Iam for sure picking up this box set first day it comes out but does any body else think that it looks like of cheaply made?

Quote: Originally posted by MAX 314
...it's unfortunate that you don't want to accept alternative forms of cinema.

You shouldn't make assumptions on anyone without any real knowledge of what or who you are talking about.  I accept any form of cinema in all forms and genres and have compiled a fairly eclectic and  varying DVD collection with my hard earned cash to back that up.  

Plus, I would hardly call THE MATRIX films an 'alternative form of cinema'...what a joke of a statement that is.

"...everyone knows, when you make an assumption, you make an ass out of 'u' and 'umption'".

Wow if you're a major fan of the movies then this must be something to drool over.
I'm not so I won't be getting it since I like the first and second but couldn't care less right now about the third. The animatrix is a lot of fun though.
Anyways cool set... wish they did something like this for Poltergiest... eh yeah right, but I can always dream.

Quote: I think it was more because most people couldn't be bothered to put the effort in to think about them...
I would if the W. Bros put some basic thought into the movie. The speech of the East-Indian program calling Dharma, Karma. That just shows the W. Bros were scraping for ideas.
"We put all our ideas into this film"(the first matrix).
-one of the Bros. W(of course paraphrased)

hmmm.... It's weird. This is the first time that the collectors box that's more expensive, looks so bad. I think the Gift set is really stupid. The statue looks stupid. And that box? It looks like it's gonna break the first minute u open it. I like the other box that's like "The Godfather Collection." Much cooler. Good thing the better box is cheeper. Tottally buying it.

,.... Quote: Tom Normandy:
think im the only one who hated these movies?

Yeah, it's just you.  And about 95% of the world's population.  Still doesn't mean you're right though.

I found the first one very average and I hated the rest. The first is really overrated. It's just basically a pop-corn action movie.

i agree shane. no statue set for me neither

so... so thats the cover. Just the matrix code? I guess it's cool, but, I dont know. I wish it had said like "the Matrix Collection" or something. Oh well....i still LOVE it.

matrix the morei think about it, they really should release the new matrix transfer as a 2 disk DVD andmaybe have some stores pull a kill bill and give away a box to put all 3 movies in.

just my two cents

For the last time it's WB. There isn't going to be DTS.

December 7th. Nice. Birthday is the 12th so this would make a nice B-Day present.

So, is that clear case definetely the final for the collectors edition?

darn darn it (not sure if i can say damn, i dont' want to get banned here XD, oops )

i knew that $60 price tag was too good to be true.

I mean, $20 for both sequels and even as low as $10 for the original only add up to $50, and that would have ment all that extra crap for only 10 bucks....

therefore i saw this price bump coming.

i still htink it's overly worth it
figure the movies, plus multiply the price of the oriignal revisited disk by 3 and you get $95, hell, this is well worht the money.


*sorry for the math lesson*

The release date has been set for the 7th December, and prices have been bumped up a bit. The standard set will retail at $79.92, whereas the giftset will set you back around $129.92

Quote: Originally posted by John Kovac
I think why so many people don't like the sequels was because they expected too much. Everyone expected to be wowed like the first one.

Yeah, I mean, the first movie was significantly more accessible than the second and third chapters.  The first movie (for those who weren't familiar with Japanese animation, science fiction, and wildlife documentaries that displayed the beginnings of bullet-time) was an extraordinary display of conceptuals and story in a premise that wasn't too difficult to grasp.  It was obvious.  The second and third films are not obvious.  The Wachowskis needed a hit.  They made The Matrix, which only skimmed the surface of the depth they would later go into once they'd ben established as directors that could make bucks for their studio lifelines.  Then, with a fan-base, and a plethora financial support, the Wachowskis set out to make the most indepenent, alternative big-budget movie, like, ever.  And, of course, 'alternative' has that name for a reason.

Quote: Originally posted by Icy Flame
The so-called successors were just eye candy..The original had a good plot, good story. IT wasn't overwhelmed by CGI or anything like that like the sequels.

"Just eye candy"?  Yeah, they were beautifully presented with some spectacular action sequences, but most of the time in the movies was spent on 'those' monologues and presenting some very interesting discussion and building a captivating universe that puts depth and spirit into the world outlined in the first film.  Also, your idea of a "good plot" and "good story" for the first film actually culminates to an admittedly hurried interjection of 'plot' upon capturing Morpheus and suddenly introducing a rather poorly constructed excuse for tension in terms of the 'access codes' to Zion's mainframe.  Despite people's headless cries, the story to the first film had nothing at all complicated about it.  Furthermore, the "original" first film was really just an adaptation of Gibson's Neuraomancer and a concept that was not alien in the world of science fiction and Japanese animation.  What the sequels actually do is turn The Matrix from merely an offshoot of an existing medium into the Wachowskis own mythos.  The sequels are, ultimately, more original than the original, as Keanu put it, "giving flesh to a cartoon, soul to a machine".

The simplistic 'good vs. bad' premise of the first film has been shaded in.  And, unfortunately, shades of grey are not a popular medium for the usual Hollywood tripe we're used to.

Well, didn't the R1 release of A.I. have DTS?

But anyway, I don't understand people who post here and whine about hhow bad the movies are. I mean, seriously - do you walk into the store, pick up a dvd and tell the clerk that "this movie sucks, I'm not gonna buy this", put it back to the shelf and leave? I admit, I haven't seen the sequels, but I think their quality depends solely on how high expectations you put on them.

Either way, whether I'll buy this or not depends solely on whether they include that darn Japanese audio track for Animatrix in the R2 release...

Quote: Originally posted by Chris Gould
I think it was more because most people couldn't be bothered to put the effort in to think about them...
Actually I understood what was happening and I knew the hidden meaning of stuff but I still thought it was bad...

I think it was more because most people couldn't be bothered to put the effort in to think about them...

It really does annoy me when people say this. Reloaded and Revolutions were far more complex than your average Hollywood sequel, and they at least tried something new. I'll be the first to admit that they had faults, and that I was disappointed with the execution in Revolutions, but a lot of this can be forgiven when taking into accout what the Bros. were trying to accomplish. I love the first film, was positively rabid about Reloaded, but found Revolutions disappointing.

You have to remember that they lost one of the pivotal characters - the Oracle - part of the way through filming. If Gloria Foster had lived I think the third film would have been an entirely different beast.

Quote: Originally posted by MAX 314

The reason the Brothers don't do a commentary is because they themselves have their own interpretation of their work, and they don't want their interpretations to become 'the law' on interpreting The Matrix because they wanted it to be open to interpretation and received differently by everyone - that's why you have a commentary track telling you one side of the story (the poeple who felt their experience with the trilogy was a worthwhile one) and another that tells you why some people (well, most people) really resented the trilogy.  Everyone received it in a different way, and it's fantastic to see directors not only encouraging that (it's about as "£uck Hollywood" as you can get), but actually integrating it into a part of the whole artistic experience that is abstract expression.

Sorry, I just don't buy into that.  When I listen to a commentary track I want first and foremost a writer/director commentary... I want to know what was going on in the filmmaker's heads when making the film.  Having other types of commentary for the SFX work or whatever is nice and all but doesn't get to meat of the filmmaking process.  The critics' commentary on this is different and sounds a bit interesting I'll grant you that, it would have been a nice aside to actual writer/director commentary.  Instead it is all we are left with as far as the commentary tracks go.

There are several occasions where I have double dipped specifically for writer/director commentary and I would have again on this release.  As it is I will stick with what I have already sitting on my wall.

Quote: Originally posted by Icy Flame
What a waste of money. I still regret going to see Reloaded - God, that a was horrific ordeal to sit through. And you know I didn't even bother with Revolutions. I'm still waiting for it to run on TNT or TBS so I can laugh at how glitchy and hollywoodish these movies are. I still love the original, though.

Actually, the first movie is significantly more "Hollywoodish" than its successors.

What a waste of money. I still regret going to see Reloaded - God, that a was horrific ordeal to sit through. And you know I didn't even bother with Revolutions. I'm still waiting for it to run on TNT or TBS so I can laugh at how glitchy and hollywoodish these movies are. I still love the original, though.

Jesus, you just can't win with some people.

If a set includes just one extra disc (Jurassic Park, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Godfather) its too little.
If its a massive 10 disc collection, its "presumptious".

Well if the trilogy sucks don't you think its a good idea to fill it up with extras to add a little value to the suck-fest?

Well, I could not be happier!

GOD EXISTS. THANK YOU.

Quote: Originally posted by David Molinarolo
I don't care WHAT you all say, it'll look good next to my Indy, Alien, and Jurrasic Park sets.

Besides, I may put this set's discs in my 218 disc album.  Along with my Trek and B5 discs.

Did you edit your post to include the total number of DVDs you own to sound good?

I don't care WHAT you all say, it'll look good next to my Indy, Alien, and Jurrasic Park sets.

Besides, I may put this set's discs in my 218 disc album.  Along with my Trek and B5 discs.

Quote: Originally posted by floyd dylan

It's all a massive con, and very presumptious of the directors to think that their trilogy deserves 10 discs!  

Well I think their trilogy deserves 10 discs.

I'm definitely picking this up even though I own the trilogy. If it's coming out in December it would make a nice birthday or xmas present.

the video game scenes... in the video game, one of the scenes has monica bellucci kissing jada pinkett smith. and for that alone am i selling my 3 dvds already and buying this set. plus it will look a hell of a lot better on me shelf.

Quote: Originally posted by Robin Abrahamsson
I don't know about Matrix and Revolutions, but the extended cut for Reloaded is the theatrical cut with the 23 scenes shot for the video game Enter The Matrix inserted into it. This is mentioned in the details above.

Now that I think about it I don't think there ever was an idea to include extended versions of the other films. Was there?

The details above simply state that the scenes will be included, not integrated into the film as originally suggested by Jeol Silver.

Quote: Originally posted by Tom Lane
OMG this looks awesome even if it doesnt have the rumoured extended cuts from earlier on. However lets just pray this gets a simultaneous release for us Brits in time for Crimbo

Looks great though and price sounds brilliant
You stole my post.

Once again I will state my desires. Give me the best damn video and audio possible for the DVD format and house them in keepcases. That's all I want. Warner seems to be listening because their recent crop of releases have had marvelous transfers and keepcases. I will wait and buy the remastered Matrix  when it sees a separate release. For now I will rent if I desire to see them.

I certanly won't be buying this.  This is just one big marketing ploy, I'm not really interested in the endless discs of featurettes on how they made the films, as it's basically done with computers and wire-work.

I'm not interested in the philosophy of the matrix, I'm not interested in what the critics who hated the films had to say about them.

Also, it's been confirmed that all the extras that are on the discs we have now, arn't going to be in the box set.

It's all a massive con, and very presumptious of the directors to think that their trilogy deserves 10 discs!

   

Wait, so for the collector's set, the case is clear? That sucks. Does anyone think they know how much that would cost?

The clear case looks very cheap.

I gotta own the collector's giftset

Anyone have an idea of what it would cost?

As much as I think that Reloaded is horrible until the Architect shows up and Revolutions is better than people get it credit for, as a fan of trilogies, I've got to get this thing.  

When I heard it was coming out, I sold all three of the previous versions on DVD.  I'm completely intrigued by everything this set is offereing.  

I'll stick with the three I already own.

Commentary? I considered picking this up even though I already own the trilogy, but after seeming some of the features this now holds no interest for me.

"and one (Commentary) from three professional critics who hated all three films!"

Yey!  Just what every fan of the films wants.  How about the W Brothers dropping the whole mysterioso schtick and actually doing a commentary track for the films themselves.

Awesome!!!!!!` OMG this looks awesome even if it doesnt have the rumoured extended cuts from earlier on. However lets just pray this gets a simultaneous release for us Brits in time for Crimbo

Looks great though and price sounds brilliant