Fly: Ultimate Collector's Edition, The (UK - DVD R2)
Bzzzzzz. Benjamin Willcock has reviewed the seven disc set that made him Zzzzzz.
From my experience, everybody loves a good monster movie. Be it some over-the-top, cheesy, camp and delirious 50s effort, or modern day special effect laden blockbusters, audiences cannot get enough of seeing bizarre creatures come to life and leave chaos and destruction in their wake. One of Hollywood’s greatest assets, at least in modern consensus, is its ability to blow stuff up with mindless bravado seen nowhere else but in their coveted studios. Back in 1958, when cinemagoers worldwide ventured into the complexes to be thrust in front of giant blobs, claymation dinosaurs and octopuses, one flick did something a little unexpected. The Fly – aptly titled as it is – placed its human protagonist in a situation where he suddenly became his deadly opposite, the antagonist of the plot.

Feature
This is a theme Hollywood has since picked up on in several blatant rip-offs over the years; some have even managed to do a much better job of it, too. The Fly, as bold and convincing as it was (for the time), had several plot holes and inconsistencies that are probably best described as being sinfully opaque. Though the thrill of seeing a man adorned in a hairy suit chasing innocent bystanders was sure to scare innocent audiences back in the 50s, today it comes off as ludicrous and perhaps painfully cheesy. Indeed, this 1950s original does not hold up as well as one might think, nor does its 1959 follow-up, Return of the Fly.
In this film, story and plot points cleverly setup in the first were shunned in favour of higher quantities of makeup and special effects – a theme all audiences of today are all too familiar with. And while it can be said that the first now appears boring by today’s standards, for all intents and purposes it does still come over as a good, solid film. Return of the Fly is just plain bad however. Everything about it screams gloom; its dire makeup that is even worse that the first; a plot so thin it threatens to snap before your very eyes and dialogue delivery that is comparable to a game of ping pong, jabbing back and forth with an almost sadistic quality.

Then we come to the killer, the third and (thankfully) final act of this horror trilogy – Curse of the Fly. Coming several years after the second, you’d expect tighter, more visceral action and special effects, but you’d be dead wrong. What you can expect is a film fit for a bowl of dirty dishwater – a benign, maniacal frenzy so far removed from its original it is barely worth watching. The main problem with both of The Fly’s sequels is that they did nothing new, they repeat themes over and over again and lost direction and subtlety along the way.
By this third film, the series begins to parody itself in ways so mundane you’ll be forgiven for falling asleep less then half way though. Indeed, Hollywood has always been this way, but you may be shocked to learn that cinema was as uneven and disorderly back in the 50s as it is today. A great many people seem to think cinema is worse today than it used to be, but if this seven disc boxset teaches us anything, it is that cinema has always been this way. Hollywood hasn’t changed one iota, and I doubt it ever will.
After all of these three films drifted from modern memory, it wasn’t until the mid eighties that Hollywood execs decided a remake was necessary. Film fans had a right to be sceptical – why remake a series that didn’t exactly enjoy booming success, why not just leave it dead and buried? But what Canadian director David Cronenberg brought to his remake was just about everything that was absent from all of its older brothers – scares, substance and plenty of visual style.

It was this film that quickly became the series’ grandest achievement, even heartily surpassing the original from which it was inspired. Cronenberg delivered, and his direction, coupled with a strong, methodical story won over a whole new generation of cinemagoers. It was also the film that saw Jeff Goldblum’s career skyrocket. His supporting cast also did a fantastic job, not least the lovely Geena Davis. And while the film didn’t break any box office records, or go on to win any major awards, it took an aging concept and reworked it into something fresh and rewarding.
Sadly however, Hollywood’s greed got in the way once more, as it called for more sequels. You’d think that they would have learned by this time that sequels, especially for films of this nature, are not good for business. But still, they persisted, and the result was the fifth and final film in this collection, The Fly II. Just like the original 1958 version had dire sequels, it seemed the same fate awaited this modern saga. Weak storytelling, bland characters and a complete lack of imagination is what plagues this sequel – all too familiar signs a series has outstayed its welcome. After The Fly II crashed hard at the box office, Hollywood got the message – this franchise was over and done with, for the second time.

Video
The video presentation across all five film discs is good, if resoundingly unspectacular. Two of the first three films are in black and white and are naturally overcharged with more noise than your average Slipknot concert. As with many horror films, I often appreciate this effect, unintentional or not. It is quite obvious that here the effect is unintentional, but it still serves its purpose well enough. The newer generation of films are slightly better, but are still just as unclean and uneven as their siblings. Images are not as sharp as they need to be, and more often than not the images are plagued with annoying artefacts which serve as welcome distractions for the less favourable films in this set. Still, for what they are, and considering their age they look pretty good.
Audio
Each film is presented in Dolby Digital, though not all are given the full 5.1 treatment. The first crop of films sound virtually identical to most films produced in the 50s and 60s. Audio is tinny, often piercing and bass response is practically non-existent. Thankfully, the later generation films sound better (as expected), but in all honestly the sound is still oddly underwhelming. Directional effects are mostly flat, and any bass that comes across the sound range is again not particularly spectacular. Overall, these films sound good, but not as much as they could have done, especially the latter two.

Extras
Let us start from the very first film in this set. On this disc, all you are going to get is a theatrical trailer, and an ugly one at that. There’s no documentary present, no interviews and no commentary – highly disappointing indeed. The second film and disc fares no better either, with yet another ugly-looking theatrical trailer present. The third film, Curse of the Fly has no features at all.
Onto the second generation of films. The 1986 version of The Fly has plenty of features, thankfully. On disc one you get a great commentary from David Cronenberg to whet your appetite. Disc two kicks off with two decent documentaries: ‘Fear of the Flesh’ and ‘The Brundle Museum of Natural History’. There are also several deleted scenes, a small handful of which were quite interesting. The ‘Written Works’ menu contains the full script for the original short story, the screenplay, the rewrite and finally some magazine articles. The disc also includes several film test segments, each about a minute or two in length. Lastly, you get some promotional material such as trailers, TV spots and a still gallery that rounds out the disc.
Disc one of The Fly II contains a director’s commentary. Chris Walas isn’t as good a talker as David Cronenberg, but he still provides an insightful commentary for his drab film. Joining him on this commentary is film historian Bob Burns. Next up is a deleted scene, an alternate ending, and trailers for each film in the entire saga, save for this one, oddly. On disc two we get another two documentaries: ‘Transformations’ and ‘The Buzz on Hollywood’s Scariest Insect’. The latter is a little bias perhaps, but both are reasonably entertaining. Next up there are three featurettes: ‘1989 Theatrical EPK’, ‘CWI Video’ and ‘Composer’s Master Class’. For those that appreciate storyboard to film comparisons, you will no doubt like the variant that appears on this disc. You can select from three scenes, and there is also an option to have director’s commentary on or off. Lastly there are some trailers (which actually does contain the trailer for this film) and a stills gallery.

Overall
If the messages throughout this review have not already become clear, then I will state it more obviously: I cannot, and do not recommend this DVD set, even if film lore if your thing. To be honest, I cannot imagine this set appealing to anyone but the most fussy and avid collectors, and even then it is sure to test their patience. The highlight of the set is Jeff Goldblum’s interpretation of The Fly, and the original 1958 effort still offers plenty of camp entertainment, but the set as a whole inspires very mixed feelings.
This uneven nature also transpires to the audio and video presentation, too. Though things could certainly have been worse, the technical aspects are not particularly impressive or rewarding. Even the extra features contained within this seven disc set create the feeling of monotony, and only the faintest glimmer of hope comes from the 1986 version and its spattering of extras. In all, The Fly boxset is a mixed bag, and one with holes aplenty. Overall, this set is not worth the price of admission.

Feature
This is a theme Hollywood has since picked up on in several blatant rip-offs over the years; some have even managed to do a much better job of it, too. The Fly, as bold and convincing as it was (for the time), had several plot holes and inconsistencies that are probably best described as being sinfully opaque. Though the thrill of seeing a man adorned in a hairy suit chasing innocent bystanders was sure to scare innocent audiences back in the 50s, today it comes off as ludicrous and perhaps painfully cheesy. Indeed, this 1950s original does not hold up as well as one might think, nor does its 1959 follow-up, Return of the Fly.
In this film, story and plot points cleverly setup in the first were shunned in favour of higher quantities of makeup and special effects – a theme all audiences of today are all too familiar with. And while it can be said that the first now appears boring by today’s standards, for all intents and purposes it does still come over as a good, solid film. Return of the Fly is just plain bad however. Everything about it screams gloom; its dire makeup that is even worse that the first; a plot so thin it threatens to snap before your very eyes and dialogue delivery that is comparable to a game of ping pong, jabbing back and forth with an almost sadistic quality.

Then we come to the killer, the third and (thankfully) final act of this horror trilogy – Curse of the Fly. Coming several years after the second, you’d expect tighter, more visceral action and special effects, but you’d be dead wrong. What you can expect is a film fit for a bowl of dirty dishwater – a benign, maniacal frenzy so far removed from its original it is barely worth watching. The main problem with both of The Fly’s sequels is that they did nothing new, they repeat themes over and over again and lost direction and subtlety along the way.
By this third film, the series begins to parody itself in ways so mundane you’ll be forgiven for falling asleep less then half way though. Indeed, Hollywood has always been this way, but you may be shocked to learn that cinema was as uneven and disorderly back in the 50s as it is today. A great many people seem to think cinema is worse today than it used to be, but if this seven disc boxset teaches us anything, it is that cinema has always been this way. Hollywood hasn’t changed one iota, and I doubt it ever will.
After all of these three films drifted from modern memory, it wasn’t until the mid eighties that Hollywood execs decided a remake was necessary. Film fans had a right to be sceptical – why remake a series that didn’t exactly enjoy booming success, why not just leave it dead and buried? But what Canadian director David Cronenberg brought to his remake was just about everything that was absent from all of its older brothers – scares, substance and plenty of visual style.

It was this film that quickly became the series’ grandest achievement, even heartily surpassing the original from which it was inspired. Cronenberg delivered, and his direction, coupled with a strong, methodical story won over a whole new generation of cinemagoers. It was also the film that saw Jeff Goldblum’s career skyrocket. His supporting cast also did a fantastic job, not least the lovely Geena Davis. And while the film didn’t break any box office records, or go on to win any major awards, it took an aging concept and reworked it into something fresh and rewarding.
Sadly however, Hollywood’s greed got in the way once more, as it called for more sequels. You’d think that they would have learned by this time that sequels, especially for films of this nature, are not good for business. But still, they persisted, and the result was the fifth and final film in this collection, The Fly II. Just like the original 1958 version had dire sequels, it seemed the same fate awaited this modern saga. Weak storytelling, bland characters and a complete lack of imagination is what plagues this sequel – all too familiar signs a series has outstayed its welcome. After The Fly II crashed hard at the box office, Hollywood got the message – this franchise was over and done with, for the second time.

Video
The video presentation across all five film discs is good, if resoundingly unspectacular. Two of the first three films are in black and white and are naturally overcharged with more noise than your average Slipknot concert. As with many horror films, I often appreciate this effect, unintentional or not. It is quite obvious that here the effect is unintentional, but it still serves its purpose well enough. The newer generation of films are slightly better, but are still just as unclean and uneven as their siblings. Images are not as sharp as they need to be, and more often than not the images are plagued with annoying artefacts which serve as welcome distractions for the less favourable films in this set. Still, for what they are, and considering their age they look pretty good.
Audio
Each film is presented in Dolby Digital, though not all are given the full 5.1 treatment. The first crop of films sound virtually identical to most films produced in the 50s and 60s. Audio is tinny, often piercing and bass response is practically non-existent. Thankfully, the later generation films sound better (as expected), but in all honestly the sound is still oddly underwhelming. Directional effects are mostly flat, and any bass that comes across the sound range is again not particularly spectacular. Overall, these films sound good, but not as much as they could have done, especially the latter two.

Extras
Let us start from the very first film in this set. On this disc, all you are going to get is a theatrical trailer, and an ugly one at that. There’s no documentary present, no interviews and no commentary – highly disappointing indeed. The second film and disc fares no better either, with yet another ugly-looking theatrical trailer present. The third film, Curse of the Fly has no features at all.
Onto the second generation of films. The 1986 version of The Fly has plenty of features, thankfully. On disc one you get a great commentary from David Cronenberg to whet your appetite. Disc two kicks off with two decent documentaries: ‘Fear of the Flesh’ and ‘The Brundle Museum of Natural History’. There are also several deleted scenes, a small handful of which were quite interesting. The ‘Written Works’ menu contains the full script for the original short story, the screenplay, the rewrite and finally some magazine articles. The disc also includes several film test segments, each about a minute or two in length. Lastly, you get some promotional material such as trailers, TV spots and a still gallery that rounds out the disc.
Disc one of The Fly II contains a director’s commentary. Chris Walas isn’t as good a talker as David Cronenberg, but he still provides an insightful commentary for his drab film. Joining him on this commentary is film historian Bob Burns. Next up is a deleted scene, an alternate ending, and trailers for each film in the entire saga, save for this one, oddly. On disc two we get another two documentaries: ‘Transformations’ and ‘The Buzz on Hollywood’s Scariest Insect’. The latter is a little bias perhaps, but both are reasonably entertaining. Next up there are three featurettes: ‘1989 Theatrical EPK’, ‘CWI Video’ and ‘Composer’s Master Class’. For those that appreciate storyboard to film comparisons, you will no doubt like the variant that appears on this disc. You can select from three scenes, and there is also an option to have director’s commentary on or off. Lastly there are some trailers (which actually does contain the trailer for this film) and a stills gallery.

Overall
If the messages throughout this review have not already become clear, then I will state it more obviously: I cannot, and do not recommend this DVD set, even if film lore if your thing. To be honest, I cannot imagine this set appealing to anyone but the most fussy and avid collectors, and even then it is sure to test their patience. The highlight of the set is Jeff Goldblum’s interpretation of The Fly, and the original 1958 effort still offers plenty of camp entertainment, but the set as a whole inspires very mixed feelings.
This uneven nature also transpires to the audio and video presentation, too. Though things could certainly have been worse, the technical aspects are not particularly impressive or rewarding. Even the extra features contained within this seven disc set create the feeling of monotony, and only the faintest glimmer of hope comes from the 1986 version and its spattering of extras. In all, The Fly boxset is a mixed bag, and one with holes aplenty. Overall, this set is not worth the price of admission.
Review by Benjamin Willcock
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Yes, Curse is in widescreen.
Though speaking of Curse itself, it's kind of silly to call it a 'Fly' since only thing it carries over is the teleporter idea; there are no man-flies in this movie!
Though speaking of Curse itself, it's kind of silly to call it a 'Fly' since only thing it carries over is the teleporter idea; there are no man-flies in this movie!
Is Curse of the Fly available in widescreen? Just curious. I'm not sure that I have ever seen it in widescreen.
Yeah, the teleporter sadly reminds me of those Simpsons head-sets.
sky was showing the originals fly movies in widescreen a while back,i've got the fox 2 dvd set of the newer fly movies,new sets not worth investing in unless the dts track lends something and this will probably be released same as the alien set as 2 disc editions becomming £10 or under in a few months
Yikes, that's one bad review for the case there... :| From those pics in the link above, it doesn’t exactly look the most practical, as you said. I guess it would look cool on its own, just not stacked next to others.
bwstsw2k wrote: jaybro187 wrote: anyone know what the case is like? i.e the build and general feel of it? I want some pics before I purchase epecially after this review. id prob only get it for the first one and the case (if any good)
Sadly I wasn’t able to review the actual case, but from what I've seen it does look pretty nifty. The DVD's themselves are housed in a Star Trek-like digipack, then you just pop that into the plastic container. I don’t know how high quality the plastic molding is, but I'd venture a guess and say pretty good.
And I am afraid I would have to disagree. The entire box is made of SOFT plastics, and is really a pain to handle. The actual box is flimsy, the 'teleporter' box is flimsy...in fact, if I were you, I'd remove the digipak and put it someplace else, because the actual box is far from practical. This thing is a frickin' plastic monster, I'm telling you. The Star Trek season sets at least were made of *hard* plastic and were considerably easier to handle.
And to think, someone complained that getting the discs out of the ST:TOS boxes was painful!
Sadly I wasn’t able to review the actual case, but from what I've seen it does look pretty nifty. The DVD's themselves are housed in a Star Trek-like digipack, then you just pop that into the plastic container. I don’t know how high quality the plastic molding is, but I'd venture a guess and say pretty good.
And I am afraid I would have to disagree. The entire box is made of SOFT plastics, and is really a pain to handle. The actual box is flimsy, the 'teleporter' box is flimsy...in fact, if I were you, I'd remove the digipak and put it someplace else, because the actual box is far from practical. This thing is a frickin' plastic monster, I'm telling you. The Star Trek season sets at least were made of *hard* plastic and were considerably easier to handle.
And to think, someone complained that getting the discs out of the ST:TOS boxes was painful!
Can't bring myself to watch The Fly II because of how depressed the dog thing made me the first time I watched it. Other than that, it wasn't a terrible movie. Just a tiny shadow of Cronenberg's masterpiece. I really love that movie.
Never wanted to see the originals. Saw the trailers and that's plenty for me.
Never wanted to see the originals. Saw the trailers and that's plenty for me.
I love the David Croenberg "The Fly" and "The Fly II" was alright. I own the R1 2-Disc Collector's Editions of those two films and I thought they are great sets. But I have never seen the original ones.
Here you can find some pics of this box:
http://www.dvd.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1414372...
http://www.dvd.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1414372...
jaybro187 wrote: anyone know what the case is like? i.e the build and general feel of it? I want some pics before I purchase epecially after this review. id prob only get it for the first one and the case (if any good)
Sadly I wasn’t able to review the actual case, but from what I've seen it does look pretty nifty. The DVD's themselves are housed in a Star Trek-like digipack, then you just pop that into the plastic container. I don’t know how high quality the plastic molding is, but I'd venture a guess and say pretty good.
Sadly I wasn’t able to review the actual case, but from what I've seen it does look pretty nifty. The DVD's themselves are housed in a Star Trek-like digipack, then you just pop that into the plastic container. I don’t know how high quality the plastic molding is, but I'd venture a guess and say pretty good.
Great review Ben, agree with you totally.
Have to agree witht the review, just seems like a fan based set that will probably not have a general audience/DVD buyer appeal. For what it's worth, Cronenburg's Fly is the standout, and for fans of that film, wait for the 2-disc SE to be released later in the year.
Have to agree witht the review, just seems like a fan based set that will probably not have a general audience/DVD buyer appeal. For what it's worth, Cronenburg's Fly is the standout, and for fans of that film, wait for the 2-disc SE to be released later in the year.
Brad Pitt wrote: are the special features of the david cronenerg's The Fly 1 and 2 identical to the special features of the R1 ones?
Yes, they are.
Yes, they are.
The Fly(1986) is a masterpiece. Its the only film in the set I care for.
are the special features of the david cronenerg's The Fly 1 and 2 identical to the special features of the R1 ones?
anyone know what the case is like? i.e the build and general feel of it? I want some pics before I purchase epecially after this review. id prob only get it for the first one and the case (if any good)
|Yeah...This box set was originally down for release in Australia on May 17 this year....But it got pulled about 2 months ago...Here's hoping that it will finally get a release later this year, although, your review doesn't do this set any favours, I for one still want the Fly movies in my collection..
Dustin wrote: Benjamin... your review breaks my heart as I had high hopes for this set. It's a shame the original three aren't given any love in the extras department. The first one deserves a documentary or commentary at least...
Yeah I thought the 1st would get something, but alas...
Yeah I thought the 1st would get something, but alas...
Benjamin... your review breaks my heart as I had high hopes for this set. It's a shame the original three aren't given any love in the extras department. The first one deserves a documentary or commentary at least...


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Disc Details
Release Date:
29th May 2006
Discs:
7
Disc Type:
Single side, dual layer
RCE:
No
Video:
PAL
Aspect:
Various
Anamorphic:
Yes
Colour:
Yes
Audio:
Dolby Digital 1.0 English, Dolby Digital 5.1 English
Subtitles:
English
Extras:
Commentary Tracks, Making of Features, Deleted Scenes, Trailers, Gallery
Easter Egg:
No
Feature Details
Director:
Various
Cast:
Vincent Price, Herbert Marshall, David Hedison, Brian Donlevy, George Baker, Burt Kwouk, Jeremy Wilkins, Jeff Goldblum, Geena Davis, John Getz, Joy Boushel, George Chuvalo, David Cronenberg, Eric Stoltz, Daphne Zuniga
Genre:
Horror and Sci-Fi
Length:
450 minutes


