Star Wars (US - DVD R1)
You thought it would never happen, but it is. Yup, the 'Original' films are incoming!
Title: Star Wars
Starring: Harrison Ford
Released: 12th September 2006
SRP: $29.98
Further Details:
The shock news today is that Lucasfilm and Fox Home Entertainment has announced plans to release the original theatrical incarnations of the classic Star Wars trilogy. In response to overwhelming demand, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will release attractively priced individual two-disc releases of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Each release includes the 2004 digitally remastered version of the movie and, as bonus material, the theatrical edition of the film. That means you'll be able to enjoy Star Wars as it first appeared in 1977, Empire in 1980, and Jedi in 1983. This release will only be available for a limited time: from September 12th to December 31st, with each title priced at around $29.98. The International release will follow on or about the same day. Each original theatrical version will feature Dolby 2.0 Surround sound, close-captioning, and subtitles in English, French and Spanish for their U.S. release. International sound and subtitling vary by territory.
News by Tom Woodward
Starring: Harrison Ford
Released: 12th September 2006
SRP: $29.98
Further Details:
The shock news today is that Lucasfilm and Fox Home Entertainment has announced plans to release the original theatrical incarnations of the classic Star Wars trilogy. In response to overwhelming demand, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will release attractively priced individual two-disc releases of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Each release includes the 2004 digitally remastered version of the movie and, as bonus material, the theatrical edition of the film. That means you'll be able to enjoy Star Wars as it first appeared in 1977, Empire in 1980, and Jedi in 1983. This release will only be available for a limited time: from September 12th to December 31st, with each title priced at around $29.98. The International release will follow on or about the same day. Each original theatrical version will feature Dolby 2.0 Surround sound, close-captioning, and subtitles in English, French and Spanish for their U.S. release. International sound and subtitling vary by territory.
News by Tom Woodward
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Matthew Clayton wrote: I'm just going to ignore all the fans whining about how the original unaltered trilogy doesn't have anamorphic enhancement or a 5.1 remix. I'm going to get the 2-disc editions and just enjoy them as they were without all the alterations Lucas made...
This release sounds suitable for only those who want the special editions, and have a passing interest in seeing the original editions.
I doubt a collector specifically looking for the original versions will be satisfied. That said, we'll see how it turns out when Chris returns his verdict.
This release sounds suitable for only those who want the special editions, and have a passing interest in seeing the original editions.
I doubt a collector specifically looking for the original versions will be satisfied. That said, we'll see how it turns out when Chris returns his verdict.
My sentiments exactly Matthew.
Matthew, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You're just the latest in a long line of ill-informed people who want to bash Star Wars fans for demanding a quality product. Who asked for a 5.1 remix? All people want is a decent, restored anamorphic transfer with the original (or as close to it as is possible) audio. That's what every other major series has received: the Godfather films, the Indiana Jones films, the Back to the Future films...
Slapping thirteen year old, non-anamorphic laserdisc masters on DVD as a way of selling more toys and games isn't exactly what you'd expect from a company that supposedly prides itself on quality. It's shameful in 2006.
I'm guessing you haven't actually seen these new DVDs yet either? Well I have, and they don't look much better than some of the bootlegs that you can get on the Internet (in fact, they look worse than a couple of bootlegs). There are no 'cool menu transitions', just a breif opening animation. The multiple language and sub options were hardly difficult to implement, and if they hadn't done it they would have lost out on sales (I'm sure that was the only motivation for doing it). Then again, why am I even debating this with someone whose attitude seems to be 'I don't have a widescreen TV, so f**k everyone else'? We'll see how much you (or any of the other counter-whining brigade) enjoy them when you do get a widescreen set.
Slapping thirteen year old, non-anamorphic laserdisc masters on DVD as a way of selling more toys and games isn't exactly what you'd expect from a company that supposedly prides itself on quality. It's shameful in 2006.
I'm guessing you haven't actually seen these new DVDs yet either? Well I have, and they don't look much better than some of the bootlegs that you can get on the Internet (in fact, they look worse than a couple of bootlegs). There are no 'cool menu transitions', just a breif opening animation. The multiple language and sub options were hardly difficult to implement, and if they hadn't done it they would have lost out on sales (I'm sure that was the only motivation for doing it). Then again, why am I even debating this with someone whose attitude seems to be 'I don't have a widescreen TV, so f**k everyone else'? We'll see how much you (or any of the other counter-whining brigade) enjoy them when you do get a widescreen set.
I think i'll hold onto my 2004 release and wait for the big box set.
the non anamorphic thing isnt that big an issue even if you do have a widescreen hdtv...we have one in the living room and I recently watched the x-files movie...i have the old 99/2000 version that wasnt anamorphic and I watched it on that tv...i had to adjust the picture cuz it had bigger "black bars" than it should ...but once I fixed the image the movie looked just as nice, crisp and beautiful as my dvds that are anamorphic..
so I think this is just something only "tech heads" would notice because I can't count now many reviews I read (on this site and many others) that claim there are picture issues and its movies I own myself which looked perfect in my eyes...
not defending lucas's move here...in 2006, there shouldnt be dvds released non anamorphic but just saying its not that big a deal for everyone
so I think this is just something only "tech heads" would notice because I can't count now many reviews I read (on this site and many others) that claim there are picture issues and its movies I own myself which looked perfect in my eyes...
not defending lucas's move here...in 2006, there shouldnt be dvds released non anamorphic but just saying its not that big a deal for everyone
I used to have the 1-disc non-anamorphic Titanic which was released some years ago now (still available if you shop around) and the quality was significantly less than something which has received a fine image transfer and some TLC such as the Star Wars prequels in terms of image quality, especially compared to the marvellous 4-disc set that's recently been released. This lack of quality was magnified when fixing the image on a widescreen TV.
However, it is common among many manufacturers to give their bonus features or even entire bonus discs non-anamorphic transfers and not to polish them up as they might do for the main film. I think that the people at Lucasfilm realise there's people who want the originals in their original form, but seeing as George doesn't see them as the definitive versions of his films and claims to have no copy of the original negatives (not a debate I want to get into right now), then the best he was ever going to treat this was as bonus material; something intended to be viewed for comparison and curiosity more than entertainment, which I daresay is what he intends disc 1 to be.
I'll find it interesting to see for the first time in a long time what the original films looked like and how they were changed and as a keen fan I'll probably get these. But I'm quite happy with the changes that have been made and am not too bothered by them, so this release isn't too controversial for me. I would suggest that at the end of the day they're only films and not too controversial for a lot of people. Heck, there are a lot of fans out there who don't even know Greedo was meant to shoot first! And if you tell them, do you want to know how much they care? Not a lot.
However, it is common among many manufacturers to give their bonus features or even entire bonus discs non-anamorphic transfers and not to polish them up as they might do for the main film. I think that the people at Lucasfilm realise there's people who want the originals in their original form, but seeing as George doesn't see them as the definitive versions of his films and claims to have no copy of the original negatives (not a debate I want to get into right now), then the best he was ever going to treat this was as bonus material; something intended to be viewed for comparison and curiosity more than entertainment, which I daresay is what he intends disc 1 to be.
I'll find it interesting to see for the first time in a long time what the original films looked like and how they were changed and as a keen fan I'll probably get these. But I'm quite happy with the changes that have been made and am not too bothered by them, so this release isn't too controversial for me. I would suggest that at the end of the day they're only films and not too controversial for a lot of people. Heck, there are a lot of fans out there who don't even know Greedo was meant to shoot first! And if you tell them, do you want to know how much they care? Not a lot.
Bouncy X wrote: the non anamorphic thing isnt that big an issue even if you do have a widescreen hdtv...we have one in the living room and I recently watched the x-files movie...i have the old 99/2000 version that wasnt anamorphic and I watched it on that tv...i had to adjust the picture cuz it had bigger "black bars" than it should ...but once I fixed the image the movie looked just as nice, crisp and beautiful as my dvds that are anamorphic..
so I think this is just something only "tech heads" would notice because I can't count now many reviews I read (on this site and many others) that claim there are picture issues and its movies I own myself which looked perfect in my eyes...
not defending lucas's move here...in 2006, there shouldnt be dvds released non anamorphic but just saying its not that big a deal for everyone
Fair enough, but why bother attacking the people that are bothered by it? What annoys me about people like Matthew is that they seem to think because they don't have a problem with it, no one else should. To be honest though, if you can't tell the difference between a zoomed non-anamorphic and anamorphic title then there's something awry.
And Ralph, Greedo wasn't meant to shoot at all, let alone first... I think the issue is more to do with the fact that the new effect looks c**p than anything else.
so I think this is just something only "tech heads" would notice because I can't count now many reviews I read (on this site and many others) that claim there are picture issues and its movies I own myself which looked perfect in my eyes...
not defending lucas's move here...in 2006, there shouldnt be dvds released non anamorphic but just saying its not that big a deal for everyone
Fair enough, but why bother attacking the people that are bothered by it? What annoys me about people like Matthew is that they seem to think because they don't have a problem with it, no one else should. To be honest though, if you can't tell the difference between a zoomed non-anamorphic and anamorphic title then there's something awry.
And Ralph, Greedo wasn't meant to shoot at all, let alone first... I think the issue is more to do with the fact that the new effect looks c**p than anything else.
I perfectly understand what you're talking about, Chris (about it not being anamorphic). Increased picture quality and a proper restoration, I can understand that. I bet that if the laserdisc transfers were given anamorphic enhancement (but not restored) I bet people would complain about the lack of a digital restoration. Still, I know quite a few people who are ecstatic about the unaltered trilogy being given a legit DVD release and will buy them regardless of that issue (even if they do have a widescreen and/or HDTV). And there's even the small minority who want restored versions of the 1997 Special Editions, and so forth...
I can probably make a related statement about the "The Little Mermaid" 2-disc re-release. The movie was first released in 1999, barebones and non-anamorphic, but it had the original 1989 version intact. Now in 2006, the re-release has a digital restoration, anamorphic enhancement and extras galore, but there is the possibility that the movie could have redrawn artwork to "enhance" the movie and could be a new version of the film (meaning slightly different backgrounds and characters). Disney has done some minor George Lucas-esque revisions to their animated films on DVD, particularly on "The Lion King". If that turns out to be true for TLM, I don't think I'll see as many people demanding an anamorphic version, with all the original animation and backgrounds untouched.
I can probably make a related statement about the "The Little Mermaid" 2-disc re-release. The movie was first released in 1999, barebones and non-anamorphic, but it had the original 1989 version intact. Now in 2006, the re-release has a digital restoration, anamorphic enhancement and extras galore, but there is the possibility that the movie could have redrawn artwork to "enhance" the movie and could be a new version of the film (meaning slightly different backgrounds and characters). Disney has done some minor George Lucas-esque revisions to their animated films on DVD, particularly on "The Lion King". If that turns out to be true for TLM, I don't think I'll see as many people demanding an anamorphic version, with all the original animation and backgrounds untouched.
Matthew Clayton wrote: I can probably make a related statement about the "The Little Mermaid" 2-disc re-release. The movie was first released in 1999, barebones and non-anamorphic, but it had the original 1989 version intact. Now in 2006, the re-release has a digital restoration, anamorphic enhancement and extras galore, but there is the possibility that the movie could have redrawn artwork to "enhance" the movie and could be a new version of the film (meaning slightly different backgrounds and characters). Disney has done some minor George Lucas-esque revisions to their animated films on DVD, particularly on "The Lion King". If that turns out to be true for TLM, I don't think I'll see as many people demanding an anamorphic version, with all the original animation and backgrounds untouched.
That's because it's The Little Mermaid, not Star Wars.
That's because it's The Little Mermaid, not Star Wars.
There were changes to The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast, but the option to watch the digitally restored, anamorphic original version in the same quality as the enhanced version was there on both discs too. And the only changes were an additional musical sequence branched into each one. There are loads of DVDs out there that have the option to watch additional scenes branched into the original or not, so lay off the Disneys please.
As for these DVD releases, there's a statement on www.starwars.com which says that these are the first and only releases that the original unaltered trilogy will see on DVD. Methinks that means that this is either as good as it gets, or he's saving the one remaining ace up his sleeve (digitally remastered, anamorphic unaltered trilogy) for a major hi-def re-release. I doubt it though. George prefers the newer versions and always has done, and so do most of the people who buy them if you ask around.
In fact, people who are new to the saga actually prefer the sequels.
As for these DVD releases, there's a statement on www.starwars.com which says that these are the first and only releases that the original unaltered trilogy will see on DVD. Methinks that means that this is either as good as it gets, or he's saving the one remaining ace up his sleeve (digitally remastered, anamorphic unaltered trilogy) for a major hi-def re-release. I doubt it though. George prefers the newer versions and always has done, and so do most of the people who buy them if you ask around.
In fact, people who are new to the saga actually prefer the sequels.
That's a bit of a generalisation. I know plenty of people who are new to the films and prefer the originals. Also, I don't trust a word that comes out of Lucas'/Lucasfilms' mouths now. We were told, unequivocally, that there would be no OT release. However, as soon as they have some new toys and games to plug, they release them. They weren't even going to be part of the individual releases originally. They were only added when someone figured out that people wouldn't buy the SEs again.
Well, my point is that I don't think that this set of releases is worth getting out of one's pram about. There are things which I'd desperately love to see released on DVD, more than Star Wars (as I'm happy with the 2004 versions), but I don't get worked up about them as it's really not worth it. Doesn't help the matter much in the end. At the end of the day, they're gonna sell. You've just got to look at the top 10 DVDs on pre-order on amazon or hmv to know that. If you don't want to buy them, fair enough and you've got your own valid reasons, but there's no need to have a fight with people who want to buy them who have equally valid opinions and reasons.
Bah, i'm probably alone in thinking the altered versions are just fine. I mean do you REALLY want a human Jabba the hut?
'You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know...' from The Big Lebowski. Only replace 'movie' with 'forum'.
and
'Donny, you're out of your element'.
Jabba wasn't in the original '77 version, as a man or anything else. The scene didn't even exist and the film was all the better for it.
See. Lucas is winning. People are gradually forgetting what the '77 releases had in them.
As far as I can see, the vast majority of the changes and improvements for the trilogy were a good thing. The end Death Star battle in Star Wars is much more dynamic now than it was. I should point out that I never had a problem with the '77 effects for that sequence before I get jumped on.
The problem I think for most fans (who were of an age to grow up with these films) is that the remaining small percentage of changes really were juvenile and done just for the lets just see what we can do, lets see how far we can push this-ness of it all.
Jabba should be gone from Star Wars
Han should be left to be the cold mercenary he was portrayed to be.
Jabba's house band needs removal from Jedi.
Hayden Christensen... okay. I can live with him in Jedi but someone intergrate him in the scene properly. Don't just thin down Sebastian Shaw's body and do a head/neck replacement on him. And get him to loosen up a bit and look like he's actually genuinely happy to be among his friends again.
Do thos things and the original trilogy is okay as a Spec Ed in my book.
and
'Donny, you're out of your element'.
Jabba wasn't in the original '77 version, as a man or anything else. The scene didn't even exist and the film was all the better for it.
See. Lucas is winning. People are gradually forgetting what the '77 releases had in them.
As far as I can see, the vast majority of the changes and improvements for the trilogy were a good thing. The end Death Star battle in Star Wars is much more dynamic now than it was. I should point out that I never had a problem with the '77 effects for that sequence before I get jumped on.
The problem I think for most fans (who were of an age to grow up with these films) is that the remaining small percentage of changes really were juvenile and done just for the lets just see what we can do, lets see how far we can push this-ness of it all.
Jabba should be gone from Star Wars
Han should be left to be the cold mercenary he was portrayed to be.
Jabba's house band needs removal from Jedi.
Hayden Christensen... okay. I can live with him in Jedi but someone intergrate him in the scene properly. Don't just thin down Sebastian Shaw's body and do a head/neck replacement on him. And get him to loosen up a bit and look like he's actually genuinely happy to be among his friends again.
Do thos things and the original trilogy is okay as a Spec Ed in my book.
I agree with what Ralph said. These are movies and that is that. It isn't the end of the world, it definitely isn't worth spending hours upon hours pissing and moaning about them having this or not having that. Just as I have said to Bill Hunt over at Digital Bits via email; if you don't like them, don't buy them or accept freebes to review then.
I come from THE generation that the first films were made for and I feel neither slighted nor robbed of my memories by Lucas' restorations/additions.
Through the majority of my childhood/teens I watched these films on a 19" TV screen (b/w may I add) with a speaker the size of a fist, through rabbit ears and commercials every 15mins (if lucky). Yeah yeah, a "I walked to school in snow up hill" story, but a fact and why I have the perspective that I do today. I enjoyed these films through those conditions just as much as I did in the theater.
I don't excuse Lucas for not making the OT on DVD a techie's wet dream, but then again, as Snakes on a Plane proved, the opinion of the vocal people on the net doesn't represent a fraction of the overall market for movies.
Lucas isn't putting these out for the people that spend every waking moment disecting each frame, each sound bite, he is putting them out for those that want to check out the original versions of the film on DVD. These are going to be people that don't have a widescreen TV. They don't have a home theater system. And more than likely, if you mention "pan and scan" or "16x9" in the same sentence when talking about DVD's you will get that glassed over deer in the headlights look.
I come from THE generation that the first films were made for and I feel neither slighted nor robbed of my memories by Lucas' restorations/additions.
Through the majority of my childhood/teens I watched these films on a 19" TV screen (b/w may I add) with a speaker the size of a fist, through rabbit ears and commercials every 15mins (if lucky). Yeah yeah, a "I walked to school in snow up hill" story, but a fact and why I have the perspective that I do today. I enjoyed these films through those conditions just as much as I did in the theater.
I don't excuse Lucas for not making the OT on DVD a techie's wet dream, but then again, as Snakes on a Plane proved, the opinion of the vocal people on the net doesn't represent a fraction of the overall market for movies.
Lucas isn't putting these out for the people that spend every waking moment disecting each frame, each sound bite, he is putting them out for those that want to check out the original versions of the film on DVD. These are going to be people that don't have a widescreen TV. They don't have a home theater system. And more than likely, if you mention "pan and scan" or "16x9" in the same sentence when talking about DVD's you will get that glassed over deer in the headlights look.
This isn't a site for those people. If you come to DVDActive to discuss these DVDs you should expect the 'techie' point of view, as that's pretty much what we're about. Of course these films aren't 'important' in the grand scheme of the universe, but if we all took that attitude none of us would bother to get out of bed in the morning. I'm sure Bill Hunt took a long hard look at himself after receiving your email...
LOL Chris, yeah, he problaby did. And you are right and totally agree with ya. Don't come here if you don't have at least a clue/appreciation for the technical aspects of DVD's. I fall kind of in the middle. I do have a home theater system (not HD), a big screen projection TV (not HD or widescreen). But I do have an appreciation for the medium and what it can offer.
Myself and others are just offering up the point of view that the majority of the buyers out there can care less this version is going to be rendered from a copy of a Laser Disk transfer, 2.0 sound and non-anamorphic widescreen. It is going to sell like hotcakes because the average fan out there just cares abou the movie itself, not all the bells and whistles.
Myself and others are just offering up the point of view that the majority of the buyers out there can care less this version is going to be rendered from a copy of a Laser Disk transfer, 2.0 sound and non-anamorphic widescreen. It is going to sell like hotcakes because the average fan out there just cares abou the movie itself, not all the bells and whistles.
LLcruize wrote: Myself and others are just offering up the point of view that the majority of the buyers out there can care less this version is going to be rendered from a copy of a Laser Disk transfer, 2.0 sound and non-anamorphic widescreen. It is going to sell like hotcakes because the average fan out there just cares abou the movie itself, not all the bells and whistles.
Going by that rationale the average buyer has no need to buy these in the first place since the average buyer has little to no interest in the original versions and is happy with the 2004 versions that 9 out of 10 people already own. Don't let anyone at Lucasfilm kid you, this release is aimed squarely at people who want the original versions, and the only reason the originals are packaged with the 2004 versions and considered as 'bonus material' is an entirely legal and monetary one. As someone who has wanted the original versions since I bought my very first DVD I'm happy they're at last being released, but majorly disappointed at the same time.
Going by that rationale the average buyer has no need to buy these in the first place since the average buyer has little to no interest in the original versions and is happy with the 2004 versions that 9 out of 10 people already own. Don't let anyone at Lucasfilm kid you, this release is aimed squarely at people who want the original versions, and the only reason the originals are packaged with the 2004 versions and considered as 'bonus material' is an entirely legal and monetary one. As someone who has wanted the original versions since I bought my very first DVD I'm happy they're at last being released, but majorly disappointed at the same time.
I think you are right Matt. And that is why I can get on the side of you and others who are pissed that Lucas Films is putting out an edition that they know isn't going to meet the standards of those calling for their release the most.
But on the other side I can understand that this was probably not a release that was totally planned. This looks to be something that was hatched quickly. We think of Lucas as having bottomless pockets, but he didn't get to where he is at without being smart on the business side. It makes a lot of sense to put these out now, in the fashion they are, to strike while the iron is hot. I don't think that is anything more or less than any other filmmaker/producer in Hollywood today wouldn't do.
The only way to make Lucas Films/20th Century Fox and other distributors understand that we are tired of releases like this that obviously don't meet the intended audiences specifications is not buy them. Personally, I will not be purchasing these new disks. I have the cleaned up originals on VHS from years back and they suit my needs just fine. I say everyone else that sees this as a massive injustice, let Lucas Film's know the only way they will ever hear it clearly; don't buy them.
But on the other side I can understand that this was probably not a release that was totally planned. This looks to be something that was hatched quickly. We think of Lucas as having bottomless pockets, but he didn't get to where he is at without being smart on the business side. It makes a lot of sense to put these out now, in the fashion they are, to strike while the iron is hot. I don't think that is anything more or less than any other filmmaker/producer in Hollywood today wouldn't do.
The only way to make Lucas Films/20th Century Fox and other distributors understand that we are tired of releases like this that obviously don't meet the intended audiences specifications is not buy them. Personally, I will not be purchasing these new disks. I have the cleaned up originals on VHS from years back and they suit my needs just fine. I say everyone else that sees this as a massive injustice, let Lucas Film's know the only way they will ever hear it clearly; don't buy them.
No one will ever read this post so far at the back, but I'd just like to say, thank you to Lucas for FINALLY giving in and delivering what the fans have been asking for for 10 years now!!
I'm only buying them for three reasons, nostalgia and reference. For those purposes, I could just be happy with the VHS but my VHS player will not last forever. I certainly ain't buying a new one when it finally gives up the ghost and that is my third reason for buying this set.
I did transfer Star Wars onto My HDD recorder with a view to making a DVD of it. The picture quality was watchable but that was about it. C**p by today's standards so I'm glad this release is happening (as opposed to it not) so that I don't have to arse around transferring the other 2 films and have them spread over 6 discs just to keep the quality up.
There is something about the c**ppy VHS image and stereo sound that takes you back to your youth in a way that the 2004 versions don't. I remember getting the PAL Special Editions on Laser Disc and then shortly after, just out of interest, digging out the old letterboxed VHS's. Although I don't loath the Special Editions (just the obvious parts of them) my first reaction to the tinny Fox fanfare and the main titles were, 'Now that's Star Wars'.
As disappointing as this new 'old' release is, it will do.
It's called Star Wars: Or how I learned to stop worrying and accept (not love, steady now) the Special Editions.
I did transfer Star Wars onto My HDD recorder with a view to making a DVD of it. The picture quality was watchable but that was about it. C**p by today's standards so I'm glad this release is happening (as opposed to it not) so that I don't have to arse around transferring the other 2 films and have them spread over 6 discs just to keep the quality up.
There is something about the c**ppy VHS image and stereo sound that takes you back to your youth in a way that the 2004 versions don't. I remember getting the PAL Special Editions on Laser Disc and then shortly after, just out of interest, digging out the old letterboxed VHS's. Although I don't loath the Special Editions (just the obvious parts of them) my first reaction to the tinny Fox fanfare and the main titles were, 'Now that's Star Wars'.
As disappointing as this new 'old' release is, it will do.
It's called Star Wars: Or how I learned to stop worrying and accept (not love, steady now) the Special Editions.
It might be just easier to sit back, relax and wait for Chris's review....
All I want is an original release cleaned up and left how the maker originally wanted it.....
All I want is an original release cleaned up and left how the maker originally wanted it.....
This set is a waste of time. Two special features for each movie. There are rumors of a six movie box set re-release in Nov of 2007
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I bet you a lot of people who don't have widescreen televisions hear about this, they are going to buy it as long as it's in the proper aspect ratio. Sheesh... the holy grail of DVD has finally emerged unaltered and all you SW fans do is whine and b***h.