Iron Man (US - BD)
Gabe takes a second look at the metal hero, comes to the same conclusions
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Billionaire playboy industrialist Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) is a billionaire, a playboy, and an industrialist. All that’s cool except for the ‘military’ precursor I forgot to stick in front of ‘industrialist’, which kind of jibes with the ‘carefree’ I forgot to stick in front of ‘playboy’. When his war machines are used against him, and he’s kidnapped by a terrorist group and forced to make them weapons of mass destruction, it’s time to re-evaluate life. Instead of making a missile, Stark uses his time and supplies to make a suit of armour that helps him to escape his captors. Back in the states Stark tries to go back to his normal life, but he finds that his morals have changed, and pretty soon he’s finding ways to improve on that original suit of armour.

Superhero movies continued to dominate the box office in 2008 in an even bigger way then they ever had before. The crop would’ve been unheard of only five years ago—a reboot of the generally disappointing (box office wise) 2003 film ( The Incredible Hulk), a sequel to one of the most unexpected superhero adaptations ever ( Hellboy II), a sequel to another reboot with exceedingly adult overtones ( The Dark Knight), and an adaptation of a second tier Marvel hero with minimal name recognition ( Iron Man). Dark Knight was the critical winner, and its box office take has been almost unprecedented, but Iron Man’s runner-up status is nothing to sneeze at.
Besides a general lack of character recognition on the part of Joe Public, Iron Man had to overcome the fact that he was and is really just a richer and less angst-ridden version of Batman. Unlike that cruddy Marvel Animated version of the character, these filmmakers downplay the Bruce Wayne-isms, and even make Tony Stark out as a bit of an anti-Batman in personality. Unlike this summer’s Dark Knight, Stark actually has a sense of humour, and wins without invoking fascist electronic devices.

So much of Stark’s lovability, and in turn the film’s success, is in the casting. Robert Downey Jr.’s name was inspired from day one, and he didn’t disappoint (I think fan favourite Tome Cruise could’ve pulled it off, but it wouldn’t have been as interesting). Downey Jr.’s performance isn’t exactly a stretch for the oft-wry and sarcastic actor, whose agelessness is really put to the test with such a physical role, but his charms are rather infallible. Without Stark’s humour and quirk (which are there in the original character) Iron Man would’ve been dead in the water, and with Downey Jr. a good movie becomes almost great.
I say almost great because beyond the good humour, the script and direction are pretty average. Director John Favreau is known for his comic timing, and his comic timing does not fail him here (he actually sells quite a few gags that George Lucas would’ve fumbled painfully), but his control of action is occasionally suspect. I wouldn’t say the action is lacking in entertainment value, or even confusing in its geography (a common problem for young directors these days), and I even commend Favreau for keeping the close-ups and shaky camera movements to a minimum, but he doesn’t bring anything exciting to the equation beyond his sense of humour (the suit testing scenes are very, very funny). I think that we as an audience can be optimistic of what can be expected from Favs in the future, because his learning curve appears to be sharper than most Ginsu knives, but there is a slight sense of learning in process to the film’s look and feel. Favreau’s comedy has an unmistakable style, so I’m sincerely hope that he discovers the same in his action next time around.

The script’s problems are the same problems of every superhero origin story script since the original Superman—a true origin doesn’t have an ending, it’s the beginning of the second act. If the origin is told in a true three act structure it still ends at the beginning, and without a guaranteed sequel, as in the case of The Lord of the Rings, the audience is likely to feel ripped off. The really bad news comes when the script’s writer realizes he’s already spent almost an hour and a half telling the origin, and he only has about thirty minutes to create an adventure for the newly origin-ized hero. This is part of the reasoning for superhero sequels often being stronger than their predecessors. The Matrix may be one superhero origin movie that successfully tells the origin in a fully developed three acts, but this is mainly because the character’s superhero identity is sort of the twist of the whole story. Iron Man’s post origin adventure is a rather tacked on third act conflict and fist fight with a haphazardly developed super villain.
Besides Downey Jr., the great sense of humour, and, of course, Stan Winston Studio’s armour design, Iron Man works and overcomes its shortcomings in the end because of what it represents for the future of superhero adaptations. Not only can we expect a better film out of Iron Man 2 (fingers crossed for ‘Demon in a Bottle’), but thanks to Marvel Studio’s gathering of their properties, and the post-credit joke to end all post-credit jokes, Iron Man is really the first chapter in a larger series of Avengers films. The closer we get to that date, the easier I’m willing to take it on these films (frankly, The Incredible Hulk just wasn’t that good). If they continue on this trajectory, which is embracing both the modern and classic elements of the characters, Tony Stark is going to be a very important character, possibly even the most terrifying and powerful super villain in the universe (assuming all the stuff that didn’t work in the Civil War series is filtered out).

Video
Marcus beat me to this review by a bit (I had to be sent a new disc), so I’m mostly here to back up his opinion on the 1080p video. The transfer is a bit inconsistent between the lighter and darker scenes, and more importantly between the standard film and digital effects sequences. There is a lack of definition in the low-lit, digital effect-less character scenes that stands in stark (ha!) contrast to the bright, special effects heavy scenes (especially the scenes where Stark dawns the final suit design and fights), which are rich in colour and detail. Sometimes the differences between the digital and practical suits is a little too plain when the lighting and details are increased, but at the same time I was able to notice fine details that I missed even on the big screen (I couldn’t tell what the hell was going on during the icing up scene), so we’re left with a bit of a trade off.
Despite the occasionally muted detail, I’m overall still impressed with the print; even a little more than Marcus was (though I believe my set is smaller and older than his, so perhaps I’m missing out). The film’s earliest scenes are in some ways the most impressive. The Afghanistan fight is bright and drastically realistic, including tiny detailed sand and rocks, and big, fiery explosions. Then, when the story cuts back to thirty-six hours earlier, we’re fed the glitzy, colourful, deeper contrasted and phony world of Vegas. Within these scenes we’re introduced to the film’s real heroes—beards. The beards in Iron Man are spectacular, and in hi-def we can revel in every perfectly placed hair.

Audio
Thanks to Iron Man I have verified that my powered sub woofer does, in fact, work just fine. Seriously, so very much bass. Iron Man walks? Cue giant bass. Iron Man shoots a repulsor ray? Cue
giant
bass. Iron Man blows something up? Cue Gabe getting up and turning down the sub woofer. Iron Man is a sound effects and music heavy film. Even when things aren’t blowing up, expensive cars are roaring, make-believe machinery is beeping, paparazzi popping, or heavy metal grinding. All five channels are consistently alive and zipping with directional effects, and featuring a well designed dynamic range. With all the noise a-poppin’ one might expect the little things like dialogue and subtle musical cues to go missing, but even with that heavy (almost painful) bass you aren’t likely to miss anything.I’m usually not a fan of film scores that blend heavy metal and symphonic sounds, because so often the audience is left with an oversimplified sampling of each style, but Ramin Djawadi original music almost surmounts the problems. The whole score sounds a little ‘made for TV’, but it’s strong and memorable enough, and I’m very impressed (again) that I can make out the cues among all the other noises. And credit must be paid to the film’s acquired music as well. Sometimes you simply need to hit the nail on the head.

Extras
Our first disc extras begin with an interactive ‘Hall of Armour’, which includes detailed, 360 looks at each or the four armour types that are seen in the film. This leads straight into ‘The Invincible Iron Man’, a forty seven minute look at the history of the character in the comics. Almost every Marvel based superhero film has featured one of these documentaries, and quite often they’re the most entertaining thing on the disc, especially in a case like this where I don’t know everything about the character (the Silver Surfer doc that adorned the Rise of the Silver Surfer DVD was better than the film). This one does not disappoint, especially concerning the characters often overlooked place in the greater Marvel mythology. Hopefully is an indication of the love Marvel will be putting into their future studio produced discs.
Disc one finishes out (effectively, BD-Live isn’t really an extra) with eleven deleted and extended scenes. Most of them are entirely unneeded in what is effectively an overlong film, especially the front third, which just barely achieves a satisfying momentum as is. I suppose Terrance Howard’s Rhodes was kind of short changed in the final cut. These scenes are presented in hi-def, but with temporary effects and sound (2.0), and feature time stamps in the corners.
Wait, where’s my director’s commentary?

Disc two starts with a giant, one hour and forty nine minute, all encompassing documentary entitled ‘I am Iron Man’. The doc skirts the edge of my personal attention span, but the information allotment and general pacing keeps things interesting. It starts at the beginning of the story with all the technical stuff, including the designing, casting and pre-viz. The on-set filming section of any behind the scenes documentary is usually the part that bores me, but the good nature of this crew, which is led by what basically amounts to an independent director, kept me involved. Robert Downey Jr.’s consistently endearing sense of humour and humility is refreshing, and also helped make for a genuinely entertaining documentary experience. Even the super technical post-production section of the doc manages a similar level of intimacy and fun. The footage throughout is pretty well cut, ensuring that the fly on the wall footage doesn’t devolve into the boring stuff, and split screens are utilized when necessary. The interview segments are mostly sharp, and like the raw behind the scenes stuff usually cut before they start to bore.
‘Wired: The Visual FX of Iron Man’ takes a more detailed look at the digital artistry of the film. This would seem unnecessary after the severity of the previous documentary, and it kind of is. After sitting through hours and hours of how-to digital FX featurettes most of us are pretty familiar with the whole set up, and most of us are probably a little dulled to the whole process. I know I am. I did like the ILM demo reel, though, and appreciate that all three effects studios get their moment in the sun (the Heads Up Display design was particularly interesting). The twenty seven minutes flow by without overstaying their welcome.
The rest of the extras are kind of a cool down session from the heavy workout that preceded them. Downey Jr.’s screen tests and the actor/writer/director brainstorm are interesting enough additions, though I think I’d rather see a Downey Jr. blooper reel. The Onion TV excerpt isn’t as amusing as the original article was in print (on the whole the Onion video stuff has been a massive disappointment), but it’s a cute bonus. Trailers and stills finish out the sizable and satisfying extras. It’s interesting to note that many of the early interviews and production art refer to the Iron Monger armour as the Crimson Dynamo armour. Apparently someone’s political correctness got the better of them. I wonder if the same thing is going to happen with the Mandarin next time around.

Overall
Iron Man stands up as a successful experiment for Marvel Studios, and a really good start for a greater universe of comic book films. It isn’t a full-on success, I personally didn’t find it as invigorating as Spider-Man, as visually interesting as Batman Returns, as ballsy in its oddness as Hulk, or as simply satisfying overall as X-Men 2, but Iron Man is probably the funniest traditional comic book superhero film yet, and that ain’t bad. Bring on Iron Man 2, then bring on The Avengers, and keep it fun Marvel, there’s no need for every superhero flick from here on out to be The Dark Knight, we’ve got one of those already.
Review by Gabriel Powers
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Well put all the way around. I really liked this movie, aside from the minor imperfections which were reviewed here. By far the second best comic book movie of the year, and a top 5 of the year overall IMO. Thanks again, would love to see a steel-book version of the 2-disc set.
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Nice review Gabe.
Can't wait to pick this up on Tuesday.
Can't wait to pick this up on Tuesday.
Wow, you guys at DVDactive apparently liked Iron Man so much, ya had to review it twice in one week!
I agree about Ramin Djawadi's musical score. He is a product of Hans Zimmer's Media Ventures clique, and made small contributions to the Batman Begins score....
I agree about Ramin Djawadi's musical score. He is a product of Hans Zimmer's Media Ventures clique, and made small contributions to the Batman Begins score....
Billy Black wrote: would love to see a steel-book version of the 2-disc set.
we're getting a steelbook of the regular dvd over here so i say look around.
we're getting a steelbook of the regular dvd over here so i say look around.
I love what you said about the bass. Now I'm excited to watch this. Haven't seen it since the day it came out.
Cinque wrote: Wow, you guys at DVDactive apparently liked Iron Man so much, ya had to review it twice in one week!
Studio screener and private purchase results in double the Iron Man goodness.
Studio screener and private purchase results in double the Iron Man goodness.
Chris Gould wrote: Cinque wrote: Wow, you guys at DVDactive apparently liked Iron Man so much, ya had to review it twice in one week!
Studio screener and private purchase results in double the Iron Man goodness.
Good show chap.
Studio screener and private purchase results in double the Iron Man goodness.
Good show chap.
There should have been a feature on the beards of Iron Man.
...Does what ever an Iron can...
"the four amour types"? :D
I wasn't aware of the different types of love in this movie
I wasn't aware of the different types of love in this movie

Nice review, Gabe. I'm watching the IRON MAN DVD this weekend. I believe Demon In A Bottle storyline will wait for IRON MAN 3 I heaR.
Bruno Billion wrote: "the four amour types"? :D
I wasn't aware of the different types of love in this movie
There's no u in amor. I've fixed the typo.
I wasn't aware of the different types of love in this movie

There's no u in amor. I've fixed the typo.
also did he mean batman begins or batman returns?
No, I very much meat Batman Returns.
No Master Audio but? I would of thought a movie of this caliber may have got it - not that allot of equipment can handle it yet....
Ta for the review Gabe!
Ta for the review Gabe!
Chris Gould wrote: Bruno Billion wrote: "the four amour types"? :D
I wasn't aware of the different types of love in this movie
There's no u in amor. I've fixed the typo.
I actually made that typo about a million times when I was writing it. I'm surprised only one snuck through.
I wasn't aware of the different types of love in this movie

There's no u in amor. I've fixed the typo.
I actually made that typo about a million times when I was writing it. I'm surprised only one snuck through.
I've heard reports of the Blu Ray "Iron Man" discs not working, and my retailer tells me it has been recalled across the U.S.???
i noticed a glitch in the opening few scenes the first time i watched it - but so far it hasn't repeated itself
Gabe Powers wrote: No, I very much meat Batman Returns.
Wow this thread appears to be typo central, "meat" indeed......................
Also
I was shocked to discover that in a film full of amazing special effects that there is one shot that just looks "dodgy"
Watch the scene where Starke and Rhodes are on the plane and the lap dancing pole starts to appear out of the floor of the plane, it just looks as though it's being drawn from the floor up!!!!!
Wow this thread appears to be typo central, "meat" indeed......................
Also
I was shocked to discover that in a film full of amazing special effects that there is one shot that just looks "dodgy"
Watch the scene where Starke and Rhodes are on the plane and the lap dancing pole starts to appear out of the floor of the plane, it just looks as though it's being drawn from the floor up!!!!!
I just can't get worked up over a minor typo in the talkback section Andy.
And watch the deleted scenes, I'm pretty sure that pole is really raising up from the floor.
And watch the deleted scenes, I'm pretty sure that pole is really raising up from the floor.
Just picked up the 2-disc Ultimate Edition. Man, why do they have to make the stupid slip cover better than the actual case cover? I pretty much always throw out the slip cover so it'll fit in my DVD case. The case itself is very blah. A bad move there.
I don't understand how people can say they love these superhero movies. They must not know the background/style/story of the characters. Not one superhero movie in the last 10 years has been anywhere close to how the characters really are. Spiderman was horrible. Spiderman DOES NOT have built-in web shooters. And the green goblin is supposed to have purple boots, purple gloves, purple tunic, and purple hat. And he doesn't have armor, just tights and a mask. Fantastic Four....all the characters were extremely younger than they were supposed to be, all except for Thing and Human Torch. And Dr. Doom's outfit was completely wrong. The second one has Galatcus....as a cloud ? Did the movie makers not read any comics growing up ? Even Fairly Oddparents got the uniform right....and that character wasn't even Galactus. Galactus, for every one that like the movies (ugh) is a massively tall dude in purple and blue armour that eats planets....not a cloud.
Transformers....what can I say about this trash ? First, Optimus isn't supposed to be a fancy, modern, sleek cabbed semi. He is, and will always be, a completely squared cabbed semi. Bumblebe is a VW bug....always, not a camarro. And Batman.....completely un-Batmanlike.
How hard would it have been to get Iron Man right ? The story is completely messed up. The terrorists in the movie are arabs, not chinese, as in the comic. And Nick Fury is an old white guy, not a black guy (Sam Jackson in the movie)
Don't even get me started on Daredevil, and how Kingpin (always a white guy) was played by Michael Clark Duncan.
Transformers....what can I say about this trash ? First, Optimus isn't supposed to be a fancy, modern, sleek cabbed semi. He is, and will always be, a completely squared cabbed semi. Bumblebe is a VW bug....always, not a camarro. And Batman.....completely un-Batmanlike.
How hard would it have been to get Iron Man right ? The story is completely messed up. The terrorists in the movie are arabs, not chinese, as in the comic. And Nick Fury is an old white guy, not a black guy (Sam Jackson in the movie)
Don't even get me started on Daredevil, and how Kingpin (always a white guy) was played by Michael Clark Duncan.
Matt Stilwell wrote: I don't understand how people can say they love these superhero movies. They must not know the background/style/story of the characters. Not one superhero movie in the last 10 years has been anywhere close to how the characters really are. Spiderman was horrible. Spiderman DOES NOT have built-in web shooters. And the green goblin is supposed to have purple boots, purple gloves, purple tunic, and purple hat. And he doesn't have armor, just tights and a mask. Fantastic Four....all the characters were extremely younger than they were supposed to be, all except for Thing and Human Torch. And Dr. Doom's outfit was completely wrong. The second one has Galatcus....as a cloud ? Did the movie makers not read any comics growing up ? Even Fairly Oddparents got the uniform right....and that character wasn't even Galactus. Galactus, for every one that like the movies (ugh) is a massively tall dude in purple and blue armour that eats planets....not a cloud.
Transformers....what can I say about this trash ? First, Optimus isn't supposed to be a fancy, modern, sleek cabbed semi. He is, and will always be, a completely squared cabbed semi. Bumblebe is a VW bug....always, not a camarro. And Batman.....completely un-Batmanlike.
How hard would it have been to get Iron Man right ? The story is completely messed up. The terrorists in the movie are arabs, not chinese, as in the comic. And Nick Fury is an old white guy, not a black guy (Sam Jackson in the movie)
Don't even get me started on Daredevil, and how Kingpin (always a white guy) was played by Michael Clark Duncan.
I am not a huge fan of comic book anything, but comic book movies do have some great qualities in story telling (Heck they are the modern day mythology, at least if you aren't into history). Matt you think every movie based on a book is taken word for word? Or even every word on a script for a non comic book related movie is taken as verbatim? Film by definition is a flexible art of bending the script to your needs depending on where you are on the process.
I guess what I am trying to say is that comic book movies have to be: A)relevant to the times in style, substance and character. B)talk about a relevant struggle of our current times and C)be made to entertain a wide audience for greater profit. This goes for any movie too.
You can pick at what they did wrong all you want and be a total fanboy. But you are completely missing a major point in film: It's a business and writers get to add their creative spin to the process too.
As for Batman, are you telling me that the earlier corny films are more realistic to the comics, than Nolans gritty Batman?
Transformers....what can I say about this trash ? First, Optimus isn't supposed to be a fancy, modern, sleek cabbed semi. He is, and will always be, a completely squared cabbed semi. Bumblebe is a VW bug....always, not a camarro. And Batman.....completely un-Batmanlike.
How hard would it have been to get Iron Man right ? The story is completely messed up. The terrorists in the movie are arabs, not chinese, as in the comic. And Nick Fury is an old white guy, not a black guy (Sam Jackson in the movie)
Don't even get me started on Daredevil, and how Kingpin (always a white guy) was played by Michael Clark Duncan.
I am not a huge fan of comic book anything, but comic book movies do have some great qualities in story telling (Heck they are the modern day mythology, at least if you aren't into history). Matt you think every movie based on a book is taken word for word? Or even every word on a script for a non comic book related movie is taken as verbatim? Film by definition is a flexible art of bending the script to your needs depending on where you are on the process.
I guess what I am trying to say is that comic book movies have to be: A)relevant to the times in style, substance and character. B)talk about a relevant struggle of our current times and C)be made to entertain a wide audience for greater profit. This goes for any movie too.
You can pick at what they did wrong all you want and be a total fanboy. But you are completely missing a major point in film: It's a business and writers get to add their creative spin to the process too.
As for Batman, are you telling me that the earlier corny films are more realistic to the comics, than Nolans gritty Batman?
Sam, he's obviously got some issues with arrested development, give it up.
Matt Stilwell wrote: And Nick Fury is an old white guy, not a black guy (Sam Jackson in the movie)
I figure you are either a troll or the most closed-minded comic fan on earth. I notoriously hate X-Men 2 for what it changed (in the circles I run in, I'm notorious, anyway), and 300 and some others (actually I just thought 300 was BAD, and the changes simply enhanced my existing distaste, as I couldn't even remember they were changes as I was watching it).
Regardless!
I point you to the Ultimate universe (rather than 616) and there you will find a black Nick Fury--based, in fact, on Sam Jackson.
You have failed at your supposed comic book knowledge, sir. A bloody amateur would have known that.
Thus I hope and suspect you are just a troll...but likely you are not and I will just have to go stare at the internet again, dumbfounded and sad at the bizarre lengths people will go to, even beyond my own...
I figure you are either a troll or the most closed-minded comic fan on earth. I notoriously hate X-Men 2 for what it changed (in the circles I run in, I'm notorious, anyway), and 300 and some others (actually I just thought 300 was BAD, and the changes simply enhanced my existing distaste, as I couldn't even remember they were changes as I was watching it).
Regardless!
I point you to the Ultimate universe (rather than 616) and there you will find a black Nick Fury--based, in fact, on Sam Jackson.
You have failed at your supposed comic book knowledge, sir. A bloody amateur would have known that.
Thus I hope and suspect you are just a troll...but likely you are not and I will just have to go stare at the internet again, dumbfounded and sad at the bizarre lengths people will go to, even beyond my own...
thank you for not gushing over this like everyone else, and those idiotic comments Downey Jr. made about the far superior "Dark Knight" only made me dislike this overrated rump a lot more.
neat sound though, music was........
neat sound though, music was........
R3 is getting a steelbook.
Billy Black wrote: would love to see a steel-book version of the 2-disc set.
Fye has a an exclusive steel book.
Fye has a an exclusive steel book.
ok... personally, i think IRON MAN was boring...
for a comic book movie, or a summer hit... it had no action...
just a little action at the very end, i was expecting more action, and less talking...
but well, lets see what we get on the sequel...
for a comic book movie, or a summer hit... it had no action...
just a little action at the very end, i was expecting more action, and less talking...

but well, lets see what we get on the sequel...


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Disc Details
Release Date:
30th September 2008
Discs:
2
Disc Type:
Blu-ray Disc
RCE:
No
Video:
1080p
Aspect:
2.35:1
Anamorphic:
No
Colour:
Yes
Audio:
Dolby TrueHD 5.1 English, Dolby Digital 5.1 French, Dolby Digital 5.1 Spanish
Subtitles:
English, French, Spanish, Portuguese
Extras:
I Am Iron Man, The Invincible Iron Man, Wired: The Visual Effects of Iron Man, Robert Downey Jr. Screen Test, The Actor’s Process, The Onion Spoof, Image Galleries, Trailers, Hall of Armour.
Easter Egg:
No
Feature Details
Director:
Jon Favreau
Cast:
Robert Downey Jr., Jeff Bridges, Gwyneth Paltrow,Terrence Howard,
Genre:
Action, Adventure and Comedy
Length:
126 minutes
Ratings
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