The Fog (UK - BD RA/B)
We have early specs for yet another BD release from the good folks at Optimum
Title: The Fog (IMDb)
Starring: Adrienne Barbeau
Released: 4th August 2008
SRP: £19.99
Further Details:
Optimum Home Entertainment has announced the Blu-ray release of The Fog for the 4th of August, priced at around £19.99. A list of confirmed specs for the release can be found below, along with the artwork.




News by Chris Gould
Starring: Adrienne Barbeau
Released: 4th August 2008
SRP: £19.99
Further Details:
Optimum Home Entertainment has announced the Blu-ray release of The Fog for the 4th of August, priced at around £19.99. A list of confirmed specs for the release can be found below, along with the artwork.
- 2.35:1 Widescreen Transfer (VC-1/1080p)
- DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1




News by Chris Gould
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Good question.
Yep, I'm getting annoyed with studios removing extras or not bothering to release "Director's/Extended Cuts" on Blu Ray. It seems studios are not taking the "high definition" format seriously.
I hope Toshiba's new "super upscaler" DVD player will be released this year - as this will save me having to upgrade my old dvds to Blu Ray.
I hope Toshiba's new "super upscaler" DVD player will be released this year - as this will save me having to upgrade my old dvds to Blu Ray.
That Toshiba thing is a serious case of Emperor's new clothes. Doesn't matter how good your algorithms are, if the data isn't there to begin with it can never compare with true HD material.
somehow this is probablt better than the remake... i have not seen the original (this)...
Fabricio De Zuasnabar wrote: somehow this is probablt better than the remake... i have not seen the original (this)...See the original....soooo much better
Makman wrote: I hope Toshiba's new "super upscaler" DVD player will be released this year - as this will save me having to upgrade my old dvds to Blu Ray.
It's just an Upscaling DVD Player, no more, no less. Don't be fooled by the marketing hype :-).
As Chris says a decent Upscaling chip definitely improves DVDs but it's still not close to even a cheap HD-DVD/BD Player.
It's just an Upscaling DVD Player, no more, no less. Don't be fooled by the marketing hype :-).
As Chris says a decent Upscaling chip definitely improves DVDs but it's still not close to even a cheap HD-DVD/BD Player.
To those still brainwashed by all this DVD upscaling C**P.
Here are the FACTS:
An NTSC DVD image can only innately consist of 720 x 480 pixels. Total - 345,600.
An HD Blu-ray image consists of 1920 x 1080 pixels. Total - 2,073,600.
It wouldn't matter if your upscaling DVD player was made of diamonds and fed to your TV with gold lined interconnects. You can't ADD resolution/detail to the image, if it isn't there to begin with.
An upscaling DVD player only converts the image, to make it compatible with your TV's native resolution. If you didn't use an upscaling player, the TV has to convert it anyway. Most of the time, the player does a better job of converting it than the TV, hence the TINY improvement. But that's it.
Get it?
Here are the FACTS:
An NTSC DVD image can only innately consist of 720 x 480 pixels. Total - 345,600.
An HD Blu-ray image consists of 1920 x 1080 pixels. Total - 2,073,600.
It wouldn't matter if your upscaling DVD player was made of diamonds and fed to your TV with gold lined interconnects. You can't ADD resolution/detail to the image, if it isn't there to begin with.
An upscaling DVD player only converts the image, to make it compatible with your TV's native resolution. If you didn't use an upscaling player, the TV has to convert it anyway. Most of the time, the player does a better job of converting it than the TV, hence the TINY improvement. But that's it.
Get it?
@thedaz: My 2 cents here:
"An NTSC DVD image can only innately consist of 720 x 480 pixels."
The posts you're responding to are from people in the UK. PAL has a better native resolution than NTSC. Therefore, the upscaled image will be closer to an HD image than an upscaled NTSC image.
From there, it's down to the individual and their TV equipment as to whether the difference between an upscaled SD image and a native HD image is worth the additional cost to not only buy a Blu-Ray player but also to replace their existing DVDs. If you haven't already invested in a 36"+ screen capable of high HD resolutions, the visible differences between the two can be almost negligible.
For a lot of people, it's not worth the expense, especially when the extras are being left off the Blu Rays. So, they'd prefer to invest in a decent upscaling DVD player rather than a full Blu-Ray system, especially if their old player's on its way out. Get it?
"An NTSC DVD image can only innately consist of 720 x 480 pixels."
The posts you're responding to are from people in the UK. PAL has a better native resolution than NTSC. Therefore, the upscaled image will be closer to an HD image than an upscaled NTSC image.
From there, it's down to the individual and their TV equipment as to whether the difference between an upscaled SD image and a native HD image is worth the additional cost to not only buy a Blu-Ray player but also to replace their existing DVDs. If you haven't already invested in a 36"+ screen capable of high HD resolutions, the visible differences between the two can be almost negligible.
For a lot of people, it's not worth the expense, especially when the extras are being left off the Blu Rays. So, they'd prefer to invest in a decent upscaling DVD player rather than a full Blu-Ray system, especially if their old player's on its way out. Get it?
Here in Australia, we're PAL too, you know. OK, so PAL has 720 x 576 pixels. Total 414,720.
Blu-ray has 2,073,600. That's FIVE times the total pixel count of PAL DVD. There's no way in heaven or hell, ANY upscaled SD DVD image can compete with that. It's plain mathematics. The thing you have get clear is that upscaling does not ADD resolution, it only converts the image to make it compatible with a higher resolution display, nothing more.
Upscaling DVD players are predominately a gimmick. And who is going to push this gimmick the hardest? Toshiba of course. Do you think they'd be pushing it if HD-DVD had won the HD war? Not a chance.
Also, I have seen a direct comparison of PAL DVD and the Blu-ray version, on a widescreen 1080i HD CRT. The Blu-ray was WAY better. I have also seen an upscaled PAL DVD and Blu-ray on a full HD 1080P LCD. The Blu-ray was WAY WAY better. It wasn't just the improved resolution, the Blu-ray versions displayed far less compression, on both TVs.
If people want to have 2000 movies on their shelf (which they'll barely live long enough to watch) and don't want to upgrade to Blu-ray, that's their loss. I believe in quality over quantity, any day. I've intentionally kept my movie collection as small as possible because I know upgrading is inevitable. I learnt that from the laserdisc days.
To dismiss Blu-ray, and to say "good quality" upscaled DVD is almost as good, is just a total load of c**p.
Blu-ray has 2,073,600. That's FIVE times the total pixel count of PAL DVD. There's no way in heaven or hell, ANY upscaled SD DVD image can compete with that. It's plain mathematics. The thing you have get clear is that upscaling does not ADD resolution, it only converts the image to make it compatible with a higher resolution display, nothing more.
Upscaling DVD players are predominately a gimmick. And who is going to push this gimmick the hardest? Toshiba of course. Do you think they'd be pushing it if HD-DVD had won the HD war? Not a chance.
Also, I have seen a direct comparison of PAL DVD and the Blu-ray version, on a widescreen 1080i HD CRT. The Blu-ray was WAY better. I have also seen an upscaled PAL DVD and Blu-ray on a full HD 1080P LCD. The Blu-ray was WAY WAY better. It wasn't just the improved resolution, the Blu-ray versions displayed far less compression, on both TVs.
If people want to have 2000 movies on their shelf (which they'll barely live long enough to watch) and don't want to upgrade to Blu-ray, that's their loss. I believe in quality over quantity, any day. I've intentionally kept my movie collection as small as possible because I know upgrading is inevitable. I learnt that from the laserdisc days.
To dismiss Blu-ray, and to say "good quality" upscaled DVD is almost as good, is just a total load of c**p.
I agree with what you're saying (I made the point myself above), but the trouble is the masses just aren't concerned with quality. In the UK, most people want 'flatscreen' TVs because they take up less space and are the next 'big thing', or so they've been led to believe. Most people don't even have an HD source to take advantage of their sets, so they end up watching compressed cable TV channels scaled to fit their display - but I've not heard anyone complain because they don't know what they're looking at.
Of course there's the cost as well. For many it's just not feasible or cost-effective to upgrade to BD. Upscaling players offer a slight increase in quality by way of interpolation and, as you rightly pointed out, decent ones usually do a better job of scaling and deinterlacing than the TVs themselves. Watching DVDs on my 42" 1080p set through my Oppo Digital, I can clearly see that they have been scaled. They're just not sharp enough and the compression artefacts really show. Of course, I work in IT and have spent years looking at progressive 720p and above resolutions, so I know what I'm looking for. My Mrs. can just about tell the difference now I've educated her, but she doesn't really care...
So, while I agree with you wholeheartedly on the technical side of things, I think we just have to accept that a lot of people either can't tell the difference, can't afford to buy into the technology, or just don't care. If I'm being honest, if I hadn't received my TV through my affiliation with this site I'd probably still be on DVD now. The prices still haven't dropped to a level where it's economical to replace most of your AV set-up for increased resolution and fidelity. Give it a bit more time though...
Toshiba might well sell a few players to regular punters on the promise of near-HD quality, but those in the know will always go for the true HD kit where possible.
Of course there's the cost as well. For many it's just not feasible or cost-effective to upgrade to BD. Upscaling players offer a slight increase in quality by way of interpolation and, as you rightly pointed out, decent ones usually do a better job of scaling and deinterlacing than the TVs themselves. Watching DVDs on my 42" 1080p set through my Oppo Digital, I can clearly see that they have been scaled. They're just not sharp enough and the compression artefacts really show. Of course, I work in IT and have spent years looking at progressive 720p and above resolutions, so I know what I'm looking for. My Mrs. can just about tell the difference now I've educated her, but she doesn't really care...
So, while I agree with you wholeheartedly on the technical side of things, I think we just have to accept that a lot of people either can't tell the difference, can't afford to buy into the technology, or just don't care. If I'm being honest, if I hadn't received my TV through my affiliation with this site I'd probably still be on DVD now. The prices still haven't dropped to a level where it's economical to replace most of your AV set-up for increased resolution and fidelity. Give it a bit more time though...
Toshiba might well sell a few players to regular punters on the promise of near-HD quality, but those in the know will always go for the true HD kit where possible.
Good points, Chris. I begrudgingly totally agree with you.
It's the masses' ignorance and apathy for quality, that disappoints and frustrates me. But for those who want quality and are not fully informed, I hate the idea of them being conned into an upscaling player.
I still only have a 32 inch 1080i CRT and am still with DVD. My TV is a beauty though, Sony's best CRT ever made. But after seeing Blu-ray, DVD is clearly lacking. I desperately want Blu-ray to flourish and succeed. And the sooner, the better. I just don't want it to go the way of laserdisc, SACD or DVD-Audio.
I'm sure I'll have a Blu-ray player by the end of the year. It's funny, I don't play video games, but the PS3 still is regarded as the best option.
I'll see how the year pans out for Blu-ray players, I guess.
It's the masses' ignorance and apathy for quality, that disappoints and frustrates me. But for those who want quality and are not fully informed, I hate the idea of them being conned into an upscaling player.
I still only have a 32 inch 1080i CRT and am still with DVD. My TV is a beauty though, Sony's best CRT ever made. But after seeing Blu-ray, DVD is clearly lacking. I desperately want Blu-ray to flourish and succeed. And the sooner, the better. I just don't want it to go the way of laserdisc, SACD or DVD-Audio.
I'm sure I'll have a Blu-ray player by the end of the year. It's funny, I don't play video games, but the PS3 still is regarded as the best option.
I'll see how the year pans out for Blu-ray players, I guess.
is the original scarier? im gonna look for it




