Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (UK - DVD R2)
Chris Gould takes a look at the much- maligned fourth instalment of the series
Okay, I'm aware that this film has divided people, so I'll say one thing right off the bat—if you don't agree with the review, by all means comment, but keep it respectful and don't launch into any personal attacks.
Set some twenty-odd years after The Last Crusade, we catch up with Indiana Jones in 1950s America. As usual things aren't going his way, and along with his friend Mac he is currently being held captive by a bunch of nasty Russian agents. Indy is taken to the secret military installation known as Area 51, where he is coerced into identifying a mysterious container by the head of the Russian forces, the cold and calculating Col. Dr. Irina Spalko. In spite of his valiant efforts to resist, Indy is double crossed by Mac and the Russians escape with the contents of the container, leaving Indy to survive the detonation of a nuclear bomb with only a lead-lined refrigerator for protection!

After his miraculous escape, Indy heads back home to Marshall College to discover that he is being investigated by the FBI as a possible communist. Shortly after he is suspended from his teaching post Indy encounters a young 'greaser' named Mutt Williams, who just happens to be the son of his old flame Marion Ravenwood. It seems that Marion has gone and gotten herself kidnapped along with professor Harold Oxley, a mutual friend of both Indy and Marion.
So begins Indiana's latest adventure, as he and Mutt travel to Peru in search of the burial place of the Spanish conquistador Francisco de Orellana, which just might hold the key to unravelling the mystery of Oxley and Marion's disappearance. There they find a strange artefact—a crystal skull unlike anything seen before, possessed of strange magnetic properties. Unfortunately for our luckless heroes, the Russians are right on their tail. Having been captured, they are brought to the Russian camp where they are reunited with a mentally unstable Oxley and the ever-feisty Marion, who has a big surprise for Indy...

There has been a lot of talk about this movie since its release, much of it negative. People felt almost as betrayed by Crystal Skull as they did by the Star Wars prequels, at least if some of the comments I've seen are to be believed. To be honest I can sort of see where they are coming from, as this Indy definitely isn't the one we all fell in love with back in the eighties. However, that is also sort of the point. Time marches on and so has Henry Jones Jr., and it seems unfair to judge the film on a set of criteria decided upon twenty years ago. This time around Indy is supposed to be in his late fifties, so it's entirely reasonable to expect different character traits from the more mature adventurer.
A lot of criticism has been levied at perceived excessive use of CGI, and while there is a fair amount on display most of it is perfectly acceptable. There were only a few of moments where I was taken out of the film by the effects (the monkeys and the ants), but on the whole they do a good job of delivering set-pieces that would otherwise have been incredibly difficult or even impossible. Admittedly I did find one or two set-pieces a little far-fetched, such as Mutt's Tarzan adventure and the whole 'nuked the fridge' episode, but on the second or third viewing they didn’t even phase me. Another big criticism relates to the decision to go with a science-fiction theme, rather than the more familiar religious themes running through the previous instalments. I for one see this as a natural progression for the character and a logical choice given the time period he finds himself in.

Personally I've had enough of all the negative stuff and I'd like to concentrate on the film's positive aspects. Firstly, and most importantly, Harrison Ford still has it. When I saw on-set images of the actor looking, shall we say, a little worse for wear (although let's face it, a lot better than I'm going to look in my 60s—hell, even now), I was concerned that too much time had passed to allow Ford to convincingly portray an action hero. I needn't of worried, because like Sean Connery before him Ford is able to pull off the action just as well as men half his age, and with twice the charisma.
The action itself is still as outrageously over the top as it ever was. From the opening set-piece at Area 51, to the jungle chase complete with perilous cliff-top confrontations, Spielberg and his creative team have delivered excitement to match anything in the previous films. As mentioned, a few of the stunts stretch the bounds of believability just that little bit too far, but is this really any different to some of the events in the original films? Temple of Doom had our hero dropping out of a plane on a rubber dinghy and stopping a runaway mine cart with his feet for God's sake. Then there was the fighter plane in the tunnel...

The film also has its share of humorous moments, with great throwaway lines such as 'what are you, like eighty?' (Mutt to Indy) raising a smile. Indy wrestling with a giant 'rope' (you'll have to watch the film) is a particular highlight and a welcome nod to the original Raiders of the Lost Ark. The top and bottom of it is that I'll take Indy firing on less than all cylinders over any of your National Treasures or Saharas any day. Sure it's self-referential and relies somewhat on the audience's nostalgia for previous instalments, but no more so than any other film in a successful series. Personally I like that it's familiar; that’s what I want from an Indiana Jones film.
Presented in 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull looks decent enough, but it's some way off of reference quality. It's a tricky one to judge, because now I've moved on to Blu-ray I've been spoiled by the superior resolution and colour rendition and up-converting a 576i image to 1080p is never going to give perfect results. Even so I think the overall look of the film is less impressive than most recent features. However, I've tried to take the fact that I’m watching SD material on an HD display into consideration when assessing the quality of the transfer.

I've not had a chance to look at the Blu-ray release yet, but to me the colour rendition on this DVD release appears to be slightly off. Flesh tones are just that little bit too saturated, and there's a brownish-golden hue to the image that, while present theatrically, seems to be more prominent here. The image is also quite soft, even taking the up-conversion to 1080p into account. With that said, the transfer is very clean and I didn't spot any obvious digital nastiness, even after going so far as to apply 4x zoom to search for signs of edge enhancement. Black levels are also satisfyingly deep and shadow detail is surprisingly good.
All things considered the transfer is better than I initially thought it to be, but I actually find the appearance of the original trilogy slightly more appealing. Whether that's to do with the quality of the transfer to DVD or as a result of the filmmaking process itself is open to debate.

Paramount delivers a solid Dolby Digital 5.1 audio track for this release, although once again I've been spoiled by the superior fidelity of HD audio in the last year or so. Having said that, and despite some reservations during the opening scenes of the film, I became increasingly impressed by the quality of the standard definition track as the film progressed. By the time Indy is merrily destroying half of Area 51 as he attempts to escape from the Russians the audio had kicked up a notch, really pulling me into the action.
The warehouse scene is actually a pretty good example to use when highlighting the quality of the track. When Indy crashes through a pile of crates, wooden splinters fly from left to right, accompanied by the anguished scream of a hapless Russian soldier in the rears and a solid thud from the LFE channel. Bass is actually extremely powerful on occasion, with every gunshot and whip crack sounding just as good as they did all those years ago (kudos to sound effects wizard Ben Burtt). Of course it wouldn't be an Indiana Jones film without a John Williams score, which sounds fantastic whether you're listening to new cues written specifically for the film, or old favourites like the Raiders March. Thankfully dialogue is isn't lost amongst the effects, and is in fact balanced nicely in the mix. I may have been spoiled by HD audio, but by DVD standards this is a great track, if not quite up there with the very best.

'The Return of a Legend' (17:36) features Spielberg talking at length about the circumstances that led to the creation of another Indiana Jones movie. Ford pops up once or twice to talk about the process, as do George Lucas, Karen Allen and Shia LeBeouf. Although not particularly in-depth, there is some brief discussion of the various script revisions and ideas, along with the various titles under consideration (be thankful we didn't get 'Saucer Men' or 'Attack of the Giant Ants').
'Pre-Production' (11.46) starts with pre-viz in 2007 and moves through photography, costume design, casting, training and working relationships. It's all pretty fluffy, but there are one or two interesting bits to be found, although it could all have been covered as part of larger 'Making of' documentary.

Speaking of which, the Production Diary: The Making of The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull' (01:20:20) can be viewed as either one long documentary or in five separate parts. The diary takes the viewer from the first day of shooting through to post-production, with pretty much everything in between. Spielberg is a constant presence, and even Lucas shows up a little more often than he usually does. There is interview footage with the principal cast, who relate their experiences of working on the film, while the technical wizards actually responsible for costuming, filming, editing and every other facet all get a look in. It's not the most in-depth feature of its type that I've ever seen, but it goes a long way beyond the sort of promotional rubbish that passes for a 'making of' on most DVDs these days.
'Warrior Makeup' (05:36) details the creation of the makeup effects for the ancient warriors. Head of makeup Felicity Bowring takes us through the arduous process of creating and applying the complex makeup and prosthetic keloid scars.

'The Crystal Skulls' (10:12) deals with the fabled crystal skulls themselves. Spielberg, Lucas and others talk about the different skulls found across the world and the belief that they may be alien in origin. Lucas explains how this anchoring in 'reality' shaped the storyline to a degree. There's also behind-the-scenes footage of the creation of the skulls and the alien 'greys' and giant crystal skeletons.
'Iconic Props' (10:02) goes behind the scenes with the property master as he takes us through the various swords, armour, Area 51 artefacts and other weird and wonderful props used in the film. This sort of thing is always interesting, but I wish it had been a bit longer and covered some of the previous movies, although I'm guessing we'll eventually see something like that when the whole saga is released in one big boxed set.

'The Effects of Indy' (22.44) details the various visual effects techniques used to bring the action to life, from practical miniatures and compositing to ILM's digital work. It was nice to see how the effects were created, and especially interesting to see how much of the work was actually digital and how much was merely enhanced with CGI.
'Adventures in Post-Production' (12:46) deals with the tasks of editing, sound design and scoring. Spielberg sets a lot of the introductions up, and there are interviews with Ben Burtt (who named his son Benny Burtt, if you can believe it) and John Williams among others. The featurette mostly concentrates on the audio elements of pre-production, mostly likely because the other stuff is covered in greater detail elsewhere.
‘Closing: Team Indy’ (03:43) is a short little featurette that basically name checks virtually everyone who worked on the film. This is followed by three computer generated ‘Pre-Visualization Sequences’ with a combined running time of around thirteen minutes. Things are rounded off by a series of five still galleries and three trailers.

I’m not claiming that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is a masterpiece, or even that it lives up to the standards set by the original film (it doesn’t, but let’s face it, neither did the other sequels). No, for me it’s an enjoyable way to spend some time in the company of an old friend. In fact, it’s one of the only films I’ve seen twice at the cinema this year—I liked it more the second time I saw it and I still like it after my third viewing.
As for the DVD, well the A/V presentation is good and the extras are solid, although much of the content is in danger of repeating material covered in the 'Production Diary'. If only Spielberg had relented and recorded a commentary track, we could have had something truly special on or hands. As it stands, this is a competent release that offers an enjoyable viewing experience. I don't have a problem recommending this one to fans of the series or those in search of a decent film to while away a couple of hours.
Feature
Set some twenty-odd years after The Last Crusade, we catch up with Indiana Jones in 1950s America. As usual things aren't going his way, and along with his friend Mac he is currently being held captive by a bunch of nasty Russian agents. Indy is taken to the secret military installation known as Area 51, where he is coerced into identifying a mysterious container by the head of the Russian forces, the cold and calculating Col. Dr. Irina Spalko. In spite of his valiant efforts to resist, Indy is double crossed by Mac and the Russians escape with the contents of the container, leaving Indy to survive the detonation of a nuclear bomb with only a lead-lined refrigerator for protection!

After his miraculous escape, Indy heads back home to Marshall College to discover that he is being investigated by the FBI as a possible communist. Shortly after he is suspended from his teaching post Indy encounters a young 'greaser' named Mutt Williams, who just happens to be the son of his old flame Marion Ravenwood. It seems that Marion has gone and gotten herself kidnapped along with professor Harold Oxley, a mutual friend of both Indy and Marion.
So begins Indiana's latest adventure, as he and Mutt travel to Peru in search of the burial place of the Spanish conquistador Francisco de Orellana, which just might hold the key to unravelling the mystery of Oxley and Marion's disappearance. There they find a strange artefact—a crystal skull unlike anything seen before, possessed of strange magnetic properties. Unfortunately for our luckless heroes, the Russians are right on their tail. Having been captured, they are brought to the Russian camp where they are reunited with a mentally unstable Oxley and the ever-feisty Marion, who has a big surprise for Indy...

There has been a lot of talk about this movie since its release, much of it negative. People felt almost as betrayed by Crystal Skull as they did by the Star Wars prequels, at least if some of the comments I've seen are to be believed. To be honest I can sort of see where they are coming from, as this Indy definitely isn't the one we all fell in love with back in the eighties. However, that is also sort of the point. Time marches on and so has Henry Jones Jr., and it seems unfair to judge the film on a set of criteria decided upon twenty years ago. This time around Indy is supposed to be in his late fifties, so it's entirely reasonable to expect different character traits from the more mature adventurer.
A lot of criticism has been levied at perceived excessive use of CGI, and while there is a fair amount on display most of it is perfectly acceptable. There were only a few of moments where I was taken out of the film by the effects (the monkeys and the ants), but on the whole they do a good job of delivering set-pieces that would otherwise have been incredibly difficult or even impossible. Admittedly I did find one or two set-pieces a little far-fetched, such as Mutt's Tarzan adventure and the whole 'nuked the fridge' episode, but on the second or third viewing they didn’t even phase me. Another big criticism relates to the decision to go with a science-fiction theme, rather than the more familiar religious themes running through the previous instalments. I for one see this as a natural progression for the character and a logical choice given the time period he finds himself in.

Personally I've had enough of all the negative stuff and I'd like to concentrate on the film's positive aspects. Firstly, and most importantly, Harrison Ford still has it. When I saw on-set images of the actor looking, shall we say, a little worse for wear (although let's face it, a lot better than I'm going to look in my 60s—hell, even now), I was concerned that too much time had passed to allow Ford to convincingly portray an action hero. I needn't of worried, because like Sean Connery before him Ford is able to pull off the action just as well as men half his age, and with twice the charisma.
The action itself is still as outrageously over the top as it ever was. From the opening set-piece at Area 51, to the jungle chase complete with perilous cliff-top confrontations, Spielberg and his creative team have delivered excitement to match anything in the previous films. As mentioned, a few of the stunts stretch the bounds of believability just that little bit too far, but is this really any different to some of the events in the original films? Temple of Doom had our hero dropping out of a plane on a rubber dinghy and stopping a runaway mine cart with his feet for God's sake. Then there was the fighter plane in the tunnel...

The film also has its share of humorous moments, with great throwaway lines such as 'what are you, like eighty?' (Mutt to Indy) raising a smile. Indy wrestling with a giant 'rope' (you'll have to watch the film) is a particular highlight and a welcome nod to the original Raiders of the Lost Ark. The top and bottom of it is that I'll take Indy firing on less than all cylinders over any of your National Treasures or Saharas any day. Sure it's self-referential and relies somewhat on the audience's nostalgia for previous instalments, but no more so than any other film in a successful series. Personally I like that it's familiar; that’s what I want from an Indiana Jones film.
Video
Presented in 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull looks decent enough, but it's some way off of reference quality. It's a tricky one to judge, because now I've moved on to Blu-ray I've been spoiled by the superior resolution and colour rendition and up-converting a 576i image to 1080p is never going to give perfect results. Even so I think the overall look of the film is less impressive than most recent features. However, I've tried to take the fact that I’m watching SD material on an HD display into consideration when assessing the quality of the transfer.

I've not had a chance to look at the Blu-ray release yet, but to me the colour rendition on this DVD release appears to be slightly off. Flesh tones are just that little bit too saturated, and there's a brownish-golden hue to the image that, while present theatrically, seems to be more prominent here. The image is also quite soft, even taking the up-conversion to 1080p into account. With that said, the transfer is very clean and I didn't spot any obvious digital nastiness, even after going so far as to apply 4x zoom to search for signs of edge enhancement. Black levels are also satisfyingly deep and shadow detail is surprisingly good.
All things considered the transfer is better than I initially thought it to be, but I actually find the appearance of the original trilogy slightly more appealing. Whether that's to do with the quality of the transfer to DVD or as a result of the filmmaking process itself is open to debate.

Audio
Paramount delivers a solid Dolby Digital 5.1 audio track for this release, although once again I've been spoiled by the superior fidelity of HD audio in the last year or so. Having said that, and despite some reservations during the opening scenes of the film, I became increasingly impressed by the quality of the standard definition track as the film progressed. By the time Indy is merrily destroying half of Area 51 as he attempts to escape from the Russians the audio had kicked up a notch, really pulling me into the action.
The warehouse scene is actually a pretty good example to use when highlighting the quality of the track. When Indy crashes through a pile of crates, wooden splinters fly from left to right, accompanied by the anguished scream of a hapless Russian soldier in the rears and a solid thud from the LFE channel. Bass is actually extremely powerful on occasion, with every gunshot and whip crack sounding just as good as they did all those years ago (kudos to sound effects wizard Ben Burtt). Of course it wouldn't be an Indiana Jones film without a John Williams score, which sounds fantastic whether you're listening to new cues written specifically for the film, or old favourites like the Raiders March. Thankfully dialogue is isn't lost amongst the effects, and is in fact balanced nicely in the mix. I may have been spoiled by HD audio, but by DVD standards this is a great track, if not quite up there with the very best.

Extras
'The Return of a Legend' (17:36) features Spielberg talking at length about the circumstances that led to the creation of another Indiana Jones movie. Ford pops up once or twice to talk about the process, as do George Lucas, Karen Allen and Shia LeBeouf. Although not particularly in-depth, there is some brief discussion of the various script revisions and ideas, along with the various titles under consideration (be thankful we didn't get 'Saucer Men' or 'Attack of the Giant Ants').
'Pre-Production' (11.46) starts with pre-viz in 2007 and moves through photography, costume design, casting, training and working relationships. It's all pretty fluffy, but there are one or two interesting bits to be found, although it could all have been covered as part of larger 'Making of' documentary.

Speaking of which, the Production Diary: The Making of The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull' (01:20:20) can be viewed as either one long documentary or in five separate parts. The diary takes the viewer from the first day of shooting through to post-production, with pretty much everything in between. Spielberg is a constant presence, and even Lucas shows up a little more often than he usually does. There is interview footage with the principal cast, who relate their experiences of working on the film, while the technical wizards actually responsible for costuming, filming, editing and every other facet all get a look in. It's not the most in-depth feature of its type that I've ever seen, but it goes a long way beyond the sort of promotional rubbish that passes for a 'making of' on most DVDs these days.
'Warrior Makeup' (05:36) details the creation of the makeup effects for the ancient warriors. Head of makeup Felicity Bowring takes us through the arduous process of creating and applying the complex makeup and prosthetic keloid scars.

'The Crystal Skulls' (10:12) deals with the fabled crystal skulls themselves. Spielberg, Lucas and others talk about the different skulls found across the world and the belief that they may be alien in origin. Lucas explains how this anchoring in 'reality' shaped the storyline to a degree. There's also behind-the-scenes footage of the creation of the skulls and the alien 'greys' and giant crystal skeletons.
'Iconic Props' (10:02) goes behind the scenes with the property master as he takes us through the various swords, armour, Area 51 artefacts and other weird and wonderful props used in the film. This sort of thing is always interesting, but I wish it had been a bit longer and covered some of the previous movies, although I'm guessing we'll eventually see something like that when the whole saga is released in one big boxed set.

'The Effects of Indy' (22.44) details the various visual effects techniques used to bring the action to life, from practical miniatures and compositing to ILM's digital work. It was nice to see how the effects were created, and especially interesting to see how much of the work was actually digital and how much was merely enhanced with CGI.
'Adventures in Post-Production' (12:46) deals with the tasks of editing, sound design and scoring. Spielberg sets a lot of the introductions up, and there are interviews with Ben Burtt (who named his son Benny Burtt, if you can believe it) and John Williams among others. The featurette mostly concentrates on the audio elements of pre-production, mostly likely because the other stuff is covered in greater detail elsewhere.
‘Closing: Team Indy’ (03:43) is a short little featurette that basically name checks virtually everyone who worked on the film. This is followed by three computer generated ‘Pre-Visualization Sequences’ with a combined running time of around thirteen minutes. Things are rounded off by a series of five still galleries and three trailers.

Overall
I’m not claiming that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is a masterpiece, or even that it lives up to the standards set by the original film (it doesn’t, but let’s face it, neither did the other sequels). No, for me it’s an enjoyable way to spend some time in the company of an old friend. In fact, it’s one of the only films I’ve seen twice at the cinema this year—I liked it more the second time I saw it and I still like it after my third viewing.
As for the DVD, well the A/V presentation is good and the extras are solid, although much of the content is in danger of repeating material covered in the 'Production Diary'. If only Spielberg had relented and recorded a commentary track, we could have had something truly special on or hands. As it stands, this is a competent release that offers an enjoyable viewing experience. I don't have a problem recommending this one to fans of the series or those in search of a decent film to while away a couple of hours.
Review by Chris Gould
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Actually it's not a valid one. As long as I'm coming down on a movie, and not another poster around here (which is exactly what HE is doing, by the way), what difference does it make?
The point he was making - and it's a valid one - is that you are one of those people that seems to relish posting the same contradictory, negative comments about films (particularly this one) over and over again without bringing anything new to the discussion. You may think you have the freedom to do so, but that freedom is largely illusionary.
Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: Da B-Meister wrote: We get it, you don't like it if someone expresses an opinion that disagrees with yours. Move on.
Not at all actually. I'm the first person to say that this one lacked a certain magic that is present in the original three. And the writing was very sub-par as you pointed out. Also I'd agree that Karen Allen's performance was particularly weak.
That being said, I did enjoy the film, however, I am aware people didn't (you being a prime example). I don't really care if they/you thought it was bad, and they/you have every right to say so (just as those who enjoyed the film have to say so). But my point was, you've said you didn't like it, nothing anyone said warranted another post saying how awful it was, and it would appear that it’s you who can’t stand when someone disagrees with you.
So whatever, if you want to copy/paste this and then “throw it back at me”, go ahead. I’ve made my point, I’m done.
Thankfully we don't live under a dictatorship or communism.....and since we don't, I can freely comment on whether I hated a movie or not if I please and as often as I please. You seem to have a problem with that, and whoopee for you. Your only point is that you have no point, other than being tired of hearing my disdain for the movie. Stop focusing on me and go post in another thread.
Not at all actually. I'm the first person to say that this one lacked a certain magic that is present in the original three. And the writing was very sub-par as you pointed out. Also I'd agree that Karen Allen's performance was particularly weak.
That being said, I did enjoy the film, however, I am aware people didn't (you being a prime example). I don't really care if they/you thought it was bad, and they/you have every right to say so (just as those who enjoyed the film have to say so). But my point was, you've said you didn't like it, nothing anyone said warranted another post saying how awful it was, and it would appear that it’s you who can’t stand when someone disagrees with you.
So whatever, if you want to copy/paste this and then “throw it back at me”, go ahead. I’ve made my point, I’m done.
Thankfully we don't live under a dictatorship or communism.....and since we don't, I can freely comment on whether I hated a movie or not if I please and as often as I please. You seem to have a problem with that, and whoopee for you. Your only point is that you have no point, other than being tired of hearing my disdain for the movie. Stop focusing on me and go post in another thread.
Da B-Meister wrote: We get it, you don't like it if someone expresses an opinion that disagrees with yours. Move on.
Not at all actually. I'm the first person to say that this one lacked a certain magic that is present in the original three. And the writing was very sub-par as you pointed out. Also I'd agree that Karen Allen's performance was particularly weak.
That being said, I did enjoy the film, however, I am aware people didn't (you being a prime example). I don't really care if they/you thought it was bad, and they/you have every right to say so (just as those who enjoyed the film have to say so). But my point was, you've said you didn't like it, nothing anyone said warranted another post saying how awful it was, and it would appear that it’s you who can’t stand when someone disagrees with you.
So whatever, if you want to copy/paste this and then “throw it back at me”, go ahead. I’ve made my point, I’m done.
Nice review by the way Chris. It’s a shame the video quality isn’t that great, and surprising given that Spielberg/Lucas are constantly trying to make things look as good as they can be (digital cinema, special editions, etc.). Although I would expect it from an Indy flick, perhaps as a sort of throwback to the old Sci-Fi B movie colours, where the flesh tones were over-saturated (along with everything else). Although the originals didn't really throwback to the 30s... So there's a flaw in my theory, or at least if you were to apply it to the other films.
Or is it all a conspiracy for people to upgrade to Blu? Dun dun dunnnnnnnn...
Not at all actually. I'm the first person to say that this one lacked a certain magic that is present in the original three. And the writing was very sub-par as you pointed out. Also I'd agree that Karen Allen's performance was particularly weak.
That being said, I did enjoy the film, however, I am aware people didn't (you being a prime example). I don't really care if they/you thought it was bad, and they/you have every right to say so (just as those who enjoyed the film have to say so). But my point was, you've said you didn't like it, nothing anyone said warranted another post saying how awful it was, and it would appear that it’s you who can’t stand when someone disagrees with you.
So whatever, if you want to copy/paste this and then “throw it back at me”, go ahead. I’ve made my point, I’m done.
Nice review by the way Chris. It’s a shame the video quality isn’t that great, and surprising given that Spielberg/Lucas are constantly trying to make things look as good as they can be (digital cinema, special editions, etc.). Although I would expect it from an Indy flick, perhaps as a sort of throwback to the old Sci-Fi B movie colours, where the flesh tones were over-saturated (along with everything else). Although the originals didn't really throwback to the 30s... So there's a flaw in my theory, or at least if you were to apply it to the other films.
Or is it all a conspiracy for people to upgrade to Blu? Dun dun dunnnnnnnn...
That's a VERY interesting point about the poor picture quality of recent SD DVD releases.
I've been watching the SD Iron Man DVD and I'm very disappointed with the picture quality. It's excessively grainy, yet oddly the image is soft. The colour is also quite subdued. Overall, it's mediocre at best.
Yet, the Blu-ray image has been generally highly regarded.
Mmmmmm....
I've been watching the SD Iron Man DVD and I'm very disappointed with the picture quality. It's excessively grainy, yet oddly the image is soft. The colour is also quite subdued. Overall, it's mediocre at best.
Yet, the Blu-ray image has been generally highly regarded.
Mmmmmm....
We get it, you don't like it if someone expresses an opinion that disagrees with yours. Move on.
We get it, you hate it, like every other movie. Move on.
triply wrote: Nice review Chris. I enjoyed this one for what it was. I was never much of an Indy fan, though I have seen all of them. In fact, I watched Raiders again just before watching this one and I was actually pretty disappointed with it. Imagine my shock when it was voted the 2nd greatest movie of all time by Empire! This one was enjoyable and I really don't mind cg, as long as it is well done.
It's neither fun nor interesting....that's part of what makes it such an awful movie.
It's neither fun nor interesting....that's part of what makes it such an awful movie.
I felt let down by this one and found the Sci Fi side a bit wrong...
Strange because I can accept the religous overtones of the originals - maybe it's because they were better written.
Strange because I can accept the religous overtones of the originals - maybe it's because they were better written.
great review, I too think of it as seeing and old friend again, I just had a fun time with it
"Because Connery told them to p1ss off - the simple joys a screenwriter can have by using "find and replace" on Word…"
I doubt Connery was ever intended for anything more than a cameo. For one, Henry Sr. would've been far too old to accompany Indy on another adventure.
A cameo is all he had in the original 1995 script (IJ and the Saucermen from Mars) and the 2003 Frank Darabont script (IJ and the City of Gods). (The latter featured both Henry Sr. and the character of Professor Oxley.)
I doubt Connery was ever intended for anything more than a cameo. For one, Henry Sr. would've been far too old to accompany Indy on another adventure.
A cameo is all he had in the original 1995 script (IJ and the Saucermen from Mars) and the 2003 Frank Darabont script (IJ and the City of Gods). (The latter featured both Henry Sr. and the character of Professor Oxley.)
I don't get why some people who hate this one...just don't get it. Moneywise, it made almost as much in the US as Iron Man, a film "everybody" supposedly "loved"...
This film was a lot of fun on its own.
This film was a lot of fun on its own.
A Conn-job
Wilson Bros wrote: Venom33 wrote: a great supporting cast was wasted. WTF was up with John Hurt's character?
Because Connery told them to p1ss off - the simple joys a screenwriter can have by using "find and replace" on Word…
Suspicions have been aroused by a number of others that the SD image seems to be of noticeably lesser quality than a lot of big-budget movies these days?
In order to push Blu-Ray - and George Lucas is one of the biggest advocates of all things digital - it seems the image has been downgraded in order to help convert those who haven't yet.
We thought the same thing about Warner's R2 edition of Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix.
THE WILSON BROS.
It has to be said that the last potter DVD had an atrocious transfer on standard DVD, yet the HD-DVD version was pristine.
Because Connery told them to p1ss off - the simple joys a screenwriter can have by using "find and replace" on Word…
Suspicions have been aroused by a number of others that the SD image seems to be of noticeably lesser quality than a lot of big-budget movies these days?
In order to push Blu-Ray - and George Lucas is one of the biggest advocates of all things digital - it seems the image has been downgraded in order to help convert those who haven't yet.
We thought the same thing about Warner's R2 edition of Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix.
THE WILSON BROS.
It has to be said that the last potter DVD had an atrocious transfer on standard DVD, yet the HD-DVD version was pristine.
I don't think it has anything to do with Lucas. That bloke gets blamed for everything. I don't watch that many SD titles now, but this looks better on an SD display than HD, so it's possible some of the problems I saw came from remapping an SD image to 1080p.
A Conn-job
Venom33 wrote: a great supporting cast was wasted. WTF was up with John Hurt's character?
Because Connery told them to p1ss off - the simple joys a screenwriter can have by using "find and replace" on Word…
Suspicions have been aroused by a number of others that the SD image seems to be of noticeably lesser quality than a lot of big-budget movies these days?
In order to push Blu-Ray - and George Lucas is one of the biggest advocates of all things digital - it seems the image has been downgraded in order to help convert those who haven't yet.
We thought the same thing about Warner's R2 edition of Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix.
THE WILSON BROS.
Because Connery told them to p1ss off - the simple joys a screenwriter can have by using "find and replace" on Word…
Suspicions have been aroused by a number of others that the SD image seems to be of noticeably lesser quality than a lot of big-budget movies these days?
In order to push Blu-Ray - and George Lucas is one of the biggest advocates of all things digital - it seems the image has been downgraded in order to help convert those who haven't yet.
We thought the same thing about Warner's R2 edition of Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix.
THE WILSON BROS.
Nice review Chris. I enjoyed this one for what it was. I was never much of an Indy fan, though I have seen all of them. In fact, I watched Raiders again just before watching this one and I was actually pretty disappointed with it. Imagine my shock when it was voted the 2nd greatest movie of all time by Empire! This one was enjoyable and I really don't mind cg, as long as it is well done.
plain and simple, this is a good movie. for the genre it falls into, its really quite fun and interesting. the audience for this film is not present today, its people who grew up with Indy who appreciate this the most. i personally loved it.
I also thought it was a lot of fun, and a big part of the appeal (for me at least) was that it remained very true to its pulp origins.
Shia was surprisingly good as Mutt, and you can see that in the way he wasn't completely torn apart- even by the film's harshest critics. I know I certainly wanted to hate him prior to the film's release, but he managed to win me over.
Perhaps even more surprising is the backlash that Cate's Irina Spalko generated. Do people really think that a stereotypical, hammy villain seems out of place in an Indiana Jones film? (See also: Mola Ram; Colonel Vogel; etc.)
Overall, this gave me the same old-fashioned kick that I felt back in 1984 and 1989. And truthfully, that's all I really wanted from another Indy sequel.
Shia was surprisingly good as Mutt, and you can see that in the way he wasn't completely torn apart- even by the film's harshest critics. I know I certainly wanted to hate him prior to the film's release, but he managed to win me over.
Perhaps even more surprising is the backlash that Cate's Irina Spalko generated. Do people really think that a stereotypical, hammy villain seems out of place in an Indiana Jones film? (See also: Mola Ram; Colonel Vogel; etc.)
Overall, this gave me the same old-fashioned kick that I felt back in 1984 and 1989. And truthfully, that's all I really wanted from another Indy sequel.
This movie was just dumb.
1. The plot was lame, hardly made any sense, and was just uninteresting.
2. The villain was hammy and lame
3. the action scenes were lame and silly instead of exciting and entertaining
4. a great supporting cast was wasted. WTF was up with John Hurt's character?
5. The ending was just WTF!
It was just a completely mediocre and forgettable movie. I actually enjoyed The first two Mummy films and National Treasure films better and have no shame in saying that. Those films were actually more exciting and captured the spirit of the Indiana Jones films better than this meandering, stupid film did. In fact, there were scenes that actually felt they had been ripped off from the Mummy! The red ants scene felt exactly like the scarab scenes and Mac's fate at the end is exactly like Beni's fate as well as the shrinking temple felt like the end of the Mummy Returns. An actual Indiana Jones film has to rip off an Indy knock off film?
I really wish it wasn't so dissapointing, but I can't deny it. This is Spielberg's Lost World: Jurassic Park of the 21st Century. Like that film, he seemed to make it simply because of popular demand and not with any real passion, if he did, there's no way this movie would have turned out so sloppy.
1. The plot was lame, hardly made any sense, and was just uninteresting.
2. The villain was hammy and lame
3. the action scenes were lame and silly instead of exciting and entertaining
4. a great supporting cast was wasted. WTF was up with John Hurt's character?
5. The ending was just WTF!
It was just a completely mediocre and forgettable movie. I actually enjoyed The first two Mummy films and National Treasure films better and have no shame in saying that. Those films were actually more exciting and captured the spirit of the Indiana Jones films better than this meandering, stupid film did. In fact, there were scenes that actually felt they had been ripped off from the Mummy! The red ants scene felt exactly like the scarab scenes and Mac's fate at the end is exactly like Beni's fate as well as the shrinking temple felt like the end of the Mummy Returns. An actual Indiana Jones film has to rip off an Indy knock off film?
I really wish it wasn't so dissapointing, but I can't deny it. This is Spielberg's Lost World: Jurassic Park of the 21st Century. Like that film, he seemed to make it simply because of popular demand and not with any real passion, if he did, there's no way this movie would have turned out so sloppy.
either this movie was so boring to me (i've never seen the other 3)
or on tuesday night i was so tired...
lol
i think just a bit of both
or on tuesday night i was so tired...
lol
i think just a bit of both

I think the recent South Park episode did a pretty good job of vilifying the morons who liken this film to being raped (although I'm sure they actually thought it was supporting their view). Some people can't let go of the past. Yeah, let's have a 60 year old Indy running around wisecracking like a 20-something, that won't be stupid. Times moves on, but it would appear that some people can't.
while a good movie, i'll never understand the high praise and pedestal that Raiders gets placed on. i cant count how often i've seen people call it a "perfect" movie. its no wonder so many didnt like the new one. this is exactly like star wars, the uber fans place those movies so high nothing will ever be good enough and they're blinded by their love of the old movie so they cant judge properly.
Raiders was once my favorite movie of all time, i literally went to see it in theaters over 20 times back in the day, sure i was just 4yrs old but yeah....and even with all that, i still dont think its that great and awesome. its good but man...some people. lol
as for this movie, my copy should be arriving tomorrow so yay. i liked it fine, but of course the nerds will make a billion excuses as to why i did.
Raiders was once my favorite movie of all time, i literally went to see it in theaters over 20 times back in the day, sure i was just 4yrs old but yeah....and even with all that, i still dont think its that great and awesome. its good but man...some people. lol
as for this movie, my copy should be arriving tomorrow so yay. i liked it fine, but of course the nerds will make a billion excuses as to why i did.

A pretty fair review Chris.I was not a huge fan of either sequel..though the Connery entry was better to me than the Temple flick.This latest film gave me exactly what I was expecting and it was an enjoyable couple of hours.I particularly liked your comment about "spending some time with a old friend"...That's how this Indy film struck me....and after all,how mad can you get at a old friend?
It absolutely is "as bad as some say".....and probably is even worse. This was a ridiculously bad, poorly-written, insultingly cartoony kind of a movie. Nowhere even close to "Raiders" or any of its other sequels for that matter. Turning Indy into a dottering old fuddy-duddy fart was not a good idea. Nor was Karen Allen's atrociously bad acting. Couldn't she have even re-watched "Raiders" to get her character down again? No real sense of danger or adventure. No humor that worked. We deserved a heck of a lot better than this mess.
Just watched the Blu-ray on Tuesday. Felt it was better than Temple of Doom, but stil have to put Raiders and The Last Crusade ahead, overall. Surprisingly, Shia LeBeouf didn't annoy me nearly as much in this, as he did in Transformers. Enjoyed all of the references and nods to the previous films, character-wise and musically.
I agree with the review. No-where near as bad as some say.


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Disc Details
Release Date:
10th November 2008
Discs:
2
Disc Type:
Single side, dual layer
RCE:
No
Video:
PAL
Aspect:
2.35:1
Anamorphic:
Yes
Colour:
Yes
Audio:
Dolby Digital 5.1 English
Subtitles:
Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish,
Extras:
The Return of a Legend, Pre-Production, Production Diary: Making Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Warrior Makeup, The Crystal Skulls, Iconic Props, The Effects of Indy, Adventures in Post Production, Closing: Team Indy, Pre-Visualization Sequences, Galleries, Trailers
Easter Egg:
No
Feature Details
Director:
Steven Spielberg
Cast:
Harrison Ford, Cate Blanchett, Karen Allen, Shia LaBeouf, Ray Winstone, John Hurt, Jim Broadbent
Genre:
Action, Adventure, Fantasy and Sci-Fi
Length:
118 minutes
Ratings
Amazon.com
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