The Dark Knight Rises (US - DVD R1 | BD)
Warner Home Video reveals details on the DVD and Blu-ray releases
Title: The Dark Knight Rises (IMDb)
Starring: Christian Bale
Released: 4th December 2012
SRP: $28.98 (DVD)
Further Details:
Warner Home Video has announced DVD ($28.98) and Blu-ray/DVD Combo ($35.99) releases of The Dark Knight Rises for December 4th. The only extra material on the DVD release will be a "Journey of Bruce Wayne" behind the scenes featurette. The Blu-ray/DVD Combo release will also include a Batmobile documentary, a multi-part Ending the Night feature ("The Prologue: High Altitude Hijacking", "Beneath Gotham", "Return to the Batcave", "Batman vs Bane", "The Bat", "Armory Accepted", "Gameday Destruction", "Demolishing a City Street", "The Pit", "The Chant", "The War on Wall Street", "Race to the Reactor", "The Journey of Bruce Wayne", "Gotham's Reckoning", "A Girl's Gotta Eat", "Shadows & Light in Large Format", "The End of A Legend"), trailers, an art gallery, and an UltraViolet digital copy of the film. Also available from December 4th will be DVD ($38.99) and Blu-ray ($52.99) Limited Edition releases of The Dark Knight Trilogy, although an Ultimate Collector's Edition is promised in 2013.





Quote: It has been eight years since Batman vanished into the night, turning, in that instant, from hero to fugitive. Assuming the blame for the death of D.A. Harvey Dent, the Dark Knight sacrificed everything for what he and Commissioner Gordon both hoped was the greater good. For a time the lie worked, as criminal activity in Gotham City was crushed under the weight of the anti-crime Dent Act. But everything will change with the arrival of a cunning cat burglar with a mysterious agenda. Far more dangerous, however, is the emergence of Bane, a masked terrorist whose ruthless plans for Gotham drive Bruce out of his self-imposed exile. But even if he dons the cape and cowl again, Batman may be no match for Bane.
News by Tom Woodward
Starring: Christian Bale
Released: 4th December 2012
SRP: $28.98 (DVD)
Further Details:
Warner Home Video has announced DVD ($28.98) and Blu-ray/DVD Combo ($35.99) releases of The Dark Knight Rises for December 4th. The only extra material on the DVD release will be a "Journey of Bruce Wayne" behind the scenes featurette. The Blu-ray/DVD Combo release will also include a Batmobile documentary, a multi-part Ending the Night feature ("The Prologue: High Altitude Hijacking", "Beneath Gotham", "Return to the Batcave", "Batman vs Bane", "The Bat", "Armory Accepted", "Gameday Destruction", "Demolishing a City Street", "The Pit", "The Chant", "The War on Wall Street", "Race to the Reactor", "The Journey of Bruce Wayne", "Gotham's Reckoning", "A Girl's Gotta Eat", "Shadows & Light in Large Format", "The End of A Legend"), trailers, an art gallery, and an UltraViolet digital copy of the film. Also available from December 4th will be DVD ($38.99) and Blu-ray ($52.99) Limited Edition releases of The Dark Knight Trilogy, although an Ultimate Collector's Edition is promised in 2013.





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Quote: It has been eight years since Batman vanished into the night, turning, in that instant, from hero to fugitive. Assuming the blame for the death of D.A. Harvey Dent, the Dark Knight sacrificed everything for what he and Commissioner Gordon both hoped was the greater good. For a time the lie worked, as criminal activity in Gotham City was crushed under the weight of the anti-crime Dent Act. But everything will change with the arrival of a cunning cat burglar with a mysterious agenda. Far more dangerous, however, is the emergence of Bane, a masked terrorist whose ruthless plans for Gotham drive Bruce out of his self-imposed exile. But even if he dons the cape and cowl again, Batman may be no match for Bane.
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I won't deny that Tom Hardy did a great job as Bane, but why not hire a bigger, bulkier actor/stuntman? I would have gone with Nate Jones. He's 6'10", bald, Australian, fought Tony Jaa, Jet Li, Jackie Chan, and Brad Pitt, and he used to be in the WWF (now WWE). He's more than capable of stunt work and choreographed fighting.
I'm only saying this because comic book Bane is basically the Incredible Hulk. Obviously with Nolan's realism that can't happen, but Tom Hardy's Bane wasn't much bigger or stronger than Bale's Batman, yet he single handedly breaks his back. Didn't quite make sense to me.
I'm only saying this because comic book Bane is basically the Incredible Hulk. Obviously with Nolan's realism that can't happen, but Tom Hardy's Bane wasn't much bigger or stronger than Bale's Batman, yet he single handedly breaks his back. Didn't quite make sense to me.
I am just going to wait for the 2013 Ultimate Collector's Edition.
I just buy the movie of Direct Tv to see it because I never saw it in theaters .
And the extras on the blu ray are very very week at best .I hope they have some kind of memorial for all the victims you died in Colorado on the Ultimate Edition or something
Well bad new here the new info for when the Ultimate Edition come out next fall yep that right no spring or summer next fall .WOW that sucks
Calling all ‘Dark Knight‘ fans: start saving your money and circle your calendars now. In the fall of next year, Warner Bros. will release ‘The Dark Knight Trilogy: Ultimate Collector’s Edition’ DVD and Blu-ray box set.
Details on the ‘Dark Knight Trilogy’ box set are scant at this point but as part of a press release celebrating their 90th year, Warner Bros. announced a Q3 date for the ‘Ultimate Collector’s Edition.’ We can assume this will include ‘Batman Begins,’ ‘The Dark Knight’ and ‘The Dark Knight Rises‘ but what else?
Hopefully there will be a bonus disc of new, never-before-seen features because, otherwise, what’s the point? We’d also speculate that there will be some nice, fancy packaging as ‘Ultimate Collector’s Editions’ often do. What you likely won’t see are any Director’s Cut as Christopher Nolan has ruled that out in the past.
What would you like to see included on the ‘Dark Knight Trilogy: Ultimate Collector’s Edition’ box set? A gag reel? The original Bane audio?
I just buy the movie of Direct Tv to see it because I never saw it in theaters .
And the extras on the blu ray are very very week at best .I hope they have some kind of memorial for all the victims you died in Colorado on the Ultimate Edition or something
Well bad new here the new info for when the Ultimate Edition come out next fall yep that right no spring or summer next fall .WOW that sucks
Calling all ‘Dark Knight‘ fans: start saving your money and circle your calendars now. In the fall of next year, Warner Bros. will release ‘The Dark Knight Trilogy: Ultimate Collector’s Edition’ DVD and Blu-ray box set.
Details on the ‘Dark Knight Trilogy’ box set are scant at this point but as part of a press release celebrating their 90th year, Warner Bros. announced a Q3 date for the ‘Ultimate Collector’s Edition.’ We can assume this will include ‘Batman Begins,’ ‘The Dark Knight’ and ‘The Dark Knight Rises‘ but what else?
Hopefully there will be a bonus disc of new, never-before-seen features because, otherwise, what’s the point? We’d also speculate that there will be some nice, fancy packaging as ‘Ultimate Collector’s Editions’ often do. What you likely won’t see are any Director’s Cut as Christopher Nolan has ruled that out in the past.
What would you like to see included on the ‘Dark Knight Trilogy: Ultimate Collector’s Edition’ box set? A gag reel? The original Bane audio?
Saw this six times in theaters, a new experience each time with the different sets of individuals I went with. Fantastic end to a stellar trilogy. Best Buy exclusive steelbook blu-ray is mine on release day. The collector's edition trilogy is my most wanted item next year.
mlcm wrote: BIGPotterFan wrote: Exactly. It's not nitpicking when the gaps in logic pull you out of the movie. All the little logical fallacies pile on by the end of the film, and after a point you stop taking it seriously. From the opening prologue sequence to the very end of the film, the movie just didn't make sense in various different points. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were very consistent in being somewhat grounded in reality, while Rises breaks this consistency and becomes cheesy to the point that it'd rival "The Amazing Spider-Man". I am shocked when I read people saying that this was "the best film of the year" or something silly like that. Go see the film again, and take those fanboy shades off. I am a HUGE Nolan fan but I am not blind enough to see that this was arguably his weakest film to date.
If all had gone well with Rises, it could have been the greatest trilogy of our time, but Nolan simply blew it...
Just because something is his weakest film doesn't make the film terrible. I agree, I think TDKR is Nolan's worst film, second only to Insomnia. However, I still don't think TDKR is a complete failure, but neither do I think it's a complete success. This desire for films to be one or the other speaks to the economics of the film industry which cascades into a critical approach of false dichotomy. Why can't TDKR be an entertaining film with flaws that manages to successfully sum up many of the themes introduced in the two previous Nolan Batfilms? Why does it have to be either "the best film of the year" or the worst film of Nolan's career? Where is the reasonable middle ground?
I think Gabe's review of Prometheus does a lot of this critical work for me, so that I can demonstrate an example of excellent criticism that dispenses with the histrionics that most people seem to engage in.
TDKR isn't the best film of the year, nor is it the worst. And neither is it (on its own) a complete success or a complete failure. Rather, it's an interesting misstep that still manages to satisfy the thematic interests of the rest of the trilogy.
Plus, Bane is utterly hypnotic!
Yes I agree with you, and not this film is far from terrible. But I'm a huge Nolan and Batman fan, and I was utterly disappointed with this film. It was just shocking to see such an intelligent director make such a flawed film, not that he was never gonna slip, I just didn't want him to make his first slip with the last Batman film.
If all had gone well with Rises, it could have been the greatest trilogy of our time, but Nolan simply blew it...
Just because something is his weakest film doesn't make the film terrible. I agree, I think TDKR is Nolan's worst film, second only to Insomnia. However, I still don't think TDKR is a complete failure, but neither do I think it's a complete success. This desire for films to be one or the other speaks to the economics of the film industry which cascades into a critical approach of false dichotomy. Why can't TDKR be an entertaining film with flaws that manages to successfully sum up many of the themes introduced in the two previous Nolan Batfilms? Why does it have to be either "the best film of the year" or the worst film of Nolan's career? Where is the reasonable middle ground?
I think Gabe's review of Prometheus does a lot of this critical work for me, so that I can demonstrate an example of excellent criticism that dispenses with the histrionics that most people seem to engage in.
TDKR isn't the best film of the year, nor is it the worst. And neither is it (on its own) a complete success or a complete failure. Rather, it's an interesting misstep that still manages to satisfy the thematic interests of the rest of the trilogy.
Plus, Bane is utterly hypnotic!
Yes I agree with you, and not this film is far from terrible. But I'm a huge Nolan and Batman fan, and I was utterly disappointed with this film. It was just shocking to see such an intelligent director make such a flawed film, not that he was never gonna slip, I just didn't want him to make his first slip with the last Batman film.
mlcm wrote: There's a website that catalogues movie plotholes? If that isn't one of the saddest most misguided things I've ever learned about the Internet and film.... I seriously can't think of anything more detrimental to film discourse than a website that organizes itself around plot holes.
Not that I knew or care about that site either, but given that plot holes are (technically speaking) screenwriting failures and movies can be brilliant despite their plot holes and certainly not because of them, I don't think that cataloguing movie plot holes is inherently "detrimental"...
Just 2 cents.
Not that I knew or care about that site either, but given that plot holes are (technically speaking) screenwriting failures and movies can be brilliant despite their plot holes and certainly not because of them, I don't think that cataloguing movie plot holes is inherently "detrimental"...
Just 2 cents.
There's a website that catalogues movie plotholes? If that isn't one of the saddest most misguided things I've ever learned about the Internet and film.... I seriously can't think of anything more detrimental to film discourse than a website that organizes itself around plot holes.
tdude418 wrote: ..."Hey guys. I'm Bane. I just blew up your football stadium, killed your mayor, blew up all of your bridges, trapped all of your cops in the sewers (because your police department thought it best to put EVERY cop except John Blake down there) and now I'm holding you hostage with a nuclear bomb. So let me read you a speech from Commissioner Gordon that reveals his deception. And all of you have every reason to trust me that he actually wrote this. Know why? Because Jim Gordon carries this speech with him everywhere and I picked it off of him when he came to investigate a crime in the sewers. So just trust me, okay. Now, it is time to liberate your city and give it back to you citizens, including these angry, violent criminals I'm about to release. Liberation! And don't count on Batman to save you. I stole all of his money, broke his back, put him in a dark prison in a completely different hemisphere, and there's no way he's making it back. Oh wait, what, he's back? His back is fixed despite no professional medical care and he got here with absolutely no money whatsoever?!?!"
LOL...! That strikes me as the kind of issue typical of 007 movies. Which once again proves my opinion that Nolan took the third Batman (just as he did with the last third of Inception) as an excuse to make the Bond flick he's never been able to make...
Nolan's direction in Insomnia was terrific; he should seriously consider picking up a good spec script for his next "project" instead of keeping doing more of the same...
LOL...! That strikes me as the kind of issue typical of 007 movies. Which once again proves my opinion that Nolan took the third Batman (just as he did with the last third of Inception) as an excuse to make the Bond flick he's never been able to make...
Nolan's direction in Insomnia was terrific; he should seriously consider picking up a good spec script for his next "project" instead of keeping doing more of the same...
I gotta say. The cinematography (mostly thanks to the IMAX cameras) was absolutely spectacular. And the action sequences were wonderfully filmed and planned. And I will buy it on blu-ray.
But I gotta say, this movie had just about as many plot holes as "Inception." Starting with the whole, "Hey guys. I'm Bane. I just blew up your football stadium, killed your mayor, blew up all of your bridges, trapped all of your cops in the sewers (because your police department thought it best to put EVERY cop except John Blake down there) and now I'm holding you hostage with a nuclear bomb. So let me read you a speech from Commissioner Gordon that reveals his deception. And all of you have every reason to trust me that he actually wrote this. Know why? Because Jim Gordon carries this speech with him everywhere and I picked it off of him when he came to investigate a crime in the sewers. So just trust me, okay. Now, it is time to liberate your city and give it back to you citizens, including these angry, violent criminals I'm about to release. Liberation! And don't count on Batman to save you. I stole all of his money, broke his back, put him in a dark prison in a completely different hemisphere, and there's no way he's making it back. Oh wait, what, he's back? His back is fixed despite no professional medical care and he got here with absolutely no money whatsoever?!?!"
Movieplotholes.com has a very, very long article about all the plot holes in this movie. On the other handThe ones for "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight" are very short
But I gotta say, this movie had just about as many plot holes as "Inception." Starting with the whole, "Hey guys. I'm Bane. I just blew up your football stadium, killed your mayor, blew up all of your bridges, trapped all of your cops in the sewers (because your police department thought it best to put EVERY cop except John Blake down there) and now I'm holding you hostage with a nuclear bomb. So let me read you a speech from Commissioner Gordon that reveals his deception. And all of you have every reason to trust me that he actually wrote this. Know why? Because Jim Gordon carries this speech with him everywhere and I picked it off of him when he came to investigate a crime in the sewers. So just trust me, okay. Now, it is time to liberate your city and give it back to you citizens, including these angry, violent criminals I'm about to release. Liberation! And don't count on Batman to save you. I stole all of his money, broke his back, put him in a dark prison in a completely different hemisphere, and there's no way he's making it back. Oh wait, what, he's back? His back is fixed despite no professional medical care and he got here with absolutely no money whatsoever?!?!"
Movieplotholes.com has a very, very long article about all the plot holes in this movie. On the other handThe ones for "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight" are very short
jeffdmia wrote: hey, Warner Brothers......i HATE UltraViolet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want my I-Tunes digital copy file!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
F**k i-Tunes. Those of us who don't suck on Apple's teat are quite happy with UV, which is a more flexible system.
F**k i-Tunes. Those of us who don't suck on Apple's teat are quite happy with UV, which is a more flexible system.
BIGPotterFan wrote: Exactly. It's not nitpicking when the gaps in logic pull you out of the movie. All the little logical fallacies pile on by the end of the film, and after a point you stop taking it seriously. From the opening prologue sequence to the very end of the film, the movie just didn't make sense in various different points. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were very consistent in being somewhat grounded in reality, while Rises breaks this consistency and becomes cheesy to the point that it'd rival "The Amazing Spider-Man". I am shocked when I read people saying that this was "the best film of the year" or something silly like that. Go see the film again, and take those fanboy shades off. I am a HUGE Nolan fan but I am not blind enough to see that this was arguably his weakest film to date.
If all had gone well with Rises, it could have been the greatest trilogy of our time, but Nolan simply blew it...
Just because something is his weakest film doesn't make the film terrible. I agree, I think TDKR is Nolan's worst film, second only to Insomnia. However, I still don't think TDKR is a complete failure, but neither do I think it's a complete success. This desire for films to be one or the other speaks to the economics of the film industry which cascades into a critical approach of false dichotomy. Why can't TDKR be an entertaining film with flaws that manages to successfully sum up many of the themes introduced in the two previous Nolan Batfilms? Why does it have to be either "the best film of the year" or the worst film of Nolan's career? Where is the reasonable middle ground?
I think Gabe's review of Prometheus does a lot of this critical work for me, so that I can demonstrate an example of excellent criticism that dispenses with the histrionics that most people seem to engage in.
TDKR isn't the best film of the year, nor is it the worst. And neither is it (on its own) a complete success or a complete failure. Rather, it's an interesting misstep that still manages to satisfy the thematic interests of the rest of the trilogy.
Plus, Bane is utterly hypnotic!
If all had gone well with Rises, it could have been the greatest trilogy of our time, but Nolan simply blew it...
Just because something is his weakest film doesn't make the film terrible. I agree, I think TDKR is Nolan's worst film, second only to Insomnia. However, I still don't think TDKR is a complete failure, but neither do I think it's a complete success. This desire for films to be one or the other speaks to the economics of the film industry which cascades into a critical approach of false dichotomy. Why can't TDKR be an entertaining film with flaws that manages to successfully sum up many of the themes introduced in the two previous Nolan Batfilms? Why does it have to be either "the best film of the year" or the worst film of Nolan's career? Where is the reasonable middle ground?
I think Gabe's review of Prometheus does a lot of this critical work for me, so that I can demonstrate an example of excellent criticism that dispenses with the histrionics that most people seem to engage in.
TDKR isn't the best film of the year, nor is it the worst. And neither is it (on its own) a complete success or a complete failure. Rather, it's an interesting misstep that still manages to satisfy the thematic interests of the rest of the trilogy.
Plus, Bane is utterly hypnotic!
I'll only get it if BB has another exclusive steelbook.
jeffdmia wrote: hey, Warner Brothers......i HATE UltraViolet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want my I-Tunes digital copy file!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then buy a digital copy from iTunes. Pretty simple fix.
BTW, this isn't the Warner Bros website so I doubt your 12 year old rant will be heard by anyone at Warner Bros.
Then buy a digital copy from iTunes. Pretty simple fix.
BTW, this isn't the Warner Bros website so I doubt your 12 year old rant will be heard by anyone at Warner Bros.
pitdeadite wrote: mlcm wrote: Do you think "massive gaps in logic" are the most pressing issue with a film? I'm not singling you out, but there is a rather curious mode of (genre) criticism that focuses exclusively on "logic" - what some would negatively characterize as "nit-picking". I'm interested in figuring out why gaps in logic are such deal-breakers for people. Not to minimize your criticisms, but gaps in logic isn't the most important element of a movie by far. I admit that films should be internally consistent, but the logic problems offered by detractors of TDKR isn't really convincing me that the film is terrible.
A more reasoned and easily demonstrated criticism would be the film's atrocious exposition-laden dialogue, eg. "The clean slate program? You mean the thing that magically does this and that for the fulfillment of character motivation?"
Well as I stated before, I also had major problems with the choreography and the editing. Nolan seems like a director that doesn't want to cut anything out, so the audience is forced to watch parts that should have been delegated to the deleted scenes section on the DVD. As for the "gaps in logic", when you watch a movie, sometimes you will come across a scene/detail/character that rubs you the wrong way. So you tell yourself that it's only a movie and you move on so that you can enjoy the rest of the film. But when more and more of those start to pop up, you continue to question the logic of the filmmakers and it literally takes you out of said movie. It has the same power as someone in the theater opening up their cellphone and you have no choice but to be drawn to that white glare. In both cases, your attention is being taken away from enjoying the film. To me, this film is packed wall to wall with those moments.
Exactly. It's not nitpicking when the gaps in logic pull you out of the movie. All the little logical fallacies pile on by the end of the film, and after a point you stop taking it seriously. From the opening prologue sequence to the very end of the film, the movie just didn't make sense in various different points. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were very consistent in being somewhat grounded in reality, while Rises breaks this consistency and becomes cheesy to the point that it'd rival "The Amazing Spider-Man". I am shocked when I read people saying that this was "the best film of the year" or something silly like that. Go see the film again, and take those fanboy shades off. I am a HUGE Nolan fan but I am not blind enough to see that this was arguably his weakest film to date.
If all had gone well with Rises, it could have been the greatest trilogy of our time, but Nolan simply blew it...
A more reasoned and easily demonstrated criticism would be the film's atrocious exposition-laden dialogue, eg. "The clean slate program? You mean the thing that magically does this and that for the fulfillment of character motivation?"
Well as I stated before, I also had major problems with the choreography and the editing. Nolan seems like a director that doesn't want to cut anything out, so the audience is forced to watch parts that should have been delegated to the deleted scenes section on the DVD. As for the "gaps in logic", when you watch a movie, sometimes you will come across a scene/detail/character that rubs you the wrong way. So you tell yourself that it's only a movie and you move on so that you can enjoy the rest of the film. But when more and more of those start to pop up, you continue to question the logic of the filmmakers and it literally takes you out of said movie. It has the same power as someone in the theater opening up their cellphone and you have no choice but to be drawn to that white glare. In both cases, your attention is being taken away from enjoying the film. To me, this film is packed wall to wall with those moments.
Exactly. It's not nitpicking when the gaps in logic pull you out of the movie. All the little logical fallacies pile on by the end of the film, and after a point you stop taking it seriously. From the opening prologue sequence to the very end of the film, the movie just didn't make sense in various different points. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were very consistent in being somewhat grounded in reality, while Rises breaks this consistency and becomes cheesy to the point that it'd rival "The Amazing Spider-Man". I am shocked when I read people saying that this was "the best film of the year" or something silly like that. Go see the film again, and take those fanboy shades off. I am a HUGE Nolan fan but I am not blind enough to see that this was arguably his weakest film to date.
If all had gone well with Rises, it could have been the greatest trilogy of our time, but Nolan simply blew it...
mlcm wrote: Do you think "massive gaps in logic" are the most pressing issue with a film? I'm not singling you out, but there is a rather curious mode of (genre) criticism that focuses exclusively on "logic" - what some would negatively characterize as "nit-picking". I'm interested in figuring out why gaps in logic are such deal-breakers for people. Not to minimize your criticisms, but gaps in logic isn't the most important element of a movie by far. I admit that films should be internally consistent, but the logic problems offered by detractors of TDKR isn't really convincing me that the film is terrible.
A more reasoned and easily demonstrated criticism would be the film's atrocious exposition-laden dialogue, eg. "The clean slate program? You mean the thing that magically does this and that for the fulfillment of character motivation?"
Well as I stated before, I also had major problems with the choreography and the editing. Nolan seems like a director that doesn't want to cut anything out, so the audience is forced to watch parts that should have been delegated to the deleted scenes section on the DVD. As for the "gaps in logic", when you watch a movie, sometimes you will come across a scene/detail/character that rubs you the wrong way. So you tell yourself that it's only a movie and you move on so that you can enjoy the rest of the film. But when more and more of those start to pop up, you continue to question the logic of the filmmakers and it literally takes you out of said movie. It has the same power as someone in the theater opening up their cellphone and you have no choice but to be drawn to that white glare. In both cases, your attention is being taken away from enjoying the film. To me, this film is packed wall to wall with those moments.
A more reasoned and easily demonstrated criticism would be the film's atrocious exposition-laden dialogue, eg. "The clean slate program? You mean the thing that magically does this and that for the fulfillment of character motivation?"
Well as I stated before, I also had major problems with the choreography and the editing. Nolan seems like a director that doesn't want to cut anything out, so the audience is forced to watch parts that should have been delegated to the deleted scenes section on the DVD. As for the "gaps in logic", when you watch a movie, sometimes you will come across a scene/detail/character that rubs you the wrong way. So you tell yourself that it's only a movie and you move on so that you can enjoy the rest of the film. But when more and more of those start to pop up, you continue to question the logic of the filmmakers and it literally takes you out of said movie. It has the same power as someone in the theater opening up their cellphone and you have no choice but to be drawn to that white glare. In both cases, your attention is being taken away from enjoying the film. To me, this film is packed wall to wall with those moments.
Do you think "massive gaps in logic" are the most pressing issue with a film? I'm not singling you out, but there is a rather curious mode of (genre) criticism that focuses exclusively on "logic" - what some would negatively characterize as "nit-picking". I'm interested in figuring out why gaps in logic are such deal-breakers for people. Not to minimize your criticisms, but gaps in logic isn't the most important element of a movie by far. I admit that films should be internally consistent, but the logic problems offered by detractors of TDKR isn't really convincing me that the film is terrible.
A more reasoned and easily demonstrated criticism would be the film's atrocious exposition-laden dialogue, eg. "The clean slate program? You mean the thing that magically does this and that for the fulfillment of character motivation?"
A more reasoned and easily demonstrated criticism would be the film's atrocious exposition-laden dialogue, eg. "The clean slate program? You mean the thing that magically does this and that for the fulfillment of character motivation?"
mlcm wrote: pitdeadite wrote:
Comparing bad movies doesn't really help your cause. My complaints were stated above and I don't believe that they were unreasonable. I could have elaborated on the 'massive gaps of logic', but I'm not trying to be here all day. Next time, I suggest leaving the assumptions at home and try to focus on what was actually stated.
Your initial premise was a comparison between other comic book movies and threequels.
I stated that there was a well known notion/curse of Hollywood dropping the ball once the third comic movie arrived. But I tried to stay as focused as I could, by mentioning why I thought the film failed to deliver. That is the area I would expect others to zero in on, to truly have a great discussion on the subject matter. Spouting off other movie titles doesn't really bring anything to the table to help refute the claims of others.
Comparing bad movies doesn't really help your cause. My complaints were stated above and I don't believe that they were unreasonable. I could have elaborated on the 'massive gaps of logic', but I'm not trying to be here all day. Next time, I suggest leaving the assumptions at home and try to focus on what was actually stated.
Your initial premise was a comparison between other comic book movies and threequels.
I stated that there was a well known notion/curse of Hollywood dropping the ball once the third comic movie arrived. But I tried to stay as focused as I could, by mentioning why I thought the film failed to deliver. That is the area I would expect others to zero in on, to truly have a great discussion on the subject matter. Spouting off other movie titles doesn't really bring anything to the table to help refute the claims of others.
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Best movie of the year by far. I can't wait to buy this and watch it again. Don't know if I would put it over TDK, but it gets as close to it as possible.
Da B-Meister wrote: As a major Batman fan, I very much enjoyed this movie. But come on already with the Ultraviolet....that stuff is C**P! Why does Nolan have to be a jerk and not include deleted footage that they'd already filmed (i.e. Bane's background).
I gues UV does suck HOWEVER don't use digital copies(unless I REALLY want it on my laptop) I send them to my brother.
As for the deleted scenes, I couldnt agree more. Thats what my prior post on here said, IF the second release coming in 2013 will include deleted scenes then I'm all there. He'd be really cool to include TDK deleted scenes as well or at least alternate Ledger takes.
I gues UV does suck HOWEVER don't use digital copies(unless I REALLY want it on my laptop) I send them to my brother.
As for the deleted scenes, I couldnt agree more. Thats what my prior post on here said, IF the second release coming in 2013 will include deleted scenes then I'm all there. He'd be really cool to include TDK deleted scenes as well or at least alternate Ledger takes.
All the DVD art sucks. Fantastic movie. Not my favorite of the three. A commentary track would be nice. Common Nolan, do it for the fans! One of the better films I have seen this year.
pitdeadite wrote:
Comparing bad movies doesn't really help your cause. My complaints were stated above and I don't believe that they were unreasonable. I could have elaborated on the 'massive gaps of logic', but I'm not trying to be here all day. Next time, I suggest leaving the assumptions at home and try to focus on what was actually stated.
Your initial premise was a comparison between other comic book movies and threequels.
Comparing bad movies doesn't really help your cause. My complaints were stated above and I don't believe that they were unreasonable. I could have elaborated on the 'massive gaps of logic', but I'm not trying to be here all day. Next time, I suggest leaving the assumptions at home and try to focus on what was actually stated.
Your initial premise was a comparison between other comic book movies and threequels.
As a major Batman fan, I very much enjoyed this movie. But come on already with the Ultraviolet....that stuff is C**P! Why does Nolan have to be a jerk and not include deleted footage that they'd already filmed (i.e. Bane's background).
mc_serenity wrote: pitdeadite wrote:
This movie upholds the tradition of horrendous comic book 'threequels'. It seems that even a talented filmmaker like Nolan is not immune to the curse that has long plagued Hollywood. This movie had it all in spades. Horrible fight choreography, atrocious editing, and massive gaps in logic.
Seems like you had astronomical expectations for this movie, and it didn't please you. Did you not even see Joel Schumacher's Batman movies and Pitof's c**ptacular "Catwoman"? Nowhere is it as bad as those movies. So bring your expectations down to earth next time, bud.
Comparing bad movies doesn't really help your cause. My complaints were stated above and I don't believe that they were unreasonable. I could have elaborated on the 'massive gaps of logic', but I'm not trying to be here all day. Next time, I suggest leaving the assumptions at home and try to focus on what was actually stated.
This movie upholds the tradition of horrendous comic book 'threequels'. It seems that even a talented filmmaker like Nolan is not immune to the curse that has long plagued Hollywood. This movie had it all in spades. Horrible fight choreography, atrocious editing, and massive gaps in logic.
Seems like you had astronomical expectations for this movie, and it didn't please you. Did you not even see Joel Schumacher's Batman movies and Pitof's c**ptacular "Catwoman"? Nowhere is it as bad as those movies. So bring your expectations down to earth next time, bud.
Comparing bad movies doesn't really help your cause. My complaints were stated above and I don't believe that they were unreasonable. I could have elaborated on the 'massive gaps of logic', but I'm not trying to be here all day. Next time, I suggest leaving the assumptions at home and try to focus on what was actually stated.
hey, Warner Brothers......i HATE UltraViolet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want my I-Tunes digital copy file!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Loved this movie and bane was finally a physically imposing villain. I'll admit he wasnt as memorable as the joker but for the first time I felt scared for batman. That fight scene was epic and its rare that you see a superhero film this unpredictable and actually sad. I won't lie and say I didn't get a few tears near the end of this film. An excellent ending to Nolan's batman films. As for the bluray releases and 2nd releases down the road? That won't stop me from getting this release. I mean unless he puts deleted scenes on the second release I am fine with what will be offered and also FYE lets you trade in movies. These are all strong reasons not to hold off for a future release, that's if its even coming at all.
On what planet was this "Brilliant and Masterful Filmmaking"??? It didn't even make sense!!! I was watching this and was thinking, WTH Nolan made this movie, its so stupid! The first two were so good, and Nolan is such an amazing filmmaker but he just blew it with this movie.
Cinque wrote: ...And how come you guys haven't reviewed The Avengers yet?? Boy, DVDActive has really been slipping lately...
And just to let you know the behind the scenes here, I tried very, very hard to get a review copy. I didn't 'slip' at all. When we weren't selected to get an advanced copy and no reason was given (I've made big efforts to remain on good terms with the companies that send out both Disney and Paramount releases over the years, I was told it was specifically Marvel's choice) I was frustrated and decided not to review the copy I'd purchased for myself.
I also want to note that review copies have been arriving at my home later recently, which isn't helping me get this stuff out in a timely manner. I don't think this is anyone's fault, I think it's just the way things are. Some sites have the advantage of being supported by retailers so they get their stuff a bit quicker. We don't.
The best thing you can do to help us in terms of the review copies we get is help us get our counts up. I'll keep doing my best to talk the PR companies into sending us stuff.
And just to let you know the behind the scenes here, I tried very, very hard to get a review copy. I didn't 'slip' at all. When we weren't selected to get an advanced copy and no reason was given (I've made big efforts to remain on good terms with the companies that send out both Disney and Paramount releases over the years, I was told it was specifically Marvel's choice) I was frustrated and decided not to review the copy I'd purchased for myself.
I also want to note that review copies have been arriving at my home later recently, which isn't helping me get this stuff out in a timely manner. I don't think this is anyone's fault, I think it's just the way things are. Some sites have the advantage of being supported by retailers so they get their stuff a bit quicker. We don't.
The best thing you can do to help us in terms of the review copies we get is help us get our counts up. I'll keep doing my best to talk the PR companies into sending us stuff.
I loved this, best of the three in my opinion. Can't wait to get the Blu.
pitdeadite wrote:
This movie upholds the tradition of horrendous comic book 'threequels'. It seems that even a talented filmmaker like Nolan is not immune to the curse that has long plagued Hollywood. This movie had it all in spades. Horrible fight choreography, atrocious editing, and massive gaps in logic.
Seems like you had astronomical expectations for this movie, and it didn't please you. Did you not even see Joel Schumacher's Batman movies and Pitof's c**ptacular "Catwoman"? Nowhere is it as bad as those movies. So bring your expectations down to earth next time, bud.
This movie upholds the tradition of horrendous comic book 'threequels'. It seems that even a talented filmmaker like Nolan is not immune to the curse that has long plagued Hollywood. This movie had it all in spades. Horrible fight choreography, atrocious editing, and massive gaps in logic.
Seems like you had astronomical expectations for this movie, and it didn't please you. Did you not even see Joel Schumacher's Batman movies and Pitof's c**ptacular "Catwoman"? Nowhere is it as bad as those movies. So bring your expectations down to earth next time, bud.
I'm waiting for the trilogy set, I just hope they change that awfully boring artwork they have right now...
I like Nolan's work - mostly Insomnia - but thought this one was an inferior remake of the second movie. Plus, just like on Inception, he went overboard with the 007 imagery...Mike and Barb, hire the guy ASAP...

I don't mind the blu-ray art but I know I'll probably be getting the steelbook version with different art.
I still love the movie and can't wait to see it again. The ending was perfectly fine to me.
I still love the movie and can't wait to see it again. The ending was perfectly fine to me.
This movie upholds the tradition of horrendous comic book 'threequels'. It seems that even a talented filmmaker like Nolan is not immune to the curse that has long plagued Hollywood. This movie had it all in spades. Horrible fight choreography, atrocious editing, and massive gaps in logic. I would still like to see the deleted scenes however, because I just know that Leonardo Dicaprio and Lucas Haas had to have small parts somewhere in the movie. I mean, everyone else from "Inception" was up on that screen.
Favorite film of the year so far. Thought it was a really good ending to the trilogy. It had its flaws, but it was better than pretty much anything else to come out this summer. Hope Best Buy has an exclusive steelbook like they did with the first two films.
Even though I totally understand this film has massive flaws (some of the worst dialogue of the series, logic problems, editing problems, telegraphed ending) I still found it to be a thoroughly enjoyable film. Bane was utterly hypnotic every time he was on screen. Once the first creaky act came to a conclusion, the film finally picked up and was relentless. I loved the movie, even though I know it's not perfect (by a long stretch).
David Blackwell wrote: not a fan of the DVD art. The trilogy box art is meh
both do seem incredibly lazy. I would love to see a much nicer trilogy set with all 3 movies with consistent artwork. Some of the first posters of Batman Begins have the lettering over the logo similar to how it is on dark knight/dark knight rises posters. I guess I may be nit picking about that but I like consistency especially with how well done this series was done.
early BB poster: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kiwoHIRuPds/UABuo646e...
awesome trilogy artwork: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7g1sfolE31qfq3s...
http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/up...
both do seem incredibly lazy. I would love to see a much nicer trilogy set with all 3 movies with consistent artwork. Some of the first posters of Batman Begins have the lettering over the logo similar to how it is on dark knight/dark knight rises posters. I guess I may be nit picking about that but I like consistency especially with how well done this series was done.
early BB poster: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kiwoHIRuPds/UABuo646e...
awesome trilogy artwork: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7g1sfolE31qfq3s...
http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/up...
not a fan of the DVD art. The trilogy box art is meh
Matt wrote: Cinque wrote: What took you guys so long with this?? IGN and EW have had articles about this since Thursday night.
Warner Home Video just sent out their press materials late Friday afternoon. Sorry DVDActive isn't a privileged conglomerate like IGN or Entertainment Weekly, which are owned by NEWS CORP. and TIME WARNER respectively.
LOL, okay, I'm sorry. I apologize. That was too harsh...
Matt wrote: Cinque wrote: ...And how come you guys haven't reviewed The Avengers yet?? Boy, DVDActive has really been slipping lately...
Same answer as above...MARVEL only allowed certain news organizations and sites advanced copies for review.
Same answer as above...
Warner Home Video just sent out their press materials late Friday afternoon. Sorry DVDActive isn't a privileged conglomerate like IGN or Entertainment Weekly, which are owned by NEWS CORP. and TIME WARNER respectively.
LOL, okay, I'm sorry. I apologize. That was too harsh...
Matt wrote: Cinque wrote: ...And how come you guys haven't reviewed The Avengers yet?? Boy, DVDActive has really been slipping lately...
Same answer as above...MARVEL only allowed certain news organizations and sites advanced copies for review.
Same answer as above...
I thought it was a good finale to the current Batman series -- good but not great. For me, it dragged a bit in the middle but personally, I loved the ending. I can see where some people would be put off by it, and prefer something closer to TDK's. But I liked how Nolan was able to have his cake and eat it too.
I'm personally disappointed that Nolan opted not to do a commentary, like he's done for the past four films he's directed. I understand perfectly that Nolan doesn't want to totally throw back the curtain (like how exactly did they achieve such and such), but surely there had to have been a lot of story anecdotes and such that he could've talked about.
I'm personally disappointed that Nolan opted not to do a commentary, like he's done for the past four films he's directed. I understand perfectly that Nolan doesn't want to totally throw back the curtain (like how exactly did they achieve such and such), but surely there had to have been a lot of story anecdotes and such that he could've talked about.
As someone who loved the previous movies, I was really excited when I saw the trailer. That being said, the movie turned out to be a disappointment for me. I mean, the acting was good and had some great scenes but overall it was a bit of a mess. It was too long and some scenes had no purpose to the story as a whole.
Much like Prometheus it had so many plot holes and some of the twists were a bit predictable. Overall, it had some ideas and it did manage to give a fitting end to the franchise (just not a perfect one).
Much like Prometheus it had so many plot holes and some of the twists were a bit predictable. Overall, it had some ideas and it did manage to give a fitting end to the franchise (just not a perfect one).
First day buy for sure on blu ray since I never saw it but the art work does suck and what about the people who died during the midnight showing how about mention them the victims deserve some closer
Horrible artwork. With so many killer choices they could've used what were they thinking? Terrible. Loved the flick though...but extremely disappointed there's no deleted scenes. WTH?
I'm never watching this film in full ever again. That ending pissed me off more than you can know, and so much fell flat and uninspired to me. It was a MAJOR disappointment of a movie, and that comes from a lifelong serious Batman fan.
-NJM
-NJM
Cinque wrote: What took you guys so long with this?? IGN and EW have had articles about this since Thursday night.
Warner Home Video just sent out their press materials late Friday afternoon. Sorry DVDActive isn't a privileged conglomerate like IGN or Entertainment Weekly, which are owned by NEWS CORP. and TIME WARNER respectively.
Cinque wrote: ...And how come you guys haven't reviewed The Avengers yet?? Boy, DVDActive has really been slipping lately...
Same answer as above...MARVEL only allowed certain news organizations and sites advanced copies for review.
Warner Home Video just sent out their press materials late Friday afternoon. Sorry DVDActive isn't a privileged conglomerate like IGN or Entertainment Weekly, which are owned by NEWS CORP. and TIME WARNER respectively.
Cinque wrote: ...And how come you guys haven't reviewed The Avengers yet?? Boy, DVDActive has really been slipping lately...
Same answer as above...MARVEL only allowed certain news organizations and sites advanced copies for review.
masterpiece
The best of the trilogy....
Still waiting on "Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Dog Days," but anyway, definitely getting this Blu-ray/DVD Combo Pack bad boy when it comes out. This was by far one of the best films of 2012 tied with "The Avengers." (I can't put this in a competition because they were both excellent movies) I still hope the Blu-ray has the IMAX scenes though.
My wallet is definitely going to hurt big time with this one and "Finding Nemo" on blu-ray.
My wallet is definitely going to hurt big time with this one and "Finding Nemo" on blu-ray.
Why announce an "Ultimate Collector's Edition" release before the release date of the standard Combo Pack? That's stupid. I'll personally buy both the Combo Pack and the Collector's Edition as I find this to be one of the best films ever made. Almost saw this a third time the other day. Masterpiece.
...And how come you guys haven't reviewed The Avengers yet?? Boy, DVDActive has really been slipping lately...
Waiting for the promised 2013 Ulimate Collector's Edition.
What took you guys so long with this?? IGN and EW have had articles about this since Thursday night. And how come you guys don't have any pics of the Limited Edition Set with the "Broken Mask"??
Oh, and for the record, I'm buying 2 copies of this on Dec. 4th. Gonna get the regular Blu-ray release and the Limited Edition "Broken Mask" Set. Then I'm gonna get the Ultimate Collector's Edition Trilogy Set, whenever that comes out next year. Chris Nolan will be richer than George Lucas by the time I'm done, lol...
Oh, and for the record, I'm buying 2 copies of this on Dec. 4th. Gonna get the regular Blu-ray release and the Limited Edition "Broken Mask" Set. Then I'm gonna get the Ultimate Collector's Edition Trilogy Set, whenever that comes out next year. Chris Nolan will be richer than George Lucas by the time I'm done, lol...
Action Sequences Of Dark Knight Rises(2012) SUCKED BIG TIME SUCKED BIG TIME.
I'm not buying this twice...call me when the Collector's Edition is released.
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