Revenge of the Sith (US - DVD R1)
We have early details on the 3rd of the latest Star Wars prequels
Title: Revenge of the Sith
Starring: Ewan McGreggor
Released: 1st November 2005
SRP: $27.95
Lucasfilm has today officially announced Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith which stars Ewan McGreggor and Hayden Christensen. The film will arrive in seperate widescreen and full screen editions from the 1st November this year, with each setting you back around $27.95. Both will carry an English Dolby Digital 5.1 EX track. Extras will include an audio commentary, a brand-new full-length documentary produced by Lucasfilm Ltd, two new featurettes on the prophecy of Anakin Skywalker, and the movie's amazing stunts, a 15-part collection of Lucasfilm's groundbreaking web documentary series, and a two-level playable demo of Star Wars Battlefront II. Completing the package will be some deleted scenes and trailers. We've attached the official package artwork below, along with a couple of screen shots from one of the new deleted scenes which chronicles the birth of the Rebel Alliance. Further details will follow.











News by Tom Woodward
Starring: Ewan McGreggor
Released: 1st November 2005
SRP: $27.95
Further Details
Lucasfilm has today officially announced Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith which stars Ewan McGreggor and Hayden Christensen. The film will arrive in seperate widescreen and full screen editions from the 1st November this year, with each setting you back around $27.95. Both will carry an English Dolby Digital 5.1 EX track. Extras will include an audio commentary, a brand-new full-length documentary produced by Lucasfilm Ltd, two new featurettes on the prophecy of Anakin Skywalker, and the movie's amazing stunts, a 15-part collection of Lucasfilm's groundbreaking web documentary series, and a two-level playable demo of Star Wars Battlefront II. Completing the package will be some deleted scenes and trailers. We've attached the official package artwork below, along with a couple of screen shots from one of the new deleted scenes which chronicles the birth of the Rebel Alliance. Further details will follow.
Revenge of the Sith: Artwork


Revenge of the Sith: Disc One Menus






Revenge of the Sith: Deleted Scene



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CAN'T WAIT. WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE NOV. 1
I can't wait to buy this movie. This is the best film ever!!!!!!!!! When is it going to be November 1st????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
As much as I enjoy Star Wars i think Lucasfilm should put this cash cow out to graze. I'd rather see a four hour Paris Hilton biopic than another Star Wars trilogy.
Episode VII,VIII,IX
Oh yeah I hope Episodes VII,VIII,IX happen and maybe the fourth trilogy X,XI,XII. I want the Star Wars saga to continue.
I had heard that Lucas had 9 stories only - and that he may allow someone else to produce the eps 7, 8 and 9 off his stories....
Quote: Originally posted by Darth Argyle
I didn't hear anything about Anakin's parentage, even by implication.
Then you need to watch the opera scene again as it is most certainly implied.
I didn't hear anything about Anakin's parentage, even by implication.
Then you need to watch the opera scene again as it is most certainly implied.
Quote: Originally posted by Ray Whitelaw
Sidious explained that his old master Darth Plagus The Wise had discovered a way of influencing the medicloreans to create life, and as Shemi Skywalker said that Anakin had no farther this kinda implies that anakin was planted by a sith lord..
This seems like quite a stretch to me. When Sidious talked about influencing midichlorians, he was telling Anakin that there was hope for saving Padme's life. I didn't hear anything about Anakin's parentage, even by implication.
Sidious explained that his old master Darth Plagus The Wise had discovered a way of influencing the medicloreans to create life, and as Shemi Skywalker said that Anakin had no farther this kinda implies that anakin was planted by a sith lord..
This seems like quite a stretch to me. When Sidious talked about influencing midichlorians, he was telling Anakin that there was hope for saving Padme's life. I didn't hear anything about Anakin's parentage, even by implication.
I'm not sure if this has been answered already, but has Episode III been announced for UMD?
Looking forward to this DVD, best film of the summer! One thing though, anyone know if there's a Prequel Boxset coming out too?? I'm hoping it'll be released for Christmas but haven't heard anything about it yet. If the Saga Boxset is rumoured to be released for the 30th Anniversary in 2007 then surely the PT Boxset will be out before then. Hopefully the PT set will have TPM updated with a cleaned up transfer and a fully digital Yoda!
Deleted scenes
The deleted scenes for the Prequels will probably not be added to the boxed set of all 6 films. That way you'll have to buy all prequel films seperately and the boxed set. If you want ALL the deleted scenes.
So those waiting for the big set all this time, will have to buy Ep. I-III seperate and the boxed set. That's George Luca$$$ for you, man he's greedy.
So those waiting for the big set all this time, will have to buy Ep. I-III seperate and the boxed set. That's George Luca$$$ for you, man he's greedy.
VII,VIII,IX and X,XI,XII
Lucas says there are 4 trilogies to Star Wars.
Prequel Trilogy
Classic Trilogy }Skywalker Family
Sequel Trilogy
Micellaneous Trilogy }Someone different
12 Star Wars movie to make a full circle like a clock.
www.starwars789.com sign the Sequel Trilogy petition make VII,VIII,IX come true.
Prequel Trilogy
Classic Trilogy }Skywalker Family
Sequel Trilogy
Micellaneous Trilogy }Someone different
12 Star Wars movie to make a full circle like a clock.
www.starwars789.com sign the Sequel Trilogy petition make VII,VIII,IX come true.
Some of the posts in this thread are wondering dangerously close to off-topic. Can we keep discussion to the DVD/Star Wars in general.
Star Wars is about?
All Six movies are about the Skywalker family that is that. Anakin should not get all the credit.
Father
Son
Holy ghost
MAY 2020 STAR WARS: EPISODE VII-THE FALLEN HERO
YAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Father
Son
Holy ghost
MAY 2020 STAR WARS: EPISODE VII-THE FALLEN HERO
YAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Woe is Rain.
Wow Rain. What a response.
In all honesty, it took me aback a bit. I didn’t know what to say. I knew that I felt right and just in what I believed, but what you were saying seemed to make so much sense. I took a about day to mull it over, reading the Bible, and my favorite book “Christian Wisdom of The Jedi Masters”. What you wrote seemed so well thought out – and long - too long in fact. Often people hide their true feelings and intentions behind a mountain of babble. So, needing guidance to peer through your layers of words, I closed my eyes and picked a random parable from the Good Book.
“Judge the tree by the fruit it bears.”
O.K. so let’s examine the fruit that you brought to the table…
You said, and I quote:
“I would, without a moment of hesitation, destroy a million worlds full of billions of people if it meant that I would be able to save my soul mate as a result.”
“What is right and what is wrong can be whittled down to what makes you feel good.”
“On my wall is a replica of Vader's red lightsaber. It symbolizes the DESTRUCTION of a gang of intellectualizing buffoons.”
“Palpatine is a bastard too. But at least he helped to bring about the Prophecy of Balance to the Force.”
“I'll be on the side of that mysterious scientist from the Roon system, busy in his lab creating a "predichlorian" virus that'll bring true balance to the force by WIPING OUT ALL THE MIDICHLORIANS OUT THERE.”
Rain. Please look at what you said! You would choose to destroy a million worlds to save one. That is pure unadulterated selfishness – The Dark Side. You believe that the difference between right and wrong is simply what makes you feel good – again, pure selfishness – The Dark Side. You choose to have on the wall of your home, a symbol of destruction – Hate leads to The Dark Side You think that the end result of what Palpatine did is ultimately just – Denial leads to The Dark Side. If you could, you would DESTROY all the midichlorians out there. You choose destruction rather that creating more for everyone – think about it…
Forget about all the logic and nitpicking technicalities of what you were saying. We could debate back and forth about things that mean nothing to the underlining intent of what we are saying – like who invented the light bulb or what Sith did what. Search your feelings Rain – I sense a lot of pain there. Did someone hurt you? Why do you choose darkness over light? Seriously, closely examine what you chose to say to me. You attacked and attacked and attacked. You chose to condemn instead of enlighten, you chose destruction over creation, you chose to put down my God rather than take the higher road. Why?
You said:
“Your god, judging by what is written about Him in his holy book, is evil.”
“…especially when asked if He could create a rock too heavy for himself to lift. Omnipotence ain't so impressive when it can be obliterated by simple logic.”
Do you really hate my God that much?
Do you not understand that he IS omnipotent? God could in fact create such a rock. Why? Because he can do anything! We just can’t fathom how with our limited minds. Perhaps he creates another dimension with another him only in that universe everything is infinitely strong +1, so he transfers the lesser rock to this other dimension and lifts it. Who knows? But it’s not important – what is important is the fruit you bring to the table. Are you trying to teach me? No, you are just lashing out at my beliefs as exampled by your petty use of the small “g” when writing the word God. You can say that you didn’t notice all you want, or that it was unintentional, but I am sure that you consciously thought about it. You ask me to be honest with myself and to just look at my day to day actions and try and prove you wrong and that I spend all my life energy on myself and those I care about, and if I have anything left over, I may be one of those rare giving individuals who help those in need. Well Rain, I am one of those rare individuals, are you? I just organized a relief benefit for the people in New Orleans, I gave a lot of my own money to help animals there. I am in the process of adopting a child from Africa who has AIDS, and I give blood regularly. I see a lot of suffering around the world and do everything I can to make this a better place. My religion taught me that.
You said, “Leia, the Force ain't with me. "May" all you want, I won't get it.”
Yes you can! Just believe in yourself! The force is in all of us, you just have to believe!
You are obviously an intelligent person, please whether you believe in my God or not look back over the tone of what you have written – can you not see how it comes across as Dark Sideish? All I am preaching is the love of my God within a Star Wars context, what are you offering Rain? Destruction? Nothingness? A story with out light triumphing over dark? These movies are parables of good vs. evil. Yes, many will say that it is grey and that it is a slope, but keep in mind that is a slippery one. You are on either one side of the slope or another. You are either slipping to the Dark side, or consciously moving towards the force.
I hope I was able to shed a little light in to your dark world.
Remember, the force is with you Rain, whether you believe it or not.
“I'm standing here in pieces and you're having delusions of grandeur.”
—C-3PO, to R2-D2 (Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back)
For it was you who formed my inward parts; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
—Psalms 139:13-14
“You're referring to the prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the Force. . . . You believe it's this boy? Bring him before us, then.”
—Mace Windu, to Qui-Gon Jinn (Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace)
For the Son of Man came to seek out and to save the lost.
—Jesus (Luke 19:10)
“Lost a planet, Master Obi-Wan has. How embarrassing.”
—Yoda (Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones)
Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son.
—Hebrews 1:1-2
In all honesty, it took me aback a bit. I didn’t know what to say. I knew that I felt right and just in what I believed, but what you were saying seemed to make so much sense. I took a about day to mull it over, reading the Bible, and my favorite book “Christian Wisdom of The Jedi Masters”. What you wrote seemed so well thought out – and long - too long in fact. Often people hide their true feelings and intentions behind a mountain of babble. So, needing guidance to peer through your layers of words, I closed my eyes and picked a random parable from the Good Book.
“Judge the tree by the fruit it bears.”
O.K. so let’s examine the fruit that you brought to the table…
You said, and I quote:
“I would, without a moment of hesitation, destroy a million worlds full of billions of people if it meant that I would be able to save my soul mate as a result.”
“What is right and what is wrong can be whittled down to what makes you feel good.”
“On my wall is a replica of Vader's red lightsaber. It symbolizes the DESTRUCTION of a gang of intellectualizing buffoons.”
“Palpatine is a bastard too. But at least he helped to bring about the Prophecy of Balance to the Force.”
“I'll be on the side of that mysterious scientist from the Roon system, busy in his lab creating a "predichlorian" virus that'll bring true balance to the force by WIPING OUT ALL THE MIDICHLORIANS OUT THERE.”
Rain. Please look at what you said! You would choose to destroy a million worlds to save one. That is pure unadulterated selfishness – The Dark Side. You believe that the difference between right and wrong is simply what makes you feel good – again, pure selfishness – The Dark Side. You choose to have on the wall of your home, a symbol of destruction – Hate leads to The Dark Side You think that the end result of what Palpatine did is ultimately just – Denial leads to The Dark Side. If you could, you would DESTROY all the midichlorians out there. You choose destruction rather that creating more for everyone – think about it…
Forget about all the logic and nitpicking technicalities of what you were saying. We could debate back and forth about things that mean nothing to the underlining intent of what we are saying – like who invented the light bulb or what Sith did what. Search your feelings Rain – I sense a lot of pain there. Did someone hurt you? Why do you choose darkness over light? Seriously, closely examine what you chose to say to me. You attacked and attacked and attacked. You chose to condemn instead of enlighten, you chose destruction over creation, you chose to put down my God rather than take the higher road. Why?
You said:
“Your god, judging by what is written about Him in his holy book, is evil.”
“…especially when asked if He could create a rock too heavy for himself to lift. Omnipotence ain't so impressive when it can be obliterated by simple logic.”
Do you really hate my God that much?
Do you not understand that he IS omnipotent? God could in fact create such a rock. Why? Because he can do anything! We just can’t fathom how with our limited minds. Perhaps he creates another dimension with another him only in that universe everything is infinitely strong +1, so he transfers the lesser rock to this other dimension and lifts it. Who knows? But it’s not important – what is important is the fruit you bring to the table. Are you trying to teach me? No, you are just lashing out at my beliefs as exampled by your petty use of the small “g” when writing the word God. You can say that you didn’t notice all you want, or that it was unintentional, but I am sure that you consciously thought about it. You ask me to be honest with myself and to just look at my day to day actions and try and prove you wrong and that I spend all my life energy on myself and those I care about, and if I have anything left over, I may be one of those rare giving individuals who help those in need. Well Rain, I am one of those rare individuals, are you? I just organized a relief benefit for the people in New Orleans, I gave a lot of my own money to help animals there. I am in the process of adopting a child from Africa who has AIDS, and I give blood regularly. I see a lot of suffering around the world and do everything I can to make this a better place. My religion taught me that.
You said, “Leia, the Force ain't with me. "May" all you want, I won't get it.”
Yes you can! Just believe in yourself! The force is in all of us, you just have to believe!
You are obviously an intelligent person, please whether you believe in my God or not look back over the tone of what you have written – can you not see how it comes across as Dark Sideish? All I am preaching is the love of my God within a Star Wars context, what are you offering Rain? Destruction? Nothingness? A story with out light triumphing over dark? These movies are parables of good vs. evil. Yes, many will say that it is grey and that it is a slope, but keep in mind that is a slippery one. You are on either one side of the slope or another. You are either slipping to the Dark side, or consciously moving towards the force.
I hope I was able to shed a little light in to your dark world.
Remember, the force is with you Rain, whether you believe it or not.
“I'm standing here in pieces and you're having delusions of grandeur.”
—C-3PO, to R2-D2 (Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back)
For it was you who formed my inward parts; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
—Psalms 139:13-14
“You're referring to the prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the Force. . . . You believe it's this boy? Bring him before us, then.”
—Mace Windu, to Qui-Gon Jinn (Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace)
For the Son of Man came to seek out and to save the lost.
—Jesus (Luke 19:10)
“Lost a planet, Master Obi-Wan has. How embarrassing.”
—Yoda (Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones)
Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son.
—Hebrews 1:1-2
All six Star Wars movies are the story of Anakin Skywalker
I have been a Star Wars fan from the beginning. I saw every one of the movies in the theatre. Yes they have had a significant impact on my life over the years. But when it comes down to it they are movies. Entertainment. If George Lucas wants to make changes to the movies he can. Star Wars is his baby. He can do whatever he wants. If you had his dough and were in his shoes you would probably want to do the same thing. The way I see it all six movies are great because they all go together to make one incredible story. Instead of complaining about them just don't watch them.
cant wait, loved this film
Quote: Originally posted by Gabriel Powers
I'm pretty sure Sidious explained it too him directly in the Opera house. Watch it again.
As Above..
Sidious explained that his old master Darth Plagus The Wise had discovered a way of influencing the medicloreans to create life, and as Shemi Skywalker said that Anakin had no farther this kinda implies that anakin was planted by a sith lord..
Not a bad father figure eh..
I'll upload the movie once I convert it..
I'm pretty sure Sidious explained it too him directly in the Opera house. Watch it again.
As Above..
Sidious explained that his old master Darth Plagus The Wise had discovered a way of influencing the medicloreans to create life, and as Shemi Skywalker said that Anakin had no farther this kinda implies that anakin was planted by a sith lord..
Not a bad father figure eh..
I'll upload the movie once I convert it..
Quote: Originally posted by Valerie Jeanne
Except that we don't actually see Anakin's birth, or how he was even conceived. Was he fathered by some wandering Jedi who "forgot" his vow of celibacy?
I'm pretty sure Sidious explained it too him directly in the Opera house. Watch it again.
Except that we don't actually see Anakin's birth, or how he was even conceived. Was he fathered by some wandering Jedi who "forgot" his vow of celibacy?
I'm pretty sure Sidious explained it too him directly in the Opera house. Watch it again.
Quote: Originally posted by Ray Whitelaw
In the mans own words.." Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker. It starts when he's born and ends when he's dead."
:p
Except that we don't actually see Anakin's birth, or how he was even conceived. Was he fathered by some wandering Jedi who "forgot" his vow of celibacy?
In the mans own words.." Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker. It starts when he's born and ends when he's dead."
:p
Except that we don't actually see Anakin's birth, or how he was even conceived. Was he fathered by some wandering Jedi who "forgot" his vow of celibacy?
Quote: Originally posted by Cory Morr
Star Wars is about the Skywalker and Solo family. You people got alot of balls thinking Star Wars is about Anakin and leave his son Luke in the woodwork its not get over it. VII,VIII,IX are needed because there are new enemies that plunder the galaxy. The Dark Jedi my friends the Dark Jedi.
I,II,III-Obi-Wan,Anakin,Padme'
IV,V,VI-Han,Luke,Leia(continued in 7,8,9)
VII,VIII,IX-Mara Jade, Anakin Solo, Ben Skywalker, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, Kyle Katarn
X,XI,XII-?????
There you go.
Sorry dude but this just ain't true..
I was at the Star Wars Saga day in London.. where I was lucky enought to meet lucas..
In the mans own words.." Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker. It starts when he's born and ends when he's dead."
If you want I could upload a movie of him saying this...
:p
Star Wars is about the Skywalker and Solo family. You people got alot of balls thinking Star Wars is about Anakin and leave his son Luke in the woodwork its not get over it. VII,VIII,IX are needed because there are new enemies that plunder the galaxy. The Dark Jedi my friends the Dark Jedi.
I,II,III-Obi-Wan,Anakin,Padme'
IV,V,VI-Han,Luke,Leia(continued in 7,8,9)
VII,VIII,IX-Mara Jade, Anakin Solo, Ben Skywalker, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, Kyle Katarn
X,XI,XII-?????
There you go.
Sorry dude but this just ain't true..
I was at the Star Wars Saga day in London.. where I was lucky enought to meet lucas..
In the mans own words.." Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker. It starts when he's born and ends when he's dead."
If you want I could upload a movie of him saying this...
:p
Trust your gut instinct - feel, don't think (good thing Edison didn't think that, or we'd corresponding by mail and reading it by candlelight).
How did Edison change that? The candle I can see as an easy misconception. Edison did not invent the light bulb, he just found a better filament for it, although it is argued that other people had found better ones before he. However, in claiming that Edison is the reason that we have such widespread electricity use, at least in the US, you are showing that you are ignorant of what Edison really did. Edison wanted his inferior DC electricity system to be in place, so much that he did everything possible to discredit Tesla's far superior AC electricity system. With Edison's system in place, a power plant would be required every few city blocks in order to have the widespread electricity use that we have in the US today. Unfortunately, it would not be widespread, because the price would be prohibitive to anyone other than the upper classes. Because of Tesla and Westinghouse, and in spite of Edison, we are not limited to parcel post and candles.
How did Edison change that? The candle I can see as an easy misconception. Edison did not invent the light bulb, he just found a better filament for it, although it is argued that other people had found better ones before he. However, in claiming that Edison is the reason that we have such widespread electricity use, at least in the US, you are showing that you are ignorant of what Edison really did. Edison wanted his inferior DC electricity system to be in place, so much that he did everything possible to discredit Tesla's far superior AC electricity system. With Edison's system in place, a power plant would be required every few city blocks in order to have the widespread electricity use that we have in the US today. Unfortunately, it would not be widespread, because the price would be prohibitive to anyone other than the upper classes. Because of Tesla and Westinghouse, and in spite of Edison, we are not limited to parcel post and candles.
In the Episode II commentary, they made a comment about Yoda being old and weaker than in his younger days, and had to kinda "get it up" rofl, just to fight Dooku. So I think even by their standards, Yoda was (in the words of Danny Glovers 'Murtagh' character from Lethal Weapon) "Gettin too old for this s**t." lol.
I wonder how much the 2007 boxset is gonna run? For better or worse, despite whatever changes it will have, I think that is the set I would like to purchase in the end. At the very least, Im hoping its the one that finally gets rid of the boxes around the ships in the original Trilogy.
I wonder how much the 2007 boxset is gonna run? For better or worse, despite whatever changes it will have, I think that is the set I would like to purchase in the end. At the very least, Im hoping its the one that finally gets rid of the boxes around the ships in the original Trilogy.
Episode III OWNED and Rain needs a life...
Who here agrees?
About Yoda losing to the Emperor, you've got it slightly wrong Thomas. It wasn't that Yoda simply didn't know how to fight against a Sith, but instead Yoda was just plain dumb and arrogant, and the Emperor was far more powerful than he ever realized. It had nothing to do with the Jedi following an old order, or the Sith being hidden. A Sith is a Sith and a Jedi is a Jedi, nothing more nothing less. The Sith didn't drop their old ways or gain any new ones, all they did was murder each other after each passed on his knowledge until only one remained and that person stayed hidden for he knew what would happen if anyone found it. One reason this is true is the fact at the end of the fight Yoda knows he failed, not because he couldn't fight Sideous, but simply because he was no match power-to-power against the Sith Lord; Sideous was faster, stronger and had a huge clone army that just wiped out all but 2 Jedi Masters. We also hear Yoda tell Luke in the Original Trilogy not to underestimate the power of the Emperor and that simply is because of his power, not because the didn't know how to fight him. Mace Windu held up his own against a Sith, even though you can argue once Anakin arrived Palpatine was just toying with Mace to get Anakin to turn, but it was still Mace who had the upper "hand" the entire fight. (haha, "hand", get it?).
I see what you mean, but again, Yoda lost due to his own arrogance, nothing else. Good theory though Thomas.
About Yoda losing to the Emperor, you've got it slightly wrong Thomas. It wasn't that Yoda simply didn't know how to fight against a Sith, but instead Yoda was just plain dumb and arrogant, and the Emperor was far more powerful than he ever realized. It had nothing to do with the Jedi following an old order, or the Sith being hidden. A Sith is a Sith and a Jedi is a Jedi, nothing more nothing less. The Sith didn't drop their old ways or gain any new ones, all they did was murder each other after each passed on his knowledge until only one remained and that person stayed hidden for he knew what would happen if anyone found it. One reason this is true is the fact at the end of the fight Yoda knows he failed, not because he couldn't fight Sideous, but simply because he was no match power-to-power against the Sith Lord; Sideous was faster, stronger and had a huge clone army that just wiped out all but 2 Jedi Masters. We also hear Yoda tell Luke in the Original Trilogy not to underestimate the power of the Emperor and that simply is because of his power, not because the didn't know how to fight him. Mace Windu held up his own against a Sith, even though you can argue once Anakin arrived Palpatine was just toying with Mace to get Anakin to turn, but it was still Mace who had the upper "hand" the entire fight. (haha, "hand", get it?).
I see what you mean, but again, Yoda lost due to his own arrogance, nothing else. Good theory though Thomas.
I disagree. The reason the Sith were succesful in Episode III was because they were in hiding for the past 1000 years, adapting, learning and gaining power. The Jedi didn't. They stuck to the old ways of the Order, which meant they were trained to fight the Sith of old. I'm talking about the Sith Empire that existed 4000-6000 years prior to Episode 1. The Jedi portrayed in these new movies were trained to fight a war like the one that was fought thousands of years ago. That's why Yoda wasn't able to defeat Sidious. He wasn't trained to fight an enemy like Sidious. A Sith that can manage to stay hidden like that for that long under the Jedi's noses would have to be extremely powerful. And Sidious was.
Leia, thank you for your post. Please read this response with the caveat that I am an open minded individual who does not follow any one particular religion, but one who treats them all as being equaly valid (or invalid). Moreover, this post is meant as a discourse on morality, huge problems with Lucas' writng (in)ability and general emotional reaction to the sum of what Star Wars is to me. I may be wrong in my views, and I welcome logical, intelligent criticism. For if I am proven wrong, then I grow as a result. It's win-win. That being said, here's my response. Enjoy.
At my last Midichlorian checkup, I registered at 0 midichlorians in my bloodstream. Whether you wish it or not, Leia, the Force ain't with me. "May" all you want, I won't get it, unless I become some sort of Force Vampire.
However, Jedi Caste differences aside, I think your post deserves particular attention.
Was I serious? You bet. Am I suggesting that the Dark side is good and the light side bad? Not at all. Only Sith see things in the absolutes, as Obi-wan said. I am saying that it is more like positive and negative. Night and day. Niether are evil or good. They are just opposites. The people who use those powers, however, are a different story.
I would rather focus on the characters that Mr. Lucas created, who, despite their fan following, do some horrible things to the people they say they care about (and I am talking about the heroes here).
A good guy does not watch his best friend burn alive. End of story. Burning alive is perhaps the most tortuous way to go, becaue you are quite conscious as your fat boils beneath your skin.
Would your favourite hero watch Judas burn alive? No way. He'd pull him out of the flames and have him answer for his crimes. Obi Wan's action in this film utterly repulsed me, moreso than Anakin's slaying of the younglings. Why? As messed up as Anakin was, he went down the dark path to learn how to stop people from dying, in order to help his soul mate. Maybe you and I differ here, but I would, without a moment of hesitation, destroy a million worlds full of billions of people if it meant that I would be able to save my soul mate as a result. It would not be an emotionally easy decision to make, but certainly a logical one. I can understand if this is a difficult concept for foilks to grasp because of the popular righteous concept of the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few, but if you are honest with yourself, just look at your day to day actions and try and prove me wrong - you spend all your life energy on yourself and those you care about, and if you have anything left over, you may be one of those rare giving individuals who help those in need. It's the same thing, albiet extremist, of my million worlds example.But you do it little by little each day.
Does it make me a Satanist? Well, no. You see, there are more gods in the human pantheon than your god Yahweh and His adversary. Your god, judging by what is written about Him in his holy book, is evil. You see, he's omnipotent. He's so powerful that He has the ablity to create a universe for every soul to live out eternity in perfect happiness. He chooses not to, and instead sends those He calls evil (like Buddhists - see the 1st commandment) into a permanent, torturous prison called Hell. That's not polite. It's not even nice. As messed up as the Buddhist religion is, at least the Buddha would voluntarily go to hell to bring relief to the endless suffering (even after spending a lifetime doing more good than the average full-bellied Christian and still being condemned due to that first commandment).
As for the Jedis making a FEW mistakes. My gods, person, did you WATCH the movies? The Jedis, from Mace Windu up to Luke Skywalker are swaggering buffoons. What moron would use tactics like theirs to rescue anybody? Well, maybe the Marx brothers.
To wit; Obi Wan and Qui Gon run into the first Sith Lord anyone has seen in a thousand years. The biggest threat ever to face the Jedi, by the way. Does the wise Jedi council send all the jedi in to wipe them out? Nope. They send two. One is an illogical reckless idealist whose unjustified reliance on gut instinct was so poor it got the crew of his Republic cruiser killed, enabled the Trade Federation to invade Naboo (Oh a Blastdoor is down, and there are driods with big guns. Let's leave the ship instead of blowing it up, or finding another way into the bridge).
In the second film, the Jedi readily accept a Clone army ordered by a dead jedi and nobody questions a thing about it. They then land in a stadium full of armed bad robots that can send even the most hardened Jedi squealing away in fear (see the above example). They have a whole army of walkers and cannons and gods know what else, and they leave all that behind to be macho.
Count Duku wasn't to blame for their deaths any more than motorists should be blamed for drunk people jumping out infront of high speed traffic.
Luke, to fast forward a bit in order to enunciate how stupid the present generation of Jedi are, sets out to rescue Han from the clutches of Jabba, but not before sending all his friends in first, to get tortured, chained up and licked. Then, he goes in, alone, and falls down a trap door. And then risks getting himself and his friends tossed into a enormous sphincter with teeth. All that pain and suffering could have been avoided if he had just went in before everyone else, mind-tricked and choked a few folks here and there before leaving with the Hansicle. Darkside powers? Bah. If evil means getting things done, without hurting your friends than we read different dictionaries. Remember it was Leia who killed Jabba and blew up the Sailbarge, not Luke. And don't get me started about the whole sexist thing.
You are right about no-one being perfect. I would say your god isn't either, but He doesn't like criticsim, especially when asked if He could create a rock too heavy form himself to lift. Omnipotence ain't so impressive when it can be obliterated by simple logic.
New Orleans was brought up to illustrate a point. Democracy failed to help those poor folks, especially when the majority of them didn't vote for the fella who snuck into office the first four years of his regime. Revenge of the Sith glorified democracy despite the fact that the film also showed its enormous weakness: corruption.
But you are wrong about heroes. There are a lot more of them around in the real world than you give credit for. Go down to a soup kitchen, go to an animal shelter, or better yet, become a hero yourself and help someone out. It'll make you and those you help feel better.
What is right and what is wrong can be wittled down to what makes you feel good without hurting someone else. I watched an entire saga of pain and suffering that could all have been avoided if everyone was honest with each other, and effectively communicating what they were thinking and feeling. Granted, a drama needs conflict in order to be considered drama. However, GOOD drama teaches proactive positive morals, which these films do not. Ugly is evil. Technology is evil. Trust your gut instinct - feel, don't think (good thing Edison didn't think that, or we'd corresponding by mail and reading it by candlelight).
Yoda used to be a morally upright hero for me, untill I began looking at the trilogy as a unified picture. Yoda knew about life after death. He sat there, calm as a willow in the breeze while a visibly troubled Anakin tried his best to communicate his fears of the death of someone close to him. Yoda, who knew about Qui Gon's longetivity in the middle of Episode II, didn't tell Anakin about this. Instead, he says, basically, "Don't worry your pretty little head. To all things there is an end."
On my wall is a replica of Vader's red lightsabre. It symbolizes the destruction of a gang of intellectualizing buffoons. Not that the Sith don't have their problems. Palpatine is a bastid too. But at least he helped to bring about the Prophecy of Balance to the Force. If the Jedi had their way, it would have been an elitist, midichlorians-only club... an Empire of a different sort. Incompetent, impotent and self-serving.
The horror of all this, is at the end of Return of the Jedi, there's only Luke and Leia. Unelss Leia goes to the darkside (I hope, I hope!), we are left with only positve Jedi ruling things. That ain't no balance. If anything, Luke disrupted the balance put into place by Palpatine and Vader. Yikes.
So, you want to side yourself with careless, gut-instinct oriented self-righteous dogmatic zombies, go right ahead.
In the meantime I'll be on the side of that mysterious scientist from the Roon ssystem, busy in his lab creating a "predichlorian" virus that'll bring true balance to the force by wiping out all the midichlorians out there.
May the Force be with you, Leia...
At my last Midichlorian checkup, I registered at 0 midichlorians in my bloodstream. Whether you wish it or not, Leia, the Force ain't with me. "May" all you want, I won't get it, unless I become some sort of Force Vampire.

However, Jedi Caste differences aside, I think your post deserves particular attention.
Was I serious? You bet. Am I suggesting that the Dark side is good and the light side bad? Not at all. Only Sith see things in the absolutes, as Obi-wan said. I am saying that it is more like positive and negative. Night and day. Niether are evil or good. They are just opposites. The people who use those powers, however, are a different story.
I would rather focus on the characters that Mr. Lucas created, who, despite their fan following, do some horrible things to the people they say they care about (and I am talking about the heroes here).
A good guy does not watch his best friend burn alive. End of story. Burning alive is perhaps the most tortuous way to go, becaue you are quite conscious as your fat boils beneath your skin.
Would your favourite hero watch Judas burn alive? No way. He'd pull him out of the flames and have him answer for his crimes. Obi Wan's action in this film utterly repulsed me, moreso than Anakin's slaying of the younglings. Why? As messed up as Anakin was, he went down the dark path to learn how to stop people from dying, in order to help his soul mate. Maybe you and I differ here, but I would, without a moment of hesitation, destroy a million worlds full of billions of people if it meant that I would be able to save my soul mate as a result. It would not be an emotionally easy decision to make, but certainly a logical one. I can understand if this is a difficult concept for foilks to grasp because of the popular righteous concept of the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few, but if you are honest with yourself, just look at your day to day actions and try and prove me wrong - you spend all your life energy on yourself and those you care about, and if you have anything left over, you may be one of those rare giving individuals who help those in need. It's the same thing, albiet extremist, of my million worlds example.But you do it little by little each day.
Does it make me a Satanist? Well, no. You see, there are more gods in the human pantheon than your god Yahweh and His adversary. Your god, judging by what is written about Him in his holy book, is evil. You see, he's omnipotent. He's so powerful that He has the ablity to create a universe for every soul to live out eternity in perfect happiness. He chooses not to, and instead sends those He calls evil (like Buddhists - see the 1st commandment) into a permanent, torturous prison called Hell. That's not polite. It's not even nice. As messed up as the Buddhist religion is, at least the Buddha would voluntarily go to hell to bring relief to the endless suffering (even after spending a lifetime doing more good than the average full-bellied Christian and still being condemned due to that first commandment).
As for the Jedis making a FEW mistakes. My gods, person, did you WATCH the movies? The Jedis, from Mace Windu up to Luke Skywalker are swaggering buffoons. What moron would use tactics like theirs to rescue anybody? Well, maybe the Marx brothers.
To wit; Obi Wan and Qui Gon run into the first Sith Lord anyone has seen in a thousand years. The biggest threat ever to face the Jedi, by the way. Does the wise Jedi council send all the jedi in to wipe them out? Nope. They send two. One is an illogical reckless idealist whose unjustified reliance on gut instinct was so poor it got the crew of his Republic cruiser killed, enabled the Trade Federation to invade Naboo (Oh a Blastdoor is down, and there are driods with big guns. Let's leave the ship instead of blowing it up, or finding another way into the bridge).
In the second film, the Jedi readily accept a Clone army ordered by a dead jedi and nobody questions a thing about it. They then land in a stadium full of armed bad robots that can send even the most hardened Jedi squealing away in fear (see the above example). They have a whole army of walkers and cannons and gods know what else, and they leave all that behind to be macho.
Count Duku wasn't to blame for their deaths any more than motorists should be blamed for drunk people jumping out infront of high speed traffic.
Luke, to fast forward a bit in order to enunciate how stupid the present generation of Jedi are, sets out to rescue Han from the clutches of Jabba, but not before sending all his friends in first, to get tortured, chained up and licked. Then, he goes in, alone, and falls down a trap door. And then risks getting himself and his friends tossed into a enormous sphincter with teeth. All that pain and suffering could have been avoided if he had just went in before everyone else, mind-tricked and choked a few folks here and there before leaving with the Hansicle. Darkside powers? Bah. If evil means getting things done, without hurting your friends than we read different dictionaries. Remember it was Leia who killed Jabba and blew up the Sailbarge, not Luke. And don't get me started about the whole sexist thing.
You are right about no-one being perfect. I would say your god isn't either, but He doesn't like criticsim, especially when asked if He could create a rock too heavy form himself to lift. Omnipotence ain't so impressive when it can be obliterated by simple logic.
New Orleans was brought up to illustrate a point. Democracy failed to help those poor folks, especially when the majority of them didn't vote for the fella who snuck into office the first four years of his regime. Revenge of the Sith glorified democracy despite the fact that the film also showed its enormous weakness: corruption.
But you are wrong about heroes. There are a lot more of them around in the real world than you give credit for. Go down to a soup kitchen, go to an animal shelter, or better yet, become a hero yourself and help someone out. It'll make you and those you help feel better.
What is right and what is wrong can be wittled down to what makes you feel good without hurting someone else. I watched an entire saga of pain and suffering that could all have been avoided if everyone was honest with each other, and effectively communicating what they were thinking and feeling. Granted, a drama needs conflict in order to be considered drama. However, GOOD drama teaches proactive positive morals, which these films do not. Ugly is evil. Technology is evil. Trust your gut instinct - feel, don't think (good thing Edison didn't think that, or we'd corresponding by mail and reading it by candlelight).
Yoda used to be a morally upright hero for me, untill I began looking at the trilogy as a unified picture. Yoda knew about life after death. He sat there, calm as a willow in the breeze while a visibly troubled Anakin tried his best to communicate his fears of the death of someone close to him. Yoda, who knew about Qui Gon's longetivity in the middle of Episode II, didn't tell Anakin about this. Instead, he says, basically, "Don't worry your pretty little head. To all things there is an end."
On my wall is a replica of Vader's red lightsabre. It symbolizes the destruction of a gang of intellectualizing buffoons. Not that the Sith don't have their problems. Palpatine is a bastid too. But at least he helped to bring about the Prophecy of Balance to the Force. If the Jedi had their way, it would have been an elitist, midichlorians-only club... an Empire of a different sort. Incompetent, impotent and self-serving.
The horror of all this, is at the end of Return of the Jedi, there's only Luke and Leia. Unelss Leia goes to the darkside (I hope, I hope!), we are left with only positve Jedi ruling things. That ain't no balance. If anything, Luke disrupted the balance put into place by Palpatine and Vader. Yikes.
So, you want to side yourself with careless, gut-instinct oriented self-righteous dogmatic zombies, go right ahead.
In the meantime I'll be on the side of that mysterious scientist from the Roon ssystem, busy in his lab creating a "predichlorian" virus that'll bring true balance to the force by wiping out all the midichlorians out there.
May the Force be with you, Leia...
On Jedi extremism and dogma
"The Jedi Order failed because they were so ingrained with their dogmatic BS that they could not adapt or change with the times. They were too fanatical to survive in their present form. Extremism and lack of one's own free will is the evil there."
I disagree with Mr. Baldwin
The Jedi failed because of all the lies and obfuscation that the Sith were spewing. Dogma had little to do with it. The problem that the Jedis have is a common one for good guys... It's that they are just too darned nice for their own good!
Because evil cheats, unfortunately it has a tendency to win (at least in the short run). Good guys are often played for suckers and often it is they that take the first punch. The Jedi were hardly fanatical, nor extreme, and perhaps that was their problem. Again, good tends to be more passive and subtle, so tactics like lies and manipulation are able to maneuver the course of the righteous.
People who often like to cry about dogma in Jedi affairs (or religion for that matter) are often those who don't like to follow the rules or that they like to cherry-pick them. Well, the rules are there for a reason and sometimes we just have to have faith in the FORCES that be that they have our best intentions at heart.
"Let go Luke, Let Go!"
Sometimes you just have to have faith in the force.
Does any one else agree with me on this?
A lone Jedi, jasper-green lightsaber in hand, fighting the forces of the dark side awaiting backup...
I disagree with Mr. Baldwin
The Jedi failed because of all the lies and obfuscation that the Sith were spewing. Dogma had little to do with it. The problem that the Jedis have is a common one for good guys... It's that they are just too darned nice for their own good!
Because evil cheats, unfortunately it has a tendency to win (at least in the short run). Good guys are often played for suckers and often it is they that take the first punch. The Jedi were hardly fanatical, nor extreme, and perhaps that was their problem. Again, good tends to be more passive and subtle, so tactics like lies and manipulation are able to maneuver the course of the righteous.
People who often like to cry about dogma in Jedi affairs (or religion for that matter) are often those who don't like to follow the rules or that they like to cherry-pick them. Well, the rules are there for a reason and sometimes we just have to have faith in the FORCES that be that they have our best intentions at heart.
"Let go Luke, Let Go!"
Sometimes you just have to have faith in the force.
Does any one else agree with me on this?
A lone Jedi, jasper-green lightsaber in hand, fighting the forces of the dark side awaiting backup...
In addition to the importance of compassion, loyalty, friendship, and family............I think the main point that Lucas is trying to point out is that extremities in both religious and political beliefs are what you should watch out for. Both the Jedi (Obi-Wan, Yoda, Windu, etc.) and the Sith (Anakin, Emperor, etc.) were wrong. I think they realized this once it was too late and that is why Luke is taught only the basics. Even then, he chooses to follow his own path and questions the beliefs and logic of his teachers........something that neither Obi-Wan nor Anakin never really did. While Anakin may have questioned the Jedi's judgment, he followed the Sith's blindly and that was his downfall. The Jedi Order failed because they were so ingrained with their dogmatic BS that they could not adapt or change with the times. They were too fanatical to survive in their present form. Extremism and lack of one's own free will is the evil there.
A response to Rain
Terrible? Horrid? A cautionary tale about values? Are you serious? Star Wars is basically about good vs. evil, dark vs. light, are you actually suggesting that the dark side is good and the force is bad? Sure, if you are a Satanist! Granted Obi-Wan and the Jedis made a few mistakes, but no one is perfect (except God) and the fact that you bring New Orleans into this as an example, now THAT's what I call messed up values. Well, at least you acknowledge the genius of ILM.
In a time where superheros and role models are becoming increasingly scarce, where saying a morning prayer is politcally incorrect, and where people are thinking less and less about what is right and wrong, at least we have something like Star Wars that the masses of people who follow various questionable beliefs and ideas can get some proper values and guidance from.
Dark side bad, the force good.
May the force be with you Rain.
In a time where superheros and role models are becoming increasingly scarce, where saying a morning prayer is politcally incorrect, and where people are thinking less and less about what is right and wrong, at least we have something like Star Wars that the masses of people who follow various questionable beliefs and ideas can get some proper values and guidance from.
Dark side bad, the force good.
May the force be with you Rain.
Terrible. Horrid. The values Lucas teaches in this film? Choose a society filled with mostly strangers over your soulmate. Turn your back on your best friend, but not until you watch him BURN ALIVE.
Take your best friend's lightsabre, and then lie to that friend's son twenty years later about how he wanted you to have it.
A person is evil because they think democracy doesn't work (that would make the population of New Orleans evil).
A person is good because they know about life after death, have conversed with dead people but refuses, at a key point, to tell the most powerful and most troubled Jedi in history for reasons that aren't entirely clear.
Will I buy this DVD? Absolutely. As a cautionary tale about what people should not be like, because of John Willams and the genius of ILM.
Take your best friend's lightsabre, and then lie to that friend's son twenty years later about how he wanted you to have it.
A person is evil because they think democracy doesn't work (that would make the population of New Orleans evil).
A person is good because they know about life after death, have conversed with dead people but refuses, at a key point, to tell the most powerful and most troubled Jedi in history for reasons that aren't entirely clear.
Will I buy this DVD? Absolutely. As a cautionary tale about what people should not be like, because of John Willams and the genius of ILM.
Quote: Originally posted by Tom Woodward
I've now added the 'approved' menu shots. You lose a few I'm afraid, but at least you get a first look at the alternative main menu schemes too!
Does that mean you actually have the disc Tom?
Although, I understand why they asked you to take down some of the chapter menu's. It gave a way a lot of plot points.
I've now added the 'approved' menu shots. You lose a few I'm afraid, but at least you get a first look at the alternative main menu schemes too!
Does that mean you actually have the disc Tom?
Although, I understand why they asked you to take down some of the chapter menu's. It gave a way a lot of plot points.
Quote: Originally posted by Cory Morr
Star Wars is about the Skywalker and Solo family. You people got alot of balls thinking Star Wars is about Anakin and leave his son Luke in the woodwork its not get over it. VII,VIII,IX are needed because there are new enemies that plunder the galaxy. The Dark Jedi my friends the Dark Jedi.
I,II,III-Obi-Wan,Anakin,Padme'
IV,V,VI-Han,Luke,Leia(continued in 7,8,9)
VII,VIII,IX-Mara Jade, Anakin Solo, Ben Skywalker, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, Kyle Katarn
X,XI,XII-?????
There you go.
But why not stop at 9 films? Wouldn't there theoretically be evil even after the ninth installment?
I think they stopped just fine at the six films. What else are they going to do? Re-tell the same stories they've already told in the six films all over again?
Star Wars is about the Skywalker and Solo family. You people got alot of balls thinking Star Wars is about Anakin and leave his son Luke in the woodwork its not get over it. VII,VIII,IX are needed because there are new enemies that plunder the galaxy. The Dark Jedi my friends the Dark Jedi.
I,II,III-Obi-Wan,Anakin,Padme'
IV,V,VI-Han,Luke,Leia(continued in 7,8,9)
VII,VIII,IX-Mara Jade, Anakin Solo, Ben Skywalker, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, Kyle Katarn
X,XI,XII-?????
There you go.
But why not stop at 9 films? Wouldn't there theoretically be evil even after the ninth installment?
I think they stopped just fine at the six films. What else are they going to do? Re-tell the same stories they've already told in the six films all over again?
thanks Tom for these awesome images! anyway you could tell us what the deleted scenes are going to be? thanx!
I do like the three alternate main menu screens... gives three different moods to the film.
The term 'full screen' is also misleading. it wouldn't, for example, fill the screen of a widescreen TV set. It should be called narrorw screen

Full Screen?
Why on earth would anyone want full screen? I just don't get the folks that prefer pan and scan - particularly on a movie like this.
Sith Rocks
This movie is my favorite so far this year and probably overall. I love the menu shots. There is no question as to whether I will buy this or not. And on a side note, I like the prequel trilogy better than the original trilogy, but that is just my opinion. Every one else who prefers the original trilogy has the right to do so.
I've now added the 'approved' menu shots. You lose a few I'm afraid, but at least you get a first look at the alternative main menu schemes too!
Stars Wars VII-IX
Lucas' original plan for the entire saga was as follows
Episodes I-III = The Rise & Fall of Anakin (as they are now)
Episode IV = Luke joins the rebellion & Death Star destruction (as it is now)
Episode V = Luke's training, Confronting Vader, Han is frozen (as it is now)
Now here's where stuff changes. Here's the original plan for the rest...
Episode VI = The search for Han, battling Jabba and his minions.
Episode VII = The final confrontation and death of Darth Vader. No redemption involved.
Episode VIII = Luke's sister appears. Leia was not originally intended to be Luke's sister.
Episode IX = Confrontation and destruction of the Emperor, and the fall of the Empire.
Those were the original vague outlines set out by George Lucas, Gary Kurtz, and Lawrence Kasdan. What happened was Lucas was in a really bad spot in his life and decided that he didn't want to spend another two decades finshing the saga. This is why Kurtz ultimately quit before Jedi was made because he disagreed with cramming all the main elements from Episodes 7-9 into Return of the Jedi. So saving Han became the opening sequence, Leia became Luke's long lost sister, and Vader himself destroys the Emperor. Then Lucas took a break for about 15 years and then finally decided that he actually wanted to make the prequels. He has no story set in place for a sequel trilogy and there hasn't been one since the plots were merged back around the time of TESB. Were he to write one out, I can guarantee it would have nothing to do with the books that already exist. That is why he allowed them to be written. He knew he would never make that trilogy.
What we have now are the eventual TV series. All we can hope for is that Lucas takes Hamill up on his offer to reprise Luke Skywalker in a sequel TV series. I've always imagined it as a futuristic Kung Fu, with Luke wandering the galaxy dispensing justice.......probably with R2-D2 and C-3PO in tow. You're not going to get Ford or Fisher back to this series folks, it's not going to happen.
Everyone just needs to face the fact that there will never be a sequel trilogy. Get over it!!!
Episodes I-III = The Rise & Fall of Anakin (as they are now)
Episode IV = Luke joins the rebellion & Death Star destruction (as it is now)
Episode V = Luke's training, Confronting Vader, Han is frozen (as it is now)
Now here's where stuff changes. Here's the original plan for the rest...
Episode VI = The search for Han, battling Jabba and his minions.
Episode VII = The final confrontation and death of Darth Vader. No redemption involved.
Episode VIII = Luke's sister appears. Leia was not originally intended to be Luke's sister.
Episode IX = Confrontation and destruction of the Emperor, and the fall of the Empire.
Those were the original vague outlines set out by George Lucas, Gary Kurtz, and Lawrence Kasdan. What happened was Lucas was in a really bad spot in his life and decided that he didn't want to spend another two decades finshing the saga. This is why Kurtz ultimately quit before Jedi was made because he disagreed with cramming all the main elements from Episodes 7-9 into Return of the Jedi. So saving Han became the opening sequence, Leia became Luke's long lost sister, and Vader himself destroys the Emperor. Then Lucas took a break for about 15 years and then finally decided that he actually wanted to make the prequels. He has no story set in place for a sequel trilogy and there hasn't been one since the plots were merged back around the time of TESB. Were he to write one out, I can guarantee it would have nothing to do with the books that already exist. That is why he allowed them to be written. He knew he would never make that trilogy.
What we have now are the eventual TV series. All we can hope for is that Lucas takes Hamill up on his offer to reprise Luke Skywalker in a sequel TV series. I've always imagined it as a futuristic Kung Fu, with Luke wandering the galaxy dispensing justice.......probably with R2-D2 and C-3PO in tow. You're not going to get Ford or Fisher back to this series folks, it's not going to happen.
Everyone just needs to face the fact that there will never be a sequel trilogy. Get over it!!!
Quote: Originally posted by Cory Morr
Star Wars is about the Skywalker and Solo family. You people got alot of balls thinking Star Wars is about Anakin and leave his son Luke in the woodwork its not get over it. VII,VIII,IX are needed because there are new enemies that plunder the galaxy. The Dark Jedi my friends the Dark Jedi.
I,II,III-Obi-Wan,Anakin,Padme'
IV,V,VI-Han,Luke,Leia(continued in 7,8,9)
VII,VIII,IX-Mara Jade, Anakin Solo, Ben Skywalker, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, Kyle Katarn
X,XI,XII-?????
There you go.
Someone's been reading too many books.
Star Wars is about the Skywalker and Solo family. You people got alot of balls thinking Star Wars is about Anakin and leave his son Luke in the woodwork its not get over it. VII,VIII,IX are needed because there are new enemies that plunder the galaxy. The Dark Jedi my friends the Dark Jedi.
I,II,III-Obi-Wan,Anakin,Padme'
IV,V,VI-Han,Luke,Leia(continued in 7,8,9)
VII,VIII,IX-Mara Jade, Anakin Solo, Ben Skywalker, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, Kyle Katarn
X,XI,XII-?????
There you go.
Someone's been reading too many books.
Lucas himself has stated it's about Anakin, but he did it more eloquently than you.
Star Wars is not about Anakin!
Star Wars is about the Skywalker and Solo family. You people got alot of balls thinking Star Wars is about Anakin and leave his son Luke in the woodwork its not get over it. VII,VIII,IX are needed because there are new enemies that plunder the galaxy. The Dark Jedi my friends the Dark Jedi.
I,II,III-Obi-Wan,Anakin,Padme'
IV,V,VI-Han,Luke,Leia(continued in 7,8,9)
VII,VIII,IX-Mara Jade, Anakin Solo, Ben Skywalker, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, Kyle Katarn
X,XI,XII-?????
There you go.
I,II,III-Obi-Wan,Anakin,Padme'
IV,V,VI-Han,Luke,Leia(continued in 7,8,9)
VII,VIII,IX-Mara Jade, Anakin Solo, Ben Skywalker, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, Kyle Katarn
X,XI,XII-?????
There you go.
What we need.
I think we need the Star Wars: Sequel Trilgy more then life itself. If GL changes his mind and makes just 1 more trilogy I will shut up and be happy forever know that STAR WARS: EPISODE VII,VIII,IX are a reality. GL will make 7,8,9, because its going to haunt him for years to come and regret it.
Quote: Originally posted by Kem Kadef
You people need to get over your "OMGZORES YOUR ALL MORONS" obsession. People have different opinions, some like the Prequels better some like the Orginal better some love it all, some hate it all.
You people really need to be more tolerant of one another. Enjoy it or hate it, theres absolutely NO reason to talk crap about other peoples opinions that concern a movie...
I personally loved it, I have my gripes about the series but its a great story and I will always enjoy it for what it is, not what it could be.
Amen to that, If only you went on every SW board and said that, It might be more enjoyable to talk SW instead of all these arguments and sillyness.and yes I do like the prequels.........
You people need to get over your "OMGZORES YOUR ALL MORONS" obsession. People have different opinions, some like the Prequels better some like the Orginal better some love it all, some hate it all.
You people really need to be more tolerant of one another. Enjoy it or hate it, theres absolutely NO reason to talk crap about other peoples opinions that concern a movie...
I personally loved it, I have my gripes about the series but its a great story and I will always enjoy it for what it is, not what it could be.
Amen to that, If only you went on every SW board and said that, It might be more enjoyable to talk SW instead of all these arguments and sillyness.and yes I do like the prequels.........
I'm afraid Lucasfilm has requested that we remove the menus for now. I'm hoping to have some 'approved' ones back up shortly though!
Waiting and waiting
I didn't get any of the Star Wars DVDs, i guess i felt there should be a box set including all 6 Star Wars films, you think you think?

Listen to yourselves!
You people need to get over your "OMGZORES YOUR ALL MORONS" obsession. People have different opinions, some like the Prequels better some like the Orginal better some love it all, some hate it all.
You people really need to be more tolerant of one another. Enjoy it or hate it, theres absolutely NO reason to talk crap about other peoples opinions that concern a movie...
I personally loved it, I have my gripes about the series but its a great story and I will always enjoy it for what it is, not what it could be.
You people really need to be more tolerant of one another. Enjoy it or hate it, theres absolutely NO reason to talk crap about other peoples opinions that concern a movie...
I personally loved it, I have my gripes about the series but its a great story and I will always enjoy it for what it is, not what it could be.
They're not needed. It's Anakin Skywalker's story. So unless he was secretly cloned between prequels...
VII,VIII,IX
He onced promsed us a Trilogy of Trilogies. Where the hell is the finally trilogy 7,8,9?
No we don't, he will fuck up again! Dude evil's never going to end, but you got to draw a mark to end Star Wars and i'm fine with ROTS being finally over, now that, money hungry pig made his dough, i say stop while your ahead.
Star Wars: Episode VII,VIII,IX and boxset
I still think Lucas is being an ass ending it at Star Wars: Episode VI-Return of the Jedi. I'll wait for the boxset comes out for all 6 dvds. First there was a middle story IV,V,VI, then we all went backwords to tell the beginning story I,II,III now they connect but what about an ending story VII,VIII,IX? There are still questions to be asked. If the Sith is no more in Episode VI what about new and powerful evil enemies in the galaxy that can harness the power of the dark side to bring back the sith such as the dark jedi getting there hands on a kyber crytal? Did Vader really throw Darth Sideous in the main reactor of Death Star II in ROTJ or was it Palpatine's clone? What about the new Jedi order growing to old republic heights? What about Leia becoming a Jedi and Luke, Leia and Han's kids Ben Skywalker, Anakin Solo, Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo and new characters like Mara Jade Skywalker and Kyle Katarn? Who will protect the republic from new enemies in the new republic 30 or 40 years after Episode VI-ROTJ? All I have to say is to GL stop being an old lazy ass and bring on the Sequels. Forget tv shows we need the Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy.
Wow i can't wait to see the menu's for the extras
Quote: Originally posted by Matt Thompson
So you actually have the disc? I hate you, Tom Woodward.
Not necessarily, Fox could have sent him the images. Although if you do have the disc Tom, damn you!
So you actually have the disc? I hate you, Tom Woodward.
Not necessarily, Fox could have sent him the images. Although if you do have the disc Tom, damn you!

Cool and nice menus. They make me want it even more!
I hope the Bia Ling scenes are added. Was so dissapionted they were cut from the original,espically having met her at CIII. She awesome!
Padme, Luke and Leia
The Reason Leia remembers her mother is she has some of the force in her and through the force, you can see the past, present and future as Yoda told Luke. Leia assumed they were memories because she didn't 'know' she could access the force. Luke never remembered or accessed his mother through the past like leia before ROTJ, my guess, is because he was preoccupied training to be a jedi. Though I'm sure post ROTJ, Luke could see his mother through the force's access to the past, that's what Lucas meant by it explains itself in the larger scheme of things.
I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype, I will not fall for the hype.
Nice menus.
Roll on Nov 1 or near enough, day off work a few mates round few drinks and some grub and have a SW day all 6 startin from morning to night...
Quote: Originally posted by Matt Joseph
Nice...I can't wait to see what the other, alternating and random menu themes look like...
Yes, are we planning on seeing those as well?
At least the main menu page for each theme would be nice.
Nice...I can't wait to see what the other, alternating and random menu themes look like...
Yes, are we planning on seeing those as well?
At least the main menu page for each theme would be nice.
Excellent artwork and very nice menus. Considering that that this is much, much better than the first two prequels, this is going in my collection.
Quote: Originally posted by Tony Amadeo
I hated this movie, along with the rest of the new trilogy. If I pretend the new trilogy never happened, I can stay a happy man.
Amen to that !!
I hated this movie, along with the rest of the new trilogy. If I pretend the new trilogy never happened, I can stay a happy man.
Amen to that !!
Nice...I can't wait to see what the other, alternating and random menu themes look like...say what you will about Star Wars on DVD, but there is no denying that these six films have the best menus of anything out there.
So you actually have the disc? I hate you, Tom Woodward.
First look at the menu system added. I'm working on disc two menus...
Quote: Originally posted by Mcnasty .
I'll be buying this on VHS. They announced no VHS's for this movie.
I'll be buying this on VHS. They announced no VHS's for this movie.
I Have To Get This
I am definantly getting this movie when it comes out to DVD. I already have Episode I and the DVD Trilogy of the Original Movies and I think those are awsome DVDs and I still need to get Episode II. But anyway back to the point. I Loved this movie. It was definatly the best of the new trilogy. and it also does what it has to and gives closure to the entire saga and it helps to understand the Original Star Wars Trilogy alot better and also helps you get closure on the Struggle of Darth Vader. I am definatly BUYING this DVD.
Love that cover art, so glad they stuck with the same image format for all six movies and kept the gold lettering on the prequels' covers. The widescreen original trilogy covers are silver, which is appropriate for me cuz I like silver over gold.
I'll be buying this on VHS.
Quote: Originally posted by Nikki D
I'd really like to get this but I want to wait for a boxset of Episodes 1, 2, and 3. Funny thing is that I didn't even care for the 1st two new Star Wars movies, but I'm crazy and I need the complete story in a box set.
I'm kind of like you, Nikki. I'm not a big fan of the prequels (excluding Ep. III), but as a Star Wars fan, I feel I need them in my collection.
I'd really like to get this but I want to wait for a boxset of Episodes 1, 2, and 3. Funny thing is that I didn't even care for the 1st two new Star Wars movies, but I'm crazy and I need the complete story in a box set.
I'm kind of like you, Nikki. I'm not a big fan of the prequels (excluding Ep. III), but as a Star Wars fan, I feel I need them in my collection.
Quote: Originally posted by Giovanni Alberti
Ditto. I am the same when it comes to Star Wars. I'll be getting this and then the Ultimate boxset when it arrives. (Although a G rated version is a bit much lol). We just love Star Wars and Lucas.
right on bro
Ditto. I am the same when it comes to Star Wars. I'll be getting this and then the Ultimate boxset when it arrives. (Although a G rated version is a bit much lol). We just love Star Wars and Lucas.
right on bro
Awsome but I think I will wait untill the box-set ( =
WOW
I can't believe this DVD! I loved the movie. I hope that this isn't really the final artwork, I guess it's OK but I am not really feeling it!
Anyone else notice they changed only Obi-Wan's pose from the duel? Weird.
If you REALLY need a box set....
Try here for some AWESOME and reasonable custom cases !!!!
Can't decide which ones I want !
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Can't decide which ones I want !
Quote: Originally posted by Marc Boggio
When it comes to star wars, they can dip five times if they want- i have to have every new release...boxed set, special edition, original edition, directors cut, unrated version, toned-down G rated version, i dont care!!! i want star wars and lots of it!!!!! Yes i am aware that this post is solidifying that it is smart for Lucas to be greedy, but when it comes to star wars, my wallet is always open...im sorry but its the truth.
Ditto. I am the same when it comes to Star Wars. I'll be getting this and then the Ultimate boxset when it arrives. (Although a G rated version is a bit much lol). We just love Star Wars and Lucas.
When it comes to star wars, they can dip five times if they want- i have to have every new release...boxed set, special edition, original edition, directors cut, unrated version, toned-down G rated version, i dont care!!! i want star wars and lots of it!!!!! Yes i am aware that this post is solidifying that it is smart for Lucas to be greedy, but when it comes to star wars, my wallet is always open...im sorry but its the truth.
Ditto. I am the same when it comes to Star Wars. I'll be getting this and then the Ultimate boxset when it arrives. (Although a G rated version is a bit much lol). We just love Star Wars and Lucas.
When it comes to star wars, they can dip five times if they want- i have to have every new release...boxed set, special edition, original edition, directors cut, unrated version, toned-down G rated version, i dont care!!! i want star wars and lots of it!!!!! Yes i am aware that this post is solidifying that it is smart for Lucas to be greedy, but when it comes to star wars, my wallet is always open...im sorry but its the truth.
Batman Begins IS one of the best movies of the year, and I'm glad that Warner Bros. will do two-disc versions of all five movies they own on October 18th. I wish Star Wars had done two-disc versions of Episodes IV-VI.
Quote: Originally posted by stan strusky
how do you think its the worst movie all year? this is one of the years best, and its definatly better than fantastic four. or the devils rejects. or any movie except for war of the worlds and batman. this think its a better movie that those two but other people think different.
Yeah, War of The Worlds is awesome (best movie of the year). I didn't see Batman yet. Though, I saw Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. Awesome movie!
how do you think its the worst movie all year? this is one of the years best, and its definatly better than fantastic four. or the devils rejects. or any movie except for war of the worlds and batman. this think its a better movie that those two but other people think different.
Yeah, War of The Worlds is awesome (best movie of the year). I didn't see Batman yet. Though, I saw Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. Awesome movie!
Awesome cover, folks.
I can't wait until this movie comes out. Love the cover art. To me this was one of my favorite Star Wars films.
Nice to know the news is true.
The artwork is boring and lame.
i can't wait
im definately gonna pick this one up!!
I might as well get this since I have all the others on DVD.
I sort of wished I waited for the 6 disc set. :-p
I sort of wished I waited for the 6 disc set. :-p
This was a good film but it seemed to fake, too many of the sets and charecters were CGI and I think it took away from the experience. I liked WAR OF THE WORLDS and BATMAN BEGINS better than this but STAR WARS: EPISODE III- REVENGE OF THE SITH better than FANTASTIC FOUR (even though I enjoyed that quite a bit.)
Quote: Originally posted by Chris Gould
It's a pity that Anakin was so dumb really. The conversations between him and Palpatine went something like this:
Palps - "I'm an evil, manipulative Sith Lord. I promise can teach you to save the one you love from dying."
Anakin - "I'm so confused. I'm a Jedi, I should arrest you, but Natalie Portman is hot..."
A few scenes later.
Palps - "Anakin, I lied to you about being able to cheat death, but if we work together, I'm sure we'll figure it out before Natalie Portman dies in childbirth. Honest
"
Anakin - "Yes master. I'll go and kill all the kids - sorry, younglings - in the Jedi temple now, even though I really don't have any motivation to follow you after you've admitted you lied to me and can't do squat to save Natalie Portman..."LOL....Hmmm - I can hear Yoda in the background saying "Sarcastic you are...."
It's a pity that Anakin was so dumb really. The conversations between him and Palpatine went something like this:
Palps - "I'm an evil, manipulative Sith Lord. I promise can teach you to save the one you love from dying."
Anakin - "I'm so confused. I'm a Jedi, I should arrest you, but Natalie Portman is hot..."
A few scenes later.
Palps - "Anakin, I lied to you about being able to cheat death, but if we work together, I'm sure we'll figure it out before Natalie Portman dies in childbirth. Honest

Anakin - "Yes master. I'll go and kill all the kids - sorry, younglings - in the Jedi temple now, even though I really don't have any motivation to follow you after you've admitted you lied to me and can't do squat to save Natalie Portman..."LOL....Hmmm - I can hear Yoda in the background saying "Sarcastic you are...."
Quote: Originally posted by Joshua G
Best Star Wars Movie ever! It gets better with every viewing. Unfortunately Anakin's scar seems to be missing on this cover.dang just noticed that.
Best Star Wars Movie ever! It gets better with every viewing. Unfortunately Anakin's scar seems to be missing on this cover.dang just noticed that.
i am just going to wait till they release the entire saga together , not gonna waste money on this and then buy the entire collection in a nice box set
Which version of Return of the Jedi did you see, BK? 'Cuz I sure missed it. Raped childhood syndrome at work, folks. Someone who apparently hates a film, and yet can't stop talking about it.
It's a pity that Anakin was so dumb really. The conversations between him and Palpatine went something like this:
Palps - "I'm an evil, manipulative Sith Lord. I promise can teach you to save the one you love from dying."
Anakin - "I'm so confused. I'm a Jedi, I should arrest you, but Natalie Portman is hot..."
A few scenes later.
Palps - "Anakin, I lied to you about being able to cheat death, but if we work together, I'm sure we'll figure it out before Natalie Portman dies in childbirth. Honest
"
Anakin - "Yes master. I'll go and kill all the kids - sorry, younglings - in the Jedi temple now, even though I really don't have any motivation to follow you after you've admitted you lied to me and can't do squat to save Natalie Portman..."
Palps - "I'm an evil, manipulative Sith Lord. I promise can teach you to save the one you love from dying."
Anakin - "I'm so confused. I'm a Jedi, I should arrest you, but Natalie Portman is hot..."
A few scenes later.
Palps - "Anakin, I lied to you about being able to cheat death, but if we work together, I'm sure we'll figure it out before Natalie Portman dies in childbirth. Honest

Anakin - "Yes master. I'll go and kill all the kids - sorry, younglings - in the Jedi temple now, even though I really don't have any motivation to follow you after you've admitted you lied to me and can't do squat to save Natalie Portman..."
Quote: Originally posted by Neo Isondill
Love wasn't REALLY the motivation though. It was sorta out of fear... but if he had just listened to the Jedi they would have helped him. He didn't REALLY need to join the "Dark Side". Besides, he was even willing to kill the "younglings" of others. He kinda just turned full circle into a generic bad guy. And let us not forget that after he think's she's dead he moves on to kill loads more people and turns into the most despicable and evil leader in the galaxy. If he was doing it out of love, and realized he killed her, he should have known that that was the time to stop. He had made a grave mistake and using the Dark Force would no longer help him. In fact, it helped ruin him.
Anakin loved and feared loosing Padme. And the Jedi could have done nothing for Anakin because they would throw him out of the order. Since Anakin wanted both love and power he went to the only one who offered help...Palpatine. Anakin did not know that Palpatine was lying to him but he did what he said in hopes of saving Padme, becoming powerful, and bringing peace to the galaxy. When he heard that Padme died Anakin truly lost himself in Darth Vader and from then on lived to serve his master until the end of Return of the Jedi, where the love of his son brought him back. It's all very touching and beautiful.
Love wasn't REALLY the motivation though. It was sorta out of fear... but if he had just listened to the Jedi they would have helped him. He didn't REALLY need to join the "Dark Side". Besides, he was even willing to kill the "younglings" of others. He kinda just turned full circle into a generic bad guy. And let us not forget that after he think's she's dead he moves on to kill loads more people and turns into the most despicable and evil leader in the galaxy. If he was doing it out of love, and realized he killed her, he should have known that that was the time to stop. He had made a grave mistake and using the Dark Force would no longer help him. In fact, it helped ruin him.
Anakin loved and feared loosing Padme. And the Jedi could have done nothing for Anakin because they would throw him out of the order. Since Anakin wanted both love and power he went to the only one who offered help...Palpatine. Anakin did not know that Palpatine was lying to him but he did what he said in hopes of saving Padme, becoming powerful, and bringing peace to the galaxy. When he heard that Padme died Anakin truly lost himself in Darth Vader and from then on lived to serve his master until the end of Return of the Jedi, where the love of his son brought him back. It's all very touching and beautiful.

Except this movie has no plot. Things happen at random, with no logical reasoning behind them. It's filled with lame subplots designed to distract you from the fact that this movie sucks. You've been tricked into thinking that Ewan MacGregor and Hayden Christiansen twirling their lightsabers at each other is in any way dramatic. It's flash, with absolutely zero, nay - NEGATIVE substance. This movie has a strong hold over the WEAK MINDED. The dialogue and acting are laughable at best, and people even admit that. "Sure, the plot sucks, and the dialogue and the acting, but I still like it" is the major consensus out there, and it makes no sense.
So people either apologize for it, or they're genuinely stupid enough to think it's a good movie. It has pretty special effects, yay. So does the original trilogy - but at least those ones are well written and entertaining.
So people either apologize for it, or they're genuinely stupid enough to think it's a good movie. It has pretty special effects, yay. So does the original trilogy - but at least those ones are well written and entertaining.
This movie was totally awesome. I say what Kevin Smith(Mallrats) says. People who say they a Star Wars fans and don't like this movie is no real star wars fan at all. Because Episode 3 is just as good as Empire if not better. If you see this movie the whole star wars plot just false in place.
And i can't wait to own it!
And i can't wait to own it!
Quote: Originally posted by BK G
Worst movie of the year? You betcha!
Yeah, if it's the only movie you saw this year.
Worst movie of the year? You betcha!
Yeah, if it's the only movie you saw this year.
I loved this film!
I'll definately be picking this up. I love the artwork as well. It'll look really nice next to Episode II.
I'll definately be picking this up. I love the artwork as well. It'll look really nice next to Episode II.

Quote: Originally posted by BK G
I needed a good laugh today. Thanks.
how do you think its the worst movie all year? this is one of the years best, and its definatly better than fantastic four. or the devils rejects. or any movie except for war of the worlds and batman. this think its a better movie that those two but other people think different.
I needed a good laugh today. Thanks.
how do you think its the worst movie all year? this is one of the years best, and its definatly better than fantastic four. or the devils rejects. or any movie except for war of the worlds and batman. this think its a better movie that those two but other people think different.
Quote: Originally posted by Joshua G
Best Star Wars Movie ever! It gets better with every viewing.
I needed a good laugh today. Thanks.
Best Star Wars Movie ever! It gets better with every viewing.
I needed a good laugh today. Thanks.
That artwork is AWESOME! I loved this movie. Much better than the other prequels, better than Return of the Jedi (barely), but not as good as the first two to make it to the screen. Man, the later half of this year is shaping up to be great, with Interpreter, Kingdom of Heaven, Batman Begins, and Titanic in October (last three supposedly) and then this and Polar Express (the must experience it on big screen movie of 2004) officially in November. I can't wait!
Awesome cover as always. Can't wait for November 1st.
Best Star Wars Movie ever! It gets better with every viewing. Unfortunately Anakin's scar seems to be missing on this cover.
Worst movie of the year? You betcha!
I just saw Episode II (the first one I have ever seen). It was pretty good and I am looking forward to Episode III, but first, I need to see Episode I.
Best of the Series... uh oh....
I have been a huge SW fan from as far back in my life as I can remember (born 86'
. I Love the OT as much as anyone else there and, like many, I walked out of the midnight showing of ROTS slightly dissapointed. I saw it again the next day and I was really shocked at how much better it seemed to me. The action was the best of the entire series, the acting was actually pretty good (George still can't write that S***), and the story arc I thought was phenominal (yes, that's the adjective I want to use). After 3 more screenings and countless bootleg viewings, I really, truly believe it's the best in the entire series. I mean, look at the poll on this very website... i am sure i'm not alone. Call me crazy but Sith, in my eyes, has everything Empire had, and then some. The only thing Sith might have lacked was a Han Solo type character for some sarcastic humor, but this is a different, more dramatic story, and I felt that the laughs R2 and Yoda more than made up for that. Ok, now it's time to ripe me apart, lol.... GO!

It was the fact Anakin couldn't let anything go. In Episode II his mother dies and he slaughters an entire tribe of Tuskens. That's just multiplied ten-fold here. He simply, under no circumstances, can't let Padmé go for any reason, and so he does anything to save her, regardless of the consequences.
Love wasn't REALLY the motivation though. It was sorta out of fear... but if he had just listened to the Jedi they would have helped him. He didn't REALLY need to join the "Dark Side". Besides, he was even willing to kill the "younglings" of others. He kinda just turned full circle into a generic bad guy. And let us not forget that after he think's she's dead he moves on to kill loads more people and turns into the most despicable and evil leader in the galaxy. If he was doing it out of love, and realized he killed her, he should have known that that was the time to stop. He had made a grave mistake and using the Dark Force would no longer help him. In fact, it helped ruin him.
Quote: Originally posted by Neo Isondill
I hated this movie. It was the worst of these prequels... I still can't believe the story. That was why the film was so weak. Did George Lucas REALLY write the original Star Wars and Indiana Jones films? It's hard to believe the person responsible for those GREAT stories has given us THIS kind of story. Were we really supposed to buy the explanation for why he went to the dark side? There was so little motivation. It seemed, honestly, like a poorly written fan-fic. I expect better from Lucas.
Love is the only needed motivation. Love itself is capable of anything. I think George Lucas did a fine job, even if he does write some bad dialouge here and there.
I hated this movie. It was the worst of these prequels... I still can't believe the story. That was why the film was so weak. Did George Lucas REALLY write the original Star Wars and Indiana Jones films? It's hard to believe the person responsible for those GREAT stories has given us THIS kind of story. Were we really supposed to buy the explanation for why he went to the dark side? There was so little motivation. It seemed, honestly, like a poorly written fan-fic. I expect better from Lucas.
Love is the only needed motivation. Love itself is capable of anything. I think George Lucas did a fine job, even if he does write some bad dialouge here and there.
I hated this movie. It was the worst of these prequels... I still can't believe the story. That was why the film was so weak. Did George Lucas REALLY write the original Star Wars and Indiana Jones films? It's hard to believe the person responsible for those GREAT stories has given us THIS kind of story. Were we really supposed to buy the explanation for why he went to the dark side? There was so little motivation. It seemed, honestly, like a poorly written fan-fic. I expect better from Lucas.
The cover is ok, but I'll just download a better one later anyway. Movie wise, this wasn't a bad film. Far better then SW:TPM. A must buy for me.
I do enjoy this cover, much better then the last two. To me this movie had a far better and different tone then the last 2, thank GOD
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Quote: Originally posted by Tony Amadeo
I hated this movie, along with the rest of the new trilogy. If I pretend the new trilogy never happened, I can stay a happy man.
AMEN !!!!
I hated this movie, along with the rest of the new trilogy. If I pretend the new trilogy never happened, I can stay a happy man.
AMEN !!!!
Quote: Originally posted by Chris Gould
I've never understood the argument that all the changes to the original trilogy are positive because they update the films to match the prequels. Surely the reverse should be true? The viewpoint that they needed to be restored to save them from obsolescence is a valid one, but restoration and alteration are completely different things. Cleaning the films up and removing a few matte lines is worlds away from adding shitty CGI dance routines (with the most ill-fitting music in the whole saga) and fundamentaly altering character arcs. Meh.
ROTS was ok, and actually quite enjoyable on repeating viewings, but it's still a flawed film.
Agreed very much so on everything you said. Lucas has a hatred for his series so all he's done lately is milk it by altering it again and again.
Sith wasn't the best of the entire series, but it was a great film.
I've never understood the argument that all the changes to the original trilogy are positive because they update the films to match the prequels. Surely the reverse should be true? The viewpoint that they needed to be restored to save them from obsolescence is a valid one, but restoration and alteration are completely different things. Cleaning the films up and removing a few matte lines is worlds away from adding shitty CGI dance routines (with the most ill-fitting music in the whole saga) and fundamentaly altering character arcs. Meh.
ROTS was ok, and actually quite enjoyable on repeating viewings, but it's still a flawed film.
Agreed very much so on everything you said. Lucas has a hatred for his series so all he's done lately is milk it by altering it again and again.
Sith wasn't the best of the entire series, but it was a great film.
I like it. It compliments the previous covers, while having its own distinctive look.
OMG
That coverart is soooo AWESOME! I can not wait for this DVD release. I think I am going to start counting down the days. LOL
yeah, compared to the other covers, it matches, and it really does look OK. its defiantely not as busy as some of the other covers (take ATTACK OF THE CLONES for example)
They show too much of Palpatine in the cover. Makes him look cheap. Other then that, no real complaints.
Quote: Originally posted by tom normandy
I heard such bad things about this movie. I heard it was the worst star wars yet...hmmm..
What lunatic told ya that? Sith is by far the best of the prequels. Some even think it's better then Jedi.
Quote: Originally posted by tom normandy
I heard such bad things about this movie. I heard it was the worst star wars yet...hmmm..
What lunatic told ya that? Sith is by far the best of the prequels. Some even think it's better then Jedi.
Artwork
I wasn't crazy about the artwork for any of the DVD releases, but I have to say this is one of the better covers. It would be nice for Fox/Lucasfilm to offer covers that have the original poster art, but then again that is what Photoshop is for!
Can't wait. This was a return to form for the series and it will be great to have in the library.

Can't wait. This was a return to form for the series and it will be great to have in the library.
Quote: Originally posted by stuart bannerman
r.e Leia remembering her mother. Surely shes talking about her adopted mother. . . . a.k.a Jimmy Smit's wife. . .
Luke asks here if she remembers her real mother.
r.e Leia remembering her mother. Surely shes talking about her adopted mother. . . . a.k.a Jimmy Smit's wife. . .
Luke asks here if she remembers her real mother.
I heard such bad things about this movie. I heard it was the worst star wars yet...hmmm..
I don't know if I like the artwork. Padme looks like she is supossed to be in Lord of the Rings! And all the heards are just floating there and the drawn pic with them fighting is out of place. I will get used to it but my first reaction was not positive.
I heard that the dvd cut is going to run at about 6 minutes longer than the original !
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AWFUL ARTWORK! Hayden Christiensen looks really weird! What's with his hair? It's as if he forgot to blow-dry them on the left side lol!
r.e Leia remembering her mother. Surely shes talking about her adopted mother. . . . a.k.a Jimmy Smit's wife. . .
Added a new street date (1st November), along with a few more details and the official artwork...
Definately better than the first two prequels. I have been holding off buying any star wars movies until they were all in one boxset. As much as I love them, I am in no hurry.
It will be great to finally see all 6 films on dvd together.
It will be great to finally see all 6 films on dvd together.
I have never been able to watch a star wars movie, ever!!! they are just so painfully boring.
I'll definitely be picking this one up myself. I am in agreeance that it is a good movie next to ANH & ROTJ.
I wish I would have kept my original laserdiscs of the trilogy, because they were re-mastered for the time and looked really good, plus they weren't special edition, so everything was there. Oh well, maybe someday the movies will be released the way they should have been.
I wish I would have kept my original laserdiscs of the trilogy, because they were re-mastered for the time and looked really good, plus they weren't special edition, so everything was there. Oh well, maybe someday the movies will be released the way they should have been.
Just accept this as a popcorn movie of the series - i'll be getting it and i won't bother about the ritzy ditzy box set as i am really starting to hate the double dips....
Can't wait for this. This is a must have for sure. I hope they incorperate some new scenes in the movie that was not in the theater. Like Yoda landing on Dagobah
STAR WARS: EPISODE III- REVENGE OF THE SITH (2005)
i thought that this film was a pretty good ending to the triolgy and a good bridge between the triolgies. I kinda wanted more in terms of acting but can't change that now. This DVD is going to jampacked with features and its going to be great. I can't wait to pick it up. The effects were amazing. And for that reason this was my favorite to THE PHANTOM MENACE and ATTACK OF THE CLONES.
Quote: Originally posted by Chris Gould
I've never understood the argument that all the changes to the original trilogy are positive because they update the films to match the prequels. Surely the reverse should be true?
Bingo! We've discussed this to death so I won't bother, but if Lucas really had any talent as a writer / filmmaker he would have made the prequels fit the originals and not vice versa. He's a hollywood business man, and nothing more
I've never understood the argument that all the changes to the original trilogy are positive because they update the films to match the prequels. Surely the reverse should be true?
Bingo! We've discussed this to death so I won't bother, but if Lucas really had any talent as a writer / filmmaker he would have made the prequels fit the originals and not vice versa. He's a hollywood business man, and nothing more

I thought ROTS was the best of the series. It really did it for me. I loved every single minute of the movie.
I've never understood the argument that all the changes to the original trilogy are positive because they update the films to match the prequels. Surely the reverse should be true? The viewpoint that they needed to be restored to save them from obsolescence is a valid one, but restoration and alteration are completely different things. Cleaning the films up and removing a few matte lines is worlds away from adding shitty CGI dance routines (with the most ill-fitting music in the whole saga) and fundamentaly altering character arcs. Meh.
ROTS was ok, and actually quite enjoyable on repeating viewings, but it's still a flawed film.
ROTS was ok, and actually quite enjoyable on repeating viewings, but it's still a flawed film.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for more Dooku too !!
I'm buying it. Definitely.
Look folks, this isn't fine art like the "Mona Lisa." I feel that George Lucas is primarily trying to make the older films look and feel like they are part of the same universe. I have recently viewed the original VHS tapes. In my opinion, they were in extreme need of technological updating. There were so many matte lines present that it really detracted from the enjoyment of the films. My only beef with Mr. Lucas is the decision to change the essence of a character like Han Solo. It's like Disney re-animating portions of "Bambi" so that his mother doesn't fall by the rifle of a hunter.
Quote: Originally posted by Wilson Bros
Keep an eye on the birth of Luke & Leia, and you will notice that Leia always has her eyes open, justifying that she did indeed see her mother, if just fleetingly. But looking at Luke, you will see that he always has his eyes firmly shut, giving him "no memory of my mother".
You could arge that as Leia is of Jedi stock, she has a greater capacity to remember things, giving her clear recall of events, but I think that it has been covered enough by what is in Episode III.
Yeah, or you could just realize that Lucas is full of shit and hasn't even half-thought out the prequels, accounting for the reason that there is not a good movie in all three.
Keep an eye on the birth of Luke & Leia, and you will notice that Leia always has her eyes open, justifying that she did indeed see her mother, if just fleetingly. But looking at Luke, you will see that he always has his eyes firmly shut, giving him "no memory of my mother".
You could arge that as Leia is of Jedi stock, she has a greater capacity to remember things, giving her clear recall of events, but I think that it has been covered enough by what is in Episode III.
Yeah, or you could just realize that Lucas is full of shit and hasn't even half-thought out the prequels, accounting for the reason that there is not a good movie in all three.
BUT I DIDNT WANT TO WATCH THEM! I SWEAR!
Quote: Originally posted by Peter Stanchek
And yes, George did make me watch them. And buy them. Damn you, George. Damn you.
HAHAHAHA! That statement basically sums up the negative stances that most fanboys have stated.
And yes, George did make me watch them. And buy them. Damn you, George. Damn you.
HAHAHAHA! That statement basically sums up the negative stances that most fanboys have stated.
E3 was the best prequel, by far. It tied up most of the loose ends, had a few entertaining parts, and I welcomed the darkness of the third act, but other than that, I thought it pretty much blew. I would've been just as happy if George sat down with me for an hour or two and just gave me the broad strokes for the prequels instead of making me watch all of them.
And yes, George did make me watch them. And buy them. Damn you, George. Damn you.
And yes, George did make me watch them. And buy them. Damn you, George. Damn you.
I am a complete supporter of George Lucas and all the changes he makes to the films. They are after all his art and as an aspirirng artist I understand why he wants to make changes and make the films perfect in his eyes. Now there some changes I do not approve of but I have learned to deal with them. Plus the changes and especially the new effects have helped the films survive and stand next to the effects of the new trilogy. If they were never restored they would have been beyond saving considering all the dirt and scratches on the films. They now look practically brand new with the restoration and new special effects. I have never enjoyed the Star Wars saga as I am now. Go George!!!
Quote: Originally posted by Giovanni Alberti
Well an early rumor on Digitalbits stated a 6 pack but it is believed not to be the ultimate set just the six films as on dvd now packed together.I'd take that 6-pack. The "ultimate set" would likely have even more of Lucas's butchering.
Well an early rumor on Digitalbits stated a 6 pack but it is believed not to be the ultimate set just the six films as on dvd now packed together.I'd take that 6-pack. The "ultimate set" would likely have even more of Lucas's butchering.
Did you folks all just come out from under a rock or what?
The 6-movie box set won't come out till the 2007 30th Anniversary of ANH.
The 3-movie PT box set is supposed to come out at the same time as the single version of ROTS.
The thing is, if the treatment to the box is anything like they used for the OT box, then they can forget it. I quickly discarded my OT box as it's too flimsy and in effect broke up the saga. I just display my Star Wars movies all in a row with custom art.
The 6-movie box set won't come out till the 2007 30th Anniversary of ANH.
The 3-movie PT box set is supposed to come out at the same time as the single version of ROTS.
The thing is, if the treatment to the box is anything like they used for the OT box, then they can forget it. I quickly discarded my OT box as it's too flimsy and in effect broke up the saga. I just display my Star Wars movies all in a row with custom art.
Quote: Originally posted by Tony Amadeo
I hated this movie, along with the rest of the new trilogy. If I pretend the new trilogy never happened, I can stay a happy man.
Unfortunately that's not possible with all the changes Lucas has made to the original films in order to tie them into his new trilogy. No matter how hard you try to deny the existence of the prequels, it's still gonna be Hayden's mug at the end of Jedi...
I hated this movie, along with the rest of the new trilogy. If I pretend the new trilogy never happened, I can stay a happy man.
Unfortunately that's not possible with all the changes Lucas has made to the original films in order to tie them into his new trilogy. No matter how hard you try to deny the existence of the prequels, it's still gonna be Hayden's mug at the end of Jedi...
Still no information on the Jinn voice scene... If that twat Neeson still doesn't want to shoot it, GL should simply use an impersonator...
There is a long rumored 30th anniversary release of all the star wars movies in an ultimate edition for blu-ray, with the originals, super special editions and prequels. Plus deleted scenes for all the movies, numerous documentaries, etc..
Just thought I'd mention it for those unaware.
Just thought I'd mention it for those unaware.
Looking forward to this one ! I do think Lucas will re-release these all down the line with new/removed footage and tweeked special effects.He'll never stop.
I hated this movie, along with the rest of the new trilogy. If I pretend the new trilogy never happened, I can stay a happy man.
Original versions of the first trilogy?
I still hope for the release of the original version of the original trilogy. I have the special edition dvds and the boxed set, but I miss the original versions with no added Boba Fett, with the Ewok song and Han Solo killing Greedo in cold blood... those were the days, my friend...
"Just a little bit: she died when I was very young..."
Keep an eye on the birth of Luke & Leia, and you will notice that Leia always has her eyes open, justifying that she did indeed see her mother, if just fleetingly. But looking at Luke, you will see that he always has his eyes firmly shut, giving him "no memory of my mother".
You could arge that as Leia is of Jedi stock, she has a greater capacity to remember things, giving her clear recall of events, but I think that it has been covered enough by what is in Episode III.
You could arge that as Leia is of Jedi stock, she has a greater capacity to remember things, giving her clear recall of events, but I think that it has been covered enough by what is in Episode III.
While I feel entirely justified in my criticism of Lucas over the way he handled the release of episodes IV-VI on DVD and the prequels in general, I still can't wait to get my grubby little mitts on Episode III ROTS. The film was by far the best of the prequels and third best overall behind Empire and Hope. Surely Lucas will release the films again at some point down the road to tick us all off. I still WANT this NOW
I hope they have something where you can send away for a box for the first three movies ala Lord Of The Rings
SITH VS. JEDI
Will be curious if Lucas, in the commentary atl east, justify the ending to what Leia said in Jedi about her "real" mother.
I'd really like to get this but I want to wait for a boxset of Episodes 1, 2, and 3. Funny thing is that I didn't even care for the 1st two new Star Wars movies, but I'm crazy and I need the complete story in a box set.
Who's offering odds on loads of deleted scenes being reinserted to all 6 films when the super mega dvd sextology box set (10 disc version) arrives ???
And Lucas, I've just trademarked that sextology thing by the way, so if you want to use it, give me a call.
And Lucas, I've just trademarked that sextology thing by the way, so if you want to use it, give me a call.
This is on my list. Yoda arriving on the swamp lands would have been very cool to see. But, we know how it goes

I have GOT to buy this. This is my new favorite Star Wars movie and I'm definitely buying this.
Quote: Originally posted by -MFDOOM-
Where's my ultimate boxset?
I'm just gonna buy Clones and this. I don't need another box set.
Quote: Originally posted by -MFDOOM-
Where's my ultimate boxset?
I'm just gonna buy Clones and this. I don't need another box set.
Well an early rumor on Digitalbits stated a 6 pack but it is believed not to be the ultimate set just the six films as on dvd now packed together.
I don't think they will release all six together they will probably release the prequels in there own set like the other 3
Where's my ultimate boxset?
YES
I loved Episode III and I am so happy that we finally have official specs. The deleted scenes sound awesome and the documentaries are always great. I do have to agree and say that it would have been nice to see these in the movie but I understand why they were cut and we’ll see them soon anyway. Now I can’t wait to see the coverart!!!
I'm waiting for the first box set that will include all 6 movies. I don't mind waiting since I've seen all the episodes so many times.
This scene SHOULD BE reinserted back into the movie. Like the original poster said, the scene does make Padme's character more intresting, but since it was taken out, her character became more of a "filler" and not the focal point as she was in the last two.
Glad to see the specs that floated around online a month ago are true. There are a lot of interesting scenes that didn't make the final cut - including Yoda arriving on Degobah.
Can't wait!
Nice, but....
...this is a scene that really should have been included in the movie, in spite of the effect it has on the pace. Hell, in the movie the character of Mon Mothma only appears for about 3 seconds at the back of a growd of people before the scene hastily cuts away.
It would have also meant that Natalie Portman would have not had such a raw deal, as the Alliance scenes were the main focus of her character, when they were removed, all she needed to do was to just be "barefoot and pregnant", so to speak. Padme was a firm and driven character in the previous movies, when the Alliance scenes were excise from Episode III, her character was diminished.
We knew this was going to be included on the disc, and that 5 other scenes are yours to be had, but they shot at least 30 minutes of finished film than ended up in the final cut, so they really aren't being generous with the extras.
Come to think of it, the extras on the prequel DVDs have been rather uniform in their content, but this is symptomatic of Lucas controlling everything.
Looking forward to it, though.
It would have also meant that Natalie Portman would have not had such a raw deal, as the Alliance scenes were the main focus of her character, when they were removed, all she needed to do was to just be "barefoot and pregnant", so to speak. Padme was a firm and driven character in the previous movies, when the Alliance scenes were excise from Episode III, her character was diminished.
We knew this was going to be included on the disc, and that 5 other scenes are yours to be had, but they shot at least 30 minutes of finished film than ended up in the final cut, so they really aren't being generous with the extras.
Come to think of it, the extras on the prequel DVDs have been rather uniform in their content, but this is symptomatic of Lucas controlling everything.
Looking forward to it, though.
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