Avatar (US - BD RA)
Gabe has nice things to say about the video and audio qualities of this Blu-ray
Feature
A hundred and some years into the future humanity, having ruined Earth by over-extending its natural resources, discovers a beautiful, lush jungle planet called Pandora. On Pandora humans discover Unobtanium, a super-valuable mineral they desperately want to mine. Unfortunately, mining Unobtanium requires a whole lot of deforestation, and among the colourful creatures living on Pandora are a race of giant blue humanoids called the Na’vi. The humans on Pandora are divided into three camps—the company men that collect Unobtanium, the mercenaries that protect them, and the scientists that study the planet. The scientists grow Na'vi-human hybrids called ‘avatars’, which are operated via mental link by the genetically matching humans, in order to communicate with the local savages. When one of them dies they send for his twin brother, Jake Sully (Sam Worthington), a paraplegic ex-marine with no scientific background, who, against all odds, is allowed into the Na’vi society and taught their ways.
I had a laundry list of critical complaints, and mean spirited nitpicks prepared for this review. It’s a literal list. I’ve been keeping it neatly folded in my wallet since January, and I was ready to unleash it, until I realized bitching about the most popular movie of all time (adjusted for the incredibly inflated price of modern 3D movie tickets, it actually sits below Empire Strikes Back in US ticket sales) would be incredibly narcissistic, especially considering the laundry list of professional critical complaints that have been available to read since the film’s release. I also have to admit that I had very little interest in ever liking [i]Avatar in the first place, and I actively rooted against it at the box office. Why? Besides being generally incensed by how much it cost to make the film (the cost of modern blockbusters has bugged me for years), I was hoping flop status would force Fox to can geek movie earth scorcher Tom Rothman. Anyway, I’m not a fan, but I’m constricting my thoughts to a couple of paragraphs, because I know you don’t care.
On the positive side of the neon lit street is the inescapable sense of awe in Avatar’s visuals, especially when presented on the big screen, and in 3D. The gist of the awe is actually not lost in the transition to Blu-ray, but it’s certainly not the same experience. I wouldn’t dare argue that James Cameron’s world isn’t pretty, but he spends a fetishistic amount of time flying virtual cameras through giant digital trees. The creature designs are certainly a highlight (love those spinning lizard things), and the realistic details of the digital creatures are practically unprecedented (though the Sigourney Weaver Avatar is grotesque uncanny-valley stuff). Avatar is a rich visual meal, and can turn the stomach on occasion, specifically the black light poster-looking night scenes (which I found a bit dippy aesthetically speaking), but the final battle is exciting, and the genuine beauty goes a long way towards ignoring the belly ache. Cameron occasionally bottles a true sense of wonder, and is at his best when reminds us of the tactile possibilities of these virtual environments, especially through Jake in his Avatar form. Jake digging his toes into the soil, and touching all the light up plants are both solid cases for given the film a few passes, even if the character is less compelling than the spinning lizard things.
My enduring problem with the film is Cameron’s crap writing. A second viewing, minus the headache inducing 3D, reveals far more problems than a simply derivative basic plot. Yes, everyone not blinded by the sparkling prettiness knows that Cameron is riffing on the Pocahontas myth, with bits of Dances with Wolves, and an embarrassing Ferngully: The Last Rainforest garnish, but it’s only part of a bigger problem. I still enjoy Star Wars, which exists to be derivative, so I can’t get myself too worked up over Avatar’s use of the ‘Jesus of the noble natives’ trope. But I can compare the storytelling to Cameron’s earlier work. Terminator, Aliens and The Abyss are based loosely on other stories ( True Lies is a remake), and are formulaic in terms of structure, but they’re good stories, and well told. Avatar’s script is broken into the exposition spouting first act, the lagging, repetitive second act, and the never ending, battle heavy third act. The first time I saw the film the middle act stood out as the real issue, but it’s the first act that really drove me mad this time around. Cameron’s editing in this section is actually successfully speedy, but his characters speak to each other in the most illogically expositional terms, as if this is the first day of this six-plus year mission these departments have discussed the Na’vi or (sigh) Unobtainium. What makes it worse is that Cameron already sets up Jake’s awkward narration, which should’ve served the same purpose.
Video
This is the part where I actually end up recommending this disc to the hard core videophiles in the house. It’s not in 3D (yet), but Avatar is damn pretty movie experience, features a direct digital HD transfer, and there’s no pesky plotting to get in the way of drooling at the picture perfect digital details (or extra features to steal away valuable disc space). Clearly green is a theme colour, and those hyper-realistic vegetation vistas are perfectly clean, perfectly represented in terms of detail, and perfectly sharpened without any noticeably compression issues. The other major theme colour doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone that has ever seen a James Cameron film—it’s blue. These Na’vi blues are most impressive against the daylight greens, where the skin textures are illuminated externally, and give off a more realistic light. The night time scenes, with all their florescent highlights and bioluminescence, are the more visual striking, but fair pretty well on the included DVD copy. In HD the edges are well cut, the colours are brighter and pin-pointed, but the SD black levels don’t look too bad.
The extreme sharpness does lead to some incredibly minor blooming during the brightest, and most visually packed compositions, but I’m otherwise so enthralled by the depth and consistency of the details I’m assuming it’s somehow intended (either that, or my set’s setting are somehow at fault). There aren’t any artefacts or compression issues to speak of, and the intricacies of the transfer are striking on all fronts, from the pours on the Na’vi’s skin, to the random fleck of waterfall way off in the background. The climatic battle is the transfer’s forty minute high point due to the complexity and diversity of visual elements. The lush, primary elements of Pandora’s flora and fauna should completely overwhelm the steel grays and blacks of the warring Earth forces, but nothing is lost in the chaos. The transfer also verifies the perfection of the special effects, which with minor exceptions in character animation, appears every bit as real and natural as an IMAX nature documentary. I’m curious as to the 1.78:1 framing, as Cameron had said he preferred 2.35:1 for the non-3D version of the film in some interviews, but I’m not going to complain about a little more eye-candy on the top and bottom of the frame.
Audio
Reference level video, may I reacquaint you with your good friend reference level audio. I’m not particularly impressed with Christopher Boyes’ sound design. It’s derivative, and though adequate in terms of editing, and immersive sensation, doesn’t really meet the rest of the film’s obsessive level of construction. It’s a silly criticism, but I distinctly recalled two creature elements that were lifted practically verbatim from the Jurassic Park franchise. The big, predatory creature lets out a T-Rex wail at one point, and the horse creatures sound a whole hell of a lot like a velociraptor demanding assistance. Boyes’ work doesn’t stand up creatively to Gary Rydstrom or Ben Burtt’s best (for the record I think Burtt’s work on Star Trek deserved the Sound Design Oscar this year), but his mixing and editing skills are the issue at hand concerning the quality of this disc’s DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack, and they’re next to perfect.
There’s nothing I can say about the track without coming off dopey. The immersive qualities are intense, recreating the genuine experience of wondering, or rather running furiously through a tropical environment. The directional elements are startling, the rear and stereo channels are consistently busy, and it’s easy to catch oneself craning one’s neck to make sure there isn’t actually a spinning lizard thing behind them. The dialogue is never lost in the chaos (the ‘Get Some’ guy is loud and clear), but also doesn’t awkwardly overwhelm the track at the wrong time. The airborn battles are the most fun, due clearly to that exciting mix of screeching dragons and high-octane war machines. The unadulterated quantity of aural elements should’ve devolved into a muddy mess, but the clarity of the spread matches almost anything on The Lord of the Rings. And then there’s the LFE presence, which itself cannot be underestimated, especially when it comes to carpet bombing home tree. The tree’s crash and burn was intense enough to force me to turn down my subwoofer, though warble isn’t a problem. James Horner’s cheesy, touchy-feely score fairs well as well, but the disc’s producers have neglected to include the option to turn it off if we’re too nauseated.
Extras
This review arrives late enough that I don’t think I have to warn anyone that this release features zero extras on either the Blu-ray or DVD copy. Cameron has promised something more in the future.
Overall
The cult of Avatar continues to elude me, but at this point my opinion is more or less irrelevant. The film’s moderate level fans will want to hold off for a while, as a massive special edition has been announced (possibly even with 3D video capabilities), but passing fans might want to pick up a copy for reference purposes, and die-hard fans will probably want to own every release they can get their grubby little blue hands on. I’m not a fan of the film (or it’s sound design), but I can’t argue with the high definition, DTS-HD results. If I didn’t already own copies of Baraka, Wall-E and Speed Racer I’d probably want an Avatar disc all my own, which is probably the most genuinely positive thing I can say about any movie I didn’t enjoy enough to watch again anytime soon.
There’s surely a bright side to the film’s massive popularity, and that’s the possibility of Cameron’s heavy-handed environmental messages didn’t fall on deaf ears. The fact that the guy who wrote Rambo: First Blood Part 2, and directed Aliens and True Lies made Avatar kind of blows my mind.
* Note: The above images are taken from the Blu-ray release and resized for the page.
Review by Gabriel Powers
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i enjoyed this more at home and in glorious 2D. this was the first and likely only 3D movie i'll ever see in theaters. this was the "AWESOME BE ALL END ALL 3D OF ALL TIME" and yet it looked like some lame viewmaster effect. hell there was a 3D preview of the Pirahna remake before and the 3D effects wasn't any better or worse so yeah...this whole gimmick is just well..gimmicky. lol
it took me a good 30mins to stop being distracted by all the paper cut outs and then i adjusted and didnt even realize or notice that stuff was 3D anymore which sorta defeats the purpose i think.
so yeah i definately enjoyed more at home. i liked the movie, i dont think its amazing or awesome or even great, its just a good sci-fi/fantasy/action movie, nothing more and nothing less.
but i do love their "we didn't put extras so it could have the best image possible" line. sure it had a very nice image but i've seen and own many blu-ray movies that are just as nice and have added things taking up space. but i guess they have to make people think there's a reason for the barebones edition other than double dipping.
it took me a good 30mins to stop being distracted by all the paper cut outs and then i adjusted and didnt even realize or notice that stuff was 3D anymore which sorta defeats the purpose i think.
so yeah i definately enjoyed more at home. i liked the movie, i dont think its amazing or awesome or even great, its just a good sci-fi/fantasy/action movie, nothing more and nothing less.
but i do love their "we didn't put extras so it could have the best image possible" line. sure it had a very nice image but i've seen and own many blu-ray movies that are just as nice and have added things taking up space. but i guess they have to make people think there's a reason for the barebones edition other than double dipping.
Really liked the flick, but I can wait till the SE to bite.
But it's good to know the transfer is as spectacular as everyone says in case the price drops to $10 before the SE. I might jump at a deal that low.
But it's good to know the transfer is as spectacular as everyone says in case the price drops to $10 before the SE. I might jump at a deal that low.
First things first, you guys are haters. I don't what movie y'all were watching but what I saw was an massive experience that I will never forget and the Blu-ray had brilliant audio & HD video. "Avatar" shows that there is such a thing as a good movie. Anybody else who doesn't think it, need to label themselves as "ungrateful" & crawl under a large rock.
Ha ha, only 4 posts before an angry, unintelligible response.
I missed this in the theatres but bought and watched the Blu-ray and I must say its a pretty good movie. On the whole, its a bit light on substance but the 3-D technology and Cameron's eye for groundbreaking CGI make this more of an experience than just your average movie. A/Q & P/Q are rediculously gorgeous, which made the home viewing experience even better for me.
I somehow feel that the movie maybe better in 2D HD. But I'm not going to find out. I watched it twice, once in 3D and once in Imax 3D. I don't think I can watch it, or a sequel, again.
My problem, besides the pedestrian "nature: good, man: bad" story was the uneven screenplay. And I absolutely loathed the Na'vi design. They look really ugly and the critters of the forest are not all that appealing either. The reviews I read initially elevated the final battle to be the be-all, end-all screen battle, but actually watching it was underwhelming. And Sam Worthington.... please stop casting him. He was bad in T4, he is bad in this. How long before they stop casting him?
I will not be picking this up either in 2D or 3D or whatever other version it is released in. I prefer the gamechanger from a long time ago...
My problem, besides the pedestrian "nature: good, man: bad" story was the uneven screenplay. And I absolutely loathed the Na'vi design. They look really ugly and the critters of the forest are not all that appealing either. The reviews I read initially elevated the final battle to be the be-all, end-all screen battle, but actually watching it was underwhelming. And Sam Worthington.... please stop casting him. He was bad in T4, he is bad in this. How long before they stop casting him?
I will not be picking this up either in 2D or 3D or whatever other version it is released in. I prefer the gamechanger from a long time ago...
I have to say seeing this in the theater, in 3D, I didn't think the home version could compare. I had no headache afterwards and to be honest, forgetting that you are watching 3D is one of the aspects Cameron was going for here. There were many times I would be drawn back into the 3D realm when something would float by, but all in all, the best 3D I have ever seen. I think you MUST see this film in 3D via the best screen and projector available. We are lucky where I live to have a theater that is on the cutting edge of technology and the film was amazing to watch.
This brings me back to my first statement that I feared seeing this at home, man was I wrong. Watching the Blu-ray via my 61 inch Samsung I saw even greater detail than in the theater. It is an absolutely beautiful film to watch. I don't get the gripes about the story. I see no complaints about all the superhero films that continue to be paraded out, all following the same basic story arc. Sure some throw a wrinkle in here and there, even so far as to get rated R. But they are all the same story told over and over, but we line up to see it or read it every time. Same here; the man of the system, sent in to subdue the natives, only to be shown the error of his ways, ultimately shedding his form self. The comparisons to Dances, Fergully, Pocahontas, etc, are all way too obvious. That same story arc of redemption, which they all are, can be found in almost every other story in popular culture. Yes the themse of environment, natives, etc, are specific to the previously mentioned and are all used in Avatar, but shouldn't we all just stop watching every single comic book movie that comes out because ultimately it is going to be the same story, just a different suit on the hero? No, we see them all because we like to see the story of redemption. Nothing different here, it just happens to look a whole lot prettier
This brings me back to my first statement that I feared seeing this at home, man was I wrong. Watching the Blu-ray via my 61 inch Samsung I saw even greater detail than in the theater. It is an absolutely beautiful film to watch. I don't get the gripes about the story. I see no complaints about all the superhero films that continue to be paraded out, all following the same basic story arc. Sure some throw a wrinkle in here and there, even so far as to get rated R. But they are all the same story told over and over, but we line up to see it or read it every time. Same here; the man of the system, sent in to subdue the natives, only to be shown the error of his ways, ultimately shedding his form self. The comparisons to Dances, Fergully, Pocahontas, etc, are all way too obvious. That same story arc of redemption, which they all are, can be found in almost every other story in popular culture. Yes the themse of environment, natives, etc, are specific to the previously mentioned and are all used in Avatar, but shouldn't we all just stop watching every single comic book movie that comes out because ultimately it is going to be the same story, just a different suit on the hero? No, we see them all because we like to see the story of redemption. Nothing different here, it just happens to look a whole lot prettier
Gabe Powers wrote: Ha ha, only 4 posts before an angry, unintelligible response.
Are you referring to the angry, unintelligible response that I posted? Because if it is, I take offense to that.
Are you referring to the angry, unintelligible response that I posted? Because if it is, I take offense to that.
Of course I'm referring to your post, which was angry and largely unintelligible.
Fortunately for you I don't take offense at being told to 'crawl under a large rock', which may well be the funniest insult I've ever had hurled at me.
Fortunately for you I don't take offense at being told to 'crawl under a large rock', which may well be the funniest insult I've ever had hurled at me.
KMA wrote: First things first, you guys are haters.
Really? There are still people using the term 'haters'? Oh my...
Really? There are still people using the term 'haters'? Oh my...
LOL @ people defending this c**p.
This film will always polarise public opinion.
We still haven't seen the thing - trips to the cinema are awfully expensive and buying blind on Blu is something that we're a little wary of. We'll both probably get around to renting it eventually.
We have been cautious about watching it because when the 3D is stripped away, there seems to be little left (apart from the visuals) but a hackneyed story that has been told before.
The Wilson Bros
We still haven't seen the thing - trips to the cinema are awfully expensive and buying blind on Blu is something that we're a little wary of. We'll both probably get around to renting it eventually.
We have been cautious about watching it because when the 3D is stripped away, there seems to be little left (apart from the visuals) but a hackneyed story that has been told before.
The Wilson Bros
Gabe Powers wrote: Ha ha, only 4 posts before an angry, unintelligible response.
Lol, so true.
I can see where people might enjoy this film. But some have adapted a religious zealot-type stance on the movie, which is just downright sad. Personally, I thought the movie was nice to look at in spots but overall it was a pretty big snooze. Have enjoyed all of Cameron's work before "Avatar", but I couldn't get past the terrible dialogue, one-dimensional characters and by-the-numbers story. Jim, now that you have the technology in place, focus on a better script for the sequel.
Lol, so true.
I can see where people might enjoy this film. But some have adapted a religious zealot-type stance on the movie, which is just downright sad. Personally, I thought the movie was nice to look at in spots but overall it was a pretty big snooze. Have enjoyed all of Cameron's work before "Avatar", but I couldn't get past the terrible dialogue, one-dimensional characters and by-the-numbers story. Jim, now that you have the technology in place, focus on a better script for the sequel.
The films visuals make it a must see if you are a Blu-ray enthusiats.
But the acting and the story are beyond horrible.
My advice: Have some beers, plug off your brain and just enjoy the HD experience
But the acting and the story are beyond horrible.
My advice: Have some beers, plug off your brain and just enjoy the HD experience
Bouncy X wrote: but i do love their "we didn't put extras so it could have the best image possible" line. sure it had a very nice image but i've seen and own many blu-ray movies that are just as nice and have added things taking up space. but i guess they have to make people think there's a reason for the barebones edition other than double dipping. 
Were any of those movies 162 minutes long? Longer movie = more disc space required. I'm not saying they couldn't have thrown a few things on there, but the disc is pretty well full. Now why they couldn't just give us a second disc is another story altogether...
Were any of those movies 162 minutes long? Longer movie = more disc space required. I'm not saying they couldn't have thrown a few things on there, but the disc is pretty well full. Now why they couldn't just give us a second disc is another story altogether...
Why would you want to turn the score off??
Good review of the disc and fair, given that Gabe doesn't care for the film.
I too noticed the Jurassic sound elements. Haven't heard an obvious Wilhelm yet though but it'll probably be in there when I get a proper chance to listen.
All the criticism of the story is perfectly valid but (having an interest in visual effects from an early age as I do) I think these technically pioneering films need 'classic' stories. Stories that can take care of themselves narratively speaking because getting the visuals to work is such an up hill struggle. Look at Tron or Final Fantasy.
Those films try (I think) to have original plots to go along side the ground breaking visuals. Sometimes though, the risk with original writing can be that the story doesn't hold together as well as a tried and tested one. So while Tron is well thought of by people of a certain age, it can be uneven and flawed in certain areas.
It's my theory that Cameron chose an old used story because he knew it worked and it let him focus on getting the new technology to work.
That might sound like trying to rationalize the flaws/faults/weaknesses of the story, but I remain a fan of Avatar's technical achievements while acknowledging that, had it been made in another 2-3 years (with more mature technology) we might have had something that broke new ground on all levels not just the visual.
I too noticed the Jurassic sound elements. Haven't heard an obvious Wilhelm yet though but it'll probably be in there when I get a proper chance to listen.
All the criticism of the story is perfectly valid but (having an interest in visual effects from an early age as I do) I think these technically pioneering films need 'classic' stories. Stories that can take care of themselves narratively speaking because getting the visuals to work is such an up hill struggle. Look at Tron or Final Fantasy.
Those films try (I think) to have original plots to go along side the ground breaking visuals. Sometimes though, the risk with original writing can be that the story doesn't hold together as well as a tried and tested one. So while Tron is well thought of by people of a certain age, it can be uneven and flawed in certain areas.
It's my theory that Cameron chose an old used story because he knew it worked and it let him focus on getting the new technology to work.
That might sound like trying to rationalize the flaws/faults/weaknesses of the story, but I remain a fan of Avatar's technical achievements while acknowledging that, had it been made in another 2-3 years (with more mature technology) we might have had something that broke new ground on all levels not just the visual.
I have never seen this film for anything other than popcorn fun. I can see how some folks would place a higher meaning to it all, but I just enjoy the performances, story and technology of it.
PhilipRidley wrote: The films visuals make it a must see if you are a Blu-ray enthusiats.
But the acting and the story are beyond horrible.
My advice: Have some beers, plug off your brain and just enjoy the HD experience
I really dont understand this at all
None of the acting is horrible at all. Most of the performances are good, with some standout ones like Zoe Saldana and Stephan Lang
Some of the hyperbolic vitriol this movie gets is hilarious.
The story may be simple but I find it far better executed than 95% of all other major blockbusters of the last decade. The only ones Id put above it are the LOTR and Batman films (and even then, TDK suffers from some really clunky storytelling that Avatar does not)
But the acting and the story are beyond horrible.
My advice: Have some beers, plug off your brain and just enjoy the HD experience
I really dont understand this at all
None of the acting is horrible at all. Most of the performances are good, with some standout ones like Zoe Saldana and Stephan Lang
Some of the hyperbolic vitriol this movie gets is hilarious.
The story may be simple but I find it far better executed than 95% of all other major blockbusters of the last decade. The only ones Id put above it are the LOTR and Batman films (and even then, TDK suffers from some really clunky storytelling that Avatar does not)
I enjoyed Avatar in 3D and 2D. I know the script has issues. Also I have fun reading the comments. Some of them amuse me.
David Blackwell wrote: I enjoyed Avatar in 3D and 2D. I know the script has issues. Also I have fun reading the comments. Some of them amuse me.
Ditto. I also enjoy reading these comments, especially for a massive movie like this & sometimes I can get a hellofa show (read= hot arguments).
Oh, and I'm glad not being the only one that bugged by the sound of Raptor & Rex. JC so focused on the visual he couldn't even get original voices (or noises?) for his creatures in this flick, let alone an original script.
Ditto. I also enjoy reading these comments, especially for a massive movie like this & sometimes I can get a hellofa show (read= hot arguments).
Oh, and I'm glad not being the only one that bugged by the sound of Raptor & Rex. JC so focused on the visual he couldn't even get original voices (or noises?) for his creatures in this flick, let alone an original script.

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Disc Details
Release Date:
25th April 2010
Discs:
2
Disc Type:
Blu-ray Disc
RCE:
No
Video:
1080p
Aspect:
1.78:1
Anamorphic:
No
Colour:
Yes
Audio:
DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 English, Dolby Digital 5.1 French and Spanish
Subtitles:
English SDH, French, Spanish
Extras:
DVD Copy
Easter Egg:
No
Feature Details
Director:
James Cameron
Cast:
Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Sigourney Weaver, Stephen Lang
Genre:
Action and Adventure
Length:
155 minutes
Ratings
Awards




And no way I'm getting that special edition. I find 3D to be an eyesore and a frustrating sales gimmick. Plus this movie reallllly doesn't need to be any longer than it already is.