see why anyone is against the war in Afghanitsan or the reasons why we are there.

moan about the waste of troops and men in Iraq we NEED in Afghanistan, moan about the lack of funding for Afghanistan, moan about botched planning in Afghanistan...But don't moan about Afghanistan from any moral or idealogical stance as yo have not got one.  Not when fighting a terrorist base connected to 9/11 and a regime that hacks the heads of teachers who educate girls.

As such no films based on that stance are welcome.

mcswainiac wrote: So this movie isn't inter-species erotica? 'Cause the title sure threw me...

Well Tom Cruise is a Scientologist...

Sam Spade wrote: mcswainiac wrote: So this movie isn't inter-species erotica? 'Cause the title sure threw me...

Well Tom Cruise is a Scientologist...Exactly - and those lambs were brought down in the spaceship with them...

I think I'll rent before i buy it. Only because Meryl Streep is in it. Not for science boy Queer TOM.