Alien vs. Predator: Extreme Edition (UK - DVD R2)
After previous Hollywood bouts such as Freddy vs. Jason and Kramer vs. Kramer, the lastest fisticuffs comes courtesy of two nasty ...
Welcome ladies and gentlemen to what should be the fight of the decade. In the red corner, we have an acid-blooded E.T with more teeth than the Jackson Five who first burst onto the scene in 1979. And in the blue corner, we have a humourless bounty hunter with more gadgets than James Bond and a severe disliking of the Governor of California. This is the big one; the one the fanboys have been waiting for. This is Alien vs. Predator. Place your bets, people...

Film
Occasionally a high-concept movie appears that you wish had stayed trapped on paper. Alien vs. Predatoris such a movie; a fanboy dream for many years that has already spawned a Videogame and comic book. In theory, the film should be the ultimatemonster movie. In practice, it's an instantly forgettable exercise.
The title pretty much sums up the basis of the plot but the detail is that millionaire Charles Weyland (Lance Henriksen) has recruited a group of experts to join him on an expedition to the Antarctic. Satellite pictures have unearthed a bizarre pyramid and Weyland is desperate to claim its discovery. These early stages of the film are reminiscent of the opening of Jurassic Park rather than anything in the Alien or Predator back-catalogue, and show good promise. They introduce our cast of characters, including Sanaa Lathan's Alexa and Raoul Bova's Sebastian, by showing them in their usual habitats. Extra-terrestrial beings are kept firmly out of sight as the film seems intent on developing an amount of suspense—so far, so good.
Unfortunately, things take a downward spiral when the explorers arrive at the pyramid and a sudden change of pace threatens to derail the motion picture. Seemingly convinced that that the audience will become impatient, characterisation is quickly abandoned and thin back-stories are instead deployed to encourage us to empathise with the protagonists. Not that these characters are with us for very long; within minutes the cast has been cut in half (sometimes literally) by the ‘serpent creatures’ that inhabit the pyramid. These nasty blighters are, of course, Aliens; now blessed with a vastly accelerated life-cycle for reasons not disclosed. They have been imprisoned within the pyramid to create a worthy adversary to young Predators in training. When the Predators arrive for 'Alien Hunting 101', the remaining humans find themselves caught in the crossfire of a rather nasty battle.
With paper-thin characters despatched in throwaway fashion, any sense of suspense built by the, formerly slow-moving narrative, is lost. The remainder of the movie is a jumble of fracases and death scenes, the likes of which we've seen in one or more of six prior movies. By around the hour-mark, AVP has run out of steam and a half-baked finale comes into play. It's perhaps faintly ironic that a film that has been years in the planning, is all over so quickly.

While never dull or boring, AVP seems inconsequential when compared to the earlier offerings of either franchise. Barely scraping the ninety minute mark would not be a problem if the events prior to the end-credits held any weight. Alas Paul W.S. Anderson directs in a breezy tone; failing to make the proceedings the nightmare they should be. Even the much-maligned Alien 3 managed to present us with something hard-hitting and memorable.
Perhaps the central problem of this movie is that both the Aliens and Predators gave their most significant performances in films in which they barely appeared. Subtle glimpses are all we get in Scott’s Alien and Arnie fights a mainly invisible enemy in McTiernan’s Predator. By neglecting a human cast and pitting the two monsters against each other, the supposed spectacle of that high-concept title is, in reality, a guy in a rubber suit flailing about in front of a green-screen. For all its pretensions and hype, the main attraction can only ever be a big-budget restaging of the countless Gojira movies.
Anderson pulls out the occasional flourish but the officious PG13 rating (15 certificate for UK) restricts the horror by holding out on the gore. Ultimately, Alien vs. Predator fails as both a horror flick and an action movie. You get the feeling that Anderson would like to have remade Aliens but ultimately produces something that is only slightly better than Alien Resurrection.
Video
Considering that Alien vs. Predator was filmed in a range of darkened corridors and dimly-lit spaces, the video is exceptionally good. As opposed to the 'hollow' blacks that find their way onto picture transfers, the different shades are handled with a great deal of sharpness and genuine clarity. There's no pixilation and, unsurprisingly for a film so recent, there's not a bit of grain. AVP is presented in a 2.35:1 anamorphic transfer.

Audio
Despite the faults of the main feature, Fox have obviously designated this movie as a high-profile release. In addition to extremely solid visuals, we have an almost flawless audio mix. It's presented in either Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1, although those with the right set-up should take advantage of the latter as it has a slight edge here when it comes to presenting sound effects and action. Either way, this is fantastic stuff with clear dialogue and nice surround effects.
Extras
The first of the two commentaries is a genuinely entertaining affair featuring Paul W.S. Anderson, Lance Henriksen and Sanaa Lathan. Anderson proves himself to be quite the fanboy, pointing out the numerous nods to the earlier movies. At one rather bizarre tangent, he and Henriksen spend around five minutes discussing the merits of James Cameron's Aliens, before Lathan reminds them that this is a commentary for an entirely different film. Further interruption comes from Henrikson's mobile-phone, which is eventually answered during a pivotal moment of the movie. The second audio commentary is not nearly as entertaining. A chat-track featuring the SFX guys, it holds limited appeal. The most interesting nuggets of information have already been handled in the previous commentary by Anderson.
The ‘Insider Look’ presents a (very) short peek at three Fox movies, namely Hide and Seek, Electra and Robots. This rather lazy marketing exercise is best avoided.
Moving on to disc two, and there's a great deal of good material present. The disc is split into five different elements—‘Pre-Production’, ‘Production’, ‘Post-Production’, ‘Licensing the Franchise’ and ’Marketing’—with featurettes and interviews supporting each one. Best of the bunch is arguably the ‘Pre-Production’ strand, which includes a twenty-five minute featurette on the conception of the film. This was shot before production began and includes clips from the earlier movies, interspersed with sound-bytes from Paul W.S. Anderson and members of the crew. Storyboard galleries are also on hand to illustrate the early ideas for the staging of the movie.

The ‘Production’ part of the disc is concerned mainly with the design of miniatures and costume and the featurettes therein should be worth a look to anyone interested in these aspects.
Special effects, meanwhile, are covered in ‘Post-Production’ in the 'Visual Effects Breakdown' featurette. Extras like this are an acquired taste, so approach with trepidation. Also covered in this area is a fairly long list of deleted scenes. At first, this seems to explain the slender running time but closer inspection reveals that each sequence lasts around thirty seconds. There are no hidden-gems to be found but there are moments of characterisation that many directors may have elected to keep. These moments can be cut back into the film by means of a branching option on disc one. Paul W.S. Anderson is on hand with his comments for the reel and offers a little insight into the editing of the film. He's joined by Lance Henrikson who must have simply been hanging around the studio after the commentary. His presence is welcome, if unnecessary.
‘Licensing the Franchise’ offers two featurettes—one on the comic book and another on the toys. The former will not offer much new information to long-time fans of the franchise but it should be of genuine interest to newcomers. In a similar vein, the latter featurette is surely the geekiest item on the extras list. In ‘Monsters in Miniature’, Todd McFarlane discusses the models and toys inspired by the franchise. The creator of Spawn is an eccentric kinda guy, but he talks with obvious enthusiasm.
Last, and definitely least, is the ‘Marketing’ strand which incorporates a bland HBO special as well as the teaser and trailer for the movie.

Overall
Fans of the franchises involved would do wise to hold back on an instant purchase and wait for the price to drop. While this is an excellent DVD package, incorporating good presentation and interesting features, the weak link is surely the movie itself. While not quite the catastrophe many naysayers would have you believe, Alien vs. Predator is ultimately forgettable stuff.

Film
Occasionally a high-concept movie appears that you wish had stayed trapped on paper. Alien vs. Predatoris such a movie; a fanboy dream for many years that has already spawned a Videogame and comic book. In theory, the film should be the ultimatemonster movie. In practice, it's an instantly forgettable exercise.
The title pretty much sums up the basis of the plot but the detail is that millionaire Charles Weyland (Lance Henriksen) has recruited a group of experts to join him on an expedition to the Antarctic. Satellite pictures have unearthed a bizarre pyramid and Weyland is desperate to claim its discovery. These early stages of the film are reminiscent of the opening of Jurassic Park rather than anything in the Alien or Predator back-catalogue, and show good promise. They introduce our cast of characters, including Sanaa Lathan's Alexa and Raoul Bova's Sebastian, by showing them in their usual habitats. Extra-terrestrial beings are kept firmly out of sight as the film seems intent on developing an amount of suspense—so far, so good.
Unfortunately, things take a downward spiral when the explorers arrive at the pyramid and a sudden change of pace threatens to derail the motion picture. Seemingly convinced that that the audience will become impatient, characterisation is quickly abandoned and thin back-stories are instead deployed to encourage us to empathise with the protagonists. Not that these characters are with us for very long; within minutes the cast has been cut in half (sometimes literally) by the ‘serpent creatures’ that inhabit the pyramid. These nasty blighters are, of course, Aliens; now blessed with a vastly accelerated life-cycle for reasons not disclosed. They have been imprisoned within the pyramid to create a worthy adversary to young Predators in training. When the Predators arrive for 'Alien Hunting 101', the remaining humans find themselves caught in the crossfire of a rather nasty battle.
With paper-thin characters despatched in throwaway fashion, any sense of suspense built by the, formerly slow-moving narrative, is lost. The remainder of the movie is a jumble of fracases and death scenes, the likes of which we've seen in one or more of six prior movies. By around the hour-mark, AVP has run out of steam and a half-baked finale comes into play. It's perhaps faintly ironic that a film that has been years in the planning, is all over so quickly.

While never dull or boring, AVP seems inconsequential when compared to the earlier offerings of either franchise. Barely scraping the ninety minute mark would not be a problem if the events prior to the end-credits held any weight. Alas Paul W.S. Anderson directs in a breezy tone; failing to make the proceedings the nightmare they should be. Even the much-maligned Alien 3 managed to present us with something hard-hitting and memorable.
Perhaps the central problem of this movie is that both the Aliens and Predators gave their most significant performances in films in which they barely appeared. Subtle glimpses are all we get in Scott’s Alien and Arnie fights a mainly invisible enemy in McTiernan’s Predator. By neglecting a human cast and pitting the two monsters against each other, the supposed spectacle of that high-concept title is, in reality, a guy in a rubber suit flailing about in front of a green-screen. For all its pretensions and hype, the main attraction can only ever be a big-budget restaging of the countless Gojira movies.
Anderson pulls out the occasional flourish but the officious PG13 rating (15 certificate for UK) restricts the horror by holding out on the gore. Ultimately, Alien vs. Predator fails as both a horror flick and an action movie. You get the feeling that Anderson would like to have remade Aliens but ultimately produces something that is only slightly better than Alien Resurrection.
Video
Considering that Alien vs. Predator was filmed in a range of darkened corridors and dimly-lit spaces, the video is exceptionally good. As opposed to the 'hollow' blacks that find their way onto picture transfers, the different shades are handled with a great deal of sharpness and genuine clarity. There's no pixilation and, unsurprisingly for a film so recent, there's not a bit of grain. AVP is presented in a 2.35:1 anamorphic transfer.

Audio
Despite the faults of the main feature, Fox have obviously designated this movie as a high-profile release. In addition to extremely solid visuals, we have an almost flawless audio mix. It's presented in either Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1, although those with the right set-up should take advantage of the latter as it has a slight edge here when it comes to presenting sound effects and action. Either way, this is fantastic stuff with clear dialogue and nice surround effects.
Extras
The first of the two commentaries is a genuinely entertaining affair featuring Paul W.S. Anderson, Lance Henriksen and Sanaa Lathan. Anderson proves himself to be quite the fanboy, pointing out the numerous nods to the earlier movies. At one rather bizarre tangent, he and Henriksen spend around five minutes discussing the merits of James Cameron's Aliens, before Lathan reminds them that this is a commentary for an entirely different film. Further interruption comes from Henrikson's mobile-phone, which is eventually answered during a pivotal moment of the movie. The second audio commentary is not nearly as entertaining. A chat-track featuring the SFX guys, it holds limited appeal. The most interesting nuggets of information have already been handled in the previous commentary by Anderson.
The ‘Insider Look’ presents a (very) short peek at three Fox movies, namely Hide and Seek, Electra and Robots. This rather lazy marketing exercise is best avoided.
Moving on to disc two, and there's a great deal of good material present. The disc is split into five different elements—‘Pre-Production’, ‘Production’, ‘Post-Production’, ‘Licensing the Franchise’ and ’Marketing’—with featurettes and interviews supporting each one. Best of the bunch is arguably the ‘Pre-Production’ strand, which includes a twenty-five minute featurette on the conception of the film. This was shot before production began and includes clips from the earlier movies, interspersed with sound-bytes from Paul W.S. Anderson and members of the crew. Storyboard galleries are also on hand to illustrate the early ideas for the staging of the movie.

The ‘Production’ part of the disc is concerned mainly with the design of miniatures and costume and the featurettes therein should be worth a look to anyone interested in these aspects.
Special effects, meanwhile, are covered in ‘Post-Production’ in the 'Visual Effects Breakdown' featurette. Extras like this are an acquired taste, so approach with trepidation. Also covered in this area is a fairly long list of deleted scenes. At first, this seems to explain the slender running time but closer inspection reveals that each sequence lasts around thirty seconds. There are no hidden-gems to be found but there are moments of characterisation that many directors may have elected to keep. These moments can be cut back into the film by means of a branching option on disc one. Paul W.S. Anderson is on hand with his comments for the reel and offers a little insight into the editing of the film. He's joined by Lance Henrikson who must have simply been hanging around the studio after the commentary. His presence is welcome, if unnecessary.
‘Licensing the Franchise’ offers two featurettes—one on the comic book and another on the toys. The former will not offer much new information to long-time fans of the franchise but it should be of genuine interest to newcomers. In a similar vein, the latter featurette is surely the geekiest item on the extras list. In ‘Monsters in Miniature’, Todd McFarlane discusses the models and toys inspired by the franchise. The creator of Spawn is an eccentric kinda guy, but he talks with obvious enthusiasm.
Last, and definitely least, is the ‘Marketing’ strand which incorporates a bland HBO special as well as the teaser and trailer for the movie.

Overall
Fans of the franchises involved would do wise to hold back on an instant purchase and wait for the price to drop. While this is an excellent DVD package, incorporating good presentation and interesting features, the weak link is surely the movie itself. While not quite the catastrophe many naysayers would have you believe, Alien vs. Predator is ultimately forgettable stuff.
Review by Peter Martin
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I'm sorry
Sorry to all those people that I didnt believe about this movie! I tried to ignore all the negative comments but having just watched it I have to agree it is poor!
I love both Alien and Predator, but this film was just lame from start to finish. I wanted it to be so much better but can't help feeling totally disappointed. I have to agree 6 seems a little high, but I'm just glad you enjoyed it!
I love both Alien and Predator, but this film was just lame from start to finish. I wanted it to be so much better but can't help feeling totally disappointed. I have to agree 6 seems a little high, but I'm just glad you enjoyed it!
It's one of those which improves on watching it twice, ok I just admited I watched it twice but whatever as I liked it, ok I just admited I liked it this isn't looking good for me, best not admit I own this, moving on.
The first time yes it does have it's faults, it doesn't fit in with either of the series due to it messing up the back history and the whole pyramid thing was way too similar to the movie Cube for my liking, but once I'd noted everything which was wrong which was a lot more than I just noted I managed to enjoy it a lot more, most series mess with the backstory anyway. It's also better on the smaller screen as it's easier to tell what is happening, it moves so fast at times that on the big screen it got way too confusing as to what was going on a few times, especially during the fights.
So sure it's not the best film in the series, it's better than Alien Resurrection by a long way but it is enjoyable and what more can you ask for really?
Ok that's enough of me sticking up for this for one day.
The first time yes it does have it's faults, it doesn't fit in with either of the series due to it messing up the back history and the whole pyramid thing was way too similar to the movie Cube for my liking, but once I'd noted everything which was wrong which was a lot more than I just noted I managed to enjoy it a lot more, most series mess with the backstory anyway. It's also better on the smaller screen as it's easier to tell what is happening, it moves so fast at times that on the big screen it got way too confusing as to what was going on a few times, especially during the fights.
So sure it's not the best film in the series, it's better than Alien Resurrection by a long way but it is enjoyable and what more can you ask for really?
Ok that's enough of me sticking up for this for one day.
I thought this movie was awesome. I rented it the other night to see it and I wished should have bought it.... oh, well. I might as well wait for the 2-disc special/unrated/etc, etc edition here in the US. One of Paul Anderson's best movies, after Resident Evil, of course (my opinion
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Quote: Originally posted by Chris Gould
I think six is a generous score for this steaming pile.A VERY generous score, indeed. Awful and dissapointing. And I'm not waiting for an Xtreme Unrated edition...
I think six is a generous score for this steaming pile.A VERY generous score, indeed. Awful and dissapointing. And I'm not waiting for an Xtreme Unrated edition...
I spose at the the end of the day we are all different so some people liked it and others didn't. That's the beauty of being able to express our opinions here - I thought that it may have been worth a five.
For me the film had a lot of promise but failed to deliver. I am also very dissapointed with Fox for not putting out the 2 disc set here in Australia (like they did with I, Robot, etc) at the same time as the single disc.
By the way, good review
For me the film had a lot of promise but failed to deliver. I am also very dissapointed with Fox for not putting out the 2 disc set here in Australia (like they did with I, Robot, etc) at the same time as the single disc.
By the way, good review
This is one of the best unintentional comedies of 2004. Anyone who thought this even approached being a good movie needs something checked.
Very good
I very much agree with Robin Pierce's comments above.
I think that this is an excellent film. A descent story, descent acting. The battles between the Aliens and the Predators was worth watching.
Does no damage to either franchise and let's hope for a sequel.
I think that this is an excellent film. A descent story, descent acting. The battles between the Aliens and the Predators was worth watching.
Does no damage to either franchise and let's hope for a sequel.
As good as it can get.
The story was as good as it could get, in that it had to please both Alien & Predator fans. It was obvious that there couldn't be a clear cut winner for fear of upsetting half the audience who'd be rooting for the losing faction.
Still, I liked the ending with the Alien/Predator hybrid, and seeing the Queen Alien get hers and being dragged to the bottom of the ocean was pretty damn cool.
Still, I liked the ending with the Alien/Predator hybrid, and seeing the Queen Alien get hers and being dragged to the bottom of the ocean was pretty damn cool.
Since I've been labelled 'generous', I'll try and justify my score.
I'm no fanboy but I have a lot of respect for Scott's original 'Alien' and Cameron's 'Aliens' both of which would be somewhere in the '9' territory. One of the greatest attributes of the 'Alien Quadrilogy' (sic) is it's ability to adapt and change with the arrival of a new director. This is probably why I even have an appreciation of Fincher's/ Fox's 'Alien3'.
'AVP' shines in comparison to the awful 'Alien Resurrection' and is a far more polished article than 'Predator 2'. Despite my major problems with this film, I did not find it to be a chore to watch and think that the overwhelming negative opinion is a reaction to the expectations built by years of hype.
I, too, had expectations for the combination of two big franchises and this film spectacularly failed to deliver - as discussed in my review. However, there are FAR worse films out there and the fact that this is a high-profile release shouldn't mean that it should automatically be branded with an overly harsh mark. As disappointing as this film is, there's no way that fans of either franchise should be half as disheartened as those Batman fans who sat through Joel Schumacher's attempts. ‘Batman and Robin’? THAT’s a 3 or a 4.
I'm no fanboy but I have a lot of respect for Scott's original 'Alien' and Cameron's 'Aliens' both of which would be somewhere in the '9' territory. One of the greatest attributes of the 'Alien Quadrilogy' (sic) is it's ability to adapt and change with the arrival of a new director. This is probably why I even have an appreciation of Fincher's/ Fox's 'Alien3'.
'AVP' shines in comparison to the awful 'Alien Resurrection' and is a far more polished article than 'Predator 2'. Despite my major problems with this film, I did not find it to be a chore to watch and think that the overwhelming negative opinion is a reaction to the expectations built by years of hype.
I, too, had expectations for the combination of two big franchises and this film spectacularly failed to deliver - as discussed in my review. However, there are FAR worse films out there and the fact that this is a high-profile release shouldn't mean that it should automatically be branded with an overly harsh mark. As disappointing as this film is, there's no way that fans of either franchise should be half as disheartened as those Batman fans who sat through Joel Schumacher's attempts. ‘Batman and Robin’? THAT’s a 3 or a 4.
You're a very generous man. I also grant this film 6 like you did, but out of 100...
A very generous score. Considering the content of your review I was expecting around 3 or 4 out of 10...
I think six is a generous score for this steaming pile.
Could have been worse
I reluctantly agree with the review. The movie wasn't good at all. There were a couple of good bits - the beginning and the end.
Picture wise and sound wise, presentation is crisp. I think the DTS soundtrack has the edge over Dolby but that's my subjective opinion.
Extras disc was poor as well.
Picture wise and sound wise, presentation is crisp. I think the DTS soundtrack has the edge over Dolby but that's my subjective opinion.
Extras disc was poor as well.


Suitable only for persons of 15 years and over
Disc Details
Release Date:
7th March 2005
Discs:
2
Disc Type:
Single side, dual layer
RCE:
No
Video:
PAL
Aspect:
2.35:1
Anamorphic:
Yes
Colour:
Yes
Audio:
Dolby Digital 5.1 English, DTS 5.1 English
Subtitles:
English
Extras:
Audio Commentary from Director Paul W.S. Anderson with Stars Lance Henriksen and Sanaa Lathan, Audio Commentary from Special Effects Team, 'Inside Look' at the Films 'Hide and Seek', 'Elektra' and 'Robots', 'Conception' Featurette, Storyboard Gallery, Conceptual Art Gallery, 'The Making Of' Alien vs Predator' Documentary, 'Facehuggers and Eggs' Featurette, 'Trouble at the Mouth of the Tunnel' Featurette, 'Miniature Whaling Station' Featurtte, 'Visual Effects' Featurette, 'ADI (Special Effects) Workshop' Featurette, Deleted Scenes with Optional Audio Commentary, HBO Special Programme, 'Monsters In Miniature' Featurette,
Easter Egg:
No
Feature Details
Director:
Paul W.S. Anderson
Cast:
Sanaa Lathan, Raoul Bova, Ewen Bremner, Colin Salmon, Tommy Flanagan, Lance Henrikson, Agathe de La Boulaye, Carsten Norgaard
Genre:
Action
Length:
96 minutes


