Is it odd that I liked both the original and "Overnight"? Looking forward to seeing this on video - had no time to see it in theaters.

Wow, that`s quick. hasn`t even been released in theaters over here...

pitdeadite wrote: I absolutely loved the movie, almost as much as the original. Most of the online community knows of Troy Duffy's previous behavior and have seen the documentary "Overnight". So what if the guy 'was' an a**hole? That doesn't take away quality from the film itself. Not to mention, it's been a decade since the first movie was released and people are allowed to change. I'm sure Duffy has mellowed out a lot since then.

For f**ks sake... can anyone actually read posts and discern obvious statements from them? I specifically said that his being an asshole in and of itself is not only irrelevant, but is to be expected considering his background. My problem and point is that he couldn't curb his douchitude for the purpose of getting his movie made. As a result, he has only two films to his name: Boondock Saints I and II.  Apparently James Cameron is a tremendous dick... but he still makes huge and respected movies.

pitdeadite wrote: I find it hilarious that people actually judge others about what they consider a good movie. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and understanding that, is what makes a person levelheaded. Which is something the above poster, has yet to realize.

I don't know what "judge others about what they consider a good movie" really means... but I'm assuming you meant that no one should judge the character of a person based on what kind of movies they enjoy.

This is 2010, and pop culture has permeated everyday life to such a deep and personal extent that not only do movies, music, games and all forms of entertainment influence us in the most literal sense possible (my go-to expression for 'Goodbye' has been 'Be Seeing You' since I was exposed to The Prisoner a few years back), but they define us as individuals. If I meet a nice lady at an exhibition, and she says she's a huge 'Creed' fan, am i going to punch her square in the jaw? No. (Maybe). But that statement is and should help shape my impression of her.

There are a million other more important attributes that contribute to a relationship than taste in movies. But given we're on a a site called DVDActive, I'd say it's a top factor we have to go on.

That, and the passive agressive form in which you referred to me as "the above poster".

Since no one seems to be able to actually describe what about the movie that they find so appealing, and I hate being that one 'hater' who comments on movies he/she has no interest in seeing, I'm going to go ahead and bow out of this thread.

Be Seeing You.

Jersey Jedi wrote: Beckmen, I think your issues have been percolating in your head for too long.

First off, I did not say a single thing derivative of the fans of the movie. I'm sure all of you are normally very levelheaded people, who only on occasion say things like

pitdeadite wrote: Great sequel and one of the best movies of 2009.
and
code horizon wrote: Time to order the whoop-ass fajitas!

I honestly just don't get how anyone can consider the first one (because I haven't been subjected to the second yet) as much of a classic as its fans seem to. If anyone could just explain it in literal terms to me, maybe I'll gain some understanding. But as it stands, all I see is a pretty derivative and unoriginal action flick that has a raging fanbase seemingly because it tanked in its very limited theatrical run. Even this one, which now has a significant number of followers, was barely in theaters at all... which I'm guessing is because Sony knew that it's easier to love something that you perceive as "unknown" or "cultish" than something that is widely received.

And as for the Overnight character defamation claims, I would normally say that you have a point: The guys was specifically picked up by Harvey W. because he was an angry, intense drunk. So coming off as one should be expected. However, the reason that the film exists at all is because of his measured fall from grace. Weinstein bought the script to Boondock Saints for 300K, agreed to a 15 Million dollar budget (which is huge considering the average Miramax budgets at the time), get his band a record deal and even planned to buy out the bar he worked at. He had a f**king golden ticket. Yet because of his inflated ego (having done nothing of worth yet other than writing the unproduced screenplay) and abrasive behavior, he lost everything. He had to make the flick for 1/3 the budget, was provided essentially no promotional backing for the theatrical release and because of the conditions of his new contract, he lost out on any residuals from home distribution. So even if Duffy isn't as much of an utter douche as Overnight made him out to be, he still was too much of a dumb dog to realize he shouldn't bite the hand that feeds him.

And considering his varied and impressive work to date, I'd say Overnight has some merit.


 I absolutely loved the movie, almost as much as the original. Most of the online community knows of Troy Duffy's previous behavior and have seen the documentary "Overnight". So what if the guy 'was' an a**hole? That doesn't take away quality from the film itself. Not to mention, it's been a decade since the first movie was released and people are allowed to change. I'm sure Duffy has mellowed out a lot since then. I find it hilarious that people actually judge others about what they consider a good movie. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and understanding that, is what makes a person levelheaded. Which is something the above poster, has yet to realize.

Beckmen, I think your issues have been percolating in your head for too long.

First off, I did not say a single thing derivative of the fans of the movie. I'm sure all of you are normally very levelheaded people, who only on occasion say things like

pitdeadite wrote: Great sequel and one of the best movies of 2009.
and
code horizon wrote: Time to order the whoop-ass fajitas!

I honestly just don't get how anyone can consider the first one (because I haven't been subjected to the second yet) as much of a classic as its fans seem to. If anyone could just explain it in literal terms to me, maybe I'll gain some understanding. But as it stands, all I see is a pretty derivative and unoriginal action flick that has a raging fanbase seemingly because it tanked in its very limited theatrical run. Even this one, which now has a significant number of followers, was barely in theaters at all... which I'm guessing is because Sony knew that it's easier to love something that you perceive as "unknown" or "cultish" than something that is widely received.

And as for the Overnight character defamation claims, I would normally say that you have a point: The guys was specifically picked up by Harvey W. because he was an angry, intense drunk. So coming off as one should be expected. However, the reason that the film exists at all is because of his measured fall from grace. Weinstein bought the script to Boondock Saints for 300K, agreed to a 15 Million dollar budget (which is huge considering the average Miramax budgets at the time), get his band a record deal and even planned to buy out the bar he worked at. He had a f**king golden ticket. Yet because of his inflated ego (having done nothing of worth yet other than writing the unproduced screenplay) and abrasive behavior, he lost everything. He had to make the flick for 1/3 the budget, was provided essentially no promotional backing for the theatrical release and because of the conditions of his new contract, he lost out on any residuals from home distribution. So even if Duffy isn't as much of an utter douche as Overnight made him out to be, he still was too much of a dumb dog to realize he shouldn't bite the hand that feeds him.

And considering his varied and impressive work to date, I'd say Overnight has some merit.

This is great news. awesome movie the critics don't know what they are talking about

Glad to see Ain't It Cool News has a positive review. That makes one!

I don't get the hate for the first movie. Loved it when it came out, and loved it the other week when I revisited it on Blu-ray. Looking forward to giving this one a rent.

 Great sequel and one of the best movies of 2009.

I agree with Kyle, except I grew sick of it after the first viewing of it. A action movie for people that aren't fans of action movies. Besides Duffy is the biggest a hole in the business and deserves failure.

Wasnt a fan of the first one. This one for some reason was fun...

The first one wasn't that good, so maybe I'll pass on this one. I'm not in the mood for any movies right now. Would want to see an announcement for "The Men Who Stare at Goats."

unfortunately missed this one in theaters. First day buy for me

I liked the first one (as a guilty pleasure) but this one was just plain bad. It was one of the worst of 2009.