It's funny, Stallone said that one of the reasons Rambo 3 failed commercially was 'the poster artwork'. Hmmm.

So to ensure no such repeats, they'v gone with the 'ow me arm' artwork for Part 4. Or is he just scratching his shoulder?

I half expected at the end (trying not to spoil anything) that the door would open, his Dad would open it and it would be Connery.

"Junior! I thought I'd lost you boy".

But then I remembered Connery has retired.

Or has he?

I still think he'll turn up unannounced in Indy 4.

Actually no, YOU'RE wrong.

1) "First Blood"
2) "Rambo"
3) "Rambo: First Blood part II"
4) "Rambo III"

Die Hard 4 was realesed and marketed as a summer block buster and was PG-13...

Andy Radke wrote: This was a hell of a lot of fun to watch in the theater.  This was the first time I'd gone to a movie where the audience I sat with broke into a chant during one of the action scenes......."F**k'em up Rambo! F**k'em up!".  lol.  Worth every red cent I paid to see it just for that alone.    I thought the movie was great, not to mention extremely brutal.  Definitely getting this upon release.  I just wish I could have the same fun watching it at home as I did that night in the theater.  

id of gone to get the manager and had you thrown out lol

rebel-scum wrote: The Unrated Die Hard 4 would so NOT get a PG-13. Go and watch it before commenting. Idiot.
Regardless it still wouldn't be a tough film like Rambo 4, which was point, which you knew before posting.

There was no need to be insulting though.

Stallone talked about a Rocky Balboa Director's Cut on the commentary for that DVD but he's since said the version released is the one that should be seen so I wouldn't hold out hope for a Rambo one.

Commentary? Won't that be unintelligible?

Further details added...

I'll buy the the to disk one, even though I am not digging the tagline of "The Fight Continues"... sounds cheesy one an otherwise great film.  I just need to find a way to squeeze it ino my metal Rambo trilogy case now.

Dunny wrote: Worst Nightmare wrote: What a great comedy! I haven't laughed so hard in ages!

I guess the idea of war being sick and the on-going slaughter of innocent people in the world ended at the opening titles for you?Well no offence but I did not see this film as a documentary of sorts. If you want to analyse this movie, it is wrong on so many levels. War itself is wrong, quite simply, But this movie is a popcorn movie, nothing more. That's the way I saw it...

I don't accept that the character would have been catching snakes/fish and hammering on an anvil for 20 years with only an all out blow out of gun fire stopping him going back the U.S. to see what Ma or Pa Rambo is up to. The end of Rambo 3 (weak entry or not) seemed to end on a note of hope for the character as he frives off with Trautman. For us to catch up with hime 20 years down the line in a perma bad mood is just lazy writing and character development.

And, I don't think the inclusion of the radio conversations from 3 film back counts with regard to what I was saying.

Having said that Dave I respect your opinions on the subject but still hold fast with mine.

Sorry, I should have been clearer. When I mentioned 'best sequel to come out of the 80's' I meant this decade which, unless I've missed something, started with T3, Rocky Balboa, then DH4.

I wasn't really including sequels to films like Terminator's 1&2 or Die Hard's 1-3 as they were all made broadly speaking within a few years of each other. I think the new batch of revival sequels are those separated by their last film by at least 10 years or so.

As it goes I thought T3 was a very poor addition to the Terminator series although it did have some (not many) decent action set pieces.

Rocky Balboa? A solid workmanlike afterthought of a conclusion. Some nice moments but not a classic. I don't think it will be remembered 20 years from now in the way that Rocky, Rocky 3 and 4 are. As we all know, Rocky 4 is the best Rocky film

DH4? I thought it was okay on the theatrical viewing but it was marred by the fact that I'd paid good money to watch a cut/watered down version of the film.

Rambo 4 at least had the benefit of being 'uncut' or as uncut as we'll probably ever see it. I'm sure there would have been a cut prior to the release version that had even more graphic violence in it. Bottom line with me, people being blown up even with the benifit of CGI to make it more 'realistic' (rather than the static 'dummies' used in the 80's) doesn't really do it for me anymore. I'm not in my teens anymore. Having said that, I can still enjoy First Blood, Rambo 2 and 3 but Rambo 4, while being continuation of the character, doesn't feel part of what had gone before. In its own comic book, 2 dimensional terms the Rambo of parts 2&3 the character rings true. The John Rambo of Rambo 4 is not only inconsistant with 2&3 but also First Blood depite Stallone's efforts to tack on a last minute 'homecoming coda' to proceedings.

And Jerry Goldsmith's music is sorely missed. The spirit if the original films is gone.

Yes I'll probaly buy the 1-4 boxset when it comes out and yes, I'll watch Rambo 4 when it does. But not much and not often.

Well they are both revivals of action films from the 80's, fourth entrys aswell, so I guess people naturally compare them.

Don't get me wrong IP, I did enjoy DH4.0, and more so with the Uncut version, it was interesting watching the fan edit of it too (thanks to Cervantes).  I just think Rambo is truer to its roots if you like.

All views expressed within this post are my own.
Not meant to offend

Dunny wrote: jmcclane 88 wrote: it outshines DH4.0 IMO.

what doesn't outshine Die Hard 4, a classic example of watering down a great franchise.

DH 4 was fun and in this case watering it down to PG-13 helped it judging by the unrated cut.

And they say violent films don't encourage people.

You still here?
 Lot's of time spent on a thread about a film you don't want to discuss.
Some may call that sad.  
Not me though.
I'm too f**king POLITE.

Must I lower myself?  I Guess so.

I'm calling you an ape, because you had the bad manners and grunt attitude to label someone sad because they took the time to give an opposite view of a film.
This has nothing to do at all with your view of the film....JUST YOUR REPLY AFTERWARDS!

THAT'S the f**king insult.  What YOU wrote.  
And if you don't like an answer back big man you should keep your f**king mouth shut.

And as for  YOU ** NOT WANTING TO DISCUSS THIS FILM.** (your words).
WHY DID YOU COME ON HERE AT ALL THEN AND...DISCUSS IT!!!???

Why does your first post even exist if you have no interest in discussing the film?
Ape?  I think I just insulted apes quite frankly if that's the logic you're using.

Or is it that you did want to discuss the film as long as we all agreed with your view in the first post.  
And if not then... WHAH WHAH WHAH... you no suddenly "don't want to discuss this film" after all?

Either way...It's a pretty laughable stance for you to take.  So do that 'I don't want to discuss this film' thing then, and f**k off.  No one's stopping you.

Anyone can comment on a film they like or don't like.  But if you dislike "Rambo" for basically being 'Rambo' and then say you also disliked the other sequels with such a passion as well (especially if you disliked number 2) then I have to wonder why the hell you went anywhere near a 4th film in the series!!  Just to moan in public about how you dislike anything 'Rambo' it seems.

More money than sense some people.  If you're still going to see the 4th entry in a series you so dislike it's plain out strange.  Give the f**king money to charity if it means that little to you.

I was hoping they would use the poster thats on my signature, the bold black and white catches the eye. I loved this film, real old school action movie, it outshines DH4.0 IMO. The dream sequence in it's really good.... YOU CAN'T JUST TURN IT OFF!!!!!!!

Why are people who have no interest in it even commenting? I don't get it, this isn't Rotten Tomatoes.

I'll easily pass this DVD.

Looks like he's trying to pat himself on the back, but can't for the size of his muscles.  That or the tagline should read;

"Well, that's the shoulder broken again"  ahahaha

Sam Spade wrote:

This film is rubbish.Excuse me for having my own opinion. You make it sound like this film is as deep as a Ridley Scott or even Micheal Bay film, it ain't.Sure it tries to be but utterly fails.The climax kills anything it had going.This film is as ridiculous as all the other sequels.

You actually spent the time to defend this film(of all films).Thats really sad.


What was that?  Excuse me for having an opinion?  Hmm....

Sad?  Sad to take time to discuss a film?  Okay.  I'm sad.  Happy to be sad than an ape who grunts a couple of words of complete nonsense with all the plausibility of a street corner Chav.  Got a mirror?

I wonder why you even went to watch the film actually.  OH, I know, so you could grunt away on here.  
Now that's actually very sad, as my views cost me nothing your need to see a film just to b***h about it cost you quite a wedge of cash.

Sorry if you missed what was damn good about this film.  Your loss.  Your money.  

Sad, 'defending' a film!  Well some of us can write a bit more about films because unlike some others our hands aren't sc**ping along the ground as we wait for our thumbs to evolve.

Sad someone takes the time?  Shocking statement.  It's what we live with now though in today's world.

Wolverinfan wrote:

And I agree with others, the digital copy is dumb.

What about digital copy is dumb? For people who have PMPs that do video, it's a great way to take the flick with you if you want, without the hassle of ripping it, or downloading an "illegal screener". And it really doesn't take up much space on the disc or cost the buyer anything more at all. So now explain, again, exactly why you consider this to be dumb.

Both covers are good, but those quote are horrid! Seriously- bloodydisgusting.com??? This isn't a c-grade horror flick! They should have just used...

"Great Fun! Stallone Rocks!"
-Bob (IMDB.com user)

That said, I definately prefer the 2-disc.

"The Fight Continues"?

I actually snoozed through a bit of this in the theater. Total let down. Blood and carnage doesn't make something a good film.

And I agree with others, the digital copy is dumb.

decent artwork for both

This proves how badly this might of been, seeing JoBlo quotes on the cover art. Ekkk

I hope the Digital Copy 'ad' is just a sticker...

The 2-disc artwork looks better than the one disc. But I would prefer the black and white artwork.

I like the quote "Shockingly Entertaining!".  Mark Rahner was SHOCKED that this movie was the least bit entertaining.

Not bad artwork, the 2-disc is a little odd with him gripping his shoulder.. And what's with the lame tagline "The fight continues" ? What happened to "Heroes don't die, they reload" ?

I hope the digital copy isn't IP address locked! Meaning it will only work in North America.

Loved this movie. I was like cheering. Probably the funnest time I had at the movies in like a year. Unless it's one of those digital copy-only things, I will be shelling out the extra cash for the 2-disc.

I'd have punched the audience in the face if they'd started chanting when I was watching it.

Not the most brain-busting movie ever, but defintely a solid action flick, in my opinion. Took it self a bit too seriously at times, and could've been better if it was just some younger guy as the main character, not an older Rambo, which made pretty much any scene with him and Julie Benz somewhat disturbing due to the age difference.

In any event, if you like some good and mostly senseless violence on occasion, look no further.

This movie brings new meaning to the term senseless violence. Stevan Seagal movies are better than this and I can't stand the guy.It's like Rambo: First Blood part 2 but more over the top and corny as hell.Steroid popping Stallone needs to stop!

Bradavon wrote: I saw this last night. It's flipping fantastic. It's the best action film I've seen in years. It takes a 61 year old to show how action films "are supposed to be done!"

Forget the PG-13 Transformers and Die Hard 4 (the unrated cut would be PG-13 if submitted to, probably) this is the REAL deal!

Bring on the BD with Lossless Audio!

horrorfan25 wrote: Would Fox stop doing these dang digital copies.
It won't be the only thing on Disc 2 so why can't you just ignore it? For those with Portable Video MP3 Players (such as myself) they're a great idea.

The amount of extra space that it will take up on the 2 Disc DVD will be minimal.

pitdeadite wrote: But why did they name it "Rambo"?
I suspect because the others are so old for the under the 20 cinema going population and therefore they wouldn't know or care older films exist and because of that it could lose sales.

They should've called it Rambo 4 no contest or at least John Rambo (as it was originally known). Rambo is just too confusing.

Why was it rated R too? It's an NC-17 in everything but name. I'd never let a young kid see it. It's way too violent.

Typical MPAA politics no doubt. Stallone has enough say to make sure it gets an R. If someone else directed it who is less well known it would be NC-17 for sure.

The Unrated Die Hard 4 would so NOT get a PG-13. Go and watch it before commenting. Idiot.

horrorfan25 wrote: Would Fox stop doing these dang digital copies. We already have these digital copies: Alien vs. Predator, Juno, Hitman, and Alvin and the chipmunks (rumored of cancel) and now this? this isn't fox it's Lionsgate,and universal has done the digital copys also.

God this flick was SO much fun in the theaters. Might not be quite as much fun at home, but I'll probably jump for the Blu.

At first, the extreme brutality (most of which, was in undeniably bad taste) turned me off to the film, but soon after I really enjoyed the film for all it's throat-ripping glory. I'll get the 2-disc if the features are solid enough.

superb movie, will definatley purchase this!

Loved it!

This was actually better than Die Hard (4)

pitdeadite wrote:  This was a great movie. But why did they name it "Rambo"?

 1.) First Blood
 2.) Rambo
 3.) Rambo III
 4.) Rambo

#2 is called Rambo: First Blood Part II, not just Rambo

This was a great movie. But why did they name it "Rambo"?

 1.) First Blood
 2.) Rambo
 3.) Rambo III
 4.) Rambo

hope there's a complete box set after this one.   if the 2nd disc only contains the "digital copy", then ill pass

Enjoyed the hell out of this one. 2 disc for me.

I'm not a big fan of the Rambo films. I'll pass.